Planning Your AOL Summertime Pack Calendar

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0:34Hi, everybody. Welcome to COME CHAT LIVE. I'm Tamara. I'm your host today, my favorite time of the week. Jason Melton, my good friend who's joining us today, is Come CHAT LIVE. And I get excited because I see all my friends. They're logging into the chat. And Melissa Edens, you weren't first today. First my friend 232. She tells us that she's excited 'cause she has AOL this fall, Jason, and can't wait to see what we covered today. So far, she's signed the group up for an AOL Adventures weekend. I love that your council has that in September and meetings plan to complete rank for Cross the Ground February 3rd Yay. Awesome.

1:11Perfect. We're gonna talk about that. And we're gonna talk about that, aren't we, Jason? OK, so a couple more shout outs before we get started. Miss exploration. I don't know that I've got a chance to welcome you before, but I'm excited that you're here from North Dakota. I hope you're having some good weather. Jason and I were talking that we've got fun going on today. Makes it so much better, doesn't it? Jason's got a rusty. It's always good to see you from pack 84 in New Philadelphia.

1:36OH, and rich hair. It's always great to see you 151 in Scottsdale, Pennsylvania. Douglas Stark, always a pleasure having you here from Akron, OH. And Fred lover, it's so nice to have you from Three Fires Council. And then we've got Alexander Holtz. Hey, Alexander, it's good to see you. I hope you're having a really great day. He says happy Friday from Cub Scouts Pack 220 in Lee's Summit in the heart of American Council. Marshall Loveland, OH. I'm so glad to see you.

2:05Hope you're having some great weather up in Massachusetts. It's always awesome. Wendy Ewing, it's great to see you. Troop 38 and Pack 38. Janet Griffin, one of the rock star superstars of our Cub Scout committee, always great to see you. And Rob Brunner, I was just talking about how you're going to be at national annum meeting and I'm super excited about the opportunity to get to meet you from PAC City 270 in Frisco back with Kathleen Ryan from PAC-57 in Long Island.

2:34It's so good to have you with us, Kathleen. John Joseph, I have a question. OK, well, John, we may have an answer, I'm not sure. Just pop it into the chat and we will try to get to it. Cub Scouts Pack 169 Forest Scout Oregon Hello, it's good to see you celebrating our 75th birthday today. Happy birthday, that is so. Awesome. And then we have Sonya Morton from Lubbock, TX. You're probably having some great weather in Texas. And then we've got Cub Scouts Pack 169 in Forest Grove, OR Happy to celebrate with Cub Chat Live. Yay.

3:12I was just gonna I had like this like one of those things that you blow and it like for birthday things and I can't find it really easily. So sorry about that. I. Don't have one of those? But it's there for you, for your pack. I'm very excited for you. So, Jason, we're here to talk about some cool stuff today. Yeah, I think it's cool stuff. I have a rising AOL so I think it's especially cool. Absolutely. So today, tell us what we're going to talk about, Jason. Yeah, so.

3:37We're going to talk about meeting with your AOL's in the summer and and I want to be clear about what I mean. I don't mean the normal summertime fun activities you're planning for your entire unit. Anyway, those are in addition to this. And so this is not something you are required to do. This is not in the handbook. We are not telling you thou shout meet during the summer. It's it's totally optional, but I think it's a great idea and we're gonna talk about why I think it's a great idea.

4:07So it's just one hour extra a week, right? So what I love about this concept of getting your ALS busy and getting them doing stuff, not just the let's go, you know, do some fun stuff over the summer, which of course we all should be doing with our Cub Scout. Packs we should have, absolutely. Shop and not having any fun during the summer, but to be able to get your AOL actually, you know, accomplishing stuff and getting some stuff done is really important.

4:33So you're going to kind of lead us through some ideas. I think you have some council examples. I'm excited because the council examples you had were amazing. So. So where do we start? Yeah. So let's start with the second slide that I had. So somewhere not that one, the next one. So we recommend the National Council and in the handbook it recommends that your crossover date for your AOL to be between February and March. And there's really specific reasons for this.

5:01It's not just because we don't want you to go to the end of the school year. It's to help integrate your kids into the troop in time for summer camp. I personally don't want my daughter thrown cold into the troop and the next thing she's doing is going to summer camp like 3 or 4 hours away. And I may or may not be going with her. I want her to have friends in the troop. I want her to be integrated and, and know people and, you know, have a relationship with the Scout master and the ASMS that are going to go already.

