RABBIT HOLE RECAP #396: PUSH FORWARD, NEVER STOP

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3:48In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. I mean, that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin. If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. Oh, we're on the air. Freaks. Bit of a low energy pre-recording backstage here, Matt and I. That's tired, I'm sick, but we're going to pick it up for you, okay? The show must go on, as they say. Always. Push forward. in a few weeks now that ai is fully recursive it's just going to be uh it's going to be ai marty and matt running this so yeah no i don't think uh i i think somehow in the ai side and maybe this is just a human thing it's like there's very people in the middle ground most people are are uh overestimating the speed or underestimating the speed which this stuff progresses i mean it's still i'm now officially you know two weeks deep in this soulless robot slave rabbit hole and in a lot of ways i mean it's incredibly powerful it's really promising but it's also super frustrating it's it's an advanced toddler it's a yeah i think uh a month in the playing with us too it's i would agree advanced toddler maybe a teenager maybe a teenager at a prep school or something like that but uh it yeah i mean it's

5:34There's not a perfect human metaphor to it because it's obviously doing... I would not have my toddler doing automated trades on LN markets, but also at the same time, I mean, specifically when you're talking about recursive improvements or autonomy of being on its own and doing its own thing, you really see the pain points on the recurring tasks. You can get everything dialed in on the recurring tasks and everything is working great. and then something happens and you just like wake up one morning and it just has no idea what it's doing it's gone in a complete wrong tangents it's deleting files it's updating shit you know the the whole living room's a mess and then somehow it just can't relearn the skills it's like trying to figure it out and you're like okay look i'm wiping you we're gonna start fresh everyone take a deep breath here and let's proceed well i spent a lot of this week trying to fix that because i ran into that problem and upgrading my memory system using like qmd which is uh toby from shopify's uh project yeah i think predates open claw and uh upgrading to opus 4.6 on the back end

6:52has the brain has been pretty massive. Yeah, I mean, Opus 4.6 is also just stupid expensive. Yeah. Shout out to Mav21 for the 21,000 sat zap already in the Nostra live stream. You are correct. It looks like X live streams are having trouble. I don't think we're up there. I think I have to I have like a diagnosis if you go to the 1031x account does it show that it's saying there's no tweet but we do have the pink live supposedly the tweets aren't going out you have to manually post this I'm sure you saw that letter that went mega viral earlier this week from somebody working at an AI company saying you need to be afraid and use my AI tools some half-truths in there it is certainly leading into it but I think the idea that white-collar workers are going to be blown out of the water in the next 12 months is a bit aggressive.

8:11John Arnold and I talked about it a lot this week. John Arnold from 1031 and I were in New York for a couple days together this week. Our two breakfast chats revolved around this topic, among other things, and just the inertia that exists within large organizations, people like their fiefdoms, to think that they're going to give that up easily and quickly is probably naive. And then on top of that, to your point, I think the tools are really cool, they're really good, but the edge cases are vast and definitely not buttoned up yet.

8:48When you're considering the amount of sensitive data that would be required to replace white-collar workers and trust with these agents, these bots, I don't think we're there yet from a security perspective. no i mean i think once again it's a timing thing right um and i think people are either over indexing or under indexing but the reality the reality is um this is going to be massively disruptive to the workforce i think it was larry wasn't And Larry Fink had a speech recently where he said it's basically going to do to white collar work what globalization did to blue collar work, which I think is probably a pretty decent analogy in a sea of bad analogies.

9:48And if you think about it that way, it's not like all the factory workers in the US all lost their jobs at the same time. There was a gradually then suddenly acceleration process that resulted in globalization and a hollowing out of industrial centers in the United States. It wasn't like one day everyone woke up and lost their job. And that's probably where we're going here. And specifically, I think the idea that humans completely leave the equation is in line with this whole concept of AGI is probably significantly off the mark.

