Church & State - Projects Meridian, Muse and Mayhem

0:12Speaker 1:Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city of a different kind. Councilman Caleb Collier says that this proposal... I'm proposing that the city of Spokane Valley issue a proclamation stating that our city is a Second Amendment sanctuary. Welcome to the fire. Welcome to the fire. Today on Church and State, projects Meridian, Muse, and Mayhem. Hello, Christian Patriots, and welcome to Church and State, where we drive morality and religion over tolerance and apathy.

0:48Speaker 1:And I'm your host, Caleb Collier, once again, your favorite far-right shock jock, and the show that talks about politics and religion. Jesus Christ is our referee, so it's always nice and clean. Real quick, go to the website, churchandstate.media, fill out the form for us, get the newsletter. Keep telling you all to do this. A lot of you aren't listening. I want to talk to you. I want to call you personally. Fill it out. Get our newsletter and get a call from me. It's fun, I guarantee you.

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4:01Speaker 1:Don't you just love it? When you are presented with propaganda, don't you just get all giddy with anticipation and excitement? I know I do. I know I love it when I see a story and I'm like, that's clearly fake. And we should all be accustomed to this, used to this. I mean, we were sold this idea that media is fake. And you know what? It is. But if you agree that media is fake, don't you also have to agree that the current iteration of media is also fake? I would think so. And so what are we hearing today?

4:33Speaker 1:The date of this is October 1st. That's when we're recording the show. And we have the fly Dubai incident that everybody is talking about, right? And what happened? What's the current status? What do we know as of October 1st? This will probably be outdated by the time the episode hits you, but this is what I know as of October 1st. He was flying from Dubai to Tel Aviv, was diverted to Saudi Arabia after the co-pilot allegedly stabbed the captain and tried to crash the plane, an act thwarted by passengers and off-duty crew. So what we know, the pilot was of Indian descent, and the co-pilot is a Muslim. And apparently during the course of the flight, the co-pilot stabs the pilot and then attempts to crash the plane, dropping it rather abruptly, like 16,000 feet in the air, at which point the captain is still alive, is able to open the cabin door and cry for help, at which point three Israelis that were passengers were able to rush the cockpit, put the co-pilot into a chokehold, and regain the control of the plane, and were able to land it successfully. Benjamin Netanyahu was saying that we

5:50Speaker 1:just escaped another 9-11 type event. And Trump, what is Trump doing? He is, of course, suggesting that there might have been a tie to Iran. Isn't that just convenient? Isn't it though? Of course, the boogeyman, Iran, has to have their fingerprints all over this. The reality is, is we don't know. We don't know the intentions behind the co-pilot. We rushed to judgment. Could it be a terrorist, a planned terrorist attack? Certainly. Could it be that the pilot who is Indian, and I'm going to assume is Hindu, could he have had a disagreement with his Muslim co-pilot?

6:36Speaker 1:And the unhinged co-pilot decides, Well, I'll show you who the true God is. Could have been. We don't know. But we got to stop rushing to judgment and then just believing these people who clearly have an agenda to sell. Netanyahu, Donald Trump, 9-11, right? The 9-11 comment. What's that going to do to us? We're going to rush back to that tragic event on September 11th of 2001. We can't ever allow a plane to crash into another building like that. I agree. Of course, I don't agree that that's the full story behind 9-11. You know, I'm a truth rover on this side. But it's going to get that emotional response.

7:25Speaker 1:It's going to elicit that from you. And then we have Donald Trump rushing. Probably ties to Iran. Nobody's saying for sure, but it could be. Well, we can't allow that. If Iran is now trying to use planes as weapons, somebody ought to go do that and go in there and stop him. Right. You know, I mean, we already went in there to stop the nuclear arms, but now we got to go in there again. And what's it going to do? More and more war, more and more war.

7:55Speaker 1:And of course. Higher gas prices as well. And we're moving to Zero Hedge, which has exactly that story right now. Oil soars as U.S. sending 10,000 more troops, third carrier, to Mideast after Donald Trump threatens post-midterm bombing. Here we go again. Look, Donald Trump and the Republican Party knows that the war in Iran is actually not very popular. Sure, you have the conservatives, you know, the MAGA crowd. They're like, you know, they're reiterating and just regurgitating the talking points of short-term pain for long-term gain. But the vast majority of us, once again, the James Carville, it's the economy, stupid.