5:30And so meeting earlier helps you do this. And then crossing over early also gives you these opportunities to, you know, work a little bit on rank, maybe pick up a merit badge before you go to summer camp and kind of understand how that new patrol life works. I love, I love, I love that you. I'm going to like, I'm going to, I know, 'cause you could go on probably for 14 hours on this. Topic. I'm talking to just throw in some stuff. What I love about that is that I know a lot of kids when they go over to the troop, even though they think they're cool, the people in this the troop are cool. It's like it's hard sometimes because they're new, right? And they may not know them all from school, right? And maybe completely new people.

6:11And this gives them a chance to do that. And also I love the idea that they're getting the chance to get to know not only the scout master, but some of the other trusted adults that are going on the camp outs. So if they end up with a question or a challenge or whatever, they have somebody that they know already and that they can feel comfortable asking, right? So that's I love that idea. Let me just throw out a couple more, John Joseph had a question.

6:33So we'll, John, we'll try to answer that later because he's asking about how to retain some of them, some stuff he's lost. David, it's nice to see you. Cubs got pack 77 in Charlottesville. My youngest of three will be an AOL, our last go round and come scouting David. It doesn't have to be the end though, friend, we will. Keep you in, Come scouts. As long as you'd like to help and then Kate Beneson, hello from Piedmont, CA. She's traveling to. Kate, that's so sweet of you to join us. I know you're with your family, so nice to see you there. OK, so we we're getting them in early. We've talked about why that's important. What else should we think about when we're talking about AOL and doing stuff in the summer?

7:13Yeah, so, but before we get to summer part of like there's a bonus and I think I have it on the next slide. Oh, I do. I have a bonus on the next slide. Look at me. So if you have a big enough unit to have that that's supporting you. So your troop that is in theory supporting you or your kids may or may not be going. If you have a den Chief their AOL year, it is such a good transition, almost like it was designed that that Den Chief becomes their troop guide when they crossover.

7:45So they have the same trusted older youth face as a AOL den slash patrol to actually becoming a patrol in the troop. They have that same person that they're talking to that's helping guide them. So bonus if you can do that man it, it sure will help. I love that. I love that. Getting all that. I think integrating with the troops, summertime stuff is so important. Nobody wants to get, let me tell you, nobody wants to get to November and discover that you didn't go on a camp out, right? I think you have to do that right. Yeah, scramble with the last minute to. Figure it out.

8:21Yeah. And a lot of us live in climates where if we get past November, we're probably not going to be camping out with our Cub Scouts. It may not be. It may not work out. Right. So. So that's that. Den chiefs are the best. Kim Salvo was saying. I agree. Hey John, Brian, if you could post the e-mail address that John can send an e-mail to so that we can capture his information. He needs some help reaching out to get some stuff that are to replace. So that would be very helpful.

8:49OK, so. Yeah, that's a good question. So should they be separated by gender at their AOL time? The answer prior to a couple of months ago was yes. The answer today is no. So because of the successful pilot of the family Troop program, before we had family troops, you were but by the letter of the law required to have two separate patrols is an AOL. Then if you if you were a family pack, you had to have a girls patrol and a boys patrol. But because there are now units that have both genders integrated, that is no longer the case. So you're den does not have to split up. Now when you hit the AOL, you're like it used to have to. So you can just keep on trucking with the same den slash patrol with boys and girls that you've had up to this point. That's absolutely true, So.

9:42If you don't have a family troop that they're going to absolutely keep them together, like if it works for you, where if if it doesn't work for you and it makes sense for you to split them into two patrols, do that. But you know, like the, the unit we happen to be at has a family troop. We have so many linked troops in our area that are almost family troops anyway that at least for us, it makes sense to have them stay together because they're probably going to stay together wherever they go. So Kayla has a question.

10:13She says I have a new AOL boy come. What can he do with the troop? A lot of stuff. And so we're going to talk about it. We'll talk about it. We'll get there. What? What I heard Kayla, that was a great question. We, we like, we're so excited that you're, like asking about this. So Jason's gonna get there. We're gonna get there. OK, so I have a slide for some. So I found a really good resource that I wanted to share that the Heart of New England Council put together. So this, they have an awesome resource I found for AOL transition.