10:29I think you see one employee or one manager doing the job that would normally take 10 or 20, and that person is enhanced by these tools and is a more effective team member as a result, right? Yeah. I was at an event in New York last night. I'm going to take the late train back to Philly with the event I was at. the founder of AQR, which is a quad hedge fund, was speaking. This topic came up, and I thought his take was pretty good. I mean, and it's something that's not new, but it was just reinforcing, which is we've seen this type of, I mean, not at this scale, in this pace, but I think humans are very adaptable, and I find it hard to believe that we're just going to have an economy where nobody works.

11:26Jobs will be different. You'll focus on other things. I think we're at the beginning of let a million flowers bloom. I think it's actually going to be really exciting in the sense that people are just going to be able to project things they want that are unique to their minds and their ideas on the world. Yeah, I mean, if you have mass unemployment and hopelessness, it results in revolutions and civil wars. So there's a balancing act that the elites need to make sure exists.

12:07And part of that balancing act is telling the lie of universal high income, like Elon likes to say. um and so i mean i think the socialist utopia people are obviously completely wrong and batshit crazy um so this idea that people aren't going to work and are going to have like a high quality of life is just you know it's like unicorns and rainbows just bullshit um and uh This idea that – but the idea that people have to find a way to survive or they die, right?

12:46So people will be working. Really? They don't survive, they die? Look, I think the unfortunate reality though is this is going to accelerate and make worse the levels of income inequality we see right now. And the pervert example you see is what you just said, right? It's like, oh, you're using Opus 4.6 and you have an edge on everyone else. Well, it's expensive as fuck. And there's a balancing act here where you have the doomers on one side that says, you know, this is the end of humanity wrong.

13:23You have the utopians, you know, on the other side. They're also wrong on the opposite extreme. I think this will probably be a step up improvement for society. and you have this combination of wealth accruing to a small elite, specifically a tech elite, and accelerating in that direction. But on the other side, you have more accessible freedom tools than you've ever had before because of these open source AI tools. I mean, I was talking to Callie a few days ago.

13:58It's like there's hours of Citadel Dispatch where we discuss the pain points of a user having to figure out which mint to choose when they use cashew. Well, it turns out all of that was a waste of time because you just tell the robot to create a cashew wallet and it just figures out what mints it's going to use. And it is able to actually look at webs of trust and verifiable reputations and balance risk between multiple mints and do all these complex things that UX-wise was almost impossible to translate to an end user.

14:30the robot can just do that without the user even realizing. For years, we've talked about the difficulties with Lightning liquidity. Well, I have in the notes, might as well just bring it up now, that Amboss just released an MCP spec for bots to buy liquidity on their marketplace. In my mind, before this existed, I always thought it was batshit crazy that people were going to go and manually buy liquidity for their Lightning channels. And I think it still is mostly batshit crazy that people are going to do that.

15:02But is it batshit crazy that a bot will do that? No. Someone's going to have a small business. They're going to sell coffee on the shack or something. And they're going to want to accept payments. And they're going to want to have a social presence. And they're just going to tell the bot, create a lightning node, spin up a Nostra account, update the Nostra account, manage my lightning liquidity and accept payments, and then put it all in a QuickBooks file for me.

15:25You don't even need QuickBooks at that point. I put it all in the bookkeeping files to keep track of all my payments. And then you can do that all in a freedom stack without big tech if you want, and it'll be more accessible than ever. But then at the same time, you'll have flock cameras on every fucking corner and people's cameras in their backyards, all face tracking people and co-opting them and capturing them. So you have like two sides of the same coin that are doing different things.

15:54and one is empowering individuals and one is capturing individuals. But that's how it's always been, right? That's how it is with Bitcoin. You can use Bitcoin in varying levels of freedom. Same with this. Yeah. And on that note, on the sovereign stack, we've been talking to the Maple guys behind the scene. They're working hard to make sure that sovereign LLM stack is done the right way. I'm very excited to see what they roll out the coming months yeah I mean the UX again the projectionist sort of meme out there I think that's a good way for me to sort of conceptualize it in my mind like to your point I had it spin up the Phoenix D server and I was like hey like we want a degree of privacy when we're when we're taking this Bitcoin off the exchange after your extremely profitable hedge fund begins making distributions, figure out how to create a cashew wallet and connect to a mint.