8:41Speaker 1:It was James Carville, wasn't it, Chris? I think it was. Probably. It was a Bill Clinton during that era. Anyway, we're not happy. Every time we go to the gas pump, every time we go to the grocery store, we're unhappy because the prices just keep going up and up and up. So they're pausing it, right? But of course, it takes a while to move these troops. These troops aren't going to arrive until November. So it's not going to happen. They're not going to have the troops necessary to mount another attack until post-midterm. But he's getting it all ready.

9:18Speaker 1:They're getting sent in there. a bunch of my fellow Marines going in there, among other personnel. Of course, you know I love the Marine Corps the best. We're going to bomb them again. You think this war is over? It's not. You think, to the people that are like, well, I'm going to vote Democrat this time, you think that's going to stop that? You think voting for the pretend left wing of the Uniparty is going to stop this war? Did Biden stop wars? Did Obama stop wars? Of course they didn't. Because they're all part of the same mixture.

9:57Speaker 1:Regardless of who you vote, whoever you put into office. or I should say whoever they put into office, because you got that illusion of choice, you're going to get more war. Isn't that exciting? Aren't you just thrilled? More wars, more endless wars. I got to tell you, at some point, the American public should have it up to here. We've seen boxes brought home, flag-draped coffins filled with our best and brightest. That's what's at stake. But we don't do anything about it. We complain. Complain, we moan. Then we vote for the other side. Because they're going to be different this time. Empty campaign promises. I so tire of them.

10:49Speaker 1:And then from there, I want to bring something else up. This is really interesting. I want to talk about Project Meridian. This was just launched today, once again, October 1st. And people weren't paying attention at all to what this is. At all. They're talking about Pete Hegseth's speech. This dog whistle designed both for the left and the right. Let's go ahead and hear it. Go ahead, Chris.

11:18Speaker 2:But it's worth saying again so that the fake news understands it. We are no longer the woke department or the weak department. Simple translation of that. No fatties, no trannies, no beardos, no weirdos, no wimps, no radicals. Just warriors. Just tough, ready, committed troops. The war department, as you know, is colorblind, gender neutral, And.

11:57Speaker 1:There it is. And you see what this does, right, to the to the MAGA crowd who got so tired of what was happening to our military. And look, I agree with you guys. When you got the army marching a mile in high heels so they can march a mile in her shoes. You got the PFTs, for example, in the Marine Corps, where we were required to do specific things, run three miles, do 20 pull-ups. They got lowered. The bar got lowered and lowered and lowered and lowered until you end up with a bunch of people who can't fight their way out of a paper bag. And if you have a military, yeah, it might be important to have the best, the toughest. I mean, it's the Marine Corps, guys. The few, the proud. But every other branch suffered from it. In fact, all the other branches...

12:42Speaker 1:I suffer from it more than the Marine Corps, because the Marine Corps actually held firm on a lot of this. But the MAGA people are like, yes! No more fatties, no more beardos, no more weirdos. This is fantastic, just warriors. But the dog whistle on the other side is what? The left is going to beat their chest. Oh my gosh. Look at Trump, orange man, TDS. Pete Haig said he's such a war criminal. Look at how they're oppressing the minorities and the trans and the gays and all this.

13:16Speaker 1:It's a dog whistle to both sides, guys, because you are fixated on that. You're paying attention to what he said, and the soundbite is traveling all over social media. Meanwhile, nobody's even asking what Project Meridian is. And that's what we should be paying attention to. I tell you all the time, stop looking at the magician's left hand. The trick is occurring over here. So what exactly is it? What exactly has come about with Project Meridian? Why is Elon Musk associated with it? Project Meridian is co-led. Elon Musk, Palmer Luckey, and Newt Gingrich, Newt Gingrich, Where did they pull him out of, Chris? How long has that guy been retired? Is he still around? I did not. I mean, actually, I did know that he was still around. But that guy's old. Now I'm going to be called an ageist.

14:19Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know. That guy looks tired. I don't think he may not be the best person to co-lead this. But Pete Hegseth has announced the initiative. And it's during his State of Force. What are these names? The State of Force. We changed it from the Secretary of Defense to the Secretary of War. And now we have a speech about the State of the Force. I feel like we're in Star Wars. Do I have a Star Wars button, Chris? I need a Star Wars button, I think. I don't think we have one. Anyway, the State of Force at Marine Corps Base Quantico. The role, the trio will study future warfare domains and technologies for the Pentagon under the supervision of Chief Technology Officer Emile Michael.

