Episode 65: Console Mania!

0:06Speaker 1:This week on the I Racing Down Shift, we get into all the latest from NASCAR twenty five and I Rasing Arcade. We cover what's happening in the world of I Racing esports, and we talk a little bit about how safety rating works. All this and more is to strap in.

0:33Speaker 2:Welcome to the I Rasing Downship, Tummy. He's Greg West, I'm back of the boys, Kevin Bobba and Chris.

0:37Speaker 3:Leoni and sound Guyshan We're back. It's been like two months.

0:43Speaker 4:It's been a while.

0:44Speaker 2:In a minute more often, Yeah, I blame you, But how many times? How many times have I asked about doing the podcast?

0:51Speaker 4:Lots? I've been busy. There's been so much going on.

0:54Speaker 3:We have been busy. But we got a great show as usual for everybody.

0:58Speaker 4:You said that every time.

1:00Speaker 2:No, no, that's not true. I had not say it every time. Last time I said we had an okay show or our mediocre show.

1:06Speaker 4:So this one's going to be I like it.

1:08Speaker 3:This one's going to be great.

1:09Speaker 2:Have a great debt, love it, love it all Right, we're gonna talk about what we've been up to. I'm reading Chris's outline, you know, he puts it in Microsoft Word, but I don't have word, so then it's.

1:22Speaker 3:Kind of weird.

1:23Speaker 5:I don't know that sounds like a skill issue.

1:26Speaker 2:We've moved up, We've moved on from talking about APA formatting, so ay, we're gonna talk about NASCAR twenty five. I rasing Arcade, Black Friday Sale, a bunch of stuff with the esports. Sorry, Chris, I don't see much about dirt on there. I don't know if you'll work it in and I believe in it. And we've got some special events to talk about, not to mention a little bit of a tease on the season one built, and then we might we might just throw a wrench into things and talk about some.

1:53Speaker 3:Conversations from the forums that could be spicy.

1:58Speaker 5:Oh boy, sounds Kevin.

2:00Speaker 4:What you been up to? Lots lots going on. Let's see. Was it sim Racing Expo with you and Angela? That was a good time.

2:09Speaker 3:Yes.

2:09Speaker 4:Off in Germany, so many, so many great partners and friends over there. Got to catch up. Talked a bit about I racing, studios, I racing all of our products. But it's always always a good time to catch up with people. It's such a good community event, exciting that they're bringing it over to Charlotte next year too, so that's pretty cool.

2:30Speaker 3:Yeah, they're busy already and we'll be.

2:31Speaker 4:There so more to come on that at some point.

2:34Speaker 2:I was talking to Luke earlier this week, Luke Crane from Redline, who was also the MC from the event, and he said they are already starting on Charlotte.

2:43Speaker 3:There is no ain't no rest of the Wicked. But what about your golf shirt? You're I Racing Racing golf.

2:50Speaker 4:That's it got pretty positive reviews. But I will say you either love it or hate it right who everybody at the x Bow was trying to buy it from. I could have sold that shirt off my back, which would have been weird, but I could have done that.

3:04Speaker 3:Please spare us.

3:08Speaker 4:But it's a great golf shirt, so you know, I like to represent the brand.

3:11Speaker 3:It is not a great golf shirt. For anybody that's wondering, this is not a great shirt.

3:15Speaker 4:Oh my gosh, I don't know what to say.

3:18Speaker 3:I mean, I was supposed to get an I Racing polo, but somebody didn't bring.

3:21Speaker 4:I will give you the golf shirt.

3:24Speaker 3:I'm good, I'll make you wear it. So no, no, thank you.

3:28Speaker 4:Tony likes the golf shirt. Steve likes the golf shirt.

3:30Speaker 3:You know one of those two is listening to this podcast.

3:32Speaker 5:A lot of them we don't know, and that's why we think before we speak.

3:38Speaker 4:That's why Sean can edit this thing we do.

3:40Speaker 3:Thanks Sean Real, MVP of the show, Chris, what have you been up to?

3:44Speaker 1:I just got back a couple of days ago from the SEMA show in Las Vegas. Did you get another suit this year?

3:50Speaker 4:No?

