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OrgDev with Distinction

by Dani Bacon and Garin Rouch · English · Business

The Org Dev podcast is all about Organisational Development, a practice that has the power to transform organisations, shape cultures, and empower individuals. Yet, it's often shrouded in mystery and misunderstood. But fear not, because on this podcast, we pull back the curtain to reveal the inner w

New episodes: Weekly
Typical length: 1 hr
Latest: 2 Oct 2026
Language: English

Latest episode

2 Oct 2026 · 1 hr 11 min

How to Make Change Happen with Dr Aidan Harney Valerie Yeo Jules Siegal-Hawley - OrgDev Live Conference

We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Practical lessons on organisational change, change leadership and making transformation stick. Organisational change is rarely as straightforward as change management models suggest. Even well-intentioned transformation can create uncertainty, resistance, loss, competing priorities and unintended consequences. In this session from the Org Dev Live conference, Dr Aidan Harney, Jules Siegel-Hawley and Valerie Yeo explore the realities of leadin...

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S8 · E107 · 18 Sep 2026 · 1 hr 8 min
Mapping the Invisible - The Hidden Dynamics of Organisations with Dr Ty Francis
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Most organisation development work focuses on what we can see: structures, behaviours, processes, strategy and culture. But some of the forces shaping organisations sit beneath the surface — in relationships, patterns, loyalties, tensions and dynamics that people can often feel without being able to clearly name. In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we’re joined by Dr Ty Francis to explore systemic constellations and what they can reveal ab...
15 Sep 2026 · 53 min
Complexity - Leading Change in an Uncertain World with Dr Jean Boulton - OrgDev Live Conference
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! We’ve started the process of editing and releasing the recordings from OrgDev Live 2026 and in this session, Dr Jean Boulton explores what complexity thinking means for how we understand organisations, make decisions and approach change in uncertain environments. Alongside each session, we’re also creating a short two-page takeaway summary - not as an attempt to reduce a rich 50-minute conversation to a handful of neat answers but as a way of c...
S8 · E106 · 7 Aug 2026 · 1 hr
Time to Think and the Power of the Thinking Environment with Maryse Barak
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it take to create a space where people can think clearly, independently and well? In this episode of OrgDev with Garin & Dani, we speak with Maryse Barak, a member of the global Faculty of Time to Think, about the power of the Thinking Environment. We explore why the quality of people’s thinking is shaped by the conditions around them, and why attention, equality, ease and powerful questions matter so much in leadership, coachin...
S7 · E105 · 29 May 2026 · 30 min
Whole Scale Change in Complex Organisations with Dr. Paul Tolchinsky
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it really take to create large-scale organisational change that lasts? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we speak with Paul Tolchinsky - pioneer of Whole-Scale™ Change, cofounder of the European Organisation Design Forum (EODF) and one of the most influential voices in large-system transformation and organisation design. Drawing on more than four decades of experience, Paul shares lessons from working with organisations around th...
S7 · E104 · 8 May 2026 · 1 hr 1 min
Leaders Think They’re Driving Change - So Why Isn’t It Landing with Rupert Brown
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Why do so many transformation and change programmes fail to deliver in practice – even when the strategy looks solid? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we explore why organisational change breaks down during execution, and what leaders, HR and organisation development practitioners can do to make change actually stick. We look at the gap between strategy and reality – from leadership alignment and decision-making to the lived experience o...
S7 · E103 · 2 May 2026 · 1 hr 5 min
Workplace Conflct - What Smart Leaders Do Differently with Rick Buccheri I|
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we’re joined by Rick Buccheri, an organisational development practitioner based in New York, to explore conflict, collaboration and the real work of change. Drawing on his experience in organisational consulting and conflict resolution, Rick shares how tension shows up beneath the surface of teams - and what it takes to engage with it productively. We discuss why conflict is often avoided or mishandled, h...
S7 · E102 · 24 Apr 2026 · 58 min
The Hidden Leadership Power of Endings with Lizzie Bentley Bowers and Alison Lucas
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How do leaders handle endings well - and why do so many organisations rush past them? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we speak with Lizzie Bentley Bowers and Alison Lucas about one of the most overlooked aspects of leadership and organisational change: endings. Many organisations focus on launches, growth, restructures, mergers and new strategies. Far less attention is given to what is being left behind - projects ending, team changes,...
S7 · E101 · 17 Apr 2026 · 1 hr
Leading Change in a Human Way with Gareth Evans
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it take to support people and organisations working under pressure, complexity, and trauma? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we welcome Gareth Evans, Lead for Specialist Organisational Development at Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board. A facilitator, coach, and thought leader in relational and trauma-informed OD, Gareth is the developer of the Conversational Spaces Framework and co-developer of the OD Practice Framework fo...
S6 · E100 · 10 Apr 2026 · 1 hr 4 min
Adaptive Action - Human Systems Dynamics with Glenda Eoyang - Orgdev Episode 100