15:08Speaker 1:A 120-day study aims to identify weapons and systems needed for battlefields ranging from under the Earth to beyond the moon. Hmm. Hear that, Chris? We're going beyond the moon. Beyond the moon. Wow. I guess we broke through on the other side. I guess that happened. I wouldn't be so sure. Are you sure? It seems that we broke through the firmament, Chris. To the waters above. This announcement accompanied the creation of the new Autonomous Warfare Command focused on AI robotics and drone warfare. Oh, there we go. Not artificial intelligence. Chris, correct me. Super intelligence.

15:57Speaker 1:I'm so glad that there was an executive order put out that we could change the name from artificial intelligence to super intelligence. Does that not concern you? Are you in trouble a little bit by this? Or should we go back and play Pete Hexeth's excellent speech so we can talk about beardos and weirdos, no trans, all that kind of stuff? Or should we maybe focus on the fact that Elon Musk, the guy who led Doge, Which we just did an episode. In fact, we're going to put these in order, Chris. I'm going to call an audible on that. But we just did the episode yesterday where we talked about America, right? Taking all of the bureaucracy and going to America.gov where everything is under one banner.

16:45Speaker 1:It's sure convenient. But that was the purpose of Doge all along. And I chastised myself on that episode for not seeing it. Well, now we're doing what to the military? We're bringing Elon Musk to bring it all together. Under what? Under an AI banner. Sorry, SI. You know, SI in medical terms stands for suicidal ideations. That fits. I think it might have been appropriately named. I think now when we talk about, not AI anymore, but SI, I think we might have suicidal ideations, especially if we turn over the entire military... To it. To robotics. Is anybody else out there having visions of Skynet? Chris, when you hear about the AI robotics and drone warfare, are you having Skynet visions at all? Just a little bit. A little bit, yeah.

17:46Speaker 1:We need that song. Do-do-do, do-do-do. Remember that from Terminator? You're not going to start singing, are you? I might. Gabe was the singer. I don't typically sing on these shows, but I'm terrified. I got a smile on my face because Christ is King, of course, but this is not good. This is not good whatsoever for the world as a whole. Are we going to stop this? Are we going to do anything about it? Are we going to focus on Hegsa's speech? Are we going to actually ask questions about Project Meridian? And that maybe, maybe, just maybe, this isn't a good idea. Gosh, I hope, I hope we do.

18:39Speaker 1:I mean, just think about the future wars here. Think about the future wars and the expansion of it all. They talked about it under the earth, over the earth. They're not happy anymore to just bring a war upon the earth. They want to do it underground. They want to do it in the ocean. They want to do it in the air. They want to do it in space. These guys have a bloodlust like you wouldn't believe. And they're announcing it. And half the population is upset because it's not inclusive. And the other population, the other half of the population is rah, rah, rah, all the way to death. Why pick a team for that? Why would you possibly do that? Why? If you are more, look, I talked to a recent episode. I talked about the need for a warrior and a poet, right? In every society, we need both. So if you're more on that poet side of things, Why would you root for what is weak and wimpy? It just makes you want to pull your hair out. But if you're the warrior, don't you want to go home at night? Don't you want to see your family? Or are you just a viking? It believes that when I die, you know what? You know

20:06Speaker 1:what heaven's going to be like? I'm going to give more war. We're just going to feast and fight each other and kill each other, and then we'll get resurrected to do it all over again. Is that your idea, heaven? This intentional divide just gets me going. Truly, it does. That we couldn't strive to have both. And every once in a while, that warrior poet emerges. A blending of both. And maybe that's the true leader. In fact, it is the true leader. King David was a warrior poet. Donald Trump is not a warrior poet. Pete Hegseth is not a warrior poet. None of our leaders have been. Not a very long time. Washington. Washington. That was a warrior poet.

21:02Speaker 1:Those are the kind of people you want to follow. Because when pushed, they will do battle. But at the end of the day, they want peace. They want peace, not just for themselves, but for all of mankind. And we don't have it. We do not have it. From there, Let's talk about something else. Something else that can get us all angry and agitated and animated like your host. Maha Goes Digital. This one's coming from the New American. Maha Goes Digital. RFK Jr. 's Algorithmic Medical State. Oh.

