Welcome to ✨ Office Drama ✨ (formerly JOMO) - a work-culture talk show about the inner drama behind career breakthroughs. I'm Chloe Shih, a former tech product manager turned 2M+ followers creator, and I sit with people obsessed with what they do, learn about the lessons they wish they knew earlier,
We’ve spent decades making everything faster, easier, and more convenient, but what if we optimized away some of the things that actually make us human?Srinija Srinivasan is basically a founding mother of the internet. She was employee #5 at Yahoo, spent 15 years there as Editor-in-Chief and VP, helped shape how the early internet was organized, chaired the board of SFJAZZ, served on Stanford’s Board of Trustees, and later co-founded Loove, bringing technology and the arts together. And now, she’s building an entirely new kind of college.In this ep, we talk about:→ what it was really like…
okay I need you to understand that this episode genuinely changed me 🥹✨Deb Liu is one of the most decorated women in tech. She spent 12 years at Facebook where she founded Facebook Marketplace, rose to VP, and then became CEO of Ancestry.com. She has 4 million+ views on her Substack, she's a board member of Poshmark and Intuit. She is simply built different!In this episode we get into:→ how Facebook Marketplace launched and immediately got a New York Times headline about drugs, guns, and baby hedgehogs 💀→ the invisible rules of power and influence that nobody tells you before you walk into…
Thank You to Our Sponsor!✹ Granola: your AI notepad for meetings → https://granola.ai/officedramaEllie Rui got promoted every single year of her career. Six years at Microsoft, from new grad PM to Principal, and now she's a beloved senior PM at Netflix. Her answer for how is simpler than you’d think: hard work doesn't paint the full picture. We get into what actually drives fast career growth, how one great manager changed the trajectory of her entire career, and how the PM landscape is changing faster than ever.In this ep, we talk about:→ how she got promoted every single year for six…
Creators got CANCELED for attending an AI brand trip...and we're finally addressing it. 🫣Today, I have the privilege of hosting Megan Lieu (data science + tech creator) on Office Drama to uncover what really went down on that trip and what it was actually like as a creator "getting canceled".I've worked professionally in Trust & Safety. I'm passionate about tech ethics, creator industries, and how we all should work together. And I really hope we can actually have constructive conversations on this platform that may push cultural, product, and policy changes for the better.It's very…
Half of 2026 is officially over... and I've never felt this behind in my career. 😅In today's episode of Office Drama, I'm doing my mid-year review out loud: what went wrong, what I'm scared of, and the 6 commitments I'm making so December-me doesn't have to go through the same existential disappointment.Today, we talk about:→ Why I felt so behind at the half-year mark of 2026→ The motherhood penalty: how does it impact your career? 👀→ A mutual creator who lost 10,000 followers overnight after announcing her pregnancy→ "Would you rather be pregnant or successful?" and why I don't want to…
Thank You to Our Sponsors!✹ Storyblocks: unlimited stock footage, music, and SFX for creators → https://storyblocks.com/officedramaWe've heard time and time again about the burnt out tech employee who quits a stable job to chase the dream. This time we're exploring the reverse!Daniel "Tafo" Lee has lived more careers than I can count on two hands. JPL engineer, coach to Melee god Mang0, Yahoo Esports show host, CLG General Manager, the internet's Tetris teacher, Web3 economist, Andreessen Horowitz, and now, at 37, starting over in big tech. He's no stranger to the creator economy and his…
Nobody tells you that when you get cast on MasterChef, you get to choose three people to fly out as your friends and family. Jaime ( @igumdrop ) chose Aria ( @AriaSaki ) , Kimi ( @AngelsKimi ) and I, and we spent a week on set with NO phones, 7AM call times, and a front-row seat to watching her cook on the biggest stage of her life.In this ep, we talk about:→ why Jaime almost went alone→ the mandolin accident that didn't make it to air→ what Gordon Ramsay is ACTUALLY like→ the moment Aria destroyed a MasterChef contestant→ what traditional TV gets right that creators don't→ why chasing…
Over the past decade, Jaime (@iGumdrop) has built a 2M+ following, founded her own successful clothing brand, dropped out of college to pursue streaming, and now she's on the cast of Season 16 of MasterChef!In this week's episode of Office Drama, we get into the version of the story you don't see on TV.In this ep, we talk about:→ why she almost said no to MasterChef→ what it's like to be on the cast of MasterChef→ the insane reality TV background check nobody warns you about→ what Gordon Ramsay is ACTUALLY like in person→ the roti canai controversy→ the truth about agents, managers, and the…
Rosie Nguyen is the Head of Creators at Suno, the world's leading AI music company. Before that she co-founded Fanhouse, joined Cantina, and went viral more times than I can count. She's bright, passionate, and comes into this episode with so many wild stories and experiences.In this ep, we talk about:→ growing up on food stamps and supporting immigrant parents→ getting demoted at her own company, then watching it get sold behind her back→ the phone call that saved her life→ going viral again and again and the attention that brings online→ why her current era makes her prouder than raising…
