Be Careful What You Copy

0:01Speaker 1:Hey, this is Stephen Furtick.

0:02Speaker 2:I'm the pastor of Elevation Church, and this is our podcast. I wanted to thank you for joining us today. Hope this inspires you. Hope it builds your faith. Hope it gives you perspective to see God is moving in your life.

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2:00Speaker 1:Give God a praise.

2:03Speaker 2:Come on, let everything that has breath praise the Lord. That has new significance in the time of COVID, right? Let everything that has breath, that we appreciate more, that God gave us another day, and that we're here to praise him, and we want to take full advantage of that.

2:22Speaker 1:Are you ready for the Word of God? It doesn't matter if you are. I am, so I'm excited enough for all of us. I want to share with you from Hebrews 8 today, verses 3-7. I think I'm done with y'all. Thanks. Hebrews, chapter 8.

2:49Speaker 2:That pad had a long decay. Hebrews, chapter 8, verses 3-7. Ready? Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices. And so it was necessary for this one, Jesus, to also have something to offer. If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and a shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain. But in fact, the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator, is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on what?

4:04Speaker 2:Better promises. For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. Back to verse 5. They serve the high priest in the Levitical line from the lineage of Aaron. They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and a shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle. They serve in a sanctuary that is a copy. This is why Moses was warned.

4:41Speaker 1:See to it.

4:42Speaker 2:That you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain. The Lord told me to give you the sermon in the form of a warning today. The warning is, be careful what you copy. You may be seated. Be careful what you copy. I didn't say not to copy.

5:12Speaker 1:That's dumb. People will tell you sometimes, don't copy.

5:14Speaker 2:Be an original. No, you need to copy a little bit. You need to copy through certain developmental stages. Our kids copy. Our kids copy. That's how they put one foot in front of the other.

5:32Speaker 1:Learn to walk. You don't teach your kid.

5:34Speaker 2:If you don't want to walk on your legs, you might want to try walking around on your hands. They copy sounds phonetically. It's a part of the developmental process to copy. If you're learning an instrument, you would copy the scales. If you're learning a language, you would copy the alphabet. You don't make up a new alphabet. You shouldn't stop with the copy. That's the thing.

6:00Speaker 1:In anything, you shouldn't just stop with the copy.

6:05Speaker 2:In raising three of my own now, I'm sitting here thinking, like, what do I want them to copy of me, and what do I want them to cast out? I feel like since they have my genetics, it's my job to help shepherd them through some of this stuff. It's really important that I disciple them as a dad.

6:35Speaker 1:I want to disciple my kids. Not through a class.

6:39Speaker 2:I don't really think they need another class from me, especially since I'm a preacher. They get to hear my words a lot. But in what I do and what I show them, and not just about Bible verses. I don't just want to disciple my kids in what they think about Greek or Hebrew in a Bible text. The original word is epikaradokia. I want to talk to them about some other words, too. some words that we might not be allowed to say in church, especially now Graham is 13 and Elijah is 16. One thing I really thank God for is I've had the opportunity to work out with Elijah the last couple of years. I'm glad that it's going to be at least two more years before he can catch me on bench press, but I kind of turned the workout room that's in our house into a little bit of a seminary study, like a laboratory where I'm not only showing him how to do certain exercises, but I don't know if I told you this, Wade, I've been taking him through the top 100 rock albums of all time. Train up a child in the way they should go, and the way they should go is Led Zeppelin. We listen to Graves in the Gardens, too, in an old church basement, but sometimes we listen to

7:56Speaker 2:other albums.

7:58Speaker 1:Something funny happened the other day.

8:00Speaker 2:Where we were listening to Jimi Hendrix, Little Wing, one of the greatest guitar intros of all time. I learned it when I was 14. LJ Elijah says to me, this guy sounds like Pearl Jam. He thought Jimi, 1969, was copying Stone Gossard and Mike McCready, 1991, because he didn't know who was copying who.

8:28Speaker 1:I said, no, boy.

8:33Speaker 2:You don't have to grow up and be a Christian, but you will know that Jimi Hendrix … There.

8:39Speaker 1:Are some things that are non-negotiable. They're copying Jimi. Jimi is not copying them.

8:47Speaker 2:I disciple him in so many different ways. I'm pretty proud of myself. I show him technological advancements that have happened in the field of audio recording. I explained to him how downloading songs or streaming songs is a relatively new phenomenon and that when we wanted music from our friends, we had to.

9:13Speaker 1:Copy.

9:14Speaker 2:But where it was bad, you would put this cassette tape and another cassette with it, a blank one with it.

9:21Speaker 1:That wasn't the problem. The problem was when you had to.

9:24Speaker 2:Copy a copy of a copy of a copy. Because every time you copy a cassette tape, the quality drops of the copy.

9:38Speaker 1:In Hebrews, chapter 8….

9:39Speaker 2:Y'all thought this was story time.

9:42Speaker 1:This isn't story time. This is my setup for my sermon.

