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Dwarkesh Podcast

by Dwarkesh Patel · English · Tech & Science

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  2. 25 Aug 2026 · 1 hr 17 min

    Dylan Patel – Anthropic & OpenAI will have most of the world’s compute by 2028

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  3. 11 Aug 2026 · 2 hr 13 min

    Ryan Greenblatt – What happens once AI can automate AI research?

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  4. 3 Aug 2026 · 11 min

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  5. 10 Jul 2026 · 1 hr 38 min

    Adam Brown – A deep but accessible introduction to general relativity

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  6. 30 Jun 2026 · 1 hr 34 min

    Grant Sanderson – AI and the future of math

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  7. 1 Oct 2026 · 1 hr 37 min

    Si Sheppard – How did a few hundred Spanish soldiers topple two empires?

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  8. 17 Sep 2026 · 1 hr 20 min

    Noam Brown – Agent swarms, alignment, & recursive self-improvement

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  9. 11 Sep 2026 · 1 hr 37 min

    AI researchers debate how close we are to recursive self-improvement

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  10. 1 Sep 2026 · 2 hr 21 min

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