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Most organisations are still managed as if they can be controlled, predicted and engineered into success. But what if that assumption is the problem? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we explore a different way of seeing organisations - not as machines to optimise, but as complex human systems that are constantly shifting, adapting, and responding to their environment. If you’re dealing with messy change, unclear direction, or patterns th...
S6 · E99 · 1 Apr 2026 · 1 hr 5 min
The Workplace Productivity Trap - Dynamic Work Design wirth Nelson Repenning MIT OrgDev Episode 99
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Why do so many organisations struggle to improve productivity - even when they invest heavily in strategy, transformation and new ways of working? Nelson Repenning, co-author of There’s Got to Be a Better Way, describes the hidden systems that shape how work actually gets done. Drawing on decades of research at MIT and real-world organisational transformation, Nelson unpacks why well-intentioned improvements often fail - and what leaders can d...
S6 · E98 · 26 Mar 2026 · 59 min
The Real Reason Strategy Fails with Stefan Cousquer - OrgDev Episode 98
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Why do leadership teams say the future matters - and then fail to make time for it? This episode examines a common pattern inside organisations: strong strategies, but limited execution. We explore how top teams prioritise, make decisions, and enable strategic change, and why leadership effectiveness is often constrained not by capability, but by how time, attention, and work are structured. Here are the links to Stefan’s latest editorials: W...
S6 · E97 · 13 Mar 2026 · 1 hr 13 min
Leadership in Complex Systems with Dr Jean Boulton - OrgDev Episode 97
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! In this episode, Dr Jean Boulton joins us to explore how ideas from complexity science can help leaders understand strategy, power and change in uncertain environments. What really drives change in organisations - and what quietly kills it? Why do some initiatives gain traction while others fade away, even when the intent is strong? Originally trained as a physicist and now a strategy practitioner, Jean brings a distinctive perspective o...
S6 · E96 · 27 Feb 2026 · 1 hr
Is Your HR Operating Model Set Up to Win ? with Perry Timms - OrgDev Episode 96
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Why has HR’s operating model barely changed in 25 years – while everything around it has? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we speak with Perry Timms about the uncomfortable truth at the heart of modern HR: we’ve spent decades optimising processes instead of redesigning how HR actually works. As organisations evolve at pace – driven by digital transformation, new workforce expectations, agility, and shifting power dynamics – many HR func...
S6 · E9 · 24 Feb 2026 · 1 hr 11 min
Clear Leadership, Real change with Gervase Bushe - OrgDev Episode 95
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What if organisations can’t be engineered into better performance — only invited into change? We’re joined by Gervase Bushe, one of the most influential contemporary thinkers in Organisation Development and a leading voice in dialogic OD. For decades, many change efforts have assumed that if we design the right structure, define the right process and implement the right plan, performance will follow. Bushe’s work challenges that assumption. D...
S6 · E94 · 19 Feb 2026 · 43 min
Design Your Organisation for an AI Driven Future - Omar Morales Microsoft - OrgDev Episode 94
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does organisation development look like when AI, complexity and constant transformation become the norm rather than the exception? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we’re joined by Omar Morales, Head of Organisation Development at Microsoft, to explore how organisations design for adaptability, leadership resilience, and sustained performance in fast-moving environments. Drawing on nearly two decades of global experience across organ...
S6 · E93 · 13 Feb 2026 · 48 min
Understanding Complexity with Dave Snowden - OrgDev Episode 93
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How to apply complexity thinking in your organisation If we can’t reliably predict what will happen in our organisations, can’t control outcomes in any simple way, and can’t even agree on what’s true – how do we lead? That’s the territory explored in this conversation with Dave Snowden. We move beyond tidy change models and into the realities of uncertainty, distributed knowledge and contested meaning. This episode challenges the instinct to s...
S6 · E92 · 23 Jan 2026 · 1 hr 8 min
Essential Guide to High Growth and Strategy with Rupert Morrison - OrgDev Epsiode 92
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Strategy is one of the most overused words in organisational life – and one of the least well understood. In this conversation with Rupert Morrison, we explore what strategy actually means, who really owns it, and why so many organisations struggle not with ambition, but with focus. We talk about why strategies so often turn into shopping lists, why prioritisation is harder than it looks, and how pace, culture, and execution collide once a stra...
S6 · E91 · 16 Jan 2026 · 55 min
Stop Educating Start Learning - The Secret to Performance with Nick Shackleton-Jones OrgDev Episode 91
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! This week on the OrgDev Podcast we’re joined by the brilliantly provocative Nick Shackleton-Jones, a guest who never fails to challenge how organisations think about learning. Nick brings energy, clarity and a healthy dose of disruption as he unpicks why so much workplace learning fails to change behaviour and what actually works instead. He shares a rallying cry of resources not courses along with stories about simulations and onboarding...
S5 · E90 · 15 Jan 2026 · 31 min
Organisation Development Pro Tips for Improving Performance - Part 2 - OrgDev Episode 90
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Top tips from leading Organisation Development and Design Experts This is part 2 of a special highlights episode. This year has been a big one for us. We recorded 44 episodes, and the podcast reached listeners in 109 countries. Our guests joined us from as far afield as California, Spain and Australia – as well as Austria, the Netherlands and Sweden, and together we covered a broad spectrum of practice – from neuroscience and psychological sa...