9:46Speaker 2:The writer of Hebrews is understanding that as generations have passed from Moses, the quality of faith has dropped within the religious system of his day, He does something kind of crazy in order to bring these new believers into an understanding of the process of emulating and imitating Christ. He points to somebody they never met, Moses, to explain about somebody they never personally met, Jesus.

10:18Speaker 1:He talks about a tabernacle.

10:19Speaker 2:You have to remember, these people never saw the tabernacle they carted around the wilderness. It has been many years since they were setting up that tabernacle. It has been replaced now not only by Solomon's temple, but that one has been destroyed. There has been another temple built. They are generations removed from Jimmy.

10:38Speaker 1:I like Pearl Jam.

10:39Speaker 2:I'm a Pearl Jam fan, but he realizes that with every generational transference, there has been a loss in quality. He says things in Hebrews like, you need to persevere. Y'all give up too quick. He's kind of fussing at them, so he brings in examples. He talks about, in Hebrews 11, different people in the faith who endured, some people who were cut in half for their faith. He's kind of trying to say, you think it's bad because somebody didn't like your comment on Facebook.

11:10Speaker 1:It's been a lot worse.

11:15Speaker 2:If I could talk to you today, I would use … this subject, be careful what you copy. What happens to a lot of us is we're not even conscious of what we're copying in our behaviors and even our faith and even our concept of God. Sometimes came through so many generations who put their own concept of God on top of the biblical concept of God, You have to think, somebody did that to them who did that to them who did that to them.

11:45Speaker 1:Who did that to them.

11:46Speaker 2:By the time it gets to them, they say, I'm not sure I want anything to do with God. But it's not God you want nothing to do with. It's the copy of God through all these generations. He's pointing to something they've never personally seen.

12:10Speaker 1:Get this.

12:11Speaker 2:An experience they never had, this tabernacle God commanded Moses about.

12:15Speaker 1:To build with very specific dimensions.

12:19Speaker 2:When God called Moses to build the tabernacle, he did it while Moses was on a mountain. He spoke to Moses face to face as a man speaks. Well, Actually, he spoke to Moses, but then Moses had to go speak to the people.

12:34Speaker 1:Sometimes when Moses would speak to the.

12:36Speaker 2:People what God had said, as he would say what God had said, they would twist it.

12:41Speaker 1:And make it something else.

12:43Speaker 2:That has now been happening in Hebrews, chapter 8, for hundreds of years. See, he talks about the covenant that was given, the old covenant, the covenant of Moses that God promised to be with his people if they kept his commands. He's saying how Jesus brought a better covenant. He didn't tell us to build a tabernacle. He became the tabernacle. He was the dwelling place of God. Rather than a high priest bringing an offering like an animal or a bull or a goat to shed the blood of something else to atone for your sin, Jesus shed his own blood.

13:19Speaker 1:He offered himself as a gift. He is a great high priest, a better high priest, a better covenant, but he understands something about the people that they are attempting to copy a lesser covenant, a covenant that depends on your behavior, not grace. Let's be honest.

13:40Speaker 2:They came by it honestly, because we are all influenced by culture.

13:45Speaker 1:If you don't believe me, I'll say this.

13:48Speaker 2:The same way that we sometimes can't even get from church to Monday morning … You know how, church, you can sometimes have these mountaintop experiences, and, Lord, I'm going to serve you, and I'm going to pray with my wife and my kids, and I'm going to wait on you, and then that message doesn't even make it through Monday traffic.

14:05Speaker 1:You don't even get to the office, right? From the mountain to Monday. I could preach about that. How do I get.

14:10Speaker 2:God from the mountaintop of inspiration to Monday morning? He's understanding that they're going to need something to help them get there, and he understands that you have.

14:20Speaker 1:To be careful. what you copy.

14:26Speaker 2:When Moses went up to get the instructions from God on the Ten Commandments … Remember those?

14:31Speaker 1:Come on. You broke all of them. I know you remember them. You have to understand.

14:38Speaker 2:By the time Moses got back down, they weren't waiting on the Lord. They were worshiping a cow they made out of golden earrings.

14:50Speaker 1:He was only up there 40 days.

14:53Speaker 2:They would wander in the wilderness 40 years, because after they came out of Egypt, they couldn't get Egypt out of them. I'm concerned that sometimes we are so controlled by culture.

15:08Speaker 1:This is what God said. See to it. Pay attention. It's a warning. He said Moses was warned.

15:15Speaker 2:See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain, because when you get down off the mountain, the children of Israel are going to be naked dancing around jewelry. So you have to so hear from God and know what he showed you and know what he spoke to you and know what he is doing in your life, not somebody else's.

15:35Speaker 1:Know what he's.

15:35Speaker 2:Doing in your life, not the neighbor next door, to know what he's doing in your life in.

15:40Speaker 1:This moment that you build that.

15:45Speaker 2:So be careful what you copy from the culture around you.

15:50Speaker 1:Be careful what you copy from the.

