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This week’s On the Mones is a little different. After a deeply disappointing week for Sydney Swans supporters, I wanted to talk about what happens when a club you’ve believed in, and whose values you thought reflected your own, lets you down. I’ve always bought into the idea that the Swans had a different kind of culture: one that respected women, welcomed the queer community and stood for something beyond football. So the recent scandal has felt surprisingly personal. But I also don’t want t...
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SPEAKER_05:You're listening to On the Moans, where we have conversations about hormones, midlife, and the moments that make us wonder Is it just me? I'm Kate. I'm a 48-year-old pharmacist and newly minted perimenopausal oversharer. This is where we talk openly about the changes we aren't prepared for, so we never have to feel alone in them again. I acknowledge the Camaragle people of the Eora Nation, the traditional custodians of the land which I am recording today.
SPEAKER_05:I pay my respects to elders past and present, and I extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples listening. Always was, always will be, Aboriginal land. This episode is going to be a little bit different. I'm actually bringing you part of our most recent dinner time episode because we ended up having a conversation around the dinner table that I've been thinking about ever since. And it was about the Sydney Swans. So we are a Swans family.
SPEAKER_05:We have a membership, we go to the games, we deeply care about the club, and I think what has surprised me most about this past week is just how genuinely disappointed we've all felt. Actually, maybe disappointed isn't quite quite enough. We felt betrayed. Because I think the fact that we had bought into the idea that this one was a hell of a different club with a really strong culture. I called that genuinely women. I called that being up for the code we needed.
SPEAKER_05:We really like being associated with that. We like being with our club, they're owl-boy. And I know that we're in believing the mythology of any organization. We don't want a collection of a small number of people to completely change the way we feel about everybody else. They're our family. Under the shadow of something that I had absolutely nothing to do with. And they won. And I love that. I love saying that people are essentially saying, We're still here.
SPEAKER_05:Not what happened in the matter. Not everything needs to be forgiven, but the club is bigger than the people who have disappointed us. And it made me wonder about something. The women's game in some strange way gives one supporters a reason to feel good about their club again. Initially I thought, have the women saved the men. But the more I think about that, the less comfortable I am with it. Because they shouldn't have to. Women shouldn't be handed the job of restoring the reputation of a men's game after something they had nothing to do with.
SPEAKER_05:And this wasn't some clever piece of crisis management where somebody suddenly thought, quick, bring out the women. The double header was already played, and the women were already going to play at the SEG. What changed was what that game came to mean. Maybe they didn't save the men of the game. Maybe they reminded everyone that the second ones are not just the men of the game. I think that's the difference. I also believe in second chances. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be consequences.
SPEAKER_05:It doesn't mean pretending something wasn't serious, and it certainly doesn't mean that the people affected by somebody else's behavior owe them any forgiveness. But I don't particularly want to live in a world where the worst thing somebody does automatically becomes the only thing we're ever allowed to know about them. So I'm still working out exactly how I feel about all of this, and conveniently, I have a family who are more than happy to work it out with me in a video.
SPEAKER_05:Which is what you're about to hear. We also had quite a lovely weekend around all of that. Audrey and I went for a long run on Sunday, her longest run so far, and she absolutely finished it. We went to a 21st birthday celebration at the Sydney Aquarium with some very dear old friends. Why do sugar gliders smell so bad? And then, as usual, we attempted the Sydney Morning Herald Good Weekend quiz badly. So this week on the moons is coming to you from our dinner table.
SPEAKER_05:Welcome back to dinner time. Yeah, she was goaded. Well, if that means does that mean she did really well? Yeah. Is that what that means?
SPEAKER_04:Mum said that you're goaded on the source. Welcome back, my bodies. That's quote for podcast hoddies. Podcast hoddies. Mm-hmm. My bodies.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, so how do you have an 21st at the aquarium? You booked the aquarium. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Was there anybody else there?
SPEAKER_05:Mm-mm.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, it was completely just us. And the jellies?
SPEAKER_04:And were there people in in like other sections? No. There's no No, because it's closed.