3:51Speaker 1:I did not get another suit this year, but my friends at rally IX took me up with some gears, so I did not come out of Vegas without new clothing. So we're on a streak of that that I hope to continue. I was walking the floor, had some conversations with some great folks that hopefully you'll see in the I Racing Paint Booth in coming seasons. But I also got to be the camera person inside the rally xFC one during Optima Unleash, so it was fun. I have one camera that's filming Kevin Erickson as he's driving. I've got one camera that I've got pointed outside of the car and in the meantime, while he's doing donuts, with the eleven hundred horse power car. I'm just trying to make sure I don't hurl on my open face helmet.

4:31Speaker 1:So that was a blast all electric horsepower, which means I know it's Kevin's favorite car. And the only downside is the experience has probably ruined roller coasters for me forever, because nothing is going to compare to being in that car. We went from zero to sixty and under a second and a half. It's pretty wild.

4:50Speaker 4:The real question, the real question is did you come home with any new diecasts for once?

4:57Speaker 1:No, because I needed to load up on all the free ste up from the show floor. So I got the cylinders, I got some decals, I got a few other things.

5:05Speaker 3:Kevin, whre is it than the employee handbook about gifts and receiving and having to get permission depplicit permission from the cylinders?

5:13Speaker 4:I handed out that seema usually are not appropriate to hang in an office wall.

5:16Speaker 1:Here, Muscle cars come on? Yeh, when was the last time you went to SEMA? Okay, it was all fifty sixties hot rods. It's a good deal. It's worth every penny I paid for it.

5:29Speaker 4:All right, Well, what about you? Greg? What have you been doing besides racing Expo SIM.

5:33Speaker 2:Racing XPOL is a good time? I can I had a you know my rental card. I can tell you the number. It's electronically limited to. I'll tell you that privately though. On the Autobahn so perfectly legal. What's a special experiences when you're at that number and then you get passed by a yellow porsa GT two?

5:51Speaker 4:Is there? Is there anything else you want to talk about on the autobon? No? No, no, leave that alone. Then that's right?

6:01Speaker 5:All the time?

6:03Speaker 3:Holiday show, Holiday show. Yeah, no, we'll leave that alone. No. When those cameras in the flash red, I don't know what those red lights meeting. I don't know if those red lights that is that a bad thing? So we'll know how bad of the thing it was.

6:17Speaker 4:I don't think it means you won.

6:18Speaker 5:Yeah, but I don't know.

6:19Speaker 4:We'll find out.

6:21Speaker 2:But all right, let's get into it. I Racing Studios, NASCAR twenty five. It's getting a pretty good reception, isn't it, Kevin?

6:28Speaker 4:Oh, It's been very well received both the NASCAR community the gaming community. People are loving it. Tons of great feedback, tons of great reviews. What else can I say about it? It's the next step is that it comes out on Steam on the eleventh, which is on Tuesday, a couple of days from now. I don't know when this is actually hitting Sean. When this is going out Sean around then. It's Friday today, so maybe this will be out Monday. I don't know something like that unless we make Sean work over the weekend. Should we do that? That's nice?

7:01Speaker 4:But now, But anyway, NASCAR twenty five has got an awesome career mode. I think I made an announcement yesterday that I won my Expanity Championship yesterday.

7:09Speaker 3:So the congratulations, you know we're gonna move what different're going to move up from rookie.

7:16Speaker 4:I have now won more races in NASCAR twenty five than I have in I racing, So that tells you something about my skill set. Really anyway, Okay, super fun. What else? Oh, there's a DLC PAC coming out soon, which will be I don't know. Can we talk about that, Chris, I guess we've talked about it.

7:33Speaker 1:Yeah, similar to the last one, you know, we'll have We'll have a substantial amount of paint schemes, you know, across all the different series. You know, it was part of the part of the Season Pass and part of the Gold Edition, so you know, just adds a little more realism to to your opponent car experience and when you're playing as your favorite driver and single player yeap.

7:54Speaker 4:And Career Mode is super fun, and I know Chris has been hard at work putting a lot of walkthroughs on the site so you can kind of of get a feel for what it's about before you buy it, but definitely check it out. Career Remote, I think is super fun. I love that on these types of games.