10:49So they have an AOL to Scout crossover plan. This QR code will take you there. And we're not gonna line by line go through the document, but I it's, it's only three pages long. If we hit the next slide, it'll show us the first page of it, which really outlines like how you're gonna work with your troop and who should be responsible. And I know it's kind of small. The link to the presentation, which will also have the QR code if you didn't get it, will be posted at the end. But it kind of breaks down the responsibilities for who's going to plan the crossover ceremony, who's going to run the camp out. And then if we go to the next page, it'll list out like by month, what you should be doing, not not granular. Do this adventure.

11:34You will do Bobcat at this time, you will do pocket knives, you will do. But it breaks down kind of the how you're going to help these kids get from the pack to the troop if you don't already have that really good working relationship. And so you know it, it has all of these steps, which are great if you are starting from scratch. And then the last page wraps up with getting you all the way to summer camp and beyond with the troop. And so this plans for them crossing over in like February, March, which is right around the time frame that we're looking for.

12:11Right, so I love this. I good job this council. I always love to see our councils. They are so creative and amazing and they come up with some great resources. So it's really so awesome that we could leverage this and we will share this. This will be attached to this cub chat live in case this might help your unit or your council. Awesome. Yeah, that's awesome. So so we got this plan and we're doing this stuff and this is like very cool and then and it it. Yes Kayla, it is it's going to be available for replay and in fact, oh, she's at the doctor's office. Kayla, you are really amazing.

12:50We. Appreciate you being here with. Us, we really appreciate you being here. Maybe it's taking your mind off the fact that you have to be at the doctor's all of a sudden with you being or the dentist or anything like that. And oh, Wendy's, Wendy, you are so wise, my friend. She's tagging people in the comments. So please tag people in the comments that you think might benefit from the show. And yes, it's on. Not only is it on a replay, but you can listen to it as a podcast, Kayla.

13:16So on the way back from the doctor's office, perhaps? Right, yeah, you just won't get the fun visuals, but you know, whatever, the link is still there, so you'll get them anyway. When this gets posted, it will have all of these, these documents, it'll have the, the whole, the presentation and it will have this resource from the New England Council. So it's very excited. Oh, thank you, Kayla for, for tagging one of your friends. All right, so this is what they they've suggested.

13:43So I know your pack does some cool stuff. You're going to maybe lead us through some of the cool stuff that your pack does. Yeah. So we, we do weird things. We try to cross over our AOL's in December and and we have a reason for that. It's not because I just want to be done with the AOL's and move on to everybody else. Don't tell anybody but the actual. So our council holds a great winter camp in February and for our unit it's a very low risk first big event for these kids. It's not summer camp, it's at our council camp. Our unit camps out there all the time. So every one of these kids that's going to go as their first big event in the troop, they've already been there a bunch probably.

14:27And so they're going to be comfortable with the camp. It's not going to be 3 or 4 hours away from mom or dad, you know, it's very relaxed. And so it's an opportunity for them to get some merit badges under their belt, do a little bit of rank advancement and camp with the troop. And it's snowed the last two years, so that's been exciting, not for me, but for the kids. And so our schedule is built around doing actual rank advancement during the summer with our AOL. Because they're crossing over so early, they're going to miss the stuff we would do as a pack in January, February, March, and April.

15:04We do have them come back and do Pinewood Derby with us, but they're not actually doing adventures by that point. They're in the troop working on rank and merit badges and, you know, getting ready for summer camp and all the other crazy stuff. But I did make a slightly more friendly version because not everybody wants to work on advancement in the summer, especially if you anticipate getting new kids in. Nobody really wants to go back and do the same adventure two or three times to play catch up.

15:28If, you know, I've got a den of five kids and we pick up two more in September. Well, if they already did, you know, Bobcat and Citizenship and something else, I'm having to do Bobcat and Citizenship again. And as a den leader, that's not fun. Well, it can be fun, but maybe not, maybe not what everyone wants to do So, but and so and so in those cases, you could decide to send those home, right? Because the parents could potentially work on some of that stuff with them, right?