SPEAKER_05:It's yeah, it's closed. So there's no um it's off for hours. Yeah. Oh, okay. You know the window where you look in and you see the I've been there recently. Yeah, so you know the window where you look in and you see the sea?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:The rays and the sharks and things. That's where you sit.
SPEAKER_03:It's amazing.
SPEAKER_02:It was fabulous. Great speeches. Yeah, great speeches. Great speech.
SPEAKER_05:Um, excuse me, sir. Are you weeing?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Butthole. Don't know what was saying that she was doing that at her house as well.
SPEAKER_01:Weing on the couch.
SPEAKER_04:Really?
SPEAKER_05:Does she have did she give you any clues as to how to She went, I've got no fucking clue.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, well that's not helpful. Thanks, Donna. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um, yeah. I just wanted to go. You could train. So he's had an overnight stay.
SPEAKER_06:We've given like no attempt. You can't complain that he's untrainable. We haven't we haven't tried training.
SPEAKER_02:Wow, poor guy's been holding on to that way all day.
SPEAKER_03:Wow.
SPEAKER_06:No, he's not.
SPEAKER_03:He's still staring off into the distance.
SPEAKER_04:But see, sir, you just whiz that and you lay down in the exact same spot.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but it's okay because he doesn't wear nappy. Here you go. Well I'm just gonna say, I'm gonna change topic completely and say, Odgie's not a true fan, but we're watching the football. And at the end they basically all cried. Well Errol did.
SPEAKER_03:Errol did? Callum did. Often they wanted the support from the crown, which was good.
SPEAKER_02:I guess also it's finals now. Yeah, but they were in the finals already. Yeah. A record number came to watch the women play. 16 bands. 18. 16 bands. The crying. How much crying? Ah! Or Errol was pretty.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Like Errol was, I'm gonna say, on the verge of sobbing.
SPEAKER_03:Errol had just run like 20 kilometers and he's really carrying understanding.
SPEAKER_04:Oh uh Kyle score a goal. New boy Kyle. It's Kyle.
SPEAKER_03:New boy. I think like uh and winger.
SPEAKER_06:Is his last name Kyle?
SPEAKER_04:Is he Harry?
unknown:No.
SPEAKER_04:He's replacing the lucid. He's nicknames the um the The Mumba. Oh no, that's what he could be bright.
SPEAKER_06:What's his name? I mean, no no no, what's his number?
SPEAKER_04:I don't know, bro. He looks like he he looks like Charlie Kernot. He does. A little bit. A bit like Charlie.
SPEAKER_03:With the hair. Yeah. Oh man.
SPEAKER_06:Anyway, Kick D's first. No idea who this person is.
SPEAKER_02:Kick D's first. Kick his first goal around the side, around the feet. It was an amazing goal, actually. And it was TikTok.
SPEAKER_06:The entire team, Hammond. Charlie Kono is such a hog. Was he the guy that was filling in for Brundy?
SPEAKER_02:No, Grundy was there. Grundy was there around. No, other one Grundy was also there.
SPEAKER_06:What's the other one, Gundy?
SPEAKER_02:I can't remember, but also very good. Can you you need to eat, please? You had a big tourman or you don't play for you know you don't watch for a week, the entire team is different. You're right, Doug, that was a lot of soup. That was young, actually. I didn't say the matchup.
SPEAKER_04:Also hyping up this guy quite a bit.
SPEAKER_02:How do we um this fan? How do we write the match? Yeah, femme makes mash.
unknown:Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_06:Because he's very good. How are we writing feminic mash, please? There's some lunch, but it's very this one, yeah. Feminine Errol. He's like a little younger than Errol. He's like half happily.
SPEAKER_02:He was good, actually. Yeah. He I didn't see him get a goal. I saw him have some attempts though.
SPEAKER_03:There were all more of an attempt.
SPEAKER_05:That little boy has had a big day. He came he came down and he went to his chair, and that that black bag was on his chair, and he was like, oh, really had a big day. I really just want to sleep in my chair.
SPEAKER_04:Did did Tom Papley only play for the swans?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Might be, yeah. He was a plumber. He's awesome.
SPEAKER_02:Was he a plumber? Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Apparently the boys are still ava uh available for a brown low.