15:52Speaker 2:Culture around you. that keeps you from discovering the kingdom within you. You know how we copy culture around us and what we don't realize? See, we don't realize we're copying crazy. I know this, because when I tell people I don't watch the news very much, they look at me like I'm irresponsible.

16:25Speaker 1:Well, just because.

16:28Speaker 2:People want to make money off a 24-7 news cycle doesn't mean that I have to submit my mind to the stress that it causes me.

16:35Speaker 1:I don't have to. Well, then you won't be informed. Yeah, but I also won't be insane. Preach to me. I need this. I need this.

16:55Speaker 2:They call it breaking news because it's breaking your brain. Breaking news. You can't put out a bird feeder.

17:04Speaker 1:Did y'all see that? It was breaking news on my screen.

17:07Speaker 2:The birds are dying now, and we have to take our bird feeders down. Well, maybe we do, but that's not breaking news about a bird bath. That's not a pandemic about.

17:16Speaker 1:… Did you see this? It's crazy, but we copy crazy ….

17:23Speaker 2:So, if everybody is a zombie on The Walking Dead, if everybody is staring at stuff and never looking at each other, be careful what you copy from a golden calf, from something you got out of the Egypt God delivered you from. By the time Moses got down the mountain, this is why God warned him in Exodus 25, because God's telling him, Thou shalt not kill, and thou shalt not commit adultery, and thou shalt not covet. If you live the way the first commandments tell you to, you won't covet anybody else's life, because you'll be so content with your own that you won't have to take your neighbor's wife.

18:05Speaker 1:You won't have to take your neighbor's ox. You won't have to take matters in your own hands.

18:08Speaker 2:By the time he gets down talking about contentment, they're dancing around a calf.

18:15Speaker 1:I can relate so much.

18:17Speaker 2:To copying culture, and then I miss Christ, because the kingdom is within me.

18:28Speaker 1:But that's the Old Testament, Pastor Steve. Actually, no, it's not. It's in Hebrews in the New Testament.

18:34Speaker 2:He said in the New Testament that you need to be warned sometimes that if you don't build when you come down the mountain in your everyday life what God spoke to you in those moments where he touched your soul … You will miss the kingdom by copying the culture.

18:56Speaker 1:People can twist anything, so some people.

18:58Speaker 2:Will say, like, well, then you shouldn't have drums in church because that's from the Devil and from the world. You want air conditioning in church? Because that's not in Exodus either. It's a way of thinking. It's what the Bible calls the patterns of this world that we conform to. The world squeezes you into its mold so that you start trying to have conversations with 280 characters. Then the medium becomes the mold we get squeezed into. We can't know each other as people who are created in the image of God because we are conversing with each other on a platform that was designed by people to get us to argue.

19:47Speaker 1:Too much too soon? Be careful what you copy from culture.

19:58Speaker 2:I'm not saying you have to dress like you're out of 1933 to be a Christian. I'm not talking about external stuff. Neither was the writer of Hebrews. He was saying the external covenant is gone. It's the internal one that matters now. So our distinction and what makes us different is not that we look weird, but that we refuse to conform to crazy. Put this in the chat. I refuse to conform to crazy. When I say put it in the chat, you say it out loud, too.

20:32Speaker 2:It's kind of an arrangement we have. I refuse to conform … to crazy. Be careful what you copy from a culture that has lost its ever-loving mind and is controlled by the prince of the power.

20:45Speaker 1:Of the air.

20:46Speaker 2:Do y'all believe in the Devil? If you don't believe in the Devil after the last two years … So, be careful what you copy. Be careful who you envy. Some of us envy people who are secretly miserable, but you don't know that.

21:15Speaker 1:So, this is my second point.

21:18Speaker 2:Be careful what you copy from other people, because you don't see the full picture.

21:26Speaker 1:I remember watching a documentary last year.

21:28Speaker 3:And I got so jealous of the person the documentary was about, because he had one something like 16 Grammys. The whole time I'm watching them … I don't know if you ever do this.

21:41Speaker 2:I sit there and compare my accomplishments to his accomplishments. It's like, Pastor, you touched souls for the kingdom. Well, I want a Grammy too. I'm sitting there going, I never won one Grammy. He's got 16 or whatever. But then it was like the Lord spoke to me in the middle of the documentary and said, Wiki him. So I put him in my Wikipedia app, and I donate to Wikipedia because they've helped me so much with my research every year. I put his name in the thing, and I saw, yes, he has 16 Grammys, but he also has had five wives.

22:24Speaker 1:So I didn't judge him. I didn't turn off the documentary.

22:27Speaker 2:I still admire him, but I realized that what I had done in the process of admiring his accomplishments … I had not considered the cost of those accomplishments. I want the Grammys, but I also want less than four divorce proceedings. No judgment on the guy, but isn't that what we do? We crop and copy. You know how you crop a picture? You know how when that person in your life is no longer in your life and you crop them out of the picture? We do that when we're comparing ourselves to other people, right? Because we're copying something that's cropped. They're showing you what they want you to see. Now you are copying a picture. a form, a shadow, a crop picture. You see what they.

