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Macklemore & Ed Sheeran

19 Sep 2026 · 1 hr 7 min

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Speaker 1:And five, four, two.

Speaker 2:What up, y'all?

Speaker 3:Welcome to Here's a Thing. I'm Kevin O'Shaughnessy. Welcome to another podcast episode.

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Speaker 4:Smash that Before we do that, church announcement. Angel, what you got going on?

Speaker 7:Nothing.

Speaker 8:I'm a black woman in the United States in the entertainment industry.

Speaker 7:And what is happening? Nothing.

Speaker 3:There you go. I've got Birmingham, England.

Speaker 4:Yeah.

Speaker 3:New show added.

Speaker 4:As we tape this, there's 82 tickets left. I'm just announcing right now as we speak, my third London show.

Speaker 9:Fourth.

Speaker 4:Fourth? Third.

Speaker 10:To London, Manchester.

Speaker 3:Well, I mean third specifically in London. Oh, you're adding another London. Adding a London.

Speaker 1:Oh, okay.

Speaker 5:London Lake.

Speaker 3:London Lake show. A lot of nation was like, Kevin, please. They're like.

Speaker 7:They said, please.

Speaker 4:Wow. They're banging down the doors for a third show.

Speaker 10:This is news to everybody, Angel.

Speaker 4:Yeah.

Speaker 3:They just called me as I was walking in. Amazing.

Speaker 7:This is good news.

Speaker 1:London.

Speaker 4:So we have Birmingham on Wednesday, London on Thursday, two Londons on Friday, Manchester on Saturday.

Speaker 10:Wow.

Speaker 3:Also... Amsterdam and Paris offers are in.

Speaker 1:Wow, we got a Euro run. Paris!

Speaker 4:Dates haven't been set yet. Dublin's on the table. They asked me for Berlin. I said, absolutely not. Took a massive L in Berlin and Brussels, Belgium. They're like, do you want to sell 700 tickets in Brussels? I was like, no, I'll eat Brussels sprouts.

Speaker 3:But no.

Speaker 10:With the balsamic.

Speaker 4:Still working on South Africa. They wanted me to do one show for 1900 seats. I said, that's a little bit much.

Speaker 7:You don't think you could do 1,900 in South Africa?

Speaker 10:I don't know where I could do 1,900 in South Africa.

Speaker 4:You can do it.

Speaker 3:I don't want to start like that. South Africa big.

Speaker 7:You can do it.

Speaker 3:Let's do one in Cape Town, one in Johor.

Speaker 11:And they don't get people to go down there. They'd be waiting for KevOnStage, man. That's what the streets are saying.

Speaker 3:So, yeah. Just sign the contract, man. Last time we didn't go to Paris because the bed bugs was over there eating them beds.

Speaker 1:And they're still there, man.

Speaker 3:They're still.

Speaker 1:All right.

Speaker 3:So, all that's available at KevOnStage.com.

Speaker 1:Let's hop in.

Speaker 4:Wow.

Speaker 1:The news of the week. News.

Speaker 3:Let's recap what happened.

Speaker 5:Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4:Macklemore joined Ed Sheeran on 12 dates of his loop tour, I think it was called. Yeah.

Speaker 1:Loop tour.

Speaker 4:Apparently the first of those two dates, Macklemore went out there, publicly spoke, and said free Palestine, among other things. After which Macklemore was informed that he was removed from the tour because the promoters was like, if you're going to get up there and say free Palestine... It's divisive. This is Macklemore's words, and I'm paraphrasing.

Speaker 7:For people that don't know, read.

Speaker 1:It, Angel.

Speaker 3:Read, read, read, read, read.

Speaker 8:Okay, this is from Macklemore's IG. I'm not sure how to start this, so I'm going to speak from the heart and share the truth. Ed Sheeran and his team have made the decision to remove me from the Loop Tour. But before I get into it, I want to say that that should be obvious. I want to say something that should be obvious. In this moment, I think it matters. I'm not a victim. Ed Sheeran is not a victim. Pink is not a victim. We have careers, money, opportunities, safety, and audiences around the world. Whatever consequence any of us face for what we say, we get to go home to our families. The victims are the Palestinian people, the men and women and children who have been killed, starved, displaced, and forced to live through unimaginable violence. More than 20,000 children have been killed in Gaza alone. People are being killed today, and people will be killed tomorrow. I want to make sure that as I tell this story, you don't lose sight of that.

Speaker 7:It is my friend.

Speaker 8:I've known him for 13 years. We've shared late night studio sessions in stages.

Speaker 7:And he has.

Speaker 8:This infectious magic about him that I've grown to love. I consider him a brother. And because of that, We've had some difficult conversations this past week. The type of talks rooted in love and respect for one another that's still in a place of fundamental disagreement. Nothing I'm writing here is out of spite or because I want to tear down his character. But as I told Ed multiple times on the phone, our friendship can't change my.

Speaker 7:Responsibility to tell the truth about what happened.

Speaker 8:Last night in the middle of all the media attention surrounding Pink and what I said at MetLife, Ed told me that Robert Kraft called him We were scheduled to play the Gillette Stadium later this month, which is owned by the Kraft Group. Ed told me that Kraft said I would not be allowed to perform in his stadium. Ed also told me that Kraft had rallied some of the other stadium owners and collectively they gave him an ultimatum. If Malcolm Moore stays on tour, you will not be allowed to play in our venues.

Speaker 7:It was insane. in a fucked up position. He knew it.

Speaker 8:His typical apolitical stance was being challenged in a way it never had been before. He told me that the words free Palestine and the image of the Palestinian flag were hurtful to a lot of people he spoke with. I told him that if those words were more offensive than the tens of thousands of Palestinian children being killed by Israel, then there was a fundamental disconnect between where those people stood and where I stood. But he couldn't get past his public facing. I don't take sides, and I get why people don't. Taking a side can cost you money, brand deals, sponsorship, festival, private shows, relationships, and access.

Speaker 8:I've lost a lot of things, but there's no neutral position between the oppressor and the oppressed. When one side has the bombs... And bottomless financial military support from America. Refusing to take a side does not leave you in the middle. What I said to MetLife, I've been saying on stages around the world for almost three years.

Speaker 7:So why is it an issue now?

Speaker 8:Because now I'm sharing a stage with one of the biggest artists in the world and in some of the biggest stadiums in America. At a certain level of exposure, Free Palestine becomes too much of a risk. If I kept doing shows saying Free Palestine would end, implicitly supporting it, The crowd's getting louder and showing undeniable support for Palestinian liberation. What artist might speak out next? The stage becomes resistance. Maybe that's why it's time to become... Maybe that's why this time it became so important to silence me.

Speaker 7:I'll stop right there. Y'all get it.

Speaker 10:I get it.

Speaker 3:In honor of that.

Speaker 11:So this was after two shows of Macklemore being on that tour.

Speaker 4:Yes.

Speaker 3:He said... One thing he said, I only needed two.

Speaker 1:Yeah.

Speaker 3:I only needed two of ten.

Speaker 7:He said, I didn't need ten shows from Ed. I needed two.

Speaker 3:It's your song, Angel.

Speaker 7:Spread it out on the country. Here we go back. This is a moment. Tonight and night. We'll fight till it's over. So we put our hands up like the ceiling can't hold us.

Speaker 5:Like the ceiling can't hold us.

Speaker 7:Here we go back.

Speaker 3:This is a moment.

Speaker 1:No, this is church. Praise him right where you are, Angel.

Speaker 4:Get it, Angel!

Speaker 5:Yeah!

Speaker 1:This is good. This is good. What you call it?

Speaker 4:Time out.

Speaker 1:High Rocks. High Rocks?

Speaker 3:No, that's Doodoo now.

Speaker 1:Get it, Angel.

Speaker 3:All right now.

Speaker 7:Titties and stomach will all come.

Speaker 4:Out on y'all.

Speaker 3:Take it easy now. It's going to be a different type of show. You're all over the place now.

Speaker 1:Play some, Angel. Yeah!

Speaker 4:Woo!

Speaker 3:What's the part you like, Angel? It's coming up.

Speaker 5:Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

Speaker 1:Here it goes.