SPEAKER_02:What?
SPEAKER_04:I think I'll revoke that, but. How does that work? Apparently.
SPEAKER_02:And when you say the boys, you mean the five.
SPEAKER_04:Heenie. They're still brown low. Contenders. Yeah. Ooh.
SPEAKER_06:No, they won't be. You can't get a brown low if you get suspended.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But apparently, like from what he's been through that before. From what from from what the news has been saying.
SPEAKER_06:Simple man. I saw a video of his um.
SPEAKER_02:His fiance's in Noosa.
SPEAKER_04:I saw a I saw an article about his fiancee not leaving him.
SPEAKER_06:Oh I well, actually, I don't think that's true because she was in Noosa with her covering off and she was crying on the phone.
SPEAKER_02:Aww. Well she's had a big week. What video did you watch? And also, she's she has had a big week.
SPEAKER_06:And according to Santa Sauce, all their girlfriends have left them.
SPEAKER_02:That's right. That's very good.
SPEAKER_04:Aryan Santa Sauce. Come to me.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:They're all so beautiful. Yeah. It's ridiculous. Yeah. It's ridiculous. Have you seen their girlfriends?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I've seen it. Terribly terribly, terribly sad. Sad for them.
SPEAKER_04:They're all probably influences anyway.
SPEAKER_05:And we had a great run. We went down the Royal. We went to Oddford. Yeah, Janelle texts me. Uh, what's your name? Audsaurus? Audsaurus. Oh, she said she was thinking. Oh, she said, she said I was thinking about Audrey this week and all the young women and how betrayed they must feel. And then she said, because I because I was like, oh, I was worried about what we might do on the day, you know, in case they get into the grand final, but it seems that they've taken care of that for us.
SPEAKER_05:Although they did just win.
SPEAKER_02:So hard to say.
SPEAKER_05:Well I think we should be Brisbane. It's hard it's it's a bit hard though to be. I mean, they were good against North Melbourne. They've got to be good against Gawthorne.
SPEAKER_03:Well good against. No, it might be Brisbane. Brisbane's outcrypto. Again. Brisbane is outcrypton.
SPEAKER_02:We've lost to both Brisbane and Brisbane.
SPEAKER_06:I think we've lost to everybody at the MCG. You can't go out this year.
SPEAKER_03:Those guys are.
SPEAKER_06:And we've lost, we've lost three games, I think. One of them was Hawthorne, one of them was Brisbane.
SPEAKER_05:Porus, please, just have one thing.
SPEAKER_03:Bring them over. Very heavy and very strong.
unknown:Guys.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_04:And and all of our team now seem to be.
SPEAKER_06:It's fine though because if we lose against them, we still get another turn.
SPEAKER_04:Dude, and then apparently that X-Swanse player was in the room as well. Dude, where was our invite, honestly? I feel like everyone's there.
SPEAKER_02:I was asleep. Anyway, we had a great run. We ran for four hours.
SPEAKER_03:Wouldsy broke the fire at the end.
SPEAKER_05:Would she basically got to two and a half kilometres from the end and just went, this? I am over this shit. I'm just gonna send it. No, I didn't have that attitude though.
SPEAKER_06:Did you not? What was your attitude? I didn't know what you were attitude.
SPEAKER_05:All I could do was see the back of you.
SPEAKER_06:I had that attitude, but I wasn't like giving you attitude.
SPEAKER_05:No, you did not give me attitude. Neither did you give me the time of day.
SPEAKER_03:What did you think of? Well, it's like two kilometres. What did you think of, burning palms?
SPEAKER_05:Dave, we can't hear you if you sit over there. You gotta come and see him.
SPEAKER_03:Burning palms.
SPEAKER_05:I don't think Obi. Obi doesn't run. He um performatively runs insofar as that he's gotta pull out 50 kilometres. You forget how tired you get.
SPEAKER_03:No, I actually just don't believe it's that hard. And those are like ease um from Tambarumba and turning up again as well.
SPEAKER_04:They'll see me succeed this time.
unknown:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_05:He succeeded last time. You were fine last time. Oh no, that's right. You winched about your testicles last time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Wasn't the last time they saw him when he pulled up?