17:01It came back. It's like, oh, got the wallet. I see that many bits is a good mint. I joined that one. It's ready to go when we need it. It's like, okay. yeah i am yeah cashew specifically cashew and nostor are like two super easy integrations you can do with these things um that to me are just like major aha moments for open protocols and open specs um my i mean my my bot was uh he was managing multiple on his own he was just keeping funds in multiple mints, which I thought was clever.

17:43The Titanic approach. If one mint goes down, you don't lose all your money. But you can easily see how, you know, it's like who will build the roads? The bots will build the roads. It's kind of crazy. We've always talked about, you know, the webs of trust, for instance, with Noster. It's like how are people going to manage webs of trust? The robots will just manage the webs of trust. So now we need the tools so the robots can interact with those webs of trust easier, right?

18:13They should be robot specific. Most end users will probably never touch the webs of trust themselves. They'll never trust the mint auditors themselves. Running Fedimans, right? Another perfect example, Lightning nodes, UTXO management. What about the trade-off that we've always talked about with coin control and trying to explain coin control to end users where you have these two warring trade-offs? You have cost versus privacy. And what does the end user want when they're actually picking their UTXOs?

18:54Well, the bot can figure that out per your preferences. Do you want to save money? Do you want privacy? Do you want to find a nice, happy middle ground? Should it check the chain to see what kind of UTXO history the UTXOs have before it adds it to a payment? Things get really, really interesting. But then on the opposite side, there's chain analysis tools that you just load an API into your bot. And you're like, okay, I want to put Marty Bent in jail.

19:24Why don you comb through his entire financial history and let me know in just like plain English let me know what the hell going on here So it wild times in all regards But I think net it makes me much more hopeful and optimistic on the future Same. Before we drift too far into this conversation, let's get to Clark's dashboard. Current price of Bitcoin, $65,430. One cup box is going to get you $1,529. We're at a 1.31 trillion Cuckbuck market cap.

20:01We are 48.2% below the previous all-time high of 126,160 Cuckbucks. We are at block height 936,256. We got a 256 of the block height here. Nice. We had the second or the largest difficulty adjustment since China Mining Man last week, right after we recorded. It was a negative 11.2% adjustment. Um, currently we're 1,184 blocks away from the next difficulty adjustment estimated to be on February 20th, 2026. So eight days from now, next Friday, uh, it's looking like an upwards adjustment of, uh, 11.4% right now.

20:44Uh, difficulty adjustment as we said it would after the winter storm and, um, hash rate is recovering. going to mempool.space they have 11,520 or excuse me 66 transactions in their mempool and if you look at the hash rate chart looks like hash rate is establishing a B like recovery as of right now fell to 884 exahash currently at 945. So up 60 exahash in the last week. Mining is recovering. There's a lot of stuff you don't have the list that I thought we were going to talk about.

21:39Matt, you're muted. Muted. So let's talk about, I mean, case in point, I was saying I'm tired. So I failed a little bit on the list this time. I just been. Sigbash2. I've been swamped on work and I retweeted that. I re-noster posted it. That's awesome. So what's the changes? I had Arbed out on dispatch for Sigbashv1 and you just had them on for Sigbashv2 on TFTC. What's the changes? there's a zero knowledge proof component um that's cool that makes it uh impossible for the sigbash blind signer to know anything about the transactions and then on top of that um i think a wasm protocol on top of it to make it very easy to create certain conditional transactions many different forms well you know i um when i first had him on it was like one of these things that like first of all you know our dad huge friend of the both of ours uh a friend of the pod um but like the concept was just as a big corner uh i love the concept right a a no KYC, no touchpoint co-signer for collaborative Bitcoin transactions for multi-six.

23:12And it's very configurable. You can do a bunch of different things with them. You can use them for inheritance. You can use them for business management tasks, stuff like that. The biggest thing I couldn't wrap my head around was like, how many users are actually technical enough and realize the need enough to actually use something like this? Well, to our earlier conversation. I think bots could use this thing all the time. It's actually great for the robots.