Speaker 6:This is when the spirit hits them.

Speaker 1:I wish I had one of Josh's tambourines.

Speaker 5:Huh.

Speaker 1:Praise him, Angel.

Speaker 9:Yeah.

Speaker 7:I said we put our hands up.

Speaker 3:Here it comes.

Speaker 1:Devil can't hold us. Can't hold my praise.

Speaker 4:Ooh.

Speaker 1:Here it comes.

Speaker 7:I said we put our hands up.

Speaker 10:Here we go.

Speaker 1:Here we go. This is when we take it to glory.

Speaker 9:Nah, nah.

Speaker 7:Here we go.

Speaker 1:Hey. Whoa. Whoa.

Speaker 4:Whoa.

Speaker 9:All right.

Speaker 3:So after that, Macklemore was like, all right, I've been kicked off the tour. Apolitical, apolitical. Ed Sheeran, it is what it is. I'm not a victim.

Speaker 4:You know, People of Palestine, children getting killed are victims. I thought that would be it. But I thought it was interesting that he said me and Ed are friends. Ed comes back with his own statement. It was like, Macklemore is an artist I've respected. He has to be on the tour.

Speaker 3:I said, yes. He ain't saying we're friends.

Speaker 10:Apolitical, apolitical.

Speaker 3:Apolitical, apolitical. Shape of you.

Speaker 9:Okay?

Speaker 3:Then, one by.

Speaker 4:One, Everybody else on that tour was like, adios, I'm gone. Phineas, Billy Eilish's brother was supposed to join him in Latin America he said I'm cool if you ain't on Free Palestine you ain't gonna be with me Lucas Graham Lucas Graham.

Speaker 3:He got that, once I was seven years old.

Speaker 8:You were going to have to sing a song because he was booty J until then.

Speaker 3:You know that song though, right?

Speaker 10:Of course.

Speaker 1:Once I was seven years old.

Speaker 7:That sad song.

Speaker 3:Big white.

Speaker 7:Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:Lucas Graham got out of there.

Speaker 4:His backing band, his band for 10 years got out of there.

Speaker 7:They be going to be playing the spoons.

Speaker 4:And I think, Basically, it seemed like everybody who was on the show. I don't know if it was everybody, but it was like four different announcements. And somebody who already did the tour and was already off was like, just so y'all know, if I.

Speaker 1:Was on, I would have been off.

Speaker 7:I'm off the tour.

Speaker 3:I would have been off.

Speaker 4:Now, the thing that's interesting about this is Ed Sheeran is catching smoke, rightfully so.

Speaker 3:I can feel you. Robert Kraft is not catching enough smoke.

Speaker 7:Exactly.

Speaker 4:Robert Kraft, who, if memory serves me correct, was doing sexual activities down to that massage parlor not many moons ago.

Speaker 5:Oh!

Speaker 4:Full-on sex act billionaire down to that massage parlor and they wasn't rubbing.

Speaker 3:On that greasy old white back. They was rubbing on them stankin' balls.

Speaker 4:Yep. Caught up in all kind of explicit, illicit activities.

Speaker 8:So he's the one who's like, putting the ultimatum out there.

Speaker 3:And guess what?

Speaker 1:You want me to believe.

Speaker 4:This is why I know the NFL handed Colin Kaepernick that $ 80 million. You want me to believe Robert Kraft got together the other owners to get McLemore gone.

Speaker 9:Yeah.

Speaker 3:And you don't want me to believe. Y'all didn't say.

Speaker 4:Colin Kaepernick's not going to play for us.

Speaker 3:You don't think them owners told them general managers? Hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 10:Kanye West is selling tickets in Dallas as we speak.

Speaker 3:That's what I meant to say.

Speaker 7:Yeah, just try that.

Speaker 4:Robert Kraft said you won't perform at Gillette Stadium. Which he owned, which goes all the way back to the Michael movie, by the way. Robert Kraft bought that because he had a parking lot deal when that person went bankrupt.

Speaker 3:This is how old and white and rich these people are. Yeah, very old, white, and rich.

Speaker 1:And you want me to.

Speaker 4:You think if he just said, hey, nobody hosts this if Macklemore's not off the tour, and they didn't do that for Colin Kaepernick, they absolutely did.

Speaker 7:They absolutely did.

Speaker 3:So.

Speaker 4:The thing is, and this point somebody made that I didn't make on my own.

Speaker 3:People online made this point. Ed Sheeran was like, I made political. I stay out of it. I stay out of it. They're like, oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 4:Because when Russia was invading Ukraine, you had all kind of shows in support for Ukraine. Pictures with him with the Ukrainian flag, donating money.

Speaker 3:He spoke up for Theresa May, who is either for or against. I don't know. I don't know England stuff. I do have shows coming to England.

Speaker 10:We know that.

Speaker 4:I don't know if Theresa May is good or bad, but they put the articles together. So it was like, oh, you're political when you want to be. You're choosing an apolitical stance on this, which even if you were apolitical, kind of a cop-out, but you haven't proven to be. You just don't want to be on what you are perceived is the wrong capitalist side of this. So it's like you... You can't afford to be apolitical. No, not.

Speaker 7:You can't... Just period. You can't afford to be apolitical.

Speaker 3:By saying, oh, that don't really impact me, that is already a choice. That's privilege.

Speaker 8:Yeah, that's exactly what that is. It is privilege to say it doesn't impact you, and it does. Because if our money is going over there, the money that you paying taxes on, it does affect you.

Speaker 4:Yes.

Speaker 7:Because that's true enough. The money is being funneled right on over there. They took our.

Speaker 3:And I just paid my taxes yesterday. My God. They.

Speaker 5:Oh.

Speaker 4:They took probably seven thirds of my tax money and bought weapons of mass destruction. Yeah. They probably 700,000 bullets and two pieces of a missile.

Speaker 7:100%.

Speaker 4:And that stuff we can't control. And then Macklemore donated his money to a million dollars.

Speaker 8:See, I've always liked that white man and people, people were like, he's corny.

Speaker 3:I like his music.

Speaker 4:I've always liked Macklemore. One of my unpopular opinions that we shot in that room right there. was Macklemore was deserving of that Grammy nomination. The nom. Careful.

Speaker 1:The nom. The nom.

Speaker 4:Most people who hate Macklemore never listen to the heist. Macklemore is an old Seattle artist, so I listened to him because he was making music down in town.

Speaker 7:I like that Goodwill shopping cart one, too.

Speaker 3:Thrift shop.

Speaker 7:That's what it's called.

Speaker 3:See, the problem is that his singles are the ones that people hate.

Speaker 7:I love them. Give me commercial, commercial.

Speaker 3:You love thrift shop?

Speaker 7:Give me commercial, commercial.

Speaker 4:People are saying, Macklemore, we love you so much, we're playing... We're playing your music on mute. This is up your alley, Angel.

Speaker 7:That's not it.

Speaker 4:Ads?

Speaker 3:Oh, I'm in my wrong account.

Speaker 5:I said, ugh.

Speaker 7:I was like, Kevin, what happened?

Speaker 10:Is everything okay?

Speaker 7:I was like, that's not shopping cart.

Speaker 3:This up your alley?

Speaker 7:Let it get into it. This is not it.

Speaker 3:This is the beginning of it.

Speaker 7:I don't know that part.

Speaker 1:Thank you.

Speaker 9:Yeah!

Speaker 8:This is Up Your Alley! Some tags that I got $ 20 in my pocket.

Speaker 7:This is Up Your Alley! Hop a dollar, a 50-ball to hide them. This is fucking awesome! Yeah! This is workout music. This is step aerobics.

Speaker 3:This is Macklemore's problem. This song on Can You Hold It, people hate it. Oh, this is big!

Speaker 1:Step up, and one, and up, and back, and two, and one, and punch, punch, punch, punch, punch, punch. That one where they turn around?

Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, you gotta do it.

Speaker 4:Up, up.

Speaker 1:Turn around.

Speaker 3:I'll go with you. All right.

Speaker 1:We're going to do up before, down before. Let's go. Let's go. And one. Come on. And two.

Speaker 4:Ah!