23:22Speaker 1:Did, and you go, well, I'm not doing that. I'm not as good as them. I haven't accomplished anything like them. Here's what I noticed.

23:29Speaker 2:Some of the people we want to be like are burning out. Influencers that we see on social media … After we have bought all their makeup product and all their diet product and all their fitness stuff, and then we see their posts about, y'all.

23:50Speaker 1:I just wanted to come on here today. People have been asking.

23:52Speaker 2:That's how every influencer post I've ever seen starts.

23:55Speaker 1:I'm not even on social media that much, but I got that one memorized.

23:58Speaker 2:I just wanted to come on here, y'all. People have been asking. Nobody has been asking you. Two people asked you. But now they're on a confession.

24:07Speaker 1:Now, here's what's crazy.

24:08Speaker 2:I've been copying … Somebody who comes on and tells me, I'm actually depressed. I've been copying you. I actually feel like I'm losing my mind. I can't eat. I can't sleep.

24:26Speaker 1:I was so busy envying your bag.

24:28Speaker 2:That I didn't realize that at the bottom of it is a bottle of pills you can't function without.

24:42Speaker 1:I wish y'all could feel the energy y'all are putting on me right now. Is it better at Riverwalk? I might come over there. It's not far. Be careful what you copy from another person's life, because you.

24:55Speaker 2:Don't know what it costs them. Remember I told my father-in-law? He's a cool guy, so I get to tell him everything. I told him one time, He said, Amen. I'm not going to copy his humility, though. I'll tell you that right now. He said one time … We were talking about this one pastor, and we were talking about different people that discourage you along the way from ministry. One guy I met who had traveled the world … When I was 20 years old, my dad had me go to Promise Keepers with him.

25:30Speaker 1:It was actually in Charlotte. I was in college, and my dad was still in Moncks Corner. We met in Charlotte for Promise Keepers.

25:36Speaker 2:We got to volunteer behind the scenes, and I was running the clock, and I already knew I was called to be a preacher. So this very famous preacher was back there, and I walked up to him. I said, I don't want to bother you before you preach.

25:45Speaker 1:He said, yes, you do.

25:47Speaker 2:Apparently you do, because you are right now. I said, no, I just wanted to know, can you give me a piece of advice? As somebody that I admire, you've written so many books, and you've shared the gospel with so many people. What advice would you have for me, for somebody who aspires to do what you do? He said, you don't want to be me. I thought it was rude at first, but he was trying to tell me something. He was trying to tell me about the surcharge of sacrifice, what I saw in his books that I admired. I don't know who this is for, but you have to be careful that you don't set the blueprint of your life based on the part of somebody else's life that you seek. because they might be cropping out stuff that you don't want to copy. I wish this was Inside Elevation, because I would tell all the pastors in this room, there's some stuff about Elevation Church I would not advise you to do. It's a great church. To me, it's the best church in the world. I love the church I pastor, and.

26:57Speaker 1:You can't talk me out of that. But come on, man.

27:02Speaker 2:When we call the event Inside Elevation … It's not really inside elevation.

27:09Speaker 1:It's barely inside. It's like lobby elevation. It is not kitchen elevation.

27:13Speaker 2:You're not going to see the real mess of it. See, this is what we do. We want to copy one part of somebody's life. What happens when we do that is we miss the bigger picture. I wonder if you have been missing the bigger picture. You've been trying to copy somebody else, and you saw one part of their life. They have more followers than you, but their kids aren't following them anymore because they're never there.

27:46Speaker 1:That's right.

27:46Speaker 2:That's why I don't do social media. I'm not just talking about the platform. I'm talking about the thing inside of us.

27:55Speaker 1:You know what I mean?

27:56Speaker 2:We copy somebody who, if you could really get them, they'd say, don't do it like that.

28:03Speaker 1:That's crazy. It cost me too much. Have I depressed y'all enough?

28:11Speaker 2:The writer of Hebrews … Nobody even knows who wrote Hebrews, but he's so brilliant, because.

28:16Speaker 1:He's showing us Moses. Why is he showing us Moses and then Jesus?

28:20Speaker 2:Because he's showing you that Moses could only take you so far.

28:26Speaker 1:Even for the children of Israel … Think about it.

28:29Speaker 2:Moses led them to the edge of the Promised Land, but he didn't get to take them in.

28:34Speaker 1:Joshua did that.

28:37Speaker 2:When God called Joshua … Now, Moses was a great man, no doubt about it. Moses was really actually gracious with the people he led, because God said one time, Well, I'll just kill.

28:46Speaker 1:Them and start all over with you and give you better people to lead. He said, Lord, don't do that. It'll make you look bad.

28:51Speaker 2:You said you'd put your name on these people, and your hand was on them and bring them out of Egypt, so if you kill them, it's going to make you look bad. I probably would vote for you to kill them too, but if we really take this into consideration, it's not good for your reputation, God, even though it's my preference right now.

29:04Speaker 1:That notwithstanding ….