23:39Yeah. So Logan Paul has a tweet. This is from Arbdout. Earlier this week, Sigbash V2 is live. He switched to a new approach that I'm calling oblivious signing using Musig2 WebAssembly. That was awesome. And Zero Knowledge Proofs. Our signer never sees your signing key or the transactions you ask us to sign. If you go, we're not going to do it now, but if you get on that tweet check the responses and the quote tweets a lot of the hardcore bitcoin developers are very excited about this and i think it's a great example of pushing what is currently possible in the design landscape of bitcoin at a technical level to its limits before we begin talking about softworks and so for those um who are wondering what the type of use cases you get out of what a what softworks are being discussed to enable those use cases, I think covenants is the biggest one.

24:35So what Sigbash V2 gives you out of the box is covenant-like capabilities. You basically do covenants, but there's a trade-off is that you're trusting the server. Yeah, I mean, it's a major trade-off. You have a centralized server that you're not trusting with your privacy, but you're trusting with uptime and security. but like if if and like we talked about this on the original dispatch because i had this issue with final message which some freaks might remember it's a project i had a long time ago but final message was similar in that it just solved a very simple problem for people and they could use it in a variety of different ways but it solved it in a centralized way, which was you could take a final message. And if you died or something happened to you, it was a centralized dead man switch. It would send an encrypted message to whoever you want your recipient to be. Now, the problem I had with that is, and the problem you'll see with a lot of these things, is there wasn't that much product market fit for it because it required a user to be more technical, right? It tried to solve a lot of things that a full stack company like

25:57a Casa or Unchained solves for people with collaborative custody, but without the guard rails or the handholding. And the advantage you got out of there is you got more freedom, but most people would rather have the handholding and the guardrails. So the total amount of users that it's desirable to was quite small. And so what ended up happening and their main trust, because the messages were encrypted they didn't have to trust me with the contents of the message they had to trust that when push came to shove that i actually sent the fucking thing um and so what ended up happening was we had like a hundred users and it wasn't really making that much revenue and we're like four or five years down the line and you just got to still keep the servers running you know you got to like make sure the fucking thing is running and it you're like oh yeah, I'll run this thing forever. You start hitting year six, year seven, year eight, like it gets exhausting to keep it up for a few amount of users. And so I talked to him about this.

26:58I was like, if you're doing this thing and we talked about it, he's down for it. But like, we talked about it a year ago. It was like, if you're doing this thing, you have to be ready to run this thing for a decade. That's what people are expecting and not get burnt out over it. but I do think the bots increase the addressable market once again, because the cool part about a tool like Sigbash is the amount of configurability and optionality you have.

27:29But that's where humans fail a lot of times. They get decision paralysis. They have too many options. But bots don't have that issue. You tell a bot, I want you to use Sigbash to spin up some kind of scenario for me um then the bot can advise and help i think it's a pretty big deal yeah and the other thing i don't know if he was blowing smoke up my ass but we were as we were talking through the server setup for sig bash i was like could you just basically copy the logic of the server again since it's using music and zero knowledge proofs and web assembly like all you need is just like to copy the logic and could you like store it on NOSTA relays and just distribute you need to have the key material also right to be able to actually sign again I'm not a technical expert but the way I understand how he's leveraging zero knowledge proofs like you can transfer that um outside of the the individual server right you just know somebody brings you a proof and it's like okay i recognize this is about you still need the signing server up though yeah the signing server is the big that actually is like processing the request and

28:58that's the big like just to give you an example here of so how we handled it uh with final message is we stopped new signups like five years ago. And I still got like three users on that fucking thing because of renewals. Like I didn't want to kick them off. And I'm just waiting for them to stop using the product. Like no new users are signing up. The servers are running just for three fucking people. Well, it's a dead man switch thing too. So they need liveliness too.

29:28So they're still like sending the email or whatever. Yeah. It's still other switches enabled. um so and it's you know it was it was a non-signup so i don't have any um i have no contact info so if you're listening and you're one of the three users like maybe check out this you're welcome yeah they continue to pay their fees like it's not like i'm like losing it's it's not a losing money thing it's actually relatively cheap to to run i'm sure it's relatively cheap for him to run the sig bash server it's a mental burden thing it's like particularly for these use cases presumably people are going to be using it for inheritance and stuff and he is a person that has high ethics and high integrity like it will constantly be on the back of his mind like this thing needs to work otherwise someone's going to die and their kids aren't going to get bitcoin yeah well it's a huge responsibility. How do you get more certain than that? Beloved Arbed Out. We think he's a man of the highest integrity.