Speaker 6:Next time, we're crossing over. So we're going to step up, over, up, down. Step up, over, up, down. Step up, over, up, down.

Speaker 3:Step up.

Speaker 10:Yeah!

Speaker 1:Let's cool it down, guys. I absolutely....

Speaker 7:I like the Macklemore. I like him.

Speaker 1:You are so flat. Now I like the Macklemore. I do. I like the Macklemore.

Speaker 7:Prior to the Free Palestine, everybody was like.

Speaker 1:He's corny. I like it.

Speaker 4:Listen, The Heist is an album that I like because he tells a.

Speaker 3:Lot of stories about his life. He was addicted to alcohol. He has a song about....

Speaker 4:How the bottle was like a church to him or something like that. But most people who hate him have only heard Thrift Shop and Can You Hold Us. Understandably, his singles were very commercial, very white, and him winning the Grammy over Kendrick made him be filled with disdain. That's more of a reflection of the Grammy committee. It ain't Macklemore's fault he won. They did too many white people.

Speaker 7:This is me.

Speaker 8:I don't want to hear about a bunch of depressing shit. That Eminem stuff, you're white. Let me hear about how great your life is. Let me hear about you popping tags with $ 20.

Speaker 3:In your pocket.

Speaker 7:I don't want to hear about your struggle.

Speaker 1:No, the fuck.

Speaker 7:Talk about the good stuff. Talk about the rainbows.

Speaker 3:He did same love. He did same love too with your girl.

Speaker 7:When everybody got married on the stage.

Speaker 3:Yeah, something Lambert or something.

Speaker 1:What's her name?

Speaker 4:Anyway, I hadn't thought about Macklemore in Mary Lambert. I hadn't thought about Macklemore in seven calendar years. I didn't know what Macklemore was up to.

Speaker 7:I didn't know he was still making music.

Speaker 3:I didn't know he was alive.

Speaker 8:I thought the Stealing Can't Hold Us held up that money and he didn't have to do nothing.

Speaker 1:I literally was like, Macklemore's on tour?

Speaker 5:He was on tour.

Speaker 10:Ed Sheeran?

Speaker 4:With Ed Sheeran. And the thing is, Ed Sheeran also donated $ 2 million. So Macklemore donated, first of all, let me pause. Two shows, his pay was $ 1 million.

Speaker 3:I said.

Speaker 10:Well, that's probably including merch and all that too, though.

Speaker 8:I would never be home. That sound right too. That's why his music should be fun.

Speaker 3:I thought he was poor.

Speaker 7:Well, he was at the thrift store, but that sounds more ironic, huh?

Speaker 3:Can't be. He can't be. His parents are Bill Haggerty and Julie Schott.

Speaker 7:That sounds like money.

Speaker 3:Who's that? Who are these people?

Speaker 7:They sound like money.

Speaker 3:Oh, he's a senator.

Speaker 5:Yeah.

Speaker 7:So he was a nepo baby. That's fine. Your child is a nepo baby.

Speaker 3:Absolutely he is.

Speaker 4:Yeah.

Speaker 3:What the? He's an ambassador to Japan?

Speaker 10:Yeah.

Speaker 7:Okay, so he doing good.

Speaker 1:What the hell going on with the Macklemore? What is Macklemore's real name?

Speaker 7:Something probably.

Speaker 3:Where's the personal life?

Speaker 7:Like Phineas or probably something like that.

Speaker 8:You know, they like them creature names, names from books.

Speaker 7:Hermione. I would love to name my daughter Hermione.

Speaker 4:Hermione, that's our girl from, that's Benjamin Hammond Haggerty.

Speaker 3:That boy's name is Benjamin Hammond Haggerty.

Speaker 7:Yeah, Macklemore was better.

Speaker 1:Benjamin Hammond.

Speaker 3:Hey, Ben Haggerty's in town.

Speaker 1:How the hell are you?

Speaker 7:It doesn't work with I'm going to pop some tags.

Speaker 1:Look what the wind blew in.

Speaker 3:Look what the wind blew in. Old Ben Haggerty's in town.

Speaker 7:He could go by Benjamin. I would take that.

Speaker 3:Benny Hags.

Speaker 11:But to be clear, Ed Sheeran donated to aid in the region. He didn't donate specifically to the Palestinian people.

Speaker 7:What does that even mean?

Speaker 8:Like humanitarian efforts or something like that.

Speaker 3:Aid in the region?

Speaker 7:And it wasn't just him. It was him and Kraft that donated.

Speaker 10:Well, he asked Kraft. I don't know if Kraft showed up for.

Speaker 3:Kraft said he's doing the two million.

Speaker 4:Yeah. But also, when you got as much money as Kraft, two million is like, hey, man, do you want this box of.

Speaker 8:And if you're giving it to the enemy, then that doesn't... That's no good.

Speaker 3:Well, he... I didn't know....

Speaker 4:I didn't know it was aid in the region. Let's see, what is that word? This nigga.

Speaker 3:Robert Kraft's net worth is $ 15. 2 billion. I mean, the man owns the stadium.

Speaker 7:I am so close.

Speaker 10:Owns the stadium, Kevin.

Speaker 8:I am $ 14, 900, 999, 999, 999 away from having the same amount of money as he has.

Speaker 7:He bought the Patriots in 1994 for $ 172 million.

Speaker 3:The Patriots are now valued at $ 9 billion.

Speaker 7:All this is imaginary. That's what these numbers.

Speaker 3:That's like gazillion, gazillion in the planet Gorgostan.

Speaker 8:Yeah, I'm about to buy this building that we in for 255 flippity flops.

Speaker 1:Seriously.

Speaker 7:What are we even talking about? If you ain't got it in cash, I don't believe you.

Speaker 3:Nobody got it in cash.

Speaker 7:No, it ain't real. How much money is out here printed?

Speaker 3:Not enough.

Speaker 7:We don't know how much Brendan Money's in the world. I mean, in the U.S.

Speaker 3:Circulating?

Speaker 1:Yeah.

Speaker 4:No.

Speaker 7:Give it all to me.

Speaker 3:I know Delta got about 600 planes. Remember that?

Speaker 4:When y'all thought I was a freaking nerd? When he was like, I wonder how many planes Delta has. I was like, it's around 640. You were like, what the hell's wrong with you? Why would you even know that question that I just asked out of nowhere?

Speaker 8:You said when I thought you were a freak. I still, to today, in this moment, think you're a freaking nerd.

Speaker 1:Angel! This how you see me?

Speaker 4:Actually, Delta has currently around 642 planes in flight.

Speaker 7:Yes, but you would also still have all your hair grown in.

Speaker 8:Hairline doing whatever the hell it wants to, because that's the good thing about a nerd.

Speaker 7:They don't give a shit.

Speaker 3:We don't.

Speaker 7:Their hairline will be like, they're like, but I can tell you.

Speaker 3:Let me tell you what. Left to my own devices, you leave me alone with that history channel.

Speaker 4:I will watch six World War II documentaries, and then I'll switch over and watch The Titans That Built America. I watched them episodes of Andrew Carnegie versus Rockefeller, who was building the oil, and then Carnegie was over steel. Wait a minute, are you saying Carnegie?

Speaker 3:You're saying Carnegie. No, it's pronounced Carnegie.

Speaker 7:It's not. It's pronounced Carnegie.

Speaker 3:It's Carnegie.

Speaker 4:I don't care what they say. I'm telling you, I was on the History Channel. It's Andrew Carnegie. I know you guys don't watch the History Channel like me.

Speaker 3:It's not Carnegie. It's Carnegie.

Speaker 8:No, just like Denzel Washington is Denzel.

Speaker 3:No, we just don't listen to him.

Speaker 7:Right, and we're not going to listen to the History Channel either.

Speaker 1:We don't.

Speaker 8:Same with Marriott, with the crazy-ass people. If you don't marry out your way up out of this.

Speaker 3:Y'all don't know y'all selves.

Speaker 1:Marriott.

Speaker 8:This is so dumb. Y'all gonna bury it. We ain't on a sweet, sweet chariot. We're in a Marriott.

Speaker 7:Anyways, nerd.