29:06Speaker 2:Moses was so controlled by the focus group he sent into the Promised Land that he copied the fear of the 10 spies who said,' We can't go in.

29:17Speaker 1:He never got to lead the people.

29:19Speaker 2:So, by the time Moses dies in Joshua 1, God is giving Joshua a talk about what he has called him to do.

29:27Speaker 1:He says something kind of cool.

29:29Speaker 2:Because, remember, Moses really knew God, but look at this in Joshua 1, verse 5.

29:35Speaker 1:After he says, I'm going to give you this land that.

29:37Speaker 2:I swore to the people … Joshua 1, verse 5, no one will be able to stand against you all the days of your life. As I was with Moses, so I.

29:46Speaker 1:Will be with you. Now, what does that mean?

29:50Speaker 2:That means I'm going to be present with you like I was present with him, but your process, Joshua, will not be like Moses' process. Another thing, his limitations will not be your limitations.

30:05Speaker 1:Where he stopped is where you're starting.

30:07Speaker 2:You're not going to be like me. You're going to be better than me. You're going to be so much better than me. You're not Stephen Furtick's son. I'm going to be Elijah Furtick's dad, Graham Furtick's dad, Abby Furtick's dad.

30:24Speaker 1:Do you understand?

30:27Speaker 2:When God calls you, when he puts his Spirit in you, you are not limited by what you've seen. That's not the end of your potential. So he tells Joshua, I'm going to be with you like I was with Moses. I will never leave you nor forsake you. Verse 6 says, Be strong and courageous, because you will lead these people to inherit the land I swore to their ancestors to give them.

30:52Speaker 1:Next verse. Be strong and very courageous. Be careful. What's my sermon called?

31:01Speaker 2:Be careful what you copy. So, Joshua … Listen, I want you to listen like God is talking to you. Don't be limited by what you saw Moses do.

31:11Speaker 1:Moses is not your model. God is. That's what the writer of Hebrews is saying. See, the law could only take you so far.

31:21Speaker 2:That's why Jesus came. The law was good, but it could only get you so far. The law was great, but it was flawed in that you couldn't keep it. There was nothing wrong with the law. There was something wrong with me. I'm the lid that kept me from going further when the law was my regulation. So now what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his son, the better high priest … in the order of Melchizedek, whose blood weighs more than a million.

31:52Speaker 1:Bulls and goats and doves. That's who Jesus is.

31:57Speaker 2:He is the arbitrator and the mediator of a better covenant.

32:02Speaker 1:My covenant is not with Moses.

32:04Speaker 4:My covenant is not with my past. My covenant is not with others. My covenant is not with my genetics. My covenant is not with my depression. My covenant is not with fear. My covenant is not with 10 spies. My covenant is not with this staff. My covenant is not with Pharaoh. My covenant is with my Father. I have a covenant, a better covenant.

32:32Speaker 2:Somebody shout, better, better, better, better, better, better.

32:36Speaker 1:It's going to be better, better, Better, better.

32:41Speaker 2:So, be careful what you copy from before when God is trying to bring you into something better. Oh, I'm so glad that I don't have to do it in this season like I did it in that season.

33:07Speaker 1:He said, you're still ….

33:09Speaker 2:You know how we talked about copying the world when we started the sermon? All those drug dealers and TikTokers and all those evil people. That's not who the writer of Hebrews was talking to. They weren't copying.

33:27Speaker 1:The world.

33:31Speaker 2:They were stuck in a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy.

33:34Speaker 1:Of worship that was external. Wouldn't that be hard?

33:43Speaker 2:I can't even drive when I go to London, because they drive on the wrong side of the road.

33:50Speaker 1:That's right. It's the wrong side of the road. It's pounds, not kilograms, too, while we're at it.

33:55Speaker 2:That's hard for me to even drive on the other side of the road.

34:05Speaker 1:They're having to believe. They never personally saw Jesus.

34:11Speaker 2:They're having to believe in that and let go of what they were always taught would bring them to God. If I can make this practical, because I know that's a little abstract … Most of what we copy in relationships is not what we were taught but what we caught from the relational dynamics we were around.

34:34Speaker 1:Do you know how coronavirus is contagious? So is crazy. They don't make a mask for that yet.

34:44Speaker 2:If they could invent a mask for that, how many of y'all would buy it?

34:47Speaker 1:$ 50? $ 100? One of the first things me and Holly did when we sat down … This was after we had about three or four fights in our marriage, which we started talking about.

35:01Speaker 2:How did your parents fight? How did my parents fight? What are we subconsciously copying? from the way we saw conflict handled that is good? What have we subconsciously copied that needs to go based on who we are, based on our personalities, based on our calling? I honor where I came from, and I honor what I saw, but I don't have to copy what I saw when it no longer fits what I'm called to.

35:36Speaker 1:I'm going to give you that again, because you just missed that filet mignon. What did I say again?