15:57Or you could redo it. And I, I know some of our leaders have talked about how when they, they have new people, because you never want to tell someone you can't join because we've already done all these like adventures, because that's not very friendly, right? And we don't want to, we want people, everyone to have the chance to be a come scout. So they have these like makeup sessions, right, where they come in. I think Melissa might have, Melissa Edens might have actually told me about this, but they come in and they have a makeup session and they kind of work on a bunch of stuff that people may have missed because they're. That's a good idea at.

16:28Something. Yeah. Isn't that a good idea? So. But I've got a, I've got a plan in, in the slides for electives and I've I've, I've made suggested recommendations because obvious. So the idea is you're meeting at the same time as your troop and there's reasons for that. I can tell you my reasons. So I want the parents to get used to meeting at a different night and a different time because our troop meets on Monday, our pack meets on Tuesday. And so I need them to start getting in that mindset to not have Monday night, Monday night busy because that's going to be where they're meeting after we cross them over. And so they need to get used to that. And so I'm not we're not meeting every week in the summer. We're meeting once every month with the troop. And so in our case, we would be doing required adventures here. So we would do Bobcat, we would do the knife safety elective. We would do we have two opportunities to do citizenship in June and July with service projects and then in August we do Ring Gutter Regatta as a unit and I had scheduled for them. Hold on.

17:34I have my paper plan right here, personal fitness and then we have a troop planning camp out that our troop holds where they plan their year. That's our AO LS first opportunity to camp with the troop so that they get to have input on all of the events that are planned after they joined. It's good to have that relationship with your troop so that your kids are having input after they crossover. So I love that. And another thing I saw, I heard from one of our packs or a couple of our packs that they actually have in their troop, they have a great partnership with their troop and their troop has an AOL kind of is, is also registered in the pack. So the AOL den leader is or the assistant den leader is also on a troop assistant scout master.

18:21And so they come to the troop meeting, they actually come to the meeting night that the troop is on at the location and they do stuff with that assistant scout master who's also who's leading them through some of these things. So that's like really, I thought very innovative because then you have an adult that the parents are getting to know the whole summer, right, going to be integrated in the troop. The kids are already getting to know all the kids because they're kind of there, even though they're not in the troop meeting, they're still in the location.

18:51So I think there's a lot of like, I think that was really clever, like, so I throw that out there because I think that's a neat way to do that. But I, I love what you're saying too. Getting people on that same troop night is a big thing. It helps them get that into their schedule, you know? And they're getting, they're meeting new kids, right? They're meeting these kids that are in the troop that are older than them. They're they're in theory making friendships and building these relationships. They're going to help them get through summer camp easier. Summer camp is hard the first year you're a scout. I can't speak through experience because I didn't get to do that as a kid, but I, I guarantee every leader that was in here, that first big summer camp was probably hard because you're used to having mom or dad camping with you and they're probably not there.

19:33And depending on when you crossed over in the troop, you might not know a lot of people. It's lonely. And so like the, it just helps. Every little bit helps. And so our plan is we meet with the troop, and I see that Alex Alexander Holt said that they meet every other meeting with the troop. That's awesome. Build that relationship. Yeah, there it is. Build that relationship. That Alexander Holt is doing that because he seems so rock star. Absolutely. So.

19:59And I and Renee had a question. So we have two troops fighting to get our scouts. What are some recommendations to help them not be stressed about getting them to both troops so. What a problem to have that the troops want you to come there so bad. It's not up to you as a parent or an as a, you know, in my case, as my daughter's den leader slash cub master, it's up to her where she wants to go, right? Where does she feel comfortable? Which meeting has the right vibe for her?

20:26Where are her friends going? Where has she already made friends? And so that should be your deciding factor. But yes, absolutely let the troops roll out the red carpet and wow you so that your kid has a hard decision. I wish that were the case everywhere. Yeah, and I feel like, you know, there's a lot of decisions we had in our area. We have a lot of amazing troops. So it's very difficult for families to select when they have to finally do that. And, and where their friends are, you know, is, is a lot of times where they want to go, right?

20:59Where did the kids from last year end up? You know, and are they friends right? Because then they have a built in set of friends already. But then they also, you know, look at size of the troop. Like does your, does your child thrive in a big environment? Like I had a, we had a troop that was 90. My child loved to be in that environment, right? He loved to be in a big pond. There were other kids that came into our troop that that wasn't their vibe, man.