8:07Speaker 3:So yep.

8:08Speaker 1:Certainly lots of tips and tricks and strategies things like that in there. You know, as with anything, you know, the more strategic you are, the better result you can get. You know, you've got to manage those employees, you get to manage that equipment, and that's how you get the most.

8:25Speaker 4:Out of it. Yep, yep. And what else was I going to say? I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I thought I had something else to say about NASCAR.

8:32Speaker 5:You guys been making any fun paint schemes on the booth?

8:36Speaker 4:Painter no, so I no, I have to say no. Good Paint NASCAR twenty five dot com is where you can learn more about it and figure out how to purchase, or I Racing Studios dot com that works as well, so lots of options there.

8:52Speaker 3:We also have I rasing ArKade. The demo is out.

8:55Speaker 2:It's been a lot of fun to see the reception. We had that at the Fantasy booth at the at the SIM Racing Expo. They set up a couch with a big screen TV.

9:04Speaker 4:So it's just perfect. That's why I played here.

9:07Speaker 3:It's fantastic.

9:08Speaker 4:Yeah, awesome.

9:09Speaker 2:I'm curious how many controllers they went through because it was a wireless controller, and I'm curious of how many walked off.

9:15Speaker 4:Hopefully none. Hopefully some community was good to them.

9:19Speaker 3:But no, there was a line there the entire time. It was cool to see the reception. It was the demo. If you haven't tried it, go try it. It's free. It's the Portion nine eleven GT three Cup car at Sekuba.

9:29Speaker 2:It was one of the top fifty most played demos during Steam Nextfest and we're excited for December second full launch of the game. I think you will probably see some more stuff coming out in the near future, maybe Kevin a def diary.

9:43Speaker 4:I know that we are working on a lot of cool stuff, So dev diary is coming maybe next week ish, depends on when we get all pieces put together, but lots more social content will be pushing out to make sure you follow the social handles because you'll get to see more cars, more tracks, all that kind of stuff to really get a feel for the game.

10:01Speaker 3:So yeah, we've announced that one.

10:03Speaker 2:So we've announced all the cars and all the tracks at this point, so seven cars, fourteen tracks, uh, and there will be more to come after that. And once again, that's on a PC only released on December second, and we'll have Xbox in PlayStation in the spring. Don't have a date yet, but looking forward to uh to getting that knocked out, and.

10:20Speaker 4:We're probably worth mentioning on that. That just a reminder the game is designed for controller roller. There's wheel support. It's not built for that. It's not that sort of game. So let's just get in front of that so that people aren't wondering why the wheel doesn't work. It's not supposed to.

10:35Speaker 3:It's not supposed to. We tried it.

10:37Speaker 2:The way the physics is simplified and designed, it just does not work with wheels. Uh so this is controller and actually keyboard.

10:44Speaker 3:Keyboard is a but.

10:45Speaker 4:It's it's great on a on a like an Xbox controller, you know, plugged into your PC. It's it's you can tell it's made for that really drive. It's really fun.

10:55Speaker 5:It does say arcade right in the title.

10:57Speaker 4:Yes, that's a giveaway, right, Yeah, that's with that right, but you know, I just wanted to point that out.

11:04Speaker 2:What's really cool too is you don't have to have a high powered PC to run this. I've run it on a PC that was not a gaming PC. Just the regular Intel built in graphics card will run the game.

11:14Speaker 3:So yeah, really excited for them. Yeah great, all right, moving on I racing news. It's that time of year, Kevin.

11:22Speaker 4:Black Friday is back. I can tell you that the marketing team is tired of me talking about Black Friday because it's Yeah, it's a big promotion, you know, the a lot of little pieces that go into it to make sure it all works right. So we've been working on for a while, but it just started this week and it runs until December. Second, is that right, Chris? I always have to look at Chris. Yeah, make sure I have my dates, right, I should know that. But yeah, so fifty percent off new memberships. If you're not a member, you can sign up for any four of the membership types we have one month, three month, twelve month, twenty four month get it half off. And if you're an existing member or a member that has let their membership laps, you can get twenty five percent off when you've signed backup or early renew for twelve months or twenty four months.