35:43Speaker 2:I don't have to copy what I saw. I can honor it, but I don't have to copy it. I can honor the tradition. Thank you, Moses. You built the tabernacle in the wilderness. Thank you, high priest. That's the line of Aaron. Thank you for that. There's nothing wrong with that. In many ways, it's a continuation of that, but are you copying something you're no longer called to? And another thing … This is what happened with the Pharisees. Do you remember the Pharisees and the Sadducees? They were sad, you see, because they esteemed the traditions of men above the traditions of God. That's what happened to them.

36:20Speaker 1:What does that mean?

36:21Speaker 2:That means that as the law was given from Moses, the law was good, but as it got copied … A copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy … Now, here's what had happened by the time Jesus showed up on the scene. They were still preaching God's commandments and copying those, but they had lost God's heart to the point where if a man got healed on the Sabbath, they would say, you can't do that. They copied the commandments. Jesus said Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. In copying it, they lost the quality of it. A lot of our life growing up … Everybody over 30 makes some noise. There's some stuff that isn't bad, but you're standing in front of something better. If you copy the way you did it before … As God is trying to bring you better … I'll give you an example from Moses' life. He did this one time. The people were thirsty one time in the wilderness. Moses is like,' Why, God?

37:26Speaker 1:Why?' Like you're running.

37:28Speaker 2:Carpool in a couple of weeks, okay?

37:30Speaker 1:Why, God? Why?

37:33Speaker 2:So the Lord is like,' Well, take that staff I gave you and strike the rock, and then the water will come out.' He's like,' Really?' He's like,' Really. I'm going to show the people that I'm God.' He's like, all right. The same staff … Remember it? I preached a few weeks ago. He parts the sea with it. Well, now he strikes the rock with it. Here comes the water, and the people drink, and God doesn't kill them, and they go on to complain some more. Now, you have to go all the way to the end. Here's something that says in Hebrews. It says in Hebrews 13.7. Look at it later. Remember your leaders who spoke the word of God concerning you and considered the outcome of their way of life.

38:07Speaker 1:Now, when we're looking at somebody's Instagram feed, we're not seeing the outcome of their their way of life. We're seeing the snapshot.

38:17Speaker 2:Even when you interact with people in church, they do not always lift their hands like they were doing 35 minutes ago. They're not always so peaceful and so worshipful and so holy. So don't judge yourself according to that, but the Scripture says consider the outcome.

38:33Speaker 1:Of their way of life.

38:35Speaker 2:The reason Moses couldn't lead the people in is because in his frustration about the people's grumbling, This is crazy, because I think I've done this before. God told him the second time they were thirsty in the wilderness, speak to the rock, and the water will flow out. But Moses didn't want to speak to the rock. He wanted to do it how he did it before. So, in his frustration … You've been frustrated lately. So, what you've been doing … This is what Moses did. It says he struck the rock that God told him to speak to.

39:09Speaker 2:I'm going to do it like I did it before. I don't care what you say, God. I'm going to get my way.

39:18Speaker 1:Right away. I'm going to do this the way it benefits me. I'm the man. I'm Moses.

39:29Speaker 2:He didn't get into the promise, because he copied the way God told him to do it before. What I was wondering while I was praying … I pray for y'all. By the time we get together … I've been with you all week.

39:48Speaker 1:I'm serious. I've been with you all week.

39:51Speaker 2:I thought about how you are praying about some things in your life right now. You need water from a rock, water in the wilderness. That could be provision. That could be an emotional need you have. If I take it all the way, I see some of you trying to do what you did 10 years ago, and it's not working, so.

40:11Speaker 1:You are stuck.

40:13Speaker 2:Because you are copying the way you struck the rock. Now God is giving you a new way to do it, but you won't do it the new way. As long as I copy the way I did it back then … I got a text from a friend the other day, and he said, I want you to understand you're in a new season as a preacher now. I said, Tell me about it. He said, It's the season of a father. You're no longer a 26-year-old church planter. When you preach, step into your role as a father now. I said, I have people in the church who are 20 years older than me. He said, it's not about chronology. It's about calling.

41:04Speaker 1:God is giving you permission to do it different. To do it different.

41:09Speaker 2:Say it.

41:11Speaker 1:Do it different. Do it different. Tell the person next to you, do it different. You have to do it different.

41:15Speaker 2:If you keep hitting stuff the way you're hitting stuff, if you keep doing things out of frustration, if you keep trying to copy what you did before … See, this is.

41:24Speaker 1:What gets me. I heard a guy one time.

41:27Speaker 2:He was standing up to preach to his congregation, and he said, I wish I could have coffee with everybody in this church and share what I'm going to share with you today.

41:39Speaker 1:I sat there and thought, well, you could. The church had 40.

41:43Speaker 2:People in it, so you could knock that out by Thursday if you're really motivated. He had heard another pastor who pastored 30,000 people say that, and he thought, well, that sounds cool. So now he gets up and copies in his context what he saw somebody else do in a context that is not his context. This is like … Remember when David put on the armor of Saul, and he walked around for a moment, and he has to fight Goliath? He's like, I guess you'll give me whatever the guy wears who fights.

