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Comp and Coffee

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Comp and Coffee is a podcast by Payscale where we explore the art and science of compensation management. Grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and join us for conversations on pay and performance—packed with insights, practical tips, and strategies to help you stay ahead in a rapidly evolving world of w

New episodes: Monthly
Typical length: 37 min
Latest: 7 Oct 2026
Language: English

Latest episode

7 Oct 2026 · 45 min

Is pay for performance is breaking under modern expectations?

For many years, pay for performance has been a core principle of compensation. Perform well, earn more. Contribute more, receive a bigger increase. Reward the people who create the most value. Simple enough in theory. But today’s workplace is making that model harder to defend. Employees expect more transparency around how pay decisions are made. Leaders are under pressure to retain critical talent. Compensation teams are balancing performance, market movement, internal equity, and increasingly constrained budgets. So what happens when performance-based pay is expected to solve everything?…

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7 Sep 2026 · 29 min
Is compensation always-on?
For the longest time, compensation has revolved around an annual rhythm. One yearly market data refresh. One compensation planning cycle. But that rhythm no longer matches the pace of today's workforce. Jobs evolve faster than ever. Skills become outdated in months instead of years. AI is changing work, labor markets shift overnight, and new pay transparency regulations require organizations to make compensation decisions with greater consistency and confidence. So what happens when the business changes every day, but compensation only changes once a year? In this episode, we explore why…
31 Aug 2026 · 33 min
The job is changing faster than the job description
For years, organizations could define a role and expect its responsibilities to remain relatively stable. Today, that assumption no longer holds. AI is reshaping work. New skills emerge constantly. Responsibilities evolve faster than organizations can update job descriptions, job architectures, or compensation frameworks. The result? Employees are doing work that doesn't match their job descriptions. Recruiters are hiring for skills that don't fit existing roles. Compensation teams are trying to benchmark jobs that seem to change every quarter. So what happens when the work changes faster…
9 Aug 2026 · 32 min
Aligning talent acquisition and compensation when jobs keep changing
Jobs aren't changing once every few years anymore. They're evolving constantly. Skills are shifting, AI is reshaping roles, and organizations are redefining jobs faster than traditional job architectures can keep up. At the same time, Talent Acquisition and Compensation teams often evaluate talent through different lenses. Recruiters are responding to hiring realities and candidate expectations, while Compensation is balancing market data, internal equity, and long-term pay strategy. In this episode, we explore how these two functions can stop speaking different languages and start working…
13 Jul 2026 · 33 min
You don't have to be on a compensation island all by yourself
Compensation has never been more visible, more complex, or more connected to business outcomes. Yet many HR and compensation teams are expected to manage pay transparency, market movement, budget planning, manager enablement, and executive expectations with limited resources and little specialized support. In this episode, we explore why compensation expertise has become one of the most valuable resources organizations can access and how strategic partnerships can help HR leaders move beyond administration and become more influential business advisors. Guests: • Jenny Walling – Senior…
13 Jul 2026 · 58 min
Why your top performers may be a flight risk
Flight risk is rarely loud. Most of the time, it shows up quietly in compensation data long before it shows up in resignation letters. Across organizations, roles, and levels, the same pattern is emerging: the market is moving faster than internal pay structures. New hires are coming in at higher rates than tenured employees in similar roles. Certain jobs are consistently priced higher externally than they are internally. And top performers are paying attention. This creates a different kind of retention challenge. Employees don’t need to be disengaged to start looking elsewhere. They just…
22 Jun 2026 · 47 min
Compensation in the age of AI: Innovation, governance, and trust
Compensation professionals are no longer asking whether AI will change their work—they're asking how, where, and how fast. Teams are experimenting with tools like Claude, Copilot, and ChatGPT to help analyze data, draft communications, support pay decisions, and streamline compensation processes. Vendors are rolling out AI features and workflows in their products. At the same time, leaders are navigating legitimate questions about data privacy, governance, accuracy, and trust. Some see AI as the next major transformation in compensation management. Others worry we're moving faster than our…