S5 · E89 · 9 Jan 2026 · 36 min
Organisation Development Pro Tips for Improving Performance - Part 1 - OrgDev Episode 89
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! op tips from leading Organisation Development and Design Experts This is a special highlights episode.This year has been a big one for us. We recorded 44 episodes, and the podcast reached listeners in 109 countries. Our guests joined us from as far afield as California, Spain and Australia – as well as Austria, the Netherlands and Sweden, and together we covered a broad spectrum of practice – from neuroscience and psychological safety, to syst...
S5 · E88 · 19 Dec 2025 · 1 hr 3 min
Leading with Purpose, Not Control with Dr Louise Van Rhyn - OrgDev Episode 88
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does leadership look like when it’s driven by purpose rather than control? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we’re joined by Dr Louise Van Rhyn, social entrepreneur, leadership and organisation development practitioner, and founder of Symphonia. Louise shares powerful insights from more than four decades of practice working with leaders, organisations and large-scale social change initiatives across South Africa and beyond. We explore...
S5 · E86 · 9 Dec 2025 · 1 hr 5 min
Why Transformation Fails - And What Works with Dr Gwen Stirling Wilkie - OrgDev Episode 86
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Why Do Transformations and Change Fail - And What Can Leaders Do About It? Where do leaders go when the map runs out – when the terrain ahead is shifting faster than they can chart it? Today on the OrgDev Podcast, we’re stepping into the space where the known meets the unknown, and where transformation takes root. In this episode. we’ll hear how Gwen blends rigour and relationality, why she believes leadership must be both human-centred a...
S5 · E87 · 9 Dec 2025 · 58 min
Design Thinking for Real-World Workplace Problems with Giles Wright - OrgDev Episode 87
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How Can Design Thinking Solve Your Organisation's Most Intractable Problems? Design thinking has transformed how we approach products and services - but what does it really look like when we apply it to people, culture, and organisations? How do we move from post-it notes and empathy maps to real organisational change? To explore the intersection between design thinking and organisation development, we’re joined by Giles Wright – an...
S5 · E85 · 28 Nov 2025 · 53 min
Rethinking Leadership When the World Won't Behave with Professor Chris Mowles - OrgDev Episode 85
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Is it time to rethink leadership and management? Many leaders work under the illusion that they can control what goes on but in reality organisations are messy, and unpredictable. So what does this Complexity really means for how organisations function, how leaders make decisions, and how people navigate uncertainty. One person who has challenged the neat models and tidy solutions we often reach for – instead opens up more real, human, a...
S5 · E84 · 20 Nov 2025 · 56 min
How to Deliver Strategy at Scale with Maria Farres Cancer Research UK - orgdev episode 84
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it take to deliver on an ambitious strategy – especially in a mission-driven organisation where the stakes are high and capacity is limited? How do you align people, processes, and systems to deliver on the organisation's ambitions? Our guest this week is the Maria Farres, Director of Organisational Development & Employee Experience at Cancer Research UK, where she leads work on org. development, leadership & talent, EDI, empl...
S5 · E83 · 14 Nov 2025 · 1 hr
Leading Transformation and Change with Sophy Pern Ammalo - OrgDev Episode 83
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What really derails a change project – the plan, or the relationships behind it? Our guest today, Sophy Pern, has spent her career helping leaders and teams untangle the relational dynamics that quietly shape whether strategy and change succeed or stall. An international consultant, facilitator and executive coach, she works with executive leaders on strategy engagement, organisation design, operating models, culture change and team development...
S5 · E82 · 31 Oct 2025 · 1 hr 3 min
Master the Art and Science of Organisation Design and Change with Jaimini Lakhani - OrgDev Episode 82
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How do you make sure your organisation’s design is truly fit for purpose – not just neat on paper, but aligned to the strategy your future depends on? And how do you work with senior leaders in a way that builds real trust – so you can understand how value is created in their world, and the tough trade-offs that come with redesigning it? Today we’re joined by Jaimini Lakhani – founder of Lumiere Consulting and a leading expert in organisation...
S5 · E81 · 24 Oct 2025 · 1 hr 9 min
The Power of Presence - Inner work of the OD Practitioner with Dr Frances Baldwin - OrgDev Episode 81
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What separates good OD practice from great OD practice – skill, strategy, or self-awareness? You can have the tools. The models. The frameworks. But what really shapes your impact as an OD practitioner? According to Dr Frances Baldwin, it’s not what you do – it’s who you are. Frances has been shaping the field of Organisation Development for more than five decades. Yet when you ask her what truly makes a difference in this work, she doesn’t s...
S4 · E80 · 12 Sep 2025 · 50 min
How to Tackle Stubborn Business Problems with Phil Lewis - OrgDev Episode 80
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How to Solve Complex Business Problems? Organisations are not machines – and they certainly don’t run on machine logic. Solving the toughest business problems isn’t about pulling levers or rewriting process charts. It’s about people: how they work together, how they make sense of their world, and how they feel. But people don’t operate in neat, predictable ways. We delete, distort, and generalise the reality around us – which makes organisatio...

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Publisher: Dani Bacon and Garin Rouch
Language: English
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Typical length: 1 hr
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