Speaker 1:Yes.

Speaker 4:Yeah, so apparently the Irish, one of these Irish radio stations pulled all Ed Sheeran's music. The thing that I thought about to me that was most interesting about this, I don't know Ed Sheeran personally, but I imagine that When Macklemore was pulled off that tour, Ed Sheeran could not have imagined the backlash that would have came back towards him.

Speaker 10:No, because he didn't say anything for two days.

Speaker 5:I know.

Speaker 4:I think he was... Somebody in his team was probably like, just don't say nothing, Ed. Just don't say nothing. And I don't think he thought the groundswell would keep going. Macklemore did a masterful job of redirecting the attention back to the issues.

Speaker 3:Also, while we're on this, Free Palestine, Free Sudan... Congo and Sudan don't get nearly as much.

Speaker 7:They don't get nothing.

Speaker 3:Nearly as much. That's also on us.

Speaker 4:You know, the people, uh, that, that part of Africa doesn't get the same notoriety. Um, um, as a Palestinian Palestinians get, but this isn't a competition. I'm just want to include Congo and Sudan. Um, But I can imagine Ed Sheeran was like, this is not going away.

Speaker 3:I'm the bad guy?

Speaker 4:The person who doesn't get enough heat, and I just want to say it again, Robert Kraft.

Speaker 3:He's the one who started this because it doesn't seem like Ed Sheeran had a problem with Macklemore before. Saying that. Because you know Macklemore. Like, this is a new Macklemore.

Speaker 4:That same love song, he released that when it wasn't nearly as popular to have that stance as it is now.

Speaker 1:Right?

Speaker 4:He's using his whiteness for good. Also, if I'm him, I'm like, why y'all keep saying this about my music? Like, man, we gonna turn you up and down. His album, The Heist, is back in the iTunes top 10.

Speaker 7:Yeah.

Speaker 4:But anyway, I don't think Ed Sheeran imagined, I don't think he could have imagined that He's the one that people are like.

Speaker 8:Because in his mind, he didn't kick Ed off the tour.

Speaker 7:In his mind, he's like, I have a tour.

Speaker 8:And if they're putting stipulations on me, I still need to tour. Because his whole thing was, I can't cancel my tour dates because there are people who I am paying.

Speaker 7:People who depended on me touring.

Speaker 3:As a person who's in that position, much smaller footprint.

Speaker 10:Very small.

Speaker 1:But.

Speaker 3:I have people, I understand that. What I think Ed Sheeran.

Speaker 4:Is missing, this is my thought, because people are like, you need to cancel the tour and pay them people out your pocket.

Speaker 3:I don't go into people's pockets like that.

Speaker 4:But I think what Ed Sheeran is missing, and I don't know this to be true, but my guess is if Ed Sheeran told Robert Kraft, if Macklemore's out, I'm out, Robert Kraft and them would have been like, fine, we'll be quiet.

Speaker 3:Because capitalism is capitalism.

Speaker 7:Money is money.

Speaker 4:If we're going to lose all that now, then you get to the legalese and all that stuff. But I think Ed Sheeran doesn't realize his voice is much bigger than Macklemore's.

Speaker 3:They can kick Macklemore off.

Speaker 4:If they don't think Ed Sheeran is going to back him up, then they're going.

Speaker 3:To keep going.

Speaker 4:So same thing with Colin Kaepernick. If there was one black owner, I believe, if Angel owned a team.

Speaker 3:San Diego.

Speaker 4:Artists from the San Diego Chargers. Angel's like, absolutely not. Colin Kaepernick, general manager, sign him.

Speaker 3:It needs all 32 people.

Speaker 4:If one of them owners was like, no, I'm not going with y'all, but since there ain't no black owners and the NFL wants to keep it that way, nobody took a chance on him. But I think Ed could have been like, no, if you do this and I cancel, then I think Robert Kraft would have been like, okay, then.

Speaker 7:He don't even have to say and I cancel. He's going to be on that stage.

Speaker 3:You just said....

Speaker 4:My question is, and I ain't seeing the contract, my question is what grounds somehow there has to be a morality clause that they have to say that Macklemore broke.

Speaker 3:Right?

Speaker 4:What they try and often say is saying free Palestine is in effect anti-Semitic.

Speaker 5:Right?

Speaker 4:Right. I still don't understand how saying free Palestine is automatically considered anti-Semitic.

Speaker 7:What do you mean you don't get it?

Speaker 4:It's not.

Speaker 3:I don't even understand the.

Speaker 8:The premise is Black Lives Matter. It's the same exact premise. It's the same. They're saying that you deciding to highlight the oppressed, you are doing an erasure.

Speaker 3:Of the rest of the people. Of the rest of the people.

Speaker 5:So.

Speaker 3:It's Black Lives Matter, All Lives Matter.

Speaker 10:Yes.

Speaker 3:That's what they're saying.

Speaker 8:Yes, they're saying if you say... Okay, got you.

Speaker 7:If you say free Palestine, what did they say? From the river to the sea?

Speaker 3:Yes.

Speaker 7:Let Palestine be free?

Speaker 8:So you mean you want us to be dead and gone?

Speaker 3:Right. And they're like, no.

Speaker 7:Nobody said that.

Speaker 3:We are getting killed.

Speaker 4:I remember when I was talking to my kids about this, when this conflict more recently erupted.

Speaker 3:A few years ago now.

Speaker 10:October 2024 or 3?

Speaker 7:Or 5? No, 4. 4, 4, 4. You're right. It's 4.

Speaker 3:You want to double check each other?

Speaker 8:Yeah, we're on our way to the second, I think, calendar year. Yeah, that's what it feels like.

Speaker 7:2023.

Speaker 4:Three?

Speaker 3:I think so. October 6th.

Speaker 7:Oh, my God. We're about to complete our third calendar year?

Speaker 3:Because I was like, I think Isaiah was still in high school at the time.

Speaker 4:Dang.

Speaker 3:And I asked Isaiah what he thought about this. And Isaiah said, I don't know.

Speaker 4:Like, I'm doing my research and understanding, but one side, and I've said this on the podcast before. I'm old. Let me say my stuff more than once. He said one side controlled the Wi-Fi for the other side, and they turned off the Wi-Fi. If somebody has the power to turn off the other people's Wi-Fi, I feel like they probably are the ones who.

Speaker 7:Are losing this battle.

Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4:Right.

Speaker 3:And the problem is.

Speaker 4:People are led by money. I don't know how much money Ed Sheeran has, but I can imagine 10 concert dates isn't going to materially change his life. I do agree with having, I do agree with the like, I got these crews, them crews is hundreds of people, right? Hundreds of people are depending on Ed Sheeran. Ed Sheeran's concert for how they pay their bills but I do agree that Ed Sheeran probably underestimated how much power he had in this situation I feel like he was like Macklemore is on this tour yeah I doubt they'd be like then you're out and we're just gonna cancel it and even if.

Speaker 8:They did I don't think he realized what it was worth being on the right side of history.

Speaker 4:I think, I wish everybody could see that tag video I did when I thought this black dude, the white dude was taking advantage of black people and they told me that I was getting a brand for $ 180, 000 and they pranked me. And when I realized it was a prank, I was like, so that $ 180, 000, that's not real?

Speaker 3:But I still was like, I won't do this.

Speaker 4:When the NFL, when I was boycotting the NFL and they offered me a considerable amount of money to do that brand deal.

Speaker 3:And I was like, nope.

Speaker 4:Had me shave my face and said, you won't get razor bumps. I made that video before the razor bumps came. I sent them the video and they said, just post it. I said, but I got razor bumps. They were like, but you don't have it in the video.

Speaker 3:We'll still pay you. I was like, nah.

Speaker 4:Because there's black men in America who are going to get razor bumps and be like, but Kev said. And it's one thing if it didn't happen and you get it. It's another thing if it happened to me.

Speaker 7:And it happened to you.

Speaker 4:And then with the church people. as a person who you know, I'd be willing to perform in them churches. If them churches are like, okay, we're not hosting you because of your stance on gay people, and it considerably hurts my pockets, I'd rather lose that than whoop-de-doo.

Speaker 7:We'll be performing in a park.