30:38I would be very comfortable to say that. It would be ideal if somebody like a block or something ran this. No, it just needs to have a sustainable, scalable business model, I think. If this thing is pushing out a million dollars worth of revenue a year, like if he's not maintaining it he'll hire people to maintain it and can afford to maintain it you know but if it if it gets stuck in hobby project territory then he's going to have 50 users in 10 years he's going to want to fucking kill himself so that's going to happen that's just how it works well go check it out if you haven't seen it yeah it's pretty be give him give him revenue. Go use it. What is it? Sigbash. What is it? Sigbash.com? Yeah. Yeah. Sigbash.com.

31:33You're ready to keep your Bitcoin and your privacy. Your rules, our verification, nobody's business, but yours. It's really awesome. Cool tool. Something I'll probably use. Yeah. And huge shout out to Arbed Out. Your first item on the list. I think it may be fake news, but we can talk about it anyway. Is it really fake news? Because I just thought it just captured the vibes of the current status quo so well. It's got a community note. Well, I'm glad it's fake news.

32:08Before we get there, shout out Soulminer Zaptos, 21,000 sets. Best soap in the business, go to Soulminer.com. Thank you, sir. Yeah, there was reports that Klarna was doing buy now, pay later for OnlyFans. And I just felt like it was a great way to start the show. but I'm glad it's not real. You should not pay random women on the internet to see nude pictures of them and flirt with them and think that they're your girlfriend. But you definitely shouldn't put it on a payment plan.

32:43Stop fapping, freaks. Stop fapping. Feeding the degeneracy, the nihilism of our age. if you're listening and you have an only fans account i just want you to know that i'm i'm disappointed in you on both sides or both sides yeah both sides what about if you are a 19 year old female and you're making six seven million dollars a year and you never actually take your clothes off still you're feeding that beast i respect that also shout out that those those people there's there's one woman specifically that is doing that i forget her name a sophie rain she's never never does any nude just just think about this for a second marty okay young young good-looking women who don't have a hopeful path have historically it's an it's a business as old as humanity, sex work, right? Have gone into prostitution. They get pregnant, they get STDs, they get beat up. They like make like $20 an hour. And this, this, this chick realized she's at this one point in time where she doesn't have to leave her home, doesn't have to meet sketchy people, doesn't have to take off her clothes, doesn't have to have sex with people

34:09and make $6 million a year, just generational wealth right before AI makes income inequality way worse and actually destroys this business model because no one's going to believe anything that is real on the internet. You know, it's all the videos that could just be a dude that's pretending to be a woman. And I found this perfect point in time to just, you know, quickly get 10 million, 15, $20 million. And it's not really a scam. It's not like an ICO or something where they're like, oh, this is the future Bitcoin or this is going to power Wi-Fi or something.

34:46It's pretty obvious what she's doing. She's like, give me money because I'm hot. And you're a consenting adult in this relationship of giving me money. There's a lot more unethical ways to make money. I kind of respect that hustle. She should put it in Bitcoin. I see your point, but it's soul sucking. She's always going to be the girl who made millions of dollars. Only fans. how's she going to tell her kids that she's going to tell her kids look kids i didn't take off my clothes and i took advantage of a bunch of horny men and now your family has fucking thousands of bitcoin you're welcome at the very least i hope i have no usable skills and i just happened to be born attractive and took advantage of this exact moment for my family i'd be like shout out you That's awesome.

35:38Sophie, if you're out there and you're listening, just retire. Adopt the fire mindset. It's time. Yeah, your husband should come home from work. You're smoking weed, playing Call of Duty. To be clear, this is not the majority, right? This is how the really predatory aspect of it is young girls see the ones who are making $6 million, $8 million, never take their clothes off. and they're making no money and taking their clothes off and getting taken advantage of and all this other stuff.