SPEAKER_05:No. Oh yeah, at Tumbra at Tumbar Karawira. He's done this exact run before though, and he came in whimpering like a child because his testicles were giving him pain. It's alright.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, anti-slick. But when you spray an anti-slick at the toppas, wow, that stayed there for years. I know. It stays on the throtum for years. Or a few minutes.
SPEAKER_07:Wow.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_05:It's not really anti-slick, is it? It's uh it's slick.
SPEAKER_02:Do you guys grow up Mount Kill Your Nobelist? We go up Kill Yourself and Obelisk, yes. R uh I would say halfway through, maybe towards the end. I can't remember.
SPEAKER_04:I totally can't remember. But it's just like a mountain.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, you spend a bit of time getting up there. Like you spend two kilometres? No, you spend a bit of time getting up there and then the last bit, the last bit's like a the last bit's not very long, but it's very steep, and they've helpfully put a whole lot of rocks there. So it's like trying to climb on um.
SPEAKER_06:Is there no stairs?
SPEAKER_05:No stairs, so it's like trying to climb on um your roller skates, isn't it?
SPEAKER_03:And they have um is that the one where they have the supply and at the at the bottom of that side?
SPEAKER_04:But then but then it's funny because it because it because you get to the top and there's like a car park and there's like a bunch of like Chinese people taking selfies.
SPEAKER_05:But then there's also an aid station. There's an aid station at the top of the mountain.
SPEAKER_04:There's one before the mountain.
SPEAKER_02:Bell or no, there's an aid station at the top of the mountain. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:No, there's not.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:No, there's one below. No, there's a lot of things.
SPEAKER_03:Donna's just below, like 50 metres off. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Is that all you're gonna eat?
SPEAKER_06:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04:We've eaten a lot today. Donna was telling me that um she had two alpacas one time and a fox got in and killed her alpacas. I was like, I was like, are you serious? A fox killed your alpacas, and she was like, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:How big was the fox? How big is the alpaca?
SPEAKER_04:Uh apparently though, she said that she was at in the middle of the night, she had the alpaca scream. Oh. And she went down, and there was this fox like having a go at its jugular. Um, and then Donna and her husband were like beating the shit out of this fox while it was just like like latched onto the jugular of this like um alpaca after it just killed the other one.
SPEAKER_07:Oh.
SPEAKER_04:And then they were beating it up, and then it just like ran away, and then I don't think it ever came back. And she was like, she she she was like, we must have killed it after that because the amount of kicks to its stomach and head and stuff, it must have just been on adrenaline.
SPEAKER_02:Gosh.
SPEAKER_04:Um she was like, we we got a vet over, did it all up, it was perfect. Once it like the last stitch went in, heart attack died.
SPEAKER_02:Oh the alpaca.
SPEAKER_04:Oh just lots that actually.
SPEAKER_02:Was that done?
SPEAKER_06:Nah, I think they can all shredded. Oh no. It's very trouble, Doug.
SPEAKER_04:Doug does do alpacas, though. Doug says that alpacas suck. He's like, alpacas and lamas suck. Yeah, he's like, they spit, they kick, and they smell like shit.
SPEAKER_01:Oh no, but they're so funny looking.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I was like, I was like, no way alpacas smells bad, and he's like, Yeah, they smell like shit. Yeah, of course they do. Look at them.
SPEAKER_06:How do they smell like shit? They only smell like shit if they're into shitty emo.
SPEAKER_04:No, something should smell. Like apparently sugar gliders, my course, in my course today, sugar gliders smell like buns. The dog smells.
SPEAKER_06:Why didn't you need to know that?
SPEAKER_04:Well, I don't know. Well, they have a lot of different so we're doing brush tail possums, ringtail possums. What are the other kind? Shh feather tail glider. Oh glider, squirrel glider. Oh. Lots of different kinds in. Let's have gliders. The feather tail gliders weigh 10 to 15 grams.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Like they're like that big.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Um sugar gliders weigh like 100 grams. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:How do they um are they are there um gliders in Sydney?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Really? You never see one.