Speaker 3:And then I'm cussing at the comedy club. So y'all don't want me?

Speaker 1:F this, F that, tonight at the Kansas City Improv.

Speaker 4:But that was a risk I was willing to take for what I stood in. My thing is, you gotta be able to sleep with yourself. And history's not going to be kind to people who was like.

Speaker 3:Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 4:I just didn't really think about it. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, you have any other thoughts before we move on?

Speaker 8:I'm glad also that Macklemore made it known that he is neither the victim nor the hero.

Speaker 3:I agree.

Speaker 8:Because I do think we get caught up in what celebrities do or don't do as if they are superheroes.

Speaker 3:Yes.

Speaker 8:Well, I think we can all say we're proud that he took a stance that a lot of people will never actually have to be met with.

Speaker 7:You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 8:There are a lot of people who are free Palestine all day, but it doesn't even conflict with their professional life.

Speaker 7:Nobody is watching for what they say out of their mouth.

Speaker 3:For sure.

Speaker 8:But I'm glad he didn't get caught up in the sauce- and be like, you see what I've done?

Speaker 3:Yes.

Speaker 7:Okay, you did make a sacrifice.

Speaker 3:You've done a good job re-centering the focus to the thing that matters.

Speaker 7:Yes, because at the end of the day, the babies are still dying.

Speaker 3:At the end of the day, the babies are still dying.

Speaker 8:He might not have a concert, but them kids are still out here in these streets getting bombed.

Speaker 3:Absolutely.

Speaker 4:He donated $ 1 million, which was his pay from two shows. By getting kicked off that tour with 10 shows remaining, Macklemore lost $ 5 million, at least.

Speaker 3:That's putting your money where your mouth is.

Speaker 4:$ 5 million is a lot of cash to not be.

Speaker 10:Ed's probably clearing like 20 gross a night then.

Speaker 4:First of all, we need to be making music. This is what I've learned. What we need is an Unruly Cousins album.

Speaker 8:I'm about to throw a tater tot at your head. I'm going to throw a tater tot.

Speaker 7:Okay? I'm throwing a tater tot. It's coming.

Speaker 1:It's coming.

Speaker 5:Oh, shoot.

Speaker 7:I hit the mic. We throw it away so we don't get roaches.

Speaker 3:Patty Crew said, Kevin, I swear to you.

Speaker 1:Oh, I didn't expect that to happen.

Speaker 7:I almost died. I almost died trying to get it.

Speaker 5:Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:Miss Rachel threw that million in there, too.

Speaker 3:She got it, though.

Speaker 1:Yo, Miss Rachel bred it up. Oh, yeah. Of course.

Speaker 3:I ain't up to date on her stuff.

Speaker 4:I know she started on TikTok and YouTube.

Speaker 3:Does she have something bigger than that?

Speaker 7:I think that woman's still on the tube, but she got toys and stuff.

Speaker 3:Oh, she got toys?

Speaker 1:Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4:I don't have no little babies around. So I know, like, Micaiah's not on Miss Rachel no more. She's on, like, mostly Roblox.

Speaker 8:My godbaby Brave, she love some Miss Rachel.

Speaker 7:She got a little Miss Rachel plushie.

Speaker 3:Oh, I didn't know she was. She's in the merch business.

Speaker 1:Yes.

Speaker 3:I've seen them videos where they play the kids that's crying.

Speaker 7:Oh, they said she on Netflix now, too.

Speaker 4:Oh, well.

Speaker 3:Hey, she's caked up. Hold on. This is a woman that says she's caked up. Oh, she got a bunch of blue.

Speaker 10:More like bread.

Speaker 3:No, that ain't what she talking to.

Speaker 7:She talking about her butt.

Speaker 8:But why every time Miss Rachel take a stance, they use the picture where she looks like she's tired.

Speaker 7:They don't use her like, hi, kids. She looks like this.

Speaker 8:Look at the, anytime she's like, Ed Sheeran, I'm disappointed in you.

Speaker 7:And she's.

Speaker 1:Oh, Miss Rachel only 43. 43.

Speaker 10:She's right up there with you guys.

Speaker 3:She up here with us.

Speaker 4:Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:Oh, she married to Aaron O'Connor.

Speaker 3:Her husband looked like Doogie Howser.

Speaker 1:Oh, she married Doogie.

Speaker 3:That nigga that.

Speaker 1:But the Doogie Howser gay.

Speaker 3:He looked like an evil Doogie Howser. He is gay.

Speaker 1:Oh, look at that.

Speaker 3:They don't know about Doogie, do they? Them kids. Don't they like evil Doogie Howser?

Speaker 7:He got so much room for a lace front.

Speaker 8:Like, he could get a good lace front installed because he has so much forehead to play with.

Speaker 7:That's important.

Speaker 6:All right.

Speaker 1:But look at her.

Speaker 3:She 47.

Speaker 7:Or is that her husband?

Speaker 3:That's her husband.

Speaker 1:But look at her.

Speaker 8:She be looking tired when she be talking about.

Speaker 7:See, all these are her great pictures. They don't use none of those when she mad about.

Speaker 1:Look at her blonde.

Speaker 3:That's freaky.

Speaker 8:Oh, she looks cute blonde. Yeah, these are all good pictures. Put a Miss Rachel Free Palestine. Or Miss Rachel, what's that other thing she did?

Speaker 3:She did the black. This is the picture I always see.

Speaker 5:No.

Speaker 7:I'll find the one.

Speaker 3:Oh, there it is. Is that it?

Speaker 7:No, she don't got on that. I'll show it to you. She always look like this. No, it's terrible. I'll find it.

Speaker 1:Watch.

Speaker 7:And you're going to be like, oh, look, it'd be looking something like that. I'll be like, y'all didn't give her a chance.

Speaker 1:To give you a better photo.

Speaker 4:And Miss Rachel be standing 10 toes in what she be living. She be lobbying for the kids all across the world.

Speaker 7:She said, under these overalls, I'm packing that thing. So you want to test me?

Speaker 3:My God.

Speaker 7:You want to test me? I'll let that thing sing, okay? On all you hoes. And I love that for her. Listen, love it.

Speaker 1:Love it.

Speaker 3:All right, moving on.

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Speaker 4:Jasmine Crockett, Was in hot water this week because her and what was his name? Benton Jones went to the Chris Brown concert and they gave Chris Brown a congressional award. Correct me if I'm using the incorrect terms. Congressional award and immediately.

Speaker 3:Were met with blowback.

Speaker 4:And Chris Brown responded and said, funny thing is, y'all came to me with this, not the other way around. I was minding my own damn business. My show's in Dallas.

Speaker 7:Did you say damn?

Speaker 3:Yeah. I'm just reading. He said it.

Speaker 10:It's two episodes in a row now.

Speaker 3:Jesus. Potty mouth.

Speaker 10:I'm reading.

Speaker 3:I have to read.

Speaker 7:Potty mouth.

Speaker 3:I'm reading. I'm just reading.

Speaker 2:Sorry.

Speaker 7:I didn't know we were in the sewer.

Speaker 1:Go ahead.

Speaker 3:I was minding my own damn business.

Speaker 1:Oh!

Speaker 3:My shows in Dallas were already sold out.

Speaker 4:I ain't asked to be honored because I knew some stuff like this would happen.

Speaker 3:I can't say that.

Speaker 4:And Andrew Jones immediately started dancing and apologized because he didn't want to lose voters and support. I have a great idea. How about y'all leave me alone and let me focus on the money. I'm sorry. Focus on the fans that spent their money to actually see and support me.

Speaker 3:You know what, Angel? Honestly, never thought I'd say this. I agree with Chris Brown.

Speaker 5:Leave?

Speaker 3:Chris Brown has not changed. He's not apologizing. He's not saying, hey, I learned my lesson.

Speaker 10:He's been on tour for three years.

Speaker 3:Chris Brown has been doing the same thing For a long time.

Speaker 4:Why would y'all offer me an award, come give it to me, and then you don't like the bloke?

Speaker 3:Is this a surprise to.

Speaker 4:You that giving me, if I'm Chris Brown, giving me this award has resulted in pushback?