21:48Speaker 1:Here we go again. You know, all these people that we once had faith in. Like Donald Trump. Trump. Like RFK. RFK hits harder for me. I never trusted Donald Trump. But RFK I wanted to believe in. I really did. And I told you the story before about being his bodyguard at an event in Olympia, Washington. I met him. Talked with him. I believed that he wanted what was best for medical freedom. And how many times do I bring in medical freedom doctors on this show? Because it's a Honestly, it's a passion of mine. This matters so much to me, and that's why I devote so much time talking about it. Why I got banned off of YouTube.

22:39Speaker 1:I won't mention why, Chris, because I want to put this episode on YouTube. Do you think I still can?

22:48Speaker 2:Shh.

22:48Speaker 1:Okay, I'll be quiet. I can't be quiet. Health and Human Services, HHS. Secretary Robert F. Kennedy headlined this week's Maha Summit in Washington... Where officials, physicians, entrepreneurs, insurers, health tech executives discuss chronic disease, health care costs, nutrition, early detection, psychedelics, artificial intelligence. Oh, sorry, super intelligence. We got to start writing that. We got to correct that. Donald Trump told us to. And the growing use of health data. Kennedy used the event to push two ideas in particular. giving AI a much larger role in personal health care and linking vast stores of Americans' health data so researchers and machines can search them for answers. Oh, the betrayal. It cuts like a knife. How could we possibly view this as a good thing? How could we possibly view RFK Jr.

23:49Speaker 1:with nothing but suspicion at this point forward? He's partnering with the tech oligarchs. They all are. Every single one of them. Every time I see Donald Trump and RFK Jr. as of late, they're surrounded by the tech oligarchs. Elon Musk is all over it. Mark Zuckerberg is all over it. Peter Thiel is all over it. Because that's who's really leading the country. And I was just talking about Skynet and Terminator. How do you put these puzzle pieces together? Well, let's do it. We're already going to have warfare with SI, I'm going to get this right, suicidal ideations, which is also in the medical thing. I'll talk about that in a second here. Drones and robots. And now all of our health data is going to be given over to superintelligence.

24:55Speaker 1:Your healthcare is going to be, yeah, sure, we'll have a doctor initially, but eventually it's just going to go over to AI or SI. You think made in Canada is a fluke? You think human beings, even with the limited conscience that some of these people have, you think AI is going to be better than that? You think the machine, the cold, calculated machine, is not going to examine everything and come to the conclusion that this individual isn't worth saving? Could we do it?

25:37Speaker 2:Sure.

25:38Speaker 1:We've got the technology. But as superintelligence looks across all spectrums, what do they contribute to society? How long have they lived? How much money have we had to give them through Elon Musk's universal high income You know what? We're going to make the cold decision. This person's lived a long enough life. That's what we're asking for. When we do a medical state, an AI or SI medical state, I like the SI, honestly, the suicidal ideation medical state. Kennedy made his ambitions clear during the fireside chat with Vice President J.D. Vance. And of course, J.D. Vance, he's the poster boy. That's who the tech bros want in office.

26:34Speaker 1:They want him as our next president because he's completely sold out to them. Fireside chat with Vice President J.D. Vance at the Maha Summit on Tuesday. He began by invoking a recent conversation with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. According to Kennedy, Altman told him, Two years ago, I wouldn't have advised anybody to take medical advice alone from AI. But today, it would be a malpractice for a doctor to make a diagnosis or to make a prescription without at least checking AI. Oh, you see how they get you there? Sam Altman, he's benevolent. Chris, when you think of benevolent characters, isn't Sam Altman at the top of your list? I mean, literally like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny.

