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   30 Sep 2026 · 1 hr 32 min

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   The El Niño now building in the tropical Pacific is unlike anything in the historical record, and it's arriving on top of decades of warming. Together, they could push global temperatures to roughly 1.8°C (3.2ºF) above pre-industrial levels next year, offering a preview of what may become the new normal within a decade. As the rate of warming continues to accelerate and public attention swings between alarm and fatigue, how can we clearly understand where the planet is actually headed and what it will take to adapt? In this episode, Nate is joined by climate scientist Zeke Hausfather to…

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   25 Sep 2026 · 15 min

   A State of the World Address: The Climate Speech We'll Probably Never Hear | Frankly 160

   On the heels of Climate Week, Nate poses a thought experiment: What would a world leader's speech sound like if the difficult truths underpinning global heating – which are politically unsayable due to donors, borders, electoral campaigns, and other incentives – were laid bare to the public? Posing as this hypothetical world leader, Nate traces modern prosperity back to the extraordinary inheritance of ancient sunlight we discovered in the form of fossil fuels. Their extraction and depletion have made today's civilization possible, while simultaneously bringing forth dire consequences for…

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   23 Sep 2026 · 1 hr 7 min

   The Escalation Trap: Is America's Strategy in Iran Backfiring?

   The United States, a global superpower for the last several decades, is now locked into a battle for control over the region with the bulk of the world's remaining fossil fuel reserves. Despite U.S. military strength, Iran is not backing down, equipped with a new era of military technology. What happens if the U.S. strategy backfires against its leadership's intention, and what are the larger implications for the balance of geopolitical power? In this episode, Nate welcomes military historian and political scientist Robert Pape for an in-the-moment breakdown of the Iran war's trajectory.…

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   16 Sep 2026 · 1 hr 39 min

   Radical Simplicity: The Opportunities of a World in Collapse with Sarah Wilson

   For years, the climate movement ran on the promise that, if we all rally hard enough, we could have it all: continue with our current system and save the planet. Yet the events of the past few decades have shown that this isn't quite the case, and in fact, climate is just one crisis among many produced by our growth-at-all-costs system. This raises the question: What happens when a culture built on the certainty of progress has to confront its own uncertainty? In this episode, Nate is joined by philosopher and author Sarah Wilson for an exploration of the emotions that come from learning…

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   11 Sep 2026 · 19 min

   The Human Predicament: What Would Change My Mind? | Frankly 158

   This week's Frankly begins with a deceptively simple question Nate was asked in conversation: what would change his mind about The Great Simplification thesis? Nate uses the question as a jumping-off point to examine what evidence would actually cause him to reassess his view that human civilization is moving toward a deflationary depression driven by resource constraints, ecological overshoot, and the widening gap between financial claims and material reality. He lays out a series of concrete biophysical signals that would challenge that diagnosis but also emphasizes that these numbers are…

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   9 Sep 2026 · 54 min

   Banning Superintelligence: Are We Building Humanity's Replacement? with Roman Yampolskiy

   The world's leading AI companies tell us that superintelligence has a strong chance of leading to human extinction, while also promising that they will be able to control it, offering unlimited power to the one who does it first. So far they've run completely unchecked, but would that change if we knew that "safe" general superintelligence is actually a mathematical impossibility? In this episode, Nate is joined by Dr. Roman Yampolskiy, one of the earliest researchers in AI safety, to lay out why "controllable superintelligence" is a misguided goal, destined to lead to an entity smarter than…

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   9 Oct 2026 · 59 minNew

   Humanity's Icarus Moment: The Wings, the Sea, and the Sun of AI | Frankly 161

   This week Nate examines artificial intelligence through the metaphor of Icarus, asking what risks arise when a civilization injects trillions of cognitive workers into a civilization that's already in resource overshoot. Emphasizing that our society already largely ignores the depleting fossil energy that powers our lives, Nate traces how AI could amplify our economic growth imperative rather than help us escape it. He also touches on optimization – how solving solely for efficiency erodes the robustness and slack that allow our human systems to adapt to energy and material descent. The…

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   7 Oct 2026 · 1 hr 15 min

   A World-Changing Event: We're Not Going Back to January 2026 with Art Berman

   Almost eight months after the Iran war first rattled global energy markets, the global system has proven surprisingly adaptable, even as prices continue to rise and product shortages become more common. But as those buffers run dry and diesel prices climb to the equivalent of over $200 a barrel, the slack in our system is starting to disappear. How much longer can our hyper-connected economic system stagger along, and where is it already breaking? In this episode, Nate welcomes back petroleum geologist Art Berman for a follow-up to their May conversation, to take stock of what's changed…

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   4 Sep 2026 · 39 min

   Turning the Dials Back on Psychopathy: Decent People, Indecent System | Frankly 157

   This week's Frankly builds on Nate's recent conversation with systems theorist Greg Elliott, who came on the platform to discuss why our institutions themselves have become psychopathic and how that affects the behavior of the average human. Nate maps Greg's framework onto the global economic Superorganism through the imagery of seven "dials" that can be turned to change the incentives baked into the system – from those that might be present in a small-scale, collaborative community to those of the modern, complex society we live in today. Together, these dials help explain how a species…

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    2 Sep 2026 · 1 hr 38 min

    The Collapse of Our Mythology: Can Humanity Choose What's Next? with Charles Eisenstein

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