42:21Speaker 1:Saul is like, Here you go. You can wear mine. David walks around in them a little bit, and he's like, This is heavy. This is weird. This is not me right now.

42:33Speaker 2:I think I would be better off with my slingshot … with what God called me to do. I know this is how you would fight, but I have to do it differently. Some of you, as teenagers, God is going.

42:48Speaker 1:To show you you don't have.

42:50Speaker 2:To go to every party, because at the end of popularity, a lot of the people who are so popular are going home so miserable. I tell you, I'm a dad right now. I'm preaching like a dad. Parents, we don't have to copy the way everybody else raises their kids. You have permission to break tradition with whatever does not fit your calling. You have to build in the valley what God showed you on the mountain. In case you haven't noticed, we live in a culture that worships our.

43:26Speaker 1:Kids at the expense of our families.

43:31Speaker 2:I had moments when the kids were all playing sports where I said, Nobody's coming to your game tonight. We're dropping you off, and we're going on a date, because I haven't been with your mom in two weeks. After you leave me, she's going to be the only one I have left in the house.

43:42Speaker 1:I'll pick you up, and you can tell me about it, and maybe somebody else will get a video. So what?

43:54Speaker 2:I'm supposed to parent them like they're all Serena and Venus, like I'm supposed to be.

43:59Speaker 1:Tiger Woods' dad?

44:00Speaker 2:I know.

44:00Speaker 1:Culturally inappropriate reference. A lot of stuff comes along with all of this.

44:05Speaker 2:Everybody has to do it the way God shows you to do it. But what happens is we start building according to somebody else's blueprint. Whether it's the world, whether it's the concept of God you were handed that is not accurate to the Scripture, you need to read the Bible for yourself.

44:30Speaker 1:I'm not your professional Holy Spirit. I'm a preacher.

44:34Speaker 2:You need to get in Hebrews and say, Well, Pastor Steven missed this part. Now, this part was the best part. He said that, but that made me wonder about that.

44:41Speaker 1:If it's just a copy … of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy … I'm just Pearl Jam. I'm not Jimmy. I'm not Jesus. Neither is Moses.

44:59Speaker 2:Neither are your broke friends you're taking financial advice from or your unmarried friends who are giving you marriage advice.

45:05Speaker 1:Well, I would tell them. I bet you would. Your imaginary marriage. I feel the spirit of Dave Ramsey coming on me.

45:17Speaker 2:Anyway, be careful to obey the word I have given you, Joshua. You're going to go somewhere they couldn't go. You're going to do something they couldn't do. You're going to break chains.

45:29Speaker 1:That held them all their life.

45:31Speaker 2:Now you do it and be strong and courageous.

45:43Speaker 1:Stop copying crazy.

45:45Speaker 2:Because you don't want to be weird.

45:51Speaker 1:I want to be weird.

45:53Speaker 2:If what I'm seeing in this world right now is normal, God make me weird.

45:59Speaker 1:I want to be the weirdest one there is.

46:07Speaker 2:Y'all not let your kids listen to that rock and roll music and that rap music.

46:11Speaker 1:I'll tell you what. Right now, that's bad. They're the devil.

46:14Speaker 2:I saw all the kids that went off after their parents didn't experience anything with them. I have to decide how to raise my kid. Y'all, I put a picture of me on a … We might take this out before we put it on YouTube.

46:26Speaker 1:Y'all check with me.

46:28Speaker 2:I put a picture of me one time with the kids.

46:30Speaker 1:We went to see God's Team, the Clemson Tigers. Sorry, pal. He's got a Gamecock shirt on.

46:35Speaker 2:I had on a Guns N' Roses shirt … Now, all the comments on the picture said, why are you wearing a Guns N' Roses shirt? That's worldly. Not as good as you're spending time with your kids. Like you live in a monastery. So, be careful what you copy. Be careful that you don't copy the condemnation. that other people put on you. This is the last thing I'll tell you, and then I will just be quiet, and I will go baptize Graham.

47:13Speaker 1:And I'm going to have the best time doing it. I'm baptizing him not in my name, in Jesus' name. I want you to do it like Jesus did it.

47:27Speaker 2:I wanted to tell you one more thing God told Joshua. Be careful what you copy in your heart, for it will set the direction of your life. You hear what he told Joshua? He said, Meditate on this book of the law that Moses gave you. Don't be like Moses. You're different than Moses, but I want you to take the same word of God that was given to him.

47:52Speaker 1:What a brilliant thought.

47:55Speaker 2:What I copy in my heart … He said, I want you to meditate on what I spoke over you so you can lead these people.

48:02Speaker 1:Where I called you to go.

48:03Speaker 2:Do you see how meditation sets direction? A lot of us, with what we do with different things that we've thought about ourselves, said about ourselves, agreed with about ourselves, condemnation the enemy has put on us, we do a copy and paste.

48:18Speaker 1:So, we take something like, you know, that I'm unworthy. We take something like that I'm not good enough, that I'll never be, that I da-da-da, da-da-da. And so, then I copy and paste it.