27:21Speaker 1:Sam Altman, right? Like, he's got to be in the top three. Of satanic frauds? Oh, yeah. No, Chris, no. Shh. No. Benevolent characters. Yes, Sam Altman obviously clearly has our benefit, humanity's benefit. He's a pure heart, ladies and gentlemen. This sarcasm just drips from my voice. Kennedy went further. He said HHS wants every American to have digital access to personal medical records from a phone. A patient, he noted, could have a thousand-page medical history. A doctor may have only minutes to examine it. AI would not face that limitation. Perhaps, oh perhaps, we needed to fix the medical system. You're pointing to something that you all created. You created manufactured corporate health care to where we barely even get a sentence in with the doctor. He quickly examines it, boom, and writes you a script and he's out the door and you're paying hundreds of dollars for that type of health care? Yeah, that's a problem. But is AI the solution? Hey, this is Caleb Collier with Church and State. I'm here to tell you about Hunter's Blend Coffee. I got to tell you, I absolutely love this stuff. I'm all about

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31:19Speaker 1:Stop me having crazy ideas. Stop Chris having to do more work. Just hit the donate button. It's that simple. I like that. All right. Let's go back into the conversation at hand. I'm talking about the failed medical system because they're pointing to it. They do this so often. It's so predictable. I'm blown away that more people can't see it. That's what you have me for, I suppose. They failed. They failed the medicine or the medical community. You talk to any nurse, any doctor, and they're going to tell you corporate health care is just awful. They all hate it. They're being worked to the bone. The corporations are all about making more money, more money, more money.

32:03Speaker 1:They're working these people. I mean, most of them work 12-hour shifts anyway in the ER and things. And what do they get? A pizza party. Didn't you love it when they do this, Chris? Like, hey, we know we worked you for like two weeks straight with no breaks and like You had way too many patients. In fact, it was probably unsafe according to the standards that the state has set. But to thank you for all of that, there's pizza in the break room.

32:31Speaker 2:Yeah, nothing says we appreciate you like cardboard crust and fake cheese.

32:36Speaker 1:Yeah, I know. They figured this out a long time. Just give them a little bit of free food. Yeah, a little bit of free food. Yeah, that'll work. They're probably taking it out of their paychecks too to pay for the pizza party. It sucks. I get it, okay? But this isn't the answer. Remember crisis solution? Talk about it all the time on the show. Here's your solution. The solution is AI or SI. They can get you to where the computer looks at everything. Like that. A blink of an eye. And then gives a treatment or a prescription. The AI can distill it. is what Kennedy said.

33:21Speaker 1:He adds, it can give you a second opinion that is much better informed than any doctor in the country. Oh, if you trust it. If you trust it. Where's the AI getting their information from? This isn't godlike, okay? We all recognize that. Artificial intelligence, super intelligence, whatever you want to call it, what does it have access to? Everything on the internet. And everything on the internet is going to actually go against what Robert F. Kennedy supposedly stood for.

33:52Speaker 1:He talks about, listen to this. One of the things that's going to change is that we're never, ever again going to be able to be dominated by public officials who tell us, trust the experts, because every American will be able to check their own medical advice. He continues, and if somebody tells you masks work, trust the experts. AI may tell you otherwise. If somebody else tells you social distancing works, trust the experts. AI may correct that.

34:15Speaker 1:And if somebody tells you that a vaccine will prevent transmission and infection, oh, you need to take it to protect your grandmother. AI may say it actually doesn't do that. So it really has the capacity to free us from medical tyranny. These are RFK Jr. 's words. Except for, go back to what I was just saying. What's AI's source? AI's source is the establishment. AI's source is the CDC, is the AMA, is the government. So if the government decides, you know what, we want everybody to wear masks. We want everybody to stay six feet apart from each other.

34:58Speaker 1:We want everybody to take the vaccines. What do you think artificial intelligence is going to say? Exactly that, except for, and here's where it's more dangerous, except for because you've been programmed to believe that artificial intelligence or super intelligence doesn't have an agenda. that it's just spitting out the facts, you're more inclined to believe it. Even us, people like you and me, who pushed back against it, who just inherently knew something in our minds and our hearts is stirred.

35:34Speaker 1:And we said, you know, I'm not taking that. I'm not doing that. I'm still going to church. We turned to artificial intelligence. You know what? I didn't believe it. But you know what? The super intelligence, it's telling me, yes, I do have to take this vaccine. I do have to wear this mask. I do have to make sure I don't come six feet, get six feet closer to my wife or something. Is that what we're going to believe? I hope not. But I am thankful for one thing.

