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Welcome to my new show, Office Drama, where we sit with people obsessed with what they do, learn about the lessons they wish they knew earlier, and reveal the drama within. We interview people across tech, media, and entertainment. We also have a monthly(ish) advice segment called "Coworker Confessions" where you can anonymously submit your work drama, stories, and situations for a second opinion. ➔ Submit here: https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsCheck out Office Drama every Monday at 8am PT on Spotify, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts! If you like what you see and want to support the show,…
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Office Drama
Chloe Shih · Business · English
Welcome to ✨ Office Drama ✨ (formerly JOMO) - a work-culture talk show about the inner drama behind career breakthroughs. I'm Chloe Shih, a former tech product manager turned 2M+ followers creator, and I sit with people obsessed with what they do, learn about the lessons they wish they knew earlier,
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