12:04Speaker 3:Not a bad not a bad thing.

12:06Speaker 4:All the details are on iRacing dot com slash black Friday, and I'm sure the support team or something, right, So, I'm sure the support team would like us to clarify that if you do that twelve or twenty four month renewal as an existing member with a current current subscription, that it tax on to the end. That's right.

12:24Speaker 1:I lose count every year of how many emails we have that discusses that particular fact. So if you do it now and your membership was going to expire on Jan one, twenty twenty six, then with the twelve month it'll expire Jan one, twenty twenty seven.

12:40Speaker 5:Just to be abundantly clear about.

12:42Speaker 4:That, Yep, yep, absolutely so. I racing dot Com slash black Friday for all the details.

12:48Speaker 3:Check it out.

12:49Speaker 2:All right, e Sports Championships, we got a bunch going on right now. If or Esports Global Championship presented by Mosa Chris thirty nine battles going after thirty five grand and we're about to start the well, I guess third round, second weekend.

13:03Speaker 3:Yeah.

13:03Speaker 1:So the most fun thing about this series to me is the fact that you don't know where you're racing until twenty four hours beforehand. And to me, coming from the forms of racing that I come from, I love that you can't You can't just spend all sorts of time practicing, practicing, becoming a robot and just nailing your lines. You got to get in there, you got to adapt real quickly, and so Henry Moore was the first person to be able to do that.

13:28Speaker 4:Take the victory at.

13:29Speaker 1:Zandvoort, Dana Moore at Road Atlanta. So if you want to watch these races Saturdays nineteen zero zero GMT November eighth, November twenty two, December sixth, that's when we've got the remaining three double headers of the season, and somebody's going to walk away with a nice little check at the end of this.

13:47Speaker 2:Yeah, and some really close racing the four cars. I think the Road Atlanta race was less than a tenth of a second line, so really good racing.

13:56Speaker 4:And to tie that back to I Racing arcade doesn't have four car in there, right, there is an f F I a F four car. Pardon me, I got the name wrong, but that's a fun car in our arcade as well.

14:08Speaker 2:We don't have Road Atlanta yet, No this time, maybe maybe some time, right, we might find it if they're listening. We also have the MC Esports Global Championship kicking off yep, fourth season, Chris go for chrism.

14:27Speaker 1:Sorry, I've been watching the I've been watching the World Series, and I watched that catch at the bottom of the ninth and I guess I just ran you over there, Kevin.

14:36Speaker 5:But we're going nextra innings now.

14:39Speaker 4:So you're turning it over to me, even though no, no, oh god, I.

14:44Speaker 3:Was under the impression Kevin was talking about.

14:47Speaker 4:I'm happy to the Esports Global Championship is already running, right. We had Round one kicked off November. I think what else can I say? BMW red Line one, GTP Classy Sports Run one GTD that was at Rhade Atlanta. We've got Seabring, Long Beach and Daytona and in December, right Christmas, I'm gonna ends. Uh.

15:12Speaker 1:Daytona closed it out December seventh. But yeah, the interesting thing about the November twenty third round is the GTPs are going to go to Long Beach and the gtds are going to go to Vio.

15:23Speaker 4:We've split the races. I forgot. That's that's new this year. I think we didn't do.

15:27Speaker 1:First time it's happened in series history. See, that's why I called for the fly ball because I was ready.

15:32Speaker 4:You knew I was going to flow it.

15:34Speaker 3:We've never done baseball analogies on the shelf.

15:36Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't know that.

15:38Speaker 1:There seems to be something ironic about that to me, if you if you really think about it.

15:42Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, not lost on me.

15:46Speaker 1:But let's also not forget the grid Finder LMP three Challenge support races for these two remaining November rounds, where there are going to be some all stars and there are going to be some people who have qualified in with the community, some twenty minute sprint races with the LMP three car. That's going to be a blast. That is such a fun car to drive, and I think that's going to put on excellent, very popular support.

16:06Speaker 4:I will be clear, since it's all stars, Greg, myself and Chris are not going to qualify.

16:10Speaker 3:For that accurate that is that is an accuracy.