16 Jun 2026 · 39 min
EU pay transparency directive debrief: The deadline has passed. Now what?
For the last three years, organizations across Europe have been preparing for the biggest shift in pay transparency and pay equity regulation in a generation. The EU Pay Transparency Directive promised to reshape how employers think about compensation — from pay structures and job architecture to reporting obligations and how employees access pay information. Now, the transposition deadline has arrived. And the picture is... complicated. Some countries met the deadline. Many didn't. What's emerged is a patchwork of requirements across member states — some with finalized legislation, others…
22 May 2026 · 1 hr 3 min
What your ELT really wants to know about pay. A CPO and CFO conversation
Compensation is no longer just an HR process. It is a business decision that executive teams are paying close attention to. In this special podcast episode, adapted from a recent Payscale webinar, Chief Product Officer Lexi Clarke and Chief Financial Officer Philip Watson discuss how organizations can rethink compensation reporting to better align with business goals and executive expectations. Drawing from insights in Payscale’s 2026 Compensation Best Practices Report, they explore the questions leadership teams are asking after recent merit and pay cycles, including how compensation…
8 May 2026 · 33 min
Why skills-based pay is finally within reach
For decades, organizations have talked about paying for skills instead of jobs. The idea is simple. Reward people based on what they can do, not just the role they hold. But in practice, it has always been difficult to execute. Skills are hard to define, harder to measure, and nearly impossible to track consistently across a workforce. At the same time, the market is shifting fast. AI-related skills are in high demand, showing up in job postings across industries. But new data shows those skills don’t always translate into higher pay. So organizations are facing a disconnect. They know…
21 Apr 2026 · 19 min
We have an announcement...
Recorded live from WorldatWork Total Rewards 2026 in San Antonio, this special episode of Comp and Coffee gives you an inside look at the launch of Payscale Intelligence Cloud. Host Ruth Thomas is joined by Chief People Officer Lexi Clarke to share what they are hearing on the ground, including a key insight that 54% of practitioners are struggling with disconnected tools, systems, and processes, and what that means for the future of compensation. They explore how compensation is evolving from a behind the scenes function into a strategic, always on business lever. You will hear how Payscale…
25 Mar 2026 · 40 min
Pay equity isn't dead
The gender pay gap has widened. New data from the 2026 Gender Pay Gap Report shows the uncontrolled gender pay gap increased from $0.83 to $0.82, meaning women earn 18% less than men on average. That difference translates to $14,300 per year in lost earnings, and over $1 million across a career. At the same time, organizations are navigating a new era of pay transparency legislation, tighter compensation budgets, and growing scrutiny around fairness in pay practices. So what does pay equity actually look like in 2026? In this episode of Comp and Coffee, Ruth Thomas is joined by Vicky…
15 Mar 2026 · 33 min
The hidden cost of peanut butter pay
When budgets shrink, performance pay is put to the test. The 2026 Compensation Best Practices Report tells a clear story: budgets are tighter, bonuses are shrinking, and organizations are reaching for simpler pay strategies to get through the year. Today we're exploring what happens when compensation decisions prioritize administrative ease over strategic intent — and what leaders can do about it. In this episode of Comp and Coffee, Ruth Thomas is joined by Founder of Payformance Partners Marc Mullis and People Operations leader at Leapfrog, Brittany Vogel to explore how organizations can…
24 Feb 2026 · 38 min
When pay research speaks: What HR and compensation leaders need to know now
In this episode of Comp and Coffee, Ruth Thomas sits down with Stacey Harris, Chief Research Officer at Sapient Insights Group, and Amy Stewart, Payscale’s Manager of Content & Research, to unpack how HR and compensation leaders can turn data into strategic, defensible decisions. We explore the latest research on HR systems, compensation trends, and the growing role of AI in pay and talent management. Stacey shares insights from the 28th annual HR Systems Survey, highlighting the tension HR leaders face between driving growth and managing costs, navigating workforce shifts, and understanding…
24 Feb 2026 · 37 min
The business impact of confident pay