SPEAKER_04:If you went out in the middle of the night and you weren't like walking around tree hollowers, you'd probably see one. Oh, let's do that. And they bark.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, do they?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's really cute. Yeah, that's cute.
SPEAKER_02:That's really, really cute.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um we've got to go.
SPEAKER_04:Well, apparently, actually, apparently, if you're walking around and you see a gum tree and it's got like all these scratches on it and there's like tree sap flying from it, it's a sugar glider scratching the tree and then taking the sap, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:No way. So are you not qualified to look after injured wildlife?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Cool, man. Baby possums and sugar gliders.
SPEAKER_06:Talk to this guy who saw a brown snake on the course.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Obi. You said he did a night run a couple of months ago. Where and there was a three-meter brown snake.
SPEAKER_02:Black as the ace of spades.
SPEAKER_03:He just said it was so huge he had to bat he just. He actually had to run back. He couldn't do and he was pretty game, like he didn't look like a cat.
SPEAKER_06:No, he did not fuck around.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:He it wouldn't let him pass. He had to run all the way back the way he came.
SPEAKER_04:I reckon you just like tap it with a stick and it says it was I think he definitely tried. He said it was super aggressive.
SPEAKER_06:This man definitely tried. This man tried everything. And he's got his he's got his poles.
SPEAKER_02:He had poles, yeah, that's true. Oh, cool.
SPEAKER_06:I had a video idea when you're on a run. Oh, yeah. You have to go to the rock. Just because we ran on the beach a little bit, noise.
SPEAKER_05:We ran past some rock poles, and Aussie was like, this could be POV. You're on a training run, but you get distracted by the rock poles.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Oh man. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.
SPEAKER_04:Is that the song you use?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Literally like a hundred percent success rate on that.
SPEAKER_02:That is so true. You have had a lot of success with that song.
SPEAKER_05:Pharrell.
SPEAKER_02:He's the sponsor.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, is that Pharrell? So he the little boy he so he he assimilated to Donna said he just thought he was a dog.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I was just don't mean anything. Oh, just going in amongst the dogs.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Does follow the dogs around a bit. Oh, she's so many dogs. She has so many everything.
SPEAKER_04:13. Oh wow, 13 dogs.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:They're all like rescues.
SPEAKER_05:Oh. Is he nebulous? He's nebulous. Wow.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, I love a great dane.
SPEAKER_04:I love the video, but it's actually so glitchy.
SPEAKER_05:Oh. She's very sweet though.
SPEAKER_06:That grey dane is so cute.
SPEAKER_05:In the I've eaten too much food and had a movical kind of way.
SPEAKER_06:And said meat look.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, okay. Cool. I was gonna give her a feed.
SPEAKER_02:She's so asleep.
SPEAKER_04:I don't think so.
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_04:He's fine. Number one!
SPEAKER_02:No, don't number name.
SPEAKER_06:He does kinda.
SPEAKER_04:Got no thoughts. That was kinda, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Like scenarios, you always say he kind of goes.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, he looks at you. But then But you said he had good manners.
SPEAKER_04:Oh really?
SPEAKER_05:Isn't that what you said?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Our baby's got good manners.
SPEAKER_04:He said that he was just like really, really like kind and like positive. It's like a berry, like he just wasn't he just wasn't like rude to other animals or like noisy or like destructive.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, he isn't. Oh, he's a good boy. Yeah, she said he was very good.
SPEAKER_04:She actually said she was like, um, she was like, oh, I might ask.
SPEAKER_06:Oh antagonise.
SPEAKER_04:Dad, I know, I know. Well she was like, if he doesn't get accepted, he was already teary when Karen Callum Mills was teary. Were you actually?
SPEAKER_05:Callum Mills. Callum Mills got teary. Are you joking?
SPEAKER_06:I love Callum Mills.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Hello, baby.
SPEAKER_06:Now all the all the teams are like vulturing over our people.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, there was some players.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, he's a team. Yeah. They already talked two of our best players.
SPEAKER_03:Oh who?
SPEAKER_06:Uh Will Haywood and Ollie Clorin. Give me fucking his name, but I really liked him. He was number 13. Yeah, Will Haywood, he was number nine. How do you know the name of the time? Justin Holly's crazy. Because I am actually a fan.
