12 Oct 2026 · 32 minNew
Josh Frydenberg's plan to keep speaking out
The former treasurer and deputy Liberal leader said he's still deciding whether to make a political comeback, which he'll announce in the new year.
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S1 · E515 · 8 Oct 2026 · 1 hr 7 min
Why Victoria's unpredictable election matters nationally
Premier Ben Carroll, Opposition Leader Jess Wilson, One Nation's Colleen Harkin and pollster Tony Barry preview November 28's closely watched election.
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S1 · E514 · 30 Sep 2026 · 25 min
Tim Wilson says government is borrowing from the future to spend today
The shadow treasurer also blames government spending for inflation and says the Coalition would not 'spend willy-nilly' if elected.
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S1 · E513 · 22 Sep 2026 · 26 min
Jim Chalmers warns rising debt bills are set to hit the budget
The treasurer says there's 'likely to be billions of dollars extra' in higher bills on government debt in December's budget update.
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S1 · E512 · 17 Sep 2026 · 22 min
Matt Canavan on combatting One Nation.
The Nationals leader said he'll do 'whatever it takes' to beat the Labor government – including not ruling out a move to the lower house before the next election.
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S1 · E511 · 9 Sep 2026 · 33 min
Chris Bowen on co-hosting COP and Australia's renewables target
The environment minister has fought back against criticisms that very few world leaders will attend the pre-COP meeting in the Pacific.
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S1 · E510 · 3 Sep 2026 · 29 min
Sarah Hanson-Young on why progressives need to 'take on' One Nation
The Greens' longest serving federal politician said politics 'isn't working' for ordinary voters and all parties need to do better at addressing their grievances.
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S1 · E509 · 27 Aug 2026 · 25 min
Politics with Michelle Grattan: Andrew Charlton's warning on data centres' impact on power bills
Speaking before the National Cabinet meeting ended, the cabinet secretary warned household bills are likely to rise if data centres are powered by coal or gas.
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S1 · E508 · 18 Aug 2026 · 24 min
One Nation's David Farley on the migrants his party wants
Farley described One Nation's immigration target as more complex than its official 130,000 figure, estimating about 40,000 more 'rotating' migrants were also needed.
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S1 · E507 · 5 Aug 2026 · 30 min
Sally McManus on how AI could force future cuts to HECS debts and work hours
The outgoing union leader said that beyond the new Victorian royal commission, 'a lot more needs to be done' to fight corruption in construction Australia-wide.
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S1 · E506 · 29 Jul 2026 · 26 min
Bridie O'Donnell on the 'precarious business' of the Tour de France
The ex-champion cyclist turned commentator explains why heat is a growing risk to the annual summer event, and points to some Australian women to watch this weekend.
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S1 · E505 · 23 Jul 2026 · 23 min
Paul Kelly on why Albanese is 'misunderstood' and Taylor needs to stay
In more than 50 years of covering federal politics, The Australian's editor-at-large says he has 'never seen a crisis' like the one facing the Liberal Party today.
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S1 · E504 · 15 Jul 2026 · 26 min
Wayne Swan on a 'dramatically different' political contest
The outgoing Labor president explains why no votes can be taken for granted in a time of 'anxiety and insecurity'.
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S1 · E503 · 8 Jul 2026 · 26 min
Andrew Wilkie on the need to go harder to curb gambling advertising
Long-time gambling reform advocate Andrew Wilkie says a reason the government is being timid on the issue is because of close relationships with affected industries.
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S1 · E502 · 2 Jul 2026 · 31 min
Julian Leeser on fighting an 'explosion' of hate in Australia
The Liberal frontbencher is the opposition’s leading Jewish voice and will soon appear at the royal commission on antisemitism.
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S1 · E501 · 25 Jun 2026 · 29 min
Jenny McAllister on why NDIS reforms are being delayed
The NDIS minister joined the podcast to discuss the government's reforms – and what the changes mean for 160,000 Australians.
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S1 · E500 · 18 Jun 2026 · 41 min
Jonno Duniam on guilt and relief about quitting politics
The departing Liberal frontbencher also said it's 'mad' to be talking about doing deals with One Nation so far from an election. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode.