Pay decisions do not live in isolation. They shape hiring speed, retention, employee trust, and ultimately business performance. According to Payscale’s 2026 Compensation Best Practices Report, 63% of organizations believe their compensation policies drive positive business outcomes. That confidence shows up in measurable ways, including lower voluntary turnover, faster time to fill, and stronger employee sentiment. In this episode of Comp and Coffee, Ruth Thomas brings together leaders from across Payscale’s people, research, and total rewards teams to unpack what “pay confidence” really…
20 Jan 2026 · 39 min
What's in and out for HR and compensation in 2026: Predictions, opportunities, and challenges
HR and compensation leaders are facing a new set of challenges and opportunities in 2026. From new pay transparency laws to AI-driven decision-making, the landscape is shifting fast. This episode unpacks what is in and what is out for the year ahead and explores the trends that will define the future of work. Email: [email protected] for listener questions and suggestions. Payscale End-of-Year report and HR Predictions: https://www.payscale.com/featured-content/end-of-year-top-jobs-report?utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin&utm_campaign=cnt_awr_eoyreport_wv&utm_content=eoyreport_pst…
5 Jan 2026 · 34 min
Lost in translation: How HR, finance, legal, and leadership can finally speak the same language about pay
Everyone agrees that pay matters. What they do not agree on is what it means. HR talks about fairness and equity.Finance talks about cost and ROI.Legal talks about compliance and defensibility.Leaders talk about performance and business outcomes. These perspectives are all correct, yet they often conflict. When they collide, compensation decisions lose clarity, employees feel confused, and managers deliver mixed messages—leaving HR as the translator. In this episode, Ruth Thomas is joined by Hannah Beaver, Director of Compensation at Trilogy Health Services, and Kim O’Grady, Compensation…
13 Nov 2025 · 35 min
Pay transparency again? What you actually need to know for 2026
Another conversation about pay transparency? We know what you are thinking, haven’t we already covered this? But the truth is, 2025 changed everything. From a wave of new state laws in the U.S. to Canada and the EU rewriting the playbook, pay transparency has moved from policy talk to daily reality. With 2026 around the corner, the stakes are only getting higher. In this episode of Comp and Coffee, host Ruth Thomas sits down with Vicky Peakman, Director at Fair Pay Partners, and Lulu Seikaly, Senior Corporate Attorney at Payscale, to unpack the year’s biggest developments and what is coming…
7 Nov 2025 · 36 min
AI overload? What HR Tech 2025 got right (and wrong)
At HR Tech 2025, AI stole the spotlight, but not everyone was convinced. Amid the hype and bold claims, HR and compensation professionals were asking tougher questions: What’s actually working? What’s just marketing? And how can AI really make their jobs easier? In this episode of Comp and Coffee, host Ruth Thomas sits down with Peh Keong Teh, Chief Product Officer at Payscale, Olivia Sedler, Product Manager at Payscale, and Mark Feffer, contributing analyst at 3Sixty Insights and editor of WorkforceAI.News and HCM Technology Report. Together, they cut through the noise from HR Tech, unpack…
3 Nov 2025 · 37 min
The most important pay conversations you're not having
In a year of tight budgets and increasing expectations of pay transparency, pay conversations are more critical than ever. Skipping, delaying, or diluting these conversations can erode trust and leave employees disengaged. In this episode of Comp and Coffee, host Ruth Thomas is joined by Payscale leaders to explore the “compensation telephone game,” share how HR trains managers to deliver clear messages, and discuss strategies for keeping the right talent engaged in a volatile environment. Guests: Lexi Clarke – Chief People Officer, Payscale Lauren Hein – Head of Total Rewards, Payscale…
29 Sep 2025 · 30 min
Pay transparency in practice: Making pay a universal language
Pay transparency laws are forcing the conversation—but alignment is what makes it stick. When it comes to pay transparency, HR, Legal, and leadership often speak in different “dialects.” HR frames it around equity and structure, Legal around compliance and risk, and leadership around outcomes and cost. The challenge? These perspectives rarely align into a shared understanding that employees can trust. In this episode of Comp and Coffee, we’re bringing together three leading voices to explore how organizations can move beyond compliance and turn transparency into a universal language of trust…
18 Sep 2025 · 28 min
Salary budgets are shifting — here’s how to stay ahead
Salary budgets are tightening — but strategy doesn’t have to. Payscale’s 10th Annual Salary Budget Survey reveals that planned pay increases for 2026 are dipping slightly from 2025, with economic uncertainty replacing competition for talent as the top driver of budget changes. But even in a cooling pay environment, HR and comp pros have a window to realign strategy before Q4 — if they have the right data in hand. In this episode of Comp and Coffee, host Ruth Thomas sits down with Amy Stewart, Payscale’s Principal of Research & Insights, and Kathryn Gombos, HR & Total Rewards Leader and…
27 Aug 2025 · 36 min
