Episode notes
Don Prell passed away in 2026 at age 97. Born in 1929, Don went on the road with the Frank Ortega Band, played with people like Buddy Rich and Chet Baker, and was in the original Bud Shank Quartet. He played for the San Francisco Symphony for 30 years and, after retirement, formed his own group called the Sea Bop Ensemble, which played at various San Francisco spots, including the legendary Bay View Boat Club . Thank you to our sponsor! Carnegie Mellon University Double Bass Studio – CMU is dedicated to helping each student achieve their goals as a musician. Every week each student receives…
Podcast
Contrabass Conversations
Contrabass Conversations features interviews and performances from top leaders in the world of the double bass. Podcast host Jason Heath dives deep into what makes these world-class artists tick. With 2 million downloads and counting, Contrabass Conversations is the most popular podcast for double
More from Contrabass Conversations All episodes →
-
E1158 · 20 Aug 2026 · 46 min
1158: Neal Miner on Juzeks, Golden Spirals, and the Art of Playing Bass Melodies
New York City jazz bassist Neal Miner joins the podcast to talk about his new book of original bass-feature compositions , an 11-song collection designed for students and professionals to use in ensemble settings. Neal shares how longtime collaborator Chris Byars encouraged the project, how the book grew into play-alongs and a My Music Masterclass , and how his work as a bassist, teacher, composer, and documentary filmmaker all connect through a patient "chip away" creative process. We dig into Neal's love of bass melodies, contrafacts, gut strings, his longtime Juzek bass, Golden Spiral…
-
E1157 · 14 Aug 2026 · 38 min
1157: Kathryn Schulmeister on Imagining Hands
Kathryn Schulmeister joins the podcast to talk about Imagining Hands , her debut solo album on Protomaterial Records . A bassist, improviser, composer, and University of Wisconsin faculty member , Kathryn brings together contemporary music, storytelling, extended technique, and deeply personal experience in a project shaped by her time at UC San Diego, her work with Mark Dresser, and the narrative world of Clarissa Pinkola Estés' Women Who Run With the Wolves . We dig into the album's connection to The Handless Maiden , the thread-and-tabletop bass techniques behind "Underground Forest," the…
-
E1156 · 6 Aug 2026 · 49 min
1156: SoJung Kim's journey from Korea to the San Francisco Ballet Orchestra
SoJung Kim joins the podcast to share her journey from discovering the double bass in Korea to joining the San Francisco Ballet Orchestra . A graduate student at the Colburn Conservatory studying with Peter Lloyd, SoJung has performed with the One Korea Youth Orchestra and Orchestra Ensemble Seoul, spent summers at the Pacific Music Festival and Music Academy of the West , and first came to the instrument after hearing the deep resonance of a bass ensemble at her cousin's concert. We talk about SoJung's move from solo repertoire into the world of orchestral excerpts, the wake-up call of…
-
E1155 · 30 Jul 2026 · 54 min
1155: Orion Miller on preparation, structure, and trusting the process
Orion Miller joins the podcast to talk about his path from growing up in New York City to joining the San Francisco Symphony bass section. Orion studied at the Shepherd School of Music at Rice University with Tim Pitts and spent formative summers at places like Tanglewood , Music Academy of the West , and Aspen Music Festival . We dig into Orion's audition journey, including getting cut from the San Francisco Symphony preliminaries, rethinking how he prepared, and eventually winning the job after a trial week. Orion shares the practice system that changed everything for him, from 25% tempo…
-
E1154 · 16 Jul 2026 · 1 hr 1 min
1154: Dominik Wagner on teaching, competitions, and finding your sound
Dominik Wagner returns to the podcast for a wide-ranging conversation recorded during his visit to San Francisco for the 2026 Golden Gate Bass Camp . A prizewinner for many major solo competitions, Dominik has built an extraordinary career as a soloist, chamber musician, recording artist, and pedagogue, with albums including Giovanni Bottesini - Revolution of Bass , Chapters - A Double Bass Story , and Double Bass Rhapsody . He currently teaches at the University of Music and Performing Arts Vienna , and his work continues to expand what is possible on the double bass. We dig into Dominik's…
-
E1152 · 2 Jul 2026 · 56 min
1152: Noa Eve on Late Bloomer, Edgar tuning, and finding your own musical lane
Noa Eve (NoaBass) joins the podcast to celebrate the long-awaited release of *Late Bloomer ,* a debut album that blends virtuosic arco playing with the rhythmic grit of bluegrass, old-time, and acoustic music-making. We talk about the "10 years in the making" arc from Jason first hearing Noa play in the Bay Area to recording the album over three intense days in Portland, plus what it takes to bring a bass-forward project to life with a full band. Along the way, Noa shares how touring and real-world gig reps shaped their groove, arranging instincts, and confidence, plus why Edgar tuning and a…
-
E1151 · 25 Jun 2026 · 1 hr
1151: Hal Robinson on technique, teachers, and tools that work
Hal Robinson joins the podcast for a wide-ranging conversation on bass pedagogy, sound, and the practical fundamentals that actually move the needle. Hal reflects on his path from early studies with Paul Ellison to a career that spans major orchestras and shares how working alongside influential musicians like François Rabbath and Edgar Meyer helped shape a flexible, student-first teaching philosophy. We also dig deep into Hal's latest book Hitch-hikin' , which is a new look at the concepts Hal explored in his book Boardwalkin'. We dig into pivot health, low thumb position ("thumbage"),…
-
E1150 · 18 Jun 2026 · 1 hr 2 min
1150: Mary Ann McSweeney on Broadway Bass, Fado Roots, and the Reality of Subbing
Bassist, composer, and educator Mary Ann McSweeney joins Jason to talk about a career that spans Bay Area roots, L.A. training, and the demanding, ever-shifting world of Broadway and studio work. Mary Ann shares how piano and violin shaped her musicianship, what it took to become a stronger reader, and much more Enjoy, give Mary Ann a follow on Instagram , and check out this feature of her on YouTube: WPL's Jazz Series: Meet Mary Ann McSweeney . Thank you to our sponsor! Carnegie Mellon University Double Bass Studio – CMU is dedicated to helping each student achieve their goals as a…
-
E1149 · 11 Jun 2026 · 1 hr 7 min
1149: Caleb Quillen on auditions, orchestral sound, and leading by example
Caleb Quillen returns to the podcast to talk about the path that took him from growing up in Sugar Land, Texas, to principal bass of the Boston Symphony Orchestra. Along the way, he reflects on formative teachers, including Dennis Whittaker and Paul Ellison, the influence of the Boston bass tradition, and much more. Check out our text/media version of this conversation and our interview with Caleb from 2016 here , and learn more about Caleb on his Boston Symphony and New England Conservatory pages. Thank you to our sponsor! Carnegie Mellon University Double Bass Studio – CMU is dedicated to…
-
E1148 · 4 Jun 2026 · 44 min
1148: Georgia Wartel Collins on Practice, Texture, and Creative Freedom
Photo credit: Oscar Benjamin Berg Bassist, improviser, and genre-crosser Georgia Wartel Collins joins us today to talk about the winding path that led her to New York, via Gothenburg, Trondheim, and Amsterdam, and how a deeply musical family shaped everything from early street performances to a life that's always moved freely between styles. Georgia also shares how rock and grunge became real creative fuel alongside a love of melody, and why the upright bass, alive and changing every day, keeps offering new colors to chase. Enjoy, and follow along with Georgia and her very cool work on her…