Sophia is one of my best friends, the officiant of my wedding, and one of the most cracked marketers I know. She's led campaigns at Airbnb, Databricks, and ElevenLabs. She won Best Dance Film at the LA Film Awards. She's also going through her biggest plot twist yet: leaving tech to pursue her art. Full time. For good. 🙂↕️In this episode, we talk about:→ why AI will never replace storytelling, taste, and human connection→ her honest take on the job market, what 20-somethings are getting wrong, and what a great interview actually looks like→ how she faced being belittled in by an interim…
It's been ~2 years since I've been laid off from my dream job at @Discord, and the most COMMON question you've asked me is: "Have you matched or beaten your tech salary after becoming a creator?"I never liked this question because it's sincerely not apples to apples. I also dislike it when creators say "I made my corporate salary in 1 brand deal!!" Because there are SO many nuances, caveats, tradeoffs, and financial implications when choosing between both paths. But I finally break that down in today's episode of Office Drama.Today, we get UNFILTERED and talk about:→ How I overcame feeling…
I've seen a pattern of senior ICs deciding to quit to bet on themselves, but we rarely get to see what it took to get there.Julia Fei, Sr. Data Scientist at Notion (and my dear creator friend), just made her decision to leave her dream job to pursue something she's always been curious about. But it was a calculated, deliberate decision that she spent years preparing for.In this week's episode of Office Drama, we reveal the inner drama of Julia's thought process and the conversations she's had navigating the transition.In this ep, we talk about:→ why Julia quit Notion when she genuinely loved…
My old Discord work bestie just got promoted *twice* in one year and I needed to know how he did it without losing himself in the process. Tobi Bisiriyu is a Product Design Manager at Discord and he's one of those rare people who is genuinely great at his job, actually likes it, and still makes work the least interesting thing about him. He cosplays, he goes to anime conventions, he walks one hour every day without exception, and he has a philosophy about life that I think more people in tech need to hear.In this ep, we talk about:→ Why looking competent is actually what's holding junior…
It's been about 2 years and 3 mo since I was infamously laid off from my dream product manager job at Discord. And today, I finally sit with my old manager to talk about life after layoffs. Derek Yang is now a Principal Product Manager at Roblox, and before that he was at YouTube, Twitch, Yik Yak, Facebook, and Discord where he was also my last ever corporate manager. In this ep, we talk about: → What it actually means to "make it" in tech (spoiler: he still doesn't think he has)→ the performance review that humbled him and forever changed → how he approaches his career→ why working hard is…
Welcome to my new show, Office Drama, where we sit with people obsessed with what they do, learn about the lessons they wish they knew earlier, and reveal the drama within. We interview people across tech, media, and entertainment. We also have a monthly(ish) advice segment called "Coworker Confessions" where you can anonymously submit your work drama, stories, and situations for a second opinion. ➔ Submit here: https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsCheck out Office Drama every Monday at 8am PT on Spotify, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts! If you like what you see and want to support the show,…
hii jomies!this is our ill-fated "fail episode." last year eric and i spent literally five hours on a sunday trying to film an episode about work resentment and burnout and every single take just sucked. we tried THREE times and failed every single time.but we had some really good nuggets in there so we chopped it up and pulled out the best parts for you guys. it's kind of a hodgepodge of segments but honestly some of my fave convos came out of it! we talk about someone reaching out to me asking for advice on whistleblowing, dealing with power tripping managers, the weird guilt of going…
today, we're taking you for a ride through season 2! this season had some of our favorite moments ever, some really fun guests, reflective moments, and a whole lot of chaos we didn't see coming.here are all our favorite moments in one place. thank you for being here for all of it, jomies... we love you!– chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
today, we're taking you back to season 1, where it all started!season 1 gave us SO much. here are all our favorite moments in one place. thank you for being there from the beginning jomies, we love you!– chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
today, jomo is coming to an end. we get into what jomo has meant to us, why we're closing this chapter, and what's coming next. what a ride it's been! jomies, thank you sincerely for your support through the years... we couldn't have done it without ya! love, chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
today is all about failure. what it actually means, how to handle it, and why your relationship with it will determine how far you go.we get into the difference between failing in your 20s vs. your 30s, what it means to keep swinging for the home run every single time, and why AI is making hard work feel suddenly very fragile.if you catch L's and never know what to do with them... this one's for you.love, chloe & eric 💌p.s. we're so sorry about the wide cam being out of focus this episode! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at…