21:23They needed something a little bit smaller. And then we had, we're so lucky that we had great troops of all sizes in our council, so they were able to choose that. So yeah, roll out the red carpet, moms and dads, bring your coffee mug up to at breakfast and get to know those leaders. Right, and get used to hanging out in the back and not be in the one running stuff, which is off topic. Probably the hardest transition you as a Cub Scout leader are going to make is going into the troop and you're not the one at the front of the room going all right, guys, let's, let's let's get this meeting started.

21:55Pay attention, quiet down. We're going to talk about these things. It's watching those older youth do that and knowing that your job is to keep them from burning the building down and killing each other. I mean. And like, you know, you're going to see, you're going to see where your kid fits in. I think the best. So Alexander says, I know that one of my leaders in my district said that their first year parents were stumped because their kid was soaring through ranks And others were like, I thought we were just, we were working together like we did in Cub Scouts.

22:22That's, you know, in those cases, I recommend a good parent meeting at the beginning of when you're when having people cross into a troop is so helpful because it helps understand, help them understand how advancement works. It's more individually oriented as opposed to group orientated, and Kayla says We're currently visiting troops to see where my little dude meshes. It's like picking a college. I know Kayla without the. Tuition and the admissions process. Exactly.

22:48Yeah, we used to have a room decoration like moment like we do for college kids. Alexander says. The leader said that this is a different ball game and it's on the kids. It is. And mom says we have 20 troops dressed in a district within 5 miles. I know, Rob, that's kind of a similar situation to us. We had eight troops come to our crossover one year. I know with that's an exciting problem to have, because that means that there's a lot of choices for people. So, and it means if you go to a troop and it doesn't work for you, you decide, your kid decides seven months in like, hey, you know what, this isn't the right place for me. You can go try a different troop. There's there's nothing that says you're set in stone, stuck where you start.

23:26And I love that people would know that. So if they went, and if you had eight troops at your crossover, then you're probably thinking, wow, like if this doesn't work out, like there's another troop that might be a better fit. Right. Yeah, I could go to any of these crazy places. I love that. OK, so we've gone through your amazing plan. That's awesome. And it sounds like a lot of people are doing some really spectacular things. If you're doing cool things over the summer with your AOL or or done that in the past, let us know.

23:54We'd love to hear what those are 'cause I it's just a great time. Summertime is a great time to I feel integrated. And troops don't stop meeting during the summer usually. They might meet maybe less frequently, but they don't stop meeting during the summer, so that's very cool. Yeah, and that's part of what you're getting your parents used to as well, right? Like in Cub Scouts, other than the fun stuff, most packs, I'm not going to say all because I know there are some that continue to meet through the summer and work on electives or advancement during the summer.

24:23And that's awesome. That's not every pack. But I want these parents and these kids as they're getting there to get used to the fact that it this is a like every week or every other week depending on your troops cadence. This is a commitment and you it's a change from Cub Scouts. The meetings are longer and so that's what we're doing. We, our unit, we start and close the meeting with the troop and in the middle we break off as a patrol. We peel off our AOL's and we're going to go do patrol work by ourselves, working on, you know, the estimations elective or knife safety or something so that they, by the time we're ready to cross over, they're done. No, I love that.

25:04I love that. So, you know, usually we see. I know Kayla was like saying, oh wow, I'm like looking yeah, how are you going to do this by December and it I think we went through your entire schedule, so we know how you crossed over by December and a lot. Of people I'm also, I will say, I will message you Kayla on Facebook. If anybody else wants it, I'll say it. I'll, I'll, I'll send you our whole year schedule, like what we're doing every month to get these kids to December.

25:30I would love to have a full year Cub Scout, but it's hard because of rank camp and at different times. So yeah, I feel like full year, like I'm that's kind of like the hill I'll die on probably is that I think. I think. Everyone should have the opportunity and I get it in the in the summertime and we all need a break, right? You know, like I'm honestly, we do. It's like it feels like we need a break and especially you get through. I call it like the May may member.

25:56It's like May, December. It's like December but without all the cool gifts and stuff and all this without the festivities. It's just a, it's a trudge getting through May when you're a parent and I mean so many things going on and you just kind of need a break and you know, feels like after school you need a break. But if you have one, just one thing every month, right? Just one. I'm not saying do your whole pack. I'm saying just your AOL. You do not have to. I don't know if your pack is 12 kids or 120 kids. I'm saying bring out.