16:13Speaker 5:When have you ever seen me go out for a road race?

16:16Speaker 3:Come on, yes, two does it occasionally?

16:19Speaker 4:Yeah, but I did a couple of staff races back in twenty twenty when I made you do that.

16:22Speaker 5:So I'm pretty sure I did Crandon on a controller and that was about it.

16:27Speaker 4:Okay, Yeah, all.

16:29Speaker 2:Right, special events. We got a bunch of them coming up. Suzuka one thousand. This weekend, No, next weekend, No, not this weekend. Yeah, not this weekend. Sorry, I'm looking at the Yeah.

16:43Speaker 5:No, that's true.

16:45Speaker 2:We're doing the verification today. It's remember fourteenth through the sixteenth. There we go, it's this weekend as this airs.

16:54Speaker 4:In the future. Yes, it's like the last podcast shifting.

16:58Speaker 2:We're doing time shifting. Yeah, alright, Tony, really sorry, I promise we're good at our jobs.

17:03Speaker 3:Please. Yeah.

17:06Speaker 2:But Suzuka one thousands, So we've got GT three's racing there at Suzukah Obviously we've got the sec A runoffs. Chris, how many eleven eleven sixty car fields of eleven GT three manufacturers?

17:21Speaker 3:Off the top of my head?

17:22Speaker 4:I know this sounds pretty good.

17:24Speaker 2:Does anyone remember we used to just be able to put six cars in the sim?

17:30Speaker 4:Yeah?

17:31Speaker 2:This is where this is where Kevin's going to say, I remember we could put one card. I've been here since before we had a product.

17:37Speaker 4:If you wanted to point that out, that is true.

17:40Speaker 2:So I think the thumbnail for this needs to be Kevin walking around with the I Racing sign and trying to get in the shot and speed channel.

17:49Speaker 3:That's that's how long Kevin's been here.

17:51Speaker 5:That's a blast from the past.

17:53Speaker 4:Yea, I have been here a while. What can I say?

17:57Speaker 1:All Right, So scc A runoffs Chris, Yes, Classes November twenty second is the big day. We're running the super session format again, I believe Greg. Yes, Yes, so super session format, which is really cool. You run races all week long and those determine what split you're going to be in when you run the super sessions on the weekend. So six classes here, USF two thousand, GT four Spec Racer, Ford Global MX five, Cup, Renault Cleo and Formula V, which you know, if you love if you love road racing, that that is one heck of a lineup right there.

18:33Speaker 1:And I believe we said Road America for this year.

18:36Speaker 2:Yeah, Road America, because that's where the runoffs are in real life. And it's really interesting if you go look up videos of Formula V racing at Road America because it's basically Talladega, especially this straight away going to turn five. You know, you just draft locked. This is one of my favorite special events of the year. The way we do it with the broadcast team and you just get basically six hours of racing. It's just like watching the runoffs, and you get a variety of names that you don't necessarily normally see because you have to qualify in.

19:08Speaker 3:It is a little different.

19:10Speaker 2:There's a lot of opinions on it, but it's the one that I like to sit back on the weekend and just watch a lot of good racing. So looking forward to that might dip in USF two thousand. I'venna to show up and show and go that one a little bit to USF two thousand and Rotomax good combination, but yeah, that one's exciting. We've got twenty twenty six special event calendar, as a reminder, usually comes out around the first week of December, about halfway through.

19:35Speaker 4:It, so we're sort of on track for that.

19:38Speaker 3:We are on track for that.

19:39Speaker 4:I love it.

19:40Speaker 3:We're trying. It's the big chess game of the year.

19:43Speaker 2:It's you know, balancing all the special events with all the special series and all the other stuff that's going to pop up and trying to make.

19:49Speaker 3:It not overlap.

19:50Speaker 4:So it will be out hashtag soon, hash tag soon.

19:55Speaker 2:We also have the Winter I Racing NASCAR series, which has the best acronym in all of these sports, win wins hashtag wins. Then in nineteen eighty seven NASCAR Cup Cars, we got both fixed and open setups back. Really excited for that one as well. I know that community is gets fired up for that. Now the NIS is over, you still have something to do over the winter time, so it should be a really good time there. And then we also have the twenty twenty six season one build coming out second week of December KEF very soon, very hashtag.