today is all about family. the kind you're born into, the kind you build, and what it actually looks like to grow up, work, and create alongside the people who know you best. we sit down with RJ and Jalin Siu to talk about sibling dynamics, their content journey, creative dreams, and what it takes to turn your family into your team. if you've ever wondered what it would be like to do life with your siblings by your side... this one's for you. love, chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
today is all about how to manufacture luck in your career and why it's less about chance and more about the moves you make *before* the moment arrives. we get into the five key ingredients to luck, the behaviors that kill it, and how to stay motivated when you're doing everything right and nothing seems to be working yet. if you feel like things aren't always going your way... this one's for you. love, chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
today is all about dating when you're a successful, ambitious woman... and why it's so much harder than it should be.kristin has some of the most insane dating lore we've ever heard. we're talking breakup contracts, rough conversations around net worth, a hawaii date that turned into a job interview, and so much more. it gets crazy. if you're someone who's ambitious and has ever wondered why the green flags always seem to fade... this one's for you. love, chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at…
today is all about the "millennial career crisis" — what it is, why so many of us are in it, and what we're actually supposed to do about it.we talked about the "dream" we were sold growing up, the moment you realize the corporate ladder might not be going anywhere good, and how to start building something that actually fits your life instead.if you've ever sat at your desk thinking "wait… is this just it?" — this one's for you.– chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
today is all about vision boards, life quests, and two very different people trying to figure out what they actually want from the next year (or two). I show up with a full framework,and Eric shows up with his "vibes" and a two-year quest. We are not the same. If you've ever stared down a new year feeling the pressure to have it all figured out, or wondered what it looks like to actually build a life that feels like yours — this one's for you. love, chloe & eric 💌 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
this is our first real reflection of the current state of our 30s: friendship, comparison, dating, career.today, we talk about: • Why friendships feel deeper (and harder earned) in your 30s• The weird tension between success and comparison• Being ready to date again + reminiscing on old flames 🔥• Getting invited into “big rooms”… and still questioning everything• Our answers to the question: "are we actually happier now in our 30s?" love,chlo & eric See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
today, we unpack the dark side of ambition - what happens when you tie your self-worth to success, why reaching milestones doesn't always bring relief, and our complicated feelings about burnout when we've technically "made it". If you've ever thought "when I get there, I'll finally be happy," this one's for you. this was a moment when I learned about the term "toxic gratitude" where you feel you're not allowed to complain and you should be grateful for the job or position you have. we just quietly suppress our struggles and then we implode by binging manhwa 😳- chlo & eric See Privacy…
today is all about unpacking modern career life, side hustles, personal branding, burnout, and why we’re all so tired.is building a personal brand even a real thing? are side hustles empowering - or dystopian - and should you focus more on building something or marketing yourself~we get real about the cost of the grind and how to romanticize your own life despite all the struggle- hope you enjoy this honest conversation about career chaos 🤍 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/tech pm turned creator making videos on career, personal growth, and life in your 20s/30s. 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictwayco-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances @trykarat 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod∙ spotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/0sJAtVorz8TsYDzzyM04cq?si=9c913d3e0f2947be∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv∙ patreon →…
About Office Drama
Welcome to ✨ Office Drama ✨ (formerly JOMO) - a work-culture talk show about the inner drama behind career breakthroughs. I'm Chloe Shih, a former tech product manager turned 2M+ followers creator, and I sit with people obsessed with what they do, learn about the lessons they wish they knew earlier, and reveal the drama within. We also have a monthly(ish) advice segment, Coworker Confessions, for viewers to anonymously share their work tea or situations to get a second opinion. Tune in on Mondays at 8 am PT on Spotify, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts! 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 - IG: @chloe.shih
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