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Ep 84: Design Systems Interviewing w/ Chela

15 Aug 2025 · 47 min

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Davy with friend of the program, Chela Giraldo talk about their recent experiences looking for a new design systems, and the struggles with developing the "design system portfolio" that can tell our unique stories. Chela has a recent post about it, which you should check out on Design System Collective.

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