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This episode of The Moonshot Podcast explores how X is reimagining computer chip design to power the next generation of AI. Computer engineer Tammo Spalink joins host Astro Teller to discuss Project Positron and their radical decision to build "positronic brains" for robots that prioritize real-time response over raw throughput. Astro then speaks with Raj Apte about Project Bodger, a moonshot that uses AI to design the hardware of the future. By moving away from traditional, hand-drawn architectures and toward "inverse design," the team explores how computers can create chips that are faster…

The Moonshot Podcast

by X, The Moonshot Factory · English · Tech & Science

The Moonshot Podcast chronicles the untold stories of innovation - both highs and lows - from inside Google’s Moonshot Factory.  In Season 2, Captain of Moonshots Astro Teller sits down with a new crop of moonshot takers exploring the next frontiers in health, biology, computing and more. 

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  1. S2 · E9 · 27 May 2026 · 19 min

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  2. S2 · E8 · 13 May 2026 · 59 min

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    This episode of The Moonshot Podcast explores what the mind can teach us about technology and how technology can help our minds. First, Astro is joined by Sarah Laszlo from Project Valkyrie to discuss how looking at biological brains, such as that of a fruit fly, might unlock the key to more energy-efficient supercomputing. Next, Astro speaks with Obi Felton who led project Amber, a moonshot that attempted to build a more affordable EEG device that could detect and measure mental health diseases like depression and anxiety. – Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast…

  3. S2 · E7 · 6 May 2026 · 51 min

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  4. S2 · E5 · 22 Apr 2026 · 47 min

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  5. S2 · E4 · 15 Apr 2026 · 36 min

    Breaking New Ground

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  6. S2 · E3 · 8 Apr 2026 · 37 min

    Chasing the Wind, Storing the Sun

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  7. S2 · E10 · 3 Jun 2026 · 52 min

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  8. S2 · E2 · 1 Apr 2026 · 40 min

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  9. S2 · E1 · 25 Mar 2026 · 44 min

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