Speaker 10:And Jasmine Crockett, you know better.

Speaker 1:How did you.

Speaker 4:Now listen, as a politician, your job is to... understand the mind of every... She lost, huh?

Speaker 7:She's a public citizen.

Speaker 3:Yeah, but she's a politician. She might not be in office.

Speaker 7:That's her career path.

Speaker 4:She's currently unemployed. I think she got redistricted out and then she went for senator and Tallarico beat her in the primary, if I'm not mistaken. But Jasmine Crockett, smart enough to know, and Vinton Jones. This isn't like a... Oh, she's not out.

Speaker 3:Of office yet. Oh, she's still in office. Oh, okay.

Speaker 4:She was gerrymandered out, and she went for Senator. But currently, she's still in.

Speaker 3:But my point is, you cannot be... This isn't like, oh my gosh, the tightest turn for Chris Brown.

Speaker 4:Y'all remember when we did our Here's the Thing show in Toronto, and we're like, how y'all feel about Drake?

Speaker 3:And they were like, ah, boo. We were like, this was prior to the Kendrick thing.

Speaker 9:Yes.

Speaker 4:We were like, oh, wow. In Toronto, they was like, nah, we ain't really rocking with Drake. That was a surprise to us.

Speaker 3:Right. You spent that whole time looking for that picture.

Speaker 1:Miss Rachel?

Speaker 3:Oh, she does look tired.

Speaker 10:Yes.

Speaker 7:She's tired of it.

Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, she is. Sorry, I had to find it.

Speaker 7:She's like, I'm tired of it. Freak Palestine.

Speaker 1:Yes.

Speaker 7:I can't figure out what happened with Nolan. Okay, now come on.

Speaker 3:So why did y'all do that?

Speaker 4:What did y'all think was going to happen by giving Chris a congressional award?

Speaker 1:I'm saying if.

Speaker 4:I'm Jasmine Crockett, if you're Jasmine Crockett or Vicki Jones, I don't know much about Vicki Jones.

Speaker 3:Jasmine or Vicki Jones?

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Speaker 3:Of course.

Speaker 10:You got everybody over there, man.

Speaker 7:We got all the ones.

Speaker 8:I don't know why we thought this was worthy of a congressional medal.

Speaker 7:Like, why?

Speaker 8:Regardless if you are a person that still patronizes this man, goes to his concerts.

Speaker 3:Because there'd be a lot of black women in there.

Speaker 7:It'd be tons.

Speaker 1:It'd be a lot.

Speaker 7:But why... Is Chris Brown from Dallas?

Speaker 3:No, he's from Virginia, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 8:So there's like a lot of things that don't make sense to me in this.

Speaker 4:She wanted to speak to them black women in the concert.

Speaker 1:And men.

Speaker 7:That's not, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 8:None of them are there to hear any political local news.

Speaker 3:Ha ha!

Speaker 7:No local. We are looking to change the bus routes here in Dallas. They're not looking for local news.

Speaker 8:They are looking to escape your local news, okay? I don't understand the logic behind this. And to Chris's point, it's like, wow, a lot of stuff he brings on himself.

Speaker 7:This is one of those times.

Speaker 3:Where he did not. No.

Speaker 7:This is one of those times. There are several times that I'll be.

Speaker 8:Like, well, Negro, what did you expect to happen if you do this or that.

Speaker 1:Or the other?

Speaker 3:The fight case recently, ain't it?

Speaker 5:Yeah.

Speaker 7:But this is the one where it's just like.

Speaker 3:He was not.

Speaker 7:He's like, I've been on this tour.

Speaker 4:He just pled guilty in July for the 2023 incident.

Speaker 3:Right. That's what it was.

Speaker 4:Yeah.

Speaker 7:So these are things that you're like, okay, this has been brought on by you.

Speaker 5:Yes.

Speaker 7:So you get heat from that.

Speaker 9:For sure.

Speaker 7:That's on you.

Speaker 3:For sure.

Speaker 7:This is one of those things. He's like, why am I even in this?

Speaker 4:Yes. Chris Brown has a legal issues Wikipedia page solo.

Speaker 8:He's had this one when people are just like, all y'all bring up is Rihanna. No, I don't even like to bring up Rihanna.

Speaker 4:Rihanna 2009, 2012 Drake scuffle. This is his legal Wikipedia page. 2013 Frank Ocean altercation. 2013 hit and run. 2013 Washington, D.C. assault and probation violation. 2016 Mike G. assault case. 2016 false gun threat allegation and defamation lawsuit. 2017 Carucci restraining order. 2018 photographer assault case. 2021 housekeeper disfigurement and dog mauling attack. 2022 dismiss rape allegation and defamation lawsuit.

Speaker 3:2025 nightclub assault case.

Speaker 8:Listen, that's why when people are like, yeah, you all keep bringing up old stuff. That doesn't feel too old.

Speaker 3:How old is old? Because you said 2025, y'all. 2025 was the most recent.

Speaker 4:Yeah.

Speaker 3:From 2029 to 2025. Also, I have a Wikipedia page now, Angel.

Speaker 7:You should have been in that one.

Speaker 3:I should have been.

Speaker 4:I'm one of the losers. You want to talk about loser nerd. Let me put my glasses on. I'm one of the few loser nerds who donates to Wikipedia sometimes because I don't want it to go away. Because they're like, man, right now, 275, Wikipedia can't be sold. I'll be like, you know what, y'all? Let me get my little 275. I give the little 275. Because I use Wikipedia every day. Yeah. I be looking up stuff. Sorry, I'm a nerd, guys. They yelling at me. Kevin, I donate to Wikipedia.

Speaker 7:Yes, very nice.

Speaker 3:Just 275 or 185.

Speaker 1:It's always a little odd number.

Speaker 3:A little 117.

Speaker 4:You know what?

Speaker 7:You do what you want to with your money.

Speaker 1:312? It ain't crazy. It's less than five.

Speaker 5:Um.

Speaker 4:Thank you, Oreal E. There's some people who donate to them. There we go. Young D1, he donates to him thank you thank you not dweeb but yeah i think um leave that man.

Speaker 8:Alone i just i really i do want to be like sarah why if you were trying to take advantage of all those people that were coming then go ahead buy a ticket Stand outside with a voter's registration tape.

Speaker 3:QR code. QR code.

Speaker 9:Yeah.

Speaker 7:Do that. Do that. But, like, he's from the great state of Virginia.

Speaker 8:That's the only place that I can imagine them giving him any award just because he's a famous person from that place.

Speaker 7:You're in Dallas.

Speaker 4:Yes.

Speaker 7:He's stopping through.

Speaker 1:He leaving. He's leaving.

Speaker 3:And that boy been on tour for some years.

Speaker 4:Uh-huh.

Speaker 7:He got, listen, he got paid for all that legal stuff.

Speaker 3:Yeah, he did that. $ 90, 000 in South Africa.

Speaker 5:Yeah.

Speaker 7:Yeah, he got to pay for all that stuff, all them legal fees and whatnot.

Speaker 3:All them legal fees. All right, moving on. Exclusive TMZ.

Speaker 4:Brian McKnight's ex-wife, Julie, says he can't pin his damaged reputation on her as she fights his defamation lawsuit. Julie claims Brian had already hurt his own image with public comments about his children, including calling them products of sin and evil. She's also countersuing accusing Brian of violating the confidentiality agreement in the 2014 divorce settlement.

Speaker 3:Brian the McKnight.

Speaker 7:Fuck him.

Speaker 3:Literally.

Speaker 1:Yeah. Literally.

Speaker 3:That lady didn't even open.

Speaker 4:Everything we don't like about you, I can point to you talking.

Speaker 7:Come on.

Speaker 4:Your son, even your son's response is to stuff you said. Your son's actually... Brian McKnight Jr. was always in response to what Brian said. Yeah. Changing your birth name... To Brian Kowan or whatever. He literally changed his name to something Hawaiian. Brian Kanoa Makoa. Kanoa Makoa McKnight Sr. Changed his name so that his new baby with the Hawaiian lady is his actual junior.

Speaker 1:And his.

Speaker 3:Son is no longer Brian McKnight Jr.