SPEAKER_04:Where did Danny Rauhaus go? No. He didn't play Play.
SPEAKER_02:No, he didn't play Play.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, he was on Interchange.
SPEAKER_04:Did he get did he get like put down a bit?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:He's just struggling for form.
SPEAKER_02:Really? Because he had that one game. Yeah, but we were there. Where he scored like five fucking goals or something.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, he did. Oh, but then like was he kind of struggling after that?
SPEAKER_06:What's his name? Malcolm.
SPEAKER_04:Malcolm Roses Jr. Great note.
SPEAKER_06:Nah, he's I feel like he's drives wrong.
SPEAKER_04:Drive strong, excuse me.
SPEAKER_06:Excuse me, please. He's very good, like when he's good, but he wasn't consistently good. But he was a cockloves of the FL and it really whips him back into shape because who was our other guy that went? Um Hayden McLean?
SPEAKER_05:No, the old guy, remember? Who was our old guy who went?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, Cunningham went.
SPEAKER_05:No, no, no, the old guy. Uh our player who had been with us for ages, but he was quite old. He doesn't play for him. Harry Cunningham. No. What are you talking about? Keep saying another name. No. Wasn't he a naughty name?
SPEAKER_06:You give us like any more contacts.
SPEAKER_03:Dane's never been in.
SPEAKER_05:No, I know it was not Dane Rampy. No, he had a pointy face. Like I would say I would say a handsome face-ish.
SPEAKER_06:And wait, does he play now?
SPEAKER_05:No, it doesn't play now. Too old. But it was almost he was a naughty boy. Was he walled? He was in trouble. No, he had hair.
SPEAKER_03:Oh no, no, he's playing for North Melbourne now.
SPEAKER_05:You're thinking of um Yeah, but I've explained it sufficiently.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, what's your reading?
SPEAKER_05:Oh well I've said I've explained it sufficiently so that dad knows who I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_04:Oh please, please, please. Just like anyone, bro. My parents died.
SPEAKER_05:No, um, Swan's players emotional after beating North Melbourne. Fans leave before men's game. Oh. Right. That's really dude. Just to dare you down.
SPEAKER_03:That was a little bit, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_06:What's the little thing on the top of your phone case?
SPEAKER_05:To um open this bit here? Yeah. To open the it the case clicks together, so it's uh open the case.
SPEAKER_03:I thought it was a microphone jack, like an old microphone jack.
SPEAKER_04:I wonder how many people went into the men's game.
SPEAKER_05:30,000.
SPEAKER_04:13? 13.
SPEAKER_05:30,058, it said. What is the motto of the scout movement? Bip bop bat, isn't it? No. Bing bong bing bong bing. What do they do? They do something like that.
SPEAKER_04:To serve, protect, and explore. Is that what it is?
SPEAKER_05:That's um, that's a star. That's Star Trek. That's America. Does anybody know Scouts? America.
SPEAKER_03:Oh. And dip dip doub.
SPEAKER_05:That's what that's what I was trying to do. Bing bong bing.
SPEAKER_03:What's the motto?
SPEAKER_06:That's not my motto. What are you saying? Oh my god.
SPEAKER_05:For people listening, I'm also holding three fingers to my head.
SPEAKER_06:You look like Catus Everden at the repeat.
SPEAKER_05:Be prepared. Oh, is that Katnis Everden?
SPEAKER_06:Three fingers! Why have you got a count? Because I was doing monkey magic.
SPEAKER_05:Dad got it. True or false? Most lizards cannot run and breathe at the same time. I think that's true. How lizard can run? I think it's true. I'm saying it's true. It's true. Who is the only swimmer to have held every long course world record, freestyle record from 100 to 1500? Michael Phelps. Simultaneously, it's probably Michael.
SPEAKER_06:Katie Ludaki.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, could we Ludeki?
SPEAKER_06:Wait, what's the what's what's potum? So what's the Shane Goo?
SPEAKER_05:Oh, sorry, Shane. Guess what, buddy? I can go outside, but not you. Which is not an aboriginal word? Boomerang, didgeridoo, or kangaroo? Ooh. Boomerang. I think boomerang.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, that's our Australian English version.