36:11That's the fucked up part. So I do think the entire model is predatory, but it's more I'm hating the game than the player is my point. Yeah. It's worse than a Pareto distribution. I think it's like the top. 1% of those traders quote unquote traders, those whores can take something like 95% of the income yeah it's like the top 10 of them or something yeah and then everyone else is not making any money if you're out there, you're an OnlyFans subscriber I'm disappointed, if you're out there and it does get implemented and you're an OnlyFans subscriber If you get on a payment plan, I'm disgusted.

37:05I'm glad it was fake news. I see Silent.Link's app does 42,000 sats. Thank you, sir. Great service. eSIMS for your phone. Pay with Bitcoin. Silent.Link. I didn't catch this one. Israelis arrested over alleged insider polypore. He came out this morning. On IDF military secrets. Yeah, the buy now, pay later only fans was a good start off point. felt like for you. And then this was like, I don't know, this is going to, this was like right up my alley. This is going to happen more and more. As we've talked about many times on the show, prediction markets, the whole point is to incentivize leaking of non-public information so that people have a more accurate view of truth. I'm trying to right now get my robot to understand what's going on in the world better and one of the key metrics i'm using is he's tracking uh polymarket markets because it doesn't require an api it's all on polygon which is a shit i think a layer two on ethereum but the cool part is i i work it as a free api too you could use yeah but i think the cool part is that the whole thing is unchained so you don't have to go through

38:19the company's api um the hard part is you have to deal with like shit coins and stuff but you don't to deal with it if the bot deals with it. So the bot doesn't even have to have an account. He just needs a polygon wallet and he can view everything and trade on it. But anyway, so we will see, and we've joked around like what, like a guy's on a helicopter on the way into Venezuela and he's got his phone out trading or whatever. And this is like the first real world example of it.

38:49You're on mute now. Sorry, my boys are home. It's parent-teacher conference week, so they're off from school today and tomorrow. Prosecutors have alleged the Army Reservists accessed classified information about Israel planned attack on Iran in June 2025 and then shared it with the civilian to place multiple polymarket bets Most identifying details about the case of defendants remain classified, but prosecutors claim the pair are not senior officials in any military or government body.

39:20One of the defendants' attorneys, however, referred to their client as a highly regarded individual who has made a significant contribution to Israel's security. The attorney claims the charges are improper and constitutes selective enforcement. I wonder there was – and by the way, these prediction markets are completely useless if people can't use them anonymously because otherwise you won't get this kind of – you won't get the accurate ahead of time markets because you won't have insiders actually leak the information.

39:53But that doesn't mean that there's not a bunch of ways to try and catch insiders if you're trying to prevent that information from leaking. It's just going to take new techniques. Now, if you remember a few weeks ago, there was a market on Pali market that was U.S.-Israel strike Iran. And an account that had predicted correctly other Israeli strikes bet on it. and it popped up to like 85%, 90% and then didn't happen. Everyone on socials were like, oh, the war is about to start, blah, blah, blah, and it didn't happen.

40:30And a lot of speculation was, oh, it was the Israelis trying to spook the Iranians because the Iranians went into a full defensive position based on the poly market. They were like, we're about to get attacked. This account's been right in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out, or maybe we just never find out, because why I tell people that the IDF planted fake information for these two dudes and then waited till they made the trade. And so that trade that they made was the implication was like, okay, we caught the people that had the information.

41:04So they put fake information in their files or whatever, and then they got traded on. Well, that's certainly a possibility. And probably most likely considering what I just read on Yahoo Finance. But another thing, as you're explaining that, like maybe governments, they just begin betting in these ways to incite defensive reactions because maybe it's cheaper to get intel that way. I mean, but that was our original theory, right? That's definitely going to happen as well.

41:33That's what we were saying when it happened. But now with this coming out to light, this could very much be the reason. By the way, the reason you were reading that on just to lament the death of the internet and how we need to fix so many things. I saw this story break on Wall Street Journal. Went to Wall Street Journal, paywall. Went to archive.is. It seems like it's getting DDoS probably by a bunch of bots trying to archive things. Couldn't get it on archive.is.