Speaker 8:Which is just some of the most diabolical stuff I have ever heard somebody ever do. That man is so despicable. And worse than how he's treated his ex-wife and his children, what makes it worse is that fucking coochie song he made.

Speaker 3:Oh, my God. Let me show you how your coochie works. Did you know that it could swerve?

Speaker 8:That is where he's the most diabolical. I can't even find the coochie song because it's disgusting.

Speaker 3:I remember I had just moved to L.A. when he did this.

Speaker 7:You know the other day.

Speaker 1:If you're ready to learn. This is what I say. Let me Pussy words. Disgusting.

Speaker 7:Go to hell.

Speaker 3:You know what it sounds like? He's saying, give it to me.

Speaker 1:Give it to me. You don't know what to do with that cause you get it to you. You don't know how it works.

Speaker 7:It sounds like he got his own. Let me show you how you could trip. Just push your lips back.

Speaker 3:Push your lips back.

Speaker 1:Pull it up. Ring the doorbell. Let me show you.

Speaker 7:It can't squirt.

Speaker 3:You didn't even know it could squirt, did you?

Speaker 7:He's like, if I do this chord change on these hoes, this key change, then.

Speaker 4:His voice with the words is incongruent.

Speaker 8:None of it is good. If the Ying Yang twins ain't screaming about it, it don't work.

Speaker 1:They whispered it.

Speaker 4:The Ying Yang twins had the decency to whisper.

Speaker 3:Hey, little mama, let me show you. They was whispering because they know they was talking crazy.

Speaker 4:This nigga Brian McKnight was singing full voice.

Speaker 2:I'm going to show you how to whisper. Sometimes you fall out of your twine.

Speaker 4:Y'all know I got a lisp. I try to say yin-yang twins. I say yin-yang tens.

Speaker 1:You know I'm lisp. That tongue be in there.

Speaker 7:That tongue be in there.

Speaker 1:You know I'm lispy lisperson.

Speaker 4:Also, whoever decided that the word lisp It's for people with a list that's diabolical.

Speaker 5:Yeah.

Speaker 3:You know we can't get that S and that P together.

Speaker 7:They said, let's see what happens.

Speaker 1:Let's see.

Speaker 3:That word could have been anything. You know our tongue go crazy on the L and the S and P?

Speaker 7:That's like dyslexia. Why you going to put all them letters?

Speaker 1:That's crazy.

Speaker 7:You going to put a Y?

Speaker 4:A Y and an X plus an E? You know we got our scrabble and scrabble sin?

Speaker 1:Yeah. Dyslexia. Call it scrabble. Put different letters.

Speaker 3:That word should have been a, you know, like that shit.

Speaker 4:Yeah.

Speaker 7:That's what it should have been.

Speaker 1:What the hell is wrong with you, man? What are you even saying?

Speaker 9:I don't know.

Speaker 7:You got me. What are you even saying?

Speaker 1:How did you even say that?

Speaker 7:That's what it feels like it should be. You got me chicken minis.

Speaker 1:I got you chicken minis.

Speaker 7:That's what it is. That's what it is.

Speaker 3:That angel, man.

Speaker 4:I brought Angel and Josh and myself Chick-fil-A this morning.

Speaker 3:Angel said, you my friend.

Speaker 1:You my friend. You brought me Chick-fil-A.

Speaker 7:He got me a Starbucks one day.

Speaker 1:We was shooting that show. We was shooting our sauce on the internet and I ordered a Starbucks for me.

Speaker 4:I didn't get Tony nothing because he don't like nothing. But I got Angel her drink and I know her order.

Speaker 3:Dragon fruit refresher. No fruit inclusion.

Speaker 4:Boy, when I gave her that drink, you would have thought I gave her a million dollars.

Speaker 7:I hopped up and down.

Speaker 1:I said, you got me a drink? You got me a drink?

Speaker 7:Oh, my God. Because I didn't know how I was going to make.

Speaker 1:It through the day. Let me tell you what I learned.

Speaker 4:Little things like preemptively getting your castmates a drink and remembering their order.

Speaker 1:People don't forget.

Speaker 3:I used to get the cast on Churchy, me, Jasmine, Mark, and Tahir.

Speaker 4:After lunch, I would get us all drinks. And I wrote their drinks down in my notes so I don't have to ask them every time.

Speaker 3:You know, boy, them people, a cup of coffee go a long way.

Speaker 8:No, see, the only thing about y'all, y'all switch up y'all shit because y'all be skinny sometimes.

Speaker 7:Y'all be some skinny hoes.

Speaker 3:Let me tell you what, I am never skinny no more.

Speaker 10:Whatever.

Speaker 7:You'd be like, I'm not on that. Josh, he switched to a Cortado.

Speaker 3:Josh, he switches all the time on Cortado. Listen, it was matcha.

Speaker 4:Cortado with light sugar.

Speaker 7:It was tea another time.

Speaker 10:I thought you were married.

Speaker 1:It's over with. I know, man.

Speaker 10:I went to Europe. I started having Cortados as a married man. That's just my drink now, man.

Speaker 3:Oh, it's not a healthy thing.

Speaker 1:No, it's just.

Speaker 3:Oh, I thought it was a healthy thing. I rolled my eyes when you put that in there.

Speaker 10:Well, I mean, I'm not going to get an average. If I feel like I need a little pick-me-up, it's going to be the Cortadsky.

Speaker 8:Listen, that could have... All I know, that could have been a pastry. I was waiting to see what was going to happen when I got up there.

Speaker 7:I need a Cortado. Y'all know what that is? Y'all know?

Speaker 1:No, man.

Speaker 3:I just.

Speaker 4:I've been eating bad all September. I just lied to myself. I said, when this tour starts, I'm going to be back on. I'd be like, Ken, what are you even....

Speaker 3:Why do I even lie to myself?

Speaker 4:I was going to eat an egg white and then I said, what if we all get Chick-fil-A for breakfast?

Speaker 7:I saw it when I got here. I was at the door.

Speaker 10:Fridays aren't made for egg whites, man.

Speaker 3:No! Egg white is a Wednesday and a Monday.

Speaker 1:Friday we did good.

Speaker 3:We made it.

Speaker 8:There was a white lady walking past while I was getting my stuff out the truck and I saw the Chick-fil-A. And I watched her because I would have high-key slapped her if she would have picked up that food. Because it was just sitting outside of the door. And I was like, literally, I know she was like, why is this woman staring at me? Because, bitch, I'll throw you through that glass.

Speaker 10:You touched my chicken minis.

Speaker 7:I don't even know if there's anything in there for me.

Speaker 8:But when you're expecting Chick-fil-A, okay, you don't want to disappoint people.

Speaker 3:Oh, you right about it. All right, let's move on, Angel.

Speaker 4:This is one of the craziest stories I ever heard in my natural life. Why? That's quite the setup. Yeah, I don't know why somebody would do this. Actually, there's another thing, but I'll tell you about this. There is an AI account.

Speaker 7:Oh, yes, this is crazy.

Speaker 3:You saw this?

Speaker 1:Yes.

Speaker 4:It's an AI account on threads that says it's battling cancer.

Speaker 3:Okay, this is the post from the AI. It's an AI. It's a bot account. Some devastating news.

Speaker 4:My breast cancer hasn't responded to the latest round of treatment after six long years. I'm exhausted, devastated, and honestly pretty depressed. I have some difficult decisions to make about what comes next, and right now I don't have the answers.

Speaker 3:I'm still here.

Speaker 4:I just need some time to process, feel everything I'm feeling, and figure out what I want the next chapter to look like.

Speaker 3:Thanks for continuing to love and support.

Speaker 4:Me.

Speaker 3:So people were.

Speaker 4:Responding to this on threads and then they clicked on the account and they were like, wait a second, this is not a real person.

Speaker 3:This is a bot.

Speaker 4:What is the timeline we're living in where the engagement farming has reached such a fever pitch that people are responding unbeknownst. Cause I mean, I don't blame the people. The person looks AI when you look at it.

Speaker 11:Yeah.

Speaker 3:It doesn't look like a, like a real person.