Fair pay means nothing if no one believes it
Fair pay means nothing if no one believes it. That’s the wake-up call from Payscale’s latest Fair Pay Impact Report. Despite rising wages, transparency laws, and improved market conditions, employees don’t believe they’re being paid fairly—and it’s costing businesses their best people. In this episode of Comp and Coffee, host Ruth Thomas is joined by Lexi Clarke and Kate Peter—three women in the C-suite who are putting fair pay back at the top of the agenda. They unpack what the data tells us, what it feels like as leaders, and what needs to happen next. Episode Resources: Fair Pay Impact…
8 Aug 2025 · 33 min
Turning pay into a business driver: A CHRO + CFO conversation
When the CFO asks why… will you panic or present your case with confidence? In this episode of Comp and Coffee, we go behind the scenes with Lexi Clarke and Philip Watson to uncover how HR and Finance can stop speaking past each other—and start building stronger pay strategies together. Whether you're preparing for budget season or defending comp decisions in the boardroom, this episode gives you the language, data, and mindset you need to show that compensation isn’t just a line item—it’s a lever for business success.
10 Jul 2025 · 38 min
The pay crystal ball: predicting the future with Pearl Meyer + Payscale
Compensation isn’t just an HR function—it’s a core business strategy. In this episode of Comp and Coffee, we look into the pay crystal ball with Rebecca Toman of Pearl Meyer, Ruth Thomas, Chief Compensation Strategist at Payscale, and Sara Hillenmeyer, Payscale’s Director of Data Science. Together, they explore how trusted data, AI, and a forward-thinking approach to comp strategy can help organizations not just keep up—but lead. If you care about performance, retention, equity, or executive pay, this episode is your blueprint for aligning comp strategy with long-term business success.
20 Jun 2025 · 40 min
Closing the Confidence Gap: Pay Strategy Challenges in 2025
What happens when your pay strategy sparks more questions than confidence—and your best people start walking? In this episode, we bring in the experts to tackle the hard truths behind tough pay conversations and how to rebuild trust before it’s too late. Episode resources: https://www.payscale.com/featured-content/cbpr Email [email protected] for listener questions and suggestions
13 Jun 2025 · 54 min
Compensation History: A Walk Through the Past and Future of Pay
Compensation has come a long way—from handwritten ledgers and dusty binders to AI-powered insights and real-time salary data. But what does the past teach us about where we’re headed? Join us for a nostalgia-packed, future-forward journey through the history of comp, featuring expert reflections from WorldatWork, and predictions from the people shaping the next era of pay.
E113 · 1 May 2025 · 27 min
113: Gender Pay Gap Report: Facts revealed
What's the state of the gender pay gap in 2025? In this episode Ruth Thomas discusses Payscale's 2025 Gender Pay Gap Report with Amy Stewart, Payscale's principal content strategist and author of the report. Together, they explore the controlled and uncontrolled pay gaps, the impact of pay transparency, and the various systemic factors contributing to the gender pay gap. Gain insights into why pay disparities persist and what organizations can do to address these inequalities. Key Highlights Discussion on the difference between controlled and uncontrolled pay gaps and their current figures.…
E112 · 29 Apr 2025 · 1 hr 1 min
112: Give your salary data strategy a glow up
With the median company now using three salary data sources—and four or more for larger organizations—it’s clear that more data is the norm. But more doesn’t always mean better. Are you truly getting the most out of your investment in compensation data? Or just adding complexity without clarity? In this episode, we break down what an effective compensation benchmarking strategy really looks like—and how to use multiple data sources strategically, not just simultaneously. Resources: 2025 Compensation Best Practices Report Quick Guide - Aggregate salary data strengthens job pricing confidence…
E111 · 16 Apr 2025 · 46 min
111: Leading through the gap: Women, pay equity & the path to the C-suite
Why has the gender pay gap stalled, and what does it take for women to break into leadership? In this episode of Comp & Coffee, Ruth Thomas sits down with Payscale’s Chief People Officer, Lexi Clarke, and Chief Customer Officer, Kate Peter, to explore the latest findings from the 2025 Gender Pay Gap Report. They discuss the challenges women face in leadership, the role of pay transparency, and what businesses can do to close the gap. Grab your coffee and join us for this important conversation! Key Highlights• Discussion of the persistent gender pay gap and the role of pay transparency in…

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Publisher: WRKdefined Podcast Network
Language: English
Category: Business
New episodes: Monthly
Typical length: 37 min
Latest episode: 7 Oct 2026
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