20:28Speaker 4:Soon, very soon. And I'm pleased to tell you that Greg Hill's dev blog is in the works and that is actually coming out soon. I would expect that next week so or this week, depending on when you're listening to this. But it's in the works and that will have much more detail as to what's coming. Can't really spill the beans yet. Greg asked me not to he wanted to other Greg, that's right, I wouldn't listen to you, but the other grad did this.

20:55Speaker 3:I'm used to that.

20:58Speaker 4:No, So Greg's working on it. It'll be out next week and that will kind of give you the lay of the land. What's coming in December. The December build is on the sixth or seventh.

21:09Speaker 3:Remember that Tuesday is yeah.

21:11Speaker 4:Whatever that Tuesday is so in about a month, so this is typical timing for the dev dev blog. But be on the lookout for it. I'm sure let the community know when it's out.

21:23Speaker 2:So this is a few weeks for marketing with the NASCAR NASCAR twenty five Steam release, I've got Iris and Garcade coming out December second, and then following week got the season season one build.

21:34Speaker 4:So hey, speaking of marketing, what did you guys think of the the NASCAR twenty five spot with Dale Junior.

21:41Speaker 2:I thought that was that was pretty cool, especially I had no idea that was happening, and then I saw it natively.

21:48Speaker 3:I was like, whoa, what is this?

21:49Speaker 4:Where did this come from? Yeah? No, we have to thank we have to thank NASCAR for it. The NASCAR productions did all the hard work. But it came out really great. I thought, really quality piece. So nice to have the support from NASCAR on the game.

22:04Speaker 2:All right, Moving on, this is the one that that Kevin confused me on on whether we were doing this part. I thought we were gonna do some little spicy We're gonna talk about something from the forms that people will's talk about it.

22:17Speaker 3:Let's talk about it, Kevin.

22:19Speaker 2:Safety rating. I mean, you've been around since the beginning. You were you know, you've at the beginning of safety rating.

22:26Speaker 4:Yeah, I have been. What do you want to talk about it?

22:31Speaker 3:The weekly thread of safety grading?

22:36Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, I was probably being too nice there, the daily thread at least by yeah, every other day.

22:42Speaker 3:Safety rating is not fair. In the real world. You're not punished if somebody else makes a mistake.

22:48Speaker 4:It's a pretty sure system, I think, But go ahead.

22:52Speaker 2:I've raced in the real world. Again, it was just Formula V. But Kevin, you've done some lemons racing, right, yep. Yeah, if somebody else makes a mistake and hits your car, what happens.

23:10Speaker 4:I probably get upset and then I bring it back to the paddock, and I get my check book out and I buy a new fender or suspension part or something like. It's on me. It's are you my problem?

23:21Speaker 2:Right, So you do receive some negative impact if somebody else makes a mistake in the real world, and usually expensive, right.

23:28Speaker 4:It's usually it's usually dollar signs.

23:31Speaker 2:I think maybe we just need you know, that needs to be like the new tagline of safety rating, it's it's just about it's about the money somebody else hits you. Yeah, we messed up with safety rating points. You should have made it dollars.

23:43Speaker 4:Safety rating is about everybody is involved in the incident is impacted.

23:48Speaker 3:Yep.

23:48Speaker 4:There is no assign blame. It's an automated system. Right. We have thousands of races every every week. Right, there's no way to manually review review every incident. I mean, think about how many corners of there are too. The math is it's.

24:03Speaker 3:Impossible, ridiculous.

24:05Speaker 4:Yeah, and this is this is a system that works. I mean we have there is a protest for other things. Right, if you think somebody's driving into you intentionally, that's a different story, right, But in the end, your card's still damaged. In the real world. You know, if somebody in the real world intentionally wrecks you, they may get suspended from the series, right because they violated series rules, But your car is still mangled, right.

24:28Speaker 1:Yeah.

24:29Speaker 3:I think it was the old FIA rule.