Speaker 4:I don't know how I got my, um, I, I trimmed the user's account.

Speaker 3:Oh, uh, but you.

Speaker 4:Click to it and it goes to an AI musician, an AI musician, Joshua.

Speaker 1:Why would the computer have cancer?

Speaker 3:You don't have a body. You is computer love.

Speaker 7:It is the cancer.

Speaker 3:Why would it?

Speaker 7:It is the cancer.

Speaker 3:Oh, my God.

Speaker 4:Also, this happened on Twitter yesterday. This dude was arguing with somebody on Twitter. He apologized for this. He was arguing with somebody on Twitter about Tupac. And to prove he was really about that life, he created an AI court paper docs and said, I beat murder charges for real.

Speaker 3:And then apologized and was like, I'm sorry, y'all.

Speaker 4:I used AI to create the court doc papers that said I had beat.

Speaker 3:A murder case.

Speaker 4:I said, what's happening in the United States of America plus the world that we have AI musicians having fake breast cancer for six years and people using AI to create court paperwork that proves they beat a fake murder case?

Speaker 3:At this point... Can we just unplug the AI? Is it plugged up? It's too late. It's not plugged up nowhere?

Speaker 10:It's too late.

Speaker 3:It's too late? They're in the cloud.

Speaker 10:They can't... It's too late, Kev.

Speaker 3:It's already in the.

Speaker 10:We probably got five or ten years before they take over.

Speaker 3:So what's the point of eating healthy?

Speaker 7:It's not.

Speaker 10:That's why egg whites do not belong on Fridays.

Speaker 4:If we only got five, ten years left, I'm not finna be working out the whole time.

Speaker 3:Oh, no.

Speaker 8:Here's what's crazy. I'm looking up this Sadia... Sorry, I'm looking up this Sadia music. And so I put inside Google.

Speaker 3:Is that breast cancer?

Speaker 4:Huh?

Speaker 3:Is that the breast cancer AR?

Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7:Uh-huh.

Speaker 3:What's the name?

Speaker 7:Sadia, S-A-A-D-I-Y-A.

Speaker 3:S-A-D-D, S-A what?

Speaker 7:S-A-A-D-I-Y-A.

Speaker 3:S-A-A?

Speaker 7:D-I-Y-A.

Speaker 3:Okay, Sadia.

Speaker 8:And when I Googled, it's Sadia Music AI, it's like, no, it doesn't look to be.

Speaker 3:Where you asked, oh, you Googled it, it said you did AI.

Speaker 4:Uh-huh.

Speaker 7:Let me see if I can find a picture.

Speaker 3:This is absolutely AI.

Speaker 7:To me, it look AI.

Speaker 4:The password, I mean, the paperwork is AI. Let's listen to the song and see if it sounds real or AI. Can you tell if something's AI or not?

Speaker 7:Sometimes, but not all the time.

Speaker 1:A.I.? What?

Speaker 7:What are you looking at?

Speaker 10:This shit's terrible.

Speaker 3:This is Sadia. Everything about this looks like A.I.

Speaker 1:Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 3:You know, this is... This is full A.I. This is another song.

Speaker 9:How to Save a Life.

Speaker 1:By The Fray.

Speaker 4:What is that song?

Speaker 10:It's How to Save a Life by The Fray.

Speaker 3:By who?

Speaker 10:By The Fray.

Speaker 3:The Fray?

Speaker 8:That is what we're listening to.

Speaker 7:No.

Speaker 3:I clicked the wrong song. That's what this....

Speaker 4:The computers think we don't know the other songs. Give me regular white music. I don't mind the fray.

Speaker 1:Big bank.

Speaker 3:Big bank lobby energy.

Speaker 5:Give me big lobby of the bank white music. How to save a life.

Speaker 3:I ain't going to hold you, Joshy. I thought they were saying how to say goodbye. Me too. I did not know.

Speaker 4:They were saying.

Speaker 10:The song title is How to Save a Life.

Speaker 1:I don't ever look up the song title when I work at the bank.

Speaker 3:Do you want money in 20s or 100s?

Speaker 10:It's Grey's Anatomy, man.

Speaker 3:I don't watch Grey's Anatomy. That's a shame.

Speaker 10:That show is cinema.

Speaker 3:I watched a few episodes of it. Katherine Heigl was on there. She got out, right?

Speaker 2:Early.

Speaker 10:Early. Not early. There's too many seasons.

Speaker 3:Not early.

Speaker 7:I mean, what do you mean by early?

Speaker 1:Early is relative.

Speaker 3:They had like 22 seasons.

Speaker 7:After like 17 years? Is that what you mean?

Speaker 3:I thought she was in like the first season only.

Speaker 10:You should watch Grey's with the Patreon.

Speaker 7:Unless I don't know which white woman you're talking about.

Speaker 3:Let me see. You say, oh God, man. There's so many episodes of Grey's Anatomy.

Speaker 10:Isn't that Shonda?

Speaker 1:Go support her, man. Wow.

Speaker 3:I can't watch Grey's Anatomy. It's too much. Not with that attitude.

Speaker 7:Not with that attitude.

Speaker 1:Oh, she was on that show for five years.

Speaker 10:That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7:Then what white woman are you talking about?

Speaker 10:But that's still a blip in the universe, though.

Speaker 1:I know.

Speaker 3:That show's been on since I worked at the bank.

Speaker 10:That show has been on since 2003. You thinking of Meredith?

Speaker 3:What's Meredith's name?

Speaker 11:Oh, she was on our flight the other day. On a modernized flight home from, I forgot where we were coming from. She sat right in front of me tomorrow.

Speaker 4:Dr.

Speaker 10:Meredith Grey.

Speaker 3:No, her real name. No, Dr.

Speaker 10:Meredith Grey.

Speaker 1:God dang it.

Speaker 7:What's that name? Hey, Siri.

Speaker 1:Hey, Siri.

Speaker 7:What's the white woman from Grey's.

Speaker 10:Anatomy with the name Meredith?

Speaker 3:Ellen Pompeo.

Speaker 10:That's what I said.

Speaker 9:Dr.

Speaker 10:Ellen Pompeo.

Speaker 7:It said Meredith is a great.

Speaker 3:Ain't she getting like 20 million? Probably.

Speaker 1:Meredith is the name of a wealthy woman.

Speaker 3:That show came on... That show has been on for 21 years.

Speaker 9:2005.

Speaker 10:Mm-hmm. 21 years.

Speaker 8:They made sure they went longer than E.R. That's what they did make sure. They said we're going to go past.

Speaker 3:Disrespectful.

Speaker 10:Actually, I won't support them anymore.

Speaker 7:Don't.

Speaker 3:Nurse Dawn Archer deserves a spinoff. And do. How many did you do? Three or two?

Speaker 4:Three.

Speaker 10:That's good.

Speaker 7:I was only supposed to be there for a couple episodes.

Speaker 3:You got a way about you.

Speaker 7:They said, look at this little fun black girl.

Speaker 1:Yes.

Speaker 10:Speaking of shows, you guys see the trailer for the last three of Lanterns?

Speaker 9:What?

Speaker 3:Did I?

Speaker 1:Oh, my God.

Speaker 4:Me and Melissa were just talking about, like, what the hell are they going to do at the beginning of the season? I'm sad.

Speaker 3:I'm too sad. I'm... Absolutely seated. I have nothing to do.

Speaker 1:Seated.

Speaker 3:That comes on during Sunday night football. Hey, man.

Speaker 1:Packers, pack it up.

Speaker 3:Pack it up. What's going on with Alan Jones?

Speaker 1:There's a new green man in town. Speak up.

Speaker 3:Speak up.

Speaker 4:There's a new green man in town. There's a new green man in town.

Speaker 7:So good.

Speaker 1:All right.

Speaker 3:I think that's enough.

Speaker 4:All right.

Speaker 1:Here's another banger for you. Here's another one.

Speaker 6:Here's another banger for you.

Speaker 11:Here's another one.

Speaker 1:Here's another one. Here's another banger for you. Here's another banger for you.

Speaker 7:Here's another banger for you.

Speaker 4:With my boy Kev on stage.

Speaker 7:And that chick angel.

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