26:30If you're an AOL dead leader, you're 8:00-ish kids. If you're a cub master with a small pack, you're, I don't know, two to five AOL. How many ever you have just those We're not. I'm not trying to do you know, knife safety for bears. We most AOL. I'm focused on these AOL's during the summer. That sounds scary anyway, OK, you can get all those guys all together doing all different kinds of knife skills. Yeah. So I feel like that's like, very doable, right? It's very doable, especially if you could, honestly, if we could start partnering more with these troops. They have the skill set to do this stuff. They can come teach tonight.

27:07Safety, yeah. This doesn't have to be a stress for me, I could go ask them and they'll be so delighted. Right, I'm gonna sit in the back and drink my coffee and watch. And yeah, they would be so, so delighted. So we have 3 pack meetings during the summer and then back to school swing. I love that Alexander, because I feel like you could. Then they're probably, he's probably talking about the overall pack. You know, I love that idea. I feel like some really amazing opportunities to exist in the summer that you just may not have during the the other months.

27:35We're down to our last three minutes. Any other words of wisdom? Yeah. So come see us at Nam, man. Yeah, Woo. If you're gonna be at Nam, the two of us plus others, we're gonna be in the exhibitor hall. We're we have some new stuff that we've kind of keys on Cub chat live. They'll be rolling out at Nam. So come if you're there, come see us. I've got an endless supply of high fives for anybody at Nam. I don't know. Camera, we may be. Oh, I've got more than high fives. Because you know, Sidney and I will hook you up with a bottle of Cub Scout spirit.

28:13You got yours, Cub. Scout. And Marshall love what's going to be there. I mean, he's a draw all by himself. I mean, I'm excited about hanging out with Marshall. So we are going to definitely be having a lot of fun. And you're going to miss Sydney and Janet. She's on our come chat live. Kate, you saw her. Nilesh. I mean, these are the people you're going to. You're going to see us all. So it'll be fun. Next. So before I get to thanking everybody next week, so Daniel, who's also on the Cub Scout National Committee, is going to be talking about preparing your PAC budget.

28:51This man is an accountant. He just came out of tax season. If anybody not knows about preparing a PAC budget, he's the guy. Come with your hard questions, I'm telling you now. Yeah, he's got the template going. He's all over it, man. Daniel is the best. So it's going to be a great episode. I don't think we've done a PAC planning budget, come chat live and if we have it, it's not been, it's been a while. It's been a while. I'm so excited about him coming on and and being done with.

29:19Nam's national annual meeting. I'm so sorry. Thank you. Thank you for helping us not have an acronym here National annual meeting. Yes, go ahead. Jason, do you have I can? Say I do, I have one more thing. So to everybody who's here and everybody who's listening in the future, thank you so much for what you do because without you running the program at the unit level, this wouldn't be able to happen. Scouting wouldn't be reaching the youth that it is.

29:48It wouldn't be making the leaders of tomorrow. And so as taking off all my Scouting hats and just being the dad of my Cub Scout, thank you. Thank all. Thank every single one of you for the time, the treasure, and the talent that you put into making this program impactful for each and every single one of the youths in your units and the surrounding units. Because you may not realize it, but it's not just the kids in your unit that see the hard work and the dedication you put in. It's everybody.

30:15So thank you. Yes, I echo that, Jason, and I want to thank you for coming. Being on the show today, it's always such a pleasure. A lot of. Yeah. Thanks for having me. Yes, but I love that. Thank you. I'll echo Jason's comments. Thank you so much for everything you guys do. You are amazing. We talk about what it's always important to build a community, build a community in our units, build the community in our districts, our councils. I think this is one of my favorite communities is the come chat live community.

30:43You guys are rock stars. You guys are making all the difference for the youth that you serve and so and the families that you serve. So thank you for being amazing and you inspire us all the time. We're forever grateful for you. So have a fabulous, fabulous. I can't believe it since it's all over already. I know how to. Talk for another two hours about AOL, but we don't. Have that time in the day, have a conversation, but thank you so much. Have a fabulous weekend and we will see you next week for building a strong pack budget.

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