36:13Speaker 1:One thing in all of this. RFK Jr., we see you. We see exactly who you are. You sold out. You sold out, man. I feel like Star Wars right now. You were the chosen one. Just another failed politician. Just more failed campaign promises. Now, That's why you listen to independent media. And the last story that we're going to be talking about is exactly that, Project Muse. You know what I tell you all the time to pay attention to what the opposition says? I do that. I read these things. Maybe you won't. Maybe you just don't want to.

37:01Speaker 1:I do. I signed up a while ago for a real nasty newsletter called The Journal of Democracy. I hate it. I hate the name already. But boy, is it interesting. This is globalist through and through. This is the Council on Foreign Relations, the World Economic Forum, United Nations. This is trash. But know your enemy. I had a really interesting article here. How to protect the media in eroding democracies. Isn't that the nature of democracies, that they immediately erode? Yeah, I think people warned us. People far more intelligent than me warned us about democracies a long time ago. Maybe we should read those. But the article is fascinating. It talks about the rise of independent media. And it talks about how democracies transform. It talks about the positive ways and the negative ways. And of course, in their writing, they believe that democracy is at the end all be all.

38:11Speaker 1:That's the best system of government. So they're going to push that upon us until enough countries become democracies so that they can become totalitarian. But they point to the fact that whenever you get a person in power, they're going to immediately take over the media. And it's true. That is accurate. They take over the media. Why? So that they can propagandize the people. And certainly the United States has not been immune to this. Many people believe that we were, but we never had truly free independent. Well, maybe in the very beginning we had truly free independent media.

38:52Speaker 1:But they took over it a long time ago. Just read Rockefeller's famous words, thanking the media for their contributions or maybe lack of contributions, hiding what was actually going on. But then they talk about how there's transformation within these countries, positive transformations in these countries. And they point to three specific ways that these countries are changed. They can be changed by a true leader, right? The electoral process. Somebody gets in, gets elected, and many within the conservative circles would point to Donald Trump. as an example of this.

39:31Speaker 1:I would not. But there are, regardless of that, there are examples of a populist. Somebody that's a little bit different, not the standard status quo of politicians that emerges into office. But the media plays an essential role into his power and to getting his voice before the people. From there, there's more of a bureaucratic transformation where the legislators, the judges, the bureaucrats can transform a society, oftentimes against the wills and wishes of that executive authority. And then, of course, there's the popular movement. This is where individuals like myself would come into play. People that organically push back. There's protests in the streets. But regardless of the transformation, the media has a role in all of this. This is why the media has so been targeted. The media is targeted because without the media giving a voice to the bureaucrats, to the popular movement, to the executive position, that the message isn't going to go around. It's not going to hit who it needs to hit. And that's why the media gets targeted more than anyone else. That's why they so fundamentally hate independent voices. And this article talks about that,

40:59Speaker 1:but they're talking about it from a negative aspect. They're talking about it that somebody, of course, who is it, but somebody has to control all these voices. How is that free? How is that independent? How is that actual truthful media? They claim that maybe the best solution is the people. The people. And I would agree with that. Except for you're claiming for democracies. You're claiming for the majority. If my voice hits only one person and it edifies that person, then I've done a job well done. But the solution isn't democracies. It isn't more government control. It isn't a bunch of left-wing think tanks talking about what media should or shouldn't be. What media should or shouldn't be is determined by you, the audience. The audience who examines the individual and says, can I trust this person?

42:09Speaker 1:Should I be skeptical of them? And we should never, ever have the mentality that so long has prevailed in the United States of too big to fail. We brought in the CNN that was literally dying, but we propped it up through government funds, through NGOs, through USAID. That money went into CNN and MSNBC, which is now, what is it now? MSN Now, is that right? I think it's MS Now. MS Now, yeah. Had to change their name. And now on the other side, what are we doing?

42:46Speaker 1:We're propping up Fox News. A lot of other organizations. The Taylor Moore to the right. And the true independent ones, like myself, are on here daily begging for five bucks a month from you. We don't have the corporate money. We don't have the corporate sponsorship. You don't see a commercial after I'm done recommending the next Pfizer drug. If independent media is going to be successful, if it's going to last, if it's going to reach people, then it has to be organic. It has to be grassroots. It has to be sponsored by you. It's so essential to our freedoms. It's so essential to uncovering the truth. Everything that I talked about in this episode, You don't hear from a lot of places. There's other people out there, other great podcasters, other independent media that'll touch on similar subjects.

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