SPEAKER_05:Digeridoo. Which Australian banknote is referred to as a pineapple? The 50?
SPEAKER_04:The 50. 50. Yeah, what else could it be?
SPEAKER_05:Co-written by Marquetta Urglover and the late Glen Hansard. The Oscar winning song Falling Slowly is in which 2007 film? Oh, I think I might need it.
SPEAKER_03:He's from the Glen Hansard's from the Irish band called The Frames. Yeah, one of my favourite songs ever.
SPEAKER_06:Is that the name of the movie?
SPEAKER_03:Uh and the movie is. Oh, he falls in love with a Polish lady. And I think they actually fall in love in real life. Is this Sophia's Choice? No, it's not Sophia's Choice. Sophia's Choice. Sophie. Um, it is uh he passed away.
SPEAKER_05:Mom on your own. Are we coming back? Mom, I think he's passed away. Oh wow. Goodness, is that normal? Is that a normal way to be sleeping? Can you take a photo of that, please? I'll take a photo of that and I'll put it on the podcast like little thing. People need to see Don a goat giver. Once it was called. LeBron, what are you doing?
SPEAKER_02:No leaving me sleeping.
unknown:What?
SPEAKER_05:Oh yeah. That was a great book. That was an amazing book. That was Morris Gleitzman. What is the largest city in New Zealand's South Island? Surely it's Christchurch. Hobbiton.
SPEAKER_03:In Vicaro.
SPEAKER_05:Hobbiton. Christchurch. Guess what is the population of Christchurch?
SPEAKER_04:4,000 sheep. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_06:Because it's 420. It is 420,000 people.
SPEAKER_05:It's basically the population of Knox Grammar School. Okay. You're gonna have to read because I have to go and book now. Hold on. What? Oh no, my tongue. My tongue is now sore. On which day is the weekly congressional prayer known as that? Can you read that? I have to, I have to, I'll be back.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. On which day is the weekly congregational prayer known as Juma'a held in Islam? Is it uh yeah. When you're guess that day or Sunday. Friday.
SPEAKER_06:Are we here?
SPEAKER_03:Friday?
SPEAKER_06:I know it was Friday! I knew it was Friday!
SPEAKER_03:Alright, what which catching cat's catch for age was? Suffren Socrates.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, uh oh, I actually know that.
SPEAKER_03:It's not darkwood, is it?
SPEAKER_04:I was about to call him Gargo Mel.
SPEAKER_06:Is it the one that chases the mouse?
SPEAKER_03:Tom and Jerry. No! Tom and Jerry, I don't think Tom and.
SPEAKER_04:Oh no, is it uh is it No? No! Is it is it the uh the what's he called? The one that can like the Cheshire's cat.
SPEAKER_03:Uh no, no, I don't think so.
SPEAKER_06:Why don't we guess that?
SPEAKER_03:Who is it? I think it's this I think it's this cat called Top Cat.
SPEAKER_04:I really feel like I've heard somebody say that before. Can I believe that? If it's if it's the Jeshy cat, I'm gonna jump with Joy.
SPEAKER_03:I'll just see if that's it. Sylvester! Oh my god, I can't believe I didn't get Sylvester. We're getting so bad. Who's Sylvester? He's the one that hangs out with with Tweety Bird and his Warner Brothers.
SPEAKER_06:What is Socratash? A type of moonshine whiskey and Native American dish for an old word for rheumatism. Stoccata.
SPEAKER_04:Stuccatache is like a is a is is it is it an American dish?
SPEAKER_06:Native American?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:It is.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:In which Shakespeare play is jealousy referred to as the green eyed monster?
SPEAKER_03:Which which play? Shakespeare. Is that offella? I hate Shakespeare.
SPEAKER_06:Yes it is! In Australia, what is the legal?
SPEAKER_04:I did that whole play for the legal amount of caffeine and energy. Well they called them the canoe something.
unknown:Shh.
SPEAKER_06:The legal amount of caffeine and energy jokes. 150 milligrams per litre, 275 milligrams per litre, or 320 milligrams.