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S1 · E499 · 10 Jun 2026 · 30 min
Pollster Simon Welsh on One Nation's rise and Victoria's 'very messy' election
The pollster also warns any move to replace Victorian premier Jacinta Allan before the November state election would be a 'disaster' for Labor. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode.
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S1 · E498 · 3 Jun 2026 · 34 min
Graeme Samuel on 'doomsday' attacks on the federal budget
The businessman and former competition chief says the fierce criticism of what he calls 'mild' budget changes shows why politicians have avoided reform for decades. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
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S1 · E497 · 27 May 2026 · 27 min
Keith Wolahan on when Liberals should preference One Nation
The moderate Liberal, who lost his seat last year, said his party was now 'fighting for its existence' – and can't ignore the need to work with One Nation. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
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S1 · E496 · 20 May 2026 · 17 min
Margaret Thornton on the landmark Tickle v Giggle transgender case
The anti-discrimination expert explains what the case was about, why it's set for an appeal -- and the broader implications if the decision stands. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode.
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S1 · E495 · 14 May 2026 · 15 min
Jim Chalmers says 'we're in the cart' for more tax relief
The treasurer joined us on the podcast to defend his fifth budget, explaining the 'new architecture' to make future tax cuts easier 'when the budget can afford it'. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Search for "The Making of One Nation" - new episodes out weekly. The Making of One Nation
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S1 · E494 · 13 May 2026 · 15 min
Tim Wilson on the budget's hidden hits on young Australians
The shadow treasurer plans to fight Labor's tax changes, arguing they would increase pressure on rents and 'kneecap' young Australians trying to get ahead. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode.
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S1 · E493 · 5 May 2026 · 23 min
Alan Kohler says Labor's tax changes probably won't lower house prices
The finance journalist says changes to capital gains tax concessions and negative gearing are only likely to have a 'symbolic effect' on housing affordability. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Search for "The Making of One Nation" - new episodes out weekly. The Making of One Nation Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
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S1 · E492 · 29 Apr 2026 · 39 min
Antony Green on how Farrer's 'breakout' by-election will make history
One of the frontrunners in the historic by-election, independent Michelle Milthorpe, as well as One Nation MP Barnaby Joyce, also joined us on the podcast. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Search for "The Making of One Nation" - new episodes out weekly. The Making of One Nation
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S1 · E491 · 21 Apr 2026 · 30 min
Former minister Ed Husic on why Labor must 'stare down' gas companies over tax
The former cabinet minister said Australians have been 'sold short' by not taxing gas exports enough. Mentioned in this episode: The Making of One Nation Follow the Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
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S1 · E490 · 16 Apr 2026 · 25 min
Economist Chris Richardson on next steps in fuel crisis
We speak to independent economist Chris Richardson on the fuel crisis and the Australian economy. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Search for "The Making of One Nation" - new episodes out weekly. The Making of One Nation
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S1 · E489 · 1 Apr 2026 · 26 min
The Making of One Nation: enter the outside
Nearly thirty years on, Hanson's infamous maiden speech — warning that Australia was "being swamped by Asians" — still echoes through Australian political life. But who was Pauline Hanson before she became a phenomenon, and what did she actually represent? Was she a cause of a new kind of politics, or a symptom of one already forming? Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025
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S1 · E488 · 23 Mar 2026 · 30 min
Rory Medcalf on Australians' growing national security fears
The security expert says there's been a 'disturbing' rise in Australians' anxiety about national security over the past two years. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow The Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. The Making of One Nation
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S1 · E487 · 16 Mar 2026 · 1 hr 4 min
Farrer by-election tests One Nation
Ahead of the May 9 by-election, hear from candidates and locals about the early frontrunners to win Farrer – long held by former Liberal leader Sussan Ley. Mentioned in this episode: Your support matters Support non-profit journalism you can trust. Donations 2025 The Making of One Nation Follow The Making of One Nation so you don't miss an episode. The Making of One Nation
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