24:31Speaker 2:I guess they changed it what two years ago, but it was like if you caused an incident the other guy, might you know, take a fifty g impact into the wall, five second penalty, right, right, So I mean there is president for this, but yeah, it's I think the other part of it too is it is, uh, when you get digcause somebody else makes a mistake, you go back and look at it. It's you can always find not always most of the time. I mean sometimes you're in a bad spot and that that's called racing. But yeah, you can look at it like could I have done something different? Could I have seen that coming? Because that's that's racecraft. You can't win it and turn one. You can't win it on a lap five. You have to be there at the end. And being there at the end is standing out in trouble too, including other people's trouble.

25:16Speaker 2:I see this forum thread all the time, and you know you don't want to jump in and start an internet argument, but I really do want to. I did want to bring that up and say, no, there is precedent in the real world for how we do things.

25:28Speaker 3:Is it perfect?

25:29Speaker 4:No?

25:29Speaker 3:Absolutely not.

25:30Speaker 2:Are the things that you know probably could be looked at and continually improved. Hey, that's why we put a build out every ninety days. We're always looking to improve. But I think once the red mess clears, if you look at it, you can usually find some stuff that makes sense.

25:46Speaker 4:So the other thing to consider is like, if you are in an incident and you get a four X, it doesn't really move your safety reading very much. And your safety writing isn't a score anyway, Like there's no points for having a four point nine. You know, it's it's just a number. It's just rating, just an average, right, So if it moves up or down a little bit, it is what it is. Keep racing, have a good time.

26:07Speaker 3:Same thing. I rating is not a score.

26:09Speaker 2:But I think there was a lot of people on the Internet that would would debate the battle.

26:15Speaker 3:Start an argument, I rating is a matchmaking tool. No, I rating is the score. Gosh, it is a match making tool.

26:22Speaker 4:Speaking of arguments, this is a segue into something I want to do on the next podcast that Tony brought up is let's have a discussion about who we think the top I racers or top SIM racers have been over the over the years. Tyler, bring bring a few names, we'll discuss them. Maybe we'll get some comments from people, because I'm sure we won't have it right according to some But I think there's a lot of good names out there. But I think we should, uh, we should all bring a list of who we think would would belong on that that that top list.

26:51Speaker 2:I think the hut has definitely got to be in the conversation, Greg, you were not far off the mark there.

26:56Speaker 3:Sorry, yeah, I would. I'm not not joking at all. He throw a tea hut in there's an og for sure.

27:04Speaker 2:But no, we should, uh you know, when we do social on this, let's let's put it put in the comments. Let us know who you think the best SIM racers are of all time and why and and maybe we'll read a couple of comments on the next podcast. I didn't run that by anybody. I just I did say that right now.

27:18Speaker 4:I love it. And you know, and for those that are asking, how are you rating them, it's up to you. You know, are they the fastest, are they the most consistent? Did they contribute the most to Samarasing? However, whatever your criteria is, it doesn't matter. Just just tell us who you think would be on that list and why.

27:36Speaker 2:All right now, under section four B, there's it says, whatever else we can bring out?

27:44Speaker 3:Do we have anything else we need to bring up?

27:49Speaker 5:You know I can't. I can't think of anything.

27:51Speaker 1:But all right, well hey when look when I send you guys the the outline, I give you every opportunity to add things in there.

27:59Speaker 3:I just it is I adjusted it, did I not?

28:03Speaker 1:You?

28:03Speaker 5:Did you took one or two things out?

28:06Speaker 3:And I reordered it and I added the safety rating discussion I contributed. You get a thank you, thank you, Mark. It's all I wanted. That's all I wanted is a good job. Thank you. My day is made, all right.

28:23Speaker 2:NASCAR twenty five coming to PC what November eleventh. We've got Iris s Arcade coming out December second. Sean put in chat that the season one build is December ninth. We were all by two days.

28:36Speaker 5:Hey we underbid.

28:37Speaker 2:That means we won the prices, right, Yeah, something like that. But thanks for listening to this episode of The I Racing Downship. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify.

28:46Speaker 3:And anywhere else.

28:47Speaker 2:Chris puts this thing for Chris Leoni, Kevin Bobbitt, and Saga Sean.

28:51Speaker 3:I'm Greg West and we'll see on the travel