SPEAKER_02:300. I bet it was 320 milligrams per litre. Yes.
SPEAKER_06:TV series rubbers. Do you do you drink energy jokes?
unknown:No.
SPEAKER_02:No, revolting.
SPEAKER_06:I can't think of any drink.
SPEAKER_05:Did you have one when you did taroera?
SPEAKER_06:Well, I know I've had a bowl of Red Bull.
SPEAKER_03:Wow. Pretty good. I had a Red Bull.
SPEAKER_06:I had a Red Bull when I did Taroira. People are so obsessed with Red Bull. Like actually obsessed. People are like, oh, I have like five Red Bulls a week or something like that. Maybe a day. Hi, what's wrong? I'm like, it does not taste nice. What's up? The TV series Scrublins and Treasure and Dirt of the Adaptive. I know Chris Hammer.
SPEAKER_03:Nice.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. What word can precede stroke, bone, and ground to form new words?
SPEAKER_05:Are we gonna get this?
SPEAKER_06:It's gonna be one word. Like it's gotta turn into a broken bone as two words. Oh I see we forms a new word.
SPEAKER_05:Some bones actually quite easy when you when you when you know when you when you when you know the answer, it's really easy. Can we come back?
SPEAKER_06:Which illegal delicacy was a former president of France Francois Matterin's final meal.
SPEAKER_04:Oh I think. Oh, is it gonna be um uh uh foie bois?
SPEAKER_06:We we've eaten foie bois.
SPEAKER_04:I know, but I think it's kinda I think it's like getting more illegal.
SPEAKER_06:It's all tollin, a tiny songburn drowned in brandy in Eden Hall.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, that's cross.
SPEAKER_06:Which sporting stadium is Australia's largest budget numbers?
SPEAKER_03:Sporting no stadium.
SPEAKER_06:According to Greek mythology, what type of creature was Polyphemous?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, Cyclop.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah. In terms of a supermarket chain, what does I stand for?
SPEAKER_02:Independent Grocers Association, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Independent grocers of Australia.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_06:I'm giving it to you.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you.
SPEAKER_06:In reference to beer, what does it mean to split the G?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, you know this?
SPEAKER_06:Guinness. Luxury tax, chance, and jail are parts of winter board changing it.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I'm Monopoly.
SPEAKER_06:Reaching lengths of 13 to 15 metres, the prehistoric Titanaboa.
SPEAKER_04:Titanaboa?
SPEAKER_06:Oh sorry. So is it a snake?
SPEAKER_04:Snake? Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:In the 1956 film The Ten Commandments, it's the Ten Dual Commandments. Charlton Heston played Moses as well as voicing which other characters.
SPEAKER_03:God, surely. It's gonna be God.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. What starting with B is the cotton plant seed pod.
SPEAKER_01:Tell us. It's bowl. Bowl? Bowl. B O double.
SPEAKER_06:As of July 9th, 2026, DJT is the IATA code for which album. David John Thomas or Donald Trump.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Is it like Miami or something? Do you think it's America?
SPEAKER_04:He's renamed it.
SPEAKER_05:Oh. Yeah, is it gonna be where where yeah, where is my logo? Is it Dallas?
SPEAKER_04:Dallas Fort Worth. Palm Beach Forgotten.
SPEAKER_06:It's in Palm Beach Florida. I'm giving myself that.
SPEAKER_04:With Jeff Yep filling all the kids. Okay, what's the bone?
SPEAKER_02:Palm beach. Oh, is it the end? Yeah. Okay, what's the bottom? Oh the bone says stroke? Probone, no. No, I don't really. Stroke. I like strombone. Is it easy once you know? Yeah. It's obvious once you know. Like then to swim. Oh, breastbone.
SPEAKER_06:There is a breastbone. Breast stroke? Is there breast ground? Butterfly. What's the only other one that you haven't said? Why you be what did you call him? Why being so vague? Oh background.
SPEAKER_05:Well, that took about two. Did you count that as right? Did you?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:What time? Alright, can you pot us out so we can turn you away?
SPEAKER_00:Okay, my buddies burning out.
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