48:29Speaker 2:I almost did an illustration where I wanted to show you what would happen to the screen if you copied and pasted that over and over again.

48:35Speaker 1:It would fill up. I'm unworthy. You know what? Apart from the grace of God, we are. You know how they say sometimes on walkie-talkie, they say, copy that? Copy that. Copy that.

48:58Speaker 2:What God wants you to do is start meditating on his words, not the ones somebody else spoke, and copy it in your heart. He said, I'm going to give you a new covenant. a better covenant. It's not written on tablets of stone, because those break. I'm going to put it on your heart, and I'm going to give your heart a flesh. I want you to take your to take your Bible, and I want you to take what God has spoken over your life, and I want you to copy that. I want you to find out what he called you, what he gifted you to do, what he put the seed of potential in for you, and copy that. Don't get so caught up in trying to copy something you're not you never find out who you are. You will have to be strong and courageous, because you live in a culture that copies crazy. It'll take faith, and it'll take focus. But if God said that you are his child, copy that. When God speaks that I'm going to take even the mistakes you've made in your life, and I'm going to whip them up into something you'll be testifying about as a miracle three months from now.

50:18Speaker 1:Then copy that.

50:21Speaker 2:I have these moments where God uses somebody to encourage me, and my first instinct is to cancel it out. Oh, they just said that because they're being nice. Oh, they're just complimenting me because they're sucking up because I'm the boss. Oh, she just said that because she has to live with me, and she doesn't want me in a bad mood.

50:35Speaker 1:I'll cancel it. instead of copying it.

50:42Speaker 2:Then somebody says something mean about me, negative about me, or they don't even have to say it. I say it to myself, and you want to copy that? Anyway, when I baptize you in a minute, can you come up? We won't wrestle this time. Yeah, just come all the way up. Were y'all here when I wrestled with him? This is Graham. He says funny stuff like, How am I so ripped in every part of my body? Nobody else in our family is naturally muscular. When I baptize you in just a.

51:29Speaker 1:Minute … It'll be after the cameras are off and all that.

51:44Speaker 2:I asked Mom to get you here early today, but then I decided just to do it now because the Lord told me to end my sermon this way because he would use it to speak to others, so I'm going.

51:52Speaker 1:To say it to you.

51:54Speaker 2:This Bible I started preaching from right after you were born. I had given the big one, the life application one, to Elijah, the one that sits by his bed.

52:04Speaker 1:He's actually been reading it a lot lately, so that's good. And Every time I preached a passage, I highlighted it, and I put what I preached.

52:16Speaker 2:I've been saving it for you. I want to give it to you today. I wrote you a letter, and I told you a story. You can read that later. I marked in it where Jesus was baptized. Even Jesus was baptized. He was setting the example. You're not Jesus.

52:40Speaker 1:You're nothing close. I'm not John the Baptist, but when you're going to be baptized as a symbol, it's you emulating the death of Christ and the resurrection of Christ and the washing away of your sin. It doesn't save you, but it says that you're saved and that you belong to Christ.

53:01Speaker 2:In the note … I highlighted this for you, and I put it all in the letter, but just in case it helps somebody else … When Jesus was baptized, a voice from heaven said, This is my Son, whom I love. With him I am well pleased. I want you to copy that in your heart.

53:32Speaker 1:I'm concerned that the culture is going to copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. The Devil will try to tell you all kinds of things through your life that you're not called or you're not chosen or it's not worth it or you're missing out by following Christ and all that. It's not true. I want you to copy that.

53:53Speaker 2:The craziest thing is God said that to Jesus before he opened any blind eyes, before he multiplied fish and loaves, before he did any of his miracles.

54:05Speaker 1:God said, I love you. I'm pleased with you. Copy that. Feels awkward? No? It's good, though. When you go down in that water, I want you to know that you can die to the old. When you come up out of the water, you're raised to walk in the newness of life. Copy that. Stand up on your feet. Scripture says in Ephesians 5.1, be imitators of God as dearly loved children.

55:18Speaker 2:When you didn't see the model of love, it's hard to recreate it. When you didn't see the model of acceptance, it's hard to recreate it. But today there is a voice from heaven speaking over you too. There is a better covenant. This is my child. Do I'm well pleased? Copy that. Father, I speak your word over every man and woman today, from the ones that are 10 feet away from me to.

55:54Speaker 1:The ones who are thousands of miles removed. I pray that as your word comes from heaven.

56:01Speaker 2:Like the rain that falls, like the snow that comes down, and accomplishes its purpose … your word would replenish and multiply the seed that is in our heart today. We thank you that you are bringing us into something better than Egypt, better than the world's customs. We thank you that you are bringing us into something better than Moses. You're better than we ever thought you could be.

56:32Speaker 1:When your word speaks one thing and our fear speaks another, we choose to agree with what you spoke. We will copy that. In the name of Jesus, I pray.

56:49Speaker 2:Amen. Take a screenshot and share it on your social stories and tag us at Elevation Church.

57:05Speaker 1:Thanks again for listening. God bless you.