42:03Searched the headline on Google to see if there was a non-paywalled site that had it. I found one that was the block, the Bitcoin news site, just filled with ads and pop-ups, just a really disappointing experience. And then this article is actually re-syndicated on Yahoo Finance from Decrypt, which is another shitcoin journalist, and it's just clean cut. But it's retarded. It's just like, come on, guys. There's like the paywallification and the ads.

42:40Yeah, and the bots should pay the SATs paywall and then send me my update. Yeah. I built it six years ago. You can go find it. It's open source, BTC Pay Server, Ghost. You can figure out the logic there. The bots will do it. And we get our Human Rights Foundation Financial Freedom Report story of the week out of Kenya. Central Bank warns banknote book bouquets like flowers I know, I know, I'm sick, I'm sick freaks please bear with me Central Bank warns banknote bouquets could land you in jail Kenya's Central Bank warned Kenyan's in the lead up to Valentine's Day that making bouquets out of colorful banknotes could be punished with a seven year jail term officials argue the banknotes used in bouquets are often folded rolled, glued, stapled, pinned or otherwise damaged which they say compromises the integrity, defaces the national currency, and increases the cost of replacing damage notes.

43:42For more stories like this, make sure you go to financialfreedomreport.org. Yeah, I mean most of the stories aren't like this, which is why I chose it. I just thought it was just a good example of clown world. I mean clearly the reason they're doing this punishment is because they don't want to be made fun of on social media for their shitty fucking currency. and they know it's viral. But it just shows how desperate they are that the way they're trying to stop that is with a seven-year sentence, which is insane.

44:17Yeah. Seeing it in the YouTube chat, who's better at golf, Odell or Bent? I reckon Odell, just a feeling. Your feeling is right, sir. We've played together before. You smoked me. Marty's getting better, though. Getting better, though. We, me and Marty, we, it was very early in our friendship. This now is seven years ago, 2019. We were just getting to know Rod, my co-founder of Bitcoin Park, and he was working at Bitcoin Magazine at the time. And we went in San Francisco.

44:51He belongs to like this really hoity-toity club as a out-of-state member. So he has a discount to be clear. But he, so he brings us to this hoity-toity golf club that he rarely plays out. He plays that maybe once or twice a year and we're his guests. And, you know, it's got to be a super expensive club. Anyway, Marty gets up on the first tee and just straight whiffs it. And then that was our, I think we ended up playing 36 holes, but that was the beginning of it.

45:22Yeah, we played both courses. He just dribbled it right in front of the pro shop. You know, it was just like everyone was looking straight. Went like 20 yards. You'll be happy to learn. I don't whiff my tee shots anymore. I will slice them every once in a while. It happens to the best of us. It was just wild. We finished 36 bowls and got back to the clubhouse and got shilled Libra token by one of the members we were playing with. I drank so much whiskey, they almost didn't let me on the plane afterwards.

46:01The woman at the ticket counter was like, i need you to step outside and sober up for a little bit before i give you your ticket and i argued with her i was like that's not how sober she's like step outside i was like okay i'll go step outside like he's like that's not gonna i'm not gonna like stand outside for five minutes it's gonna make me more sober yeah it was a fun trip fun trip first live rabbit hole recap on the roof of uh yeah the big conference 2019 in a garage we called the top we called the top at we didn't call the top. We told people to smash buy the top at $13,000 and then we went down for two and a half years after that.

46:39Yeah, it was a bull trap. We bull trapped everybody. Speaking of which... It was a good purchase. Speaking of which, everybody do your part and go smash buy right now. $65,500. This is cool. We got people vibe coding using Open Claw. Memple Madness has taken nostril by storm this week so um a couple things first of all the commoners apt is 21 112 sats palindrome boost says lfg let's fucking go thank you sir your support okay so mempool madness one of our buddies created this this is not our project um cool aspects here he has open claw is open source AI robot running on his Start9.

47:31So Start9 is an open source MIT licensed for-profit project, but it's fully open source. You can install Start9 on any type of computer you want to, or you can buy hardware directly from them. Their alpha firmware allows you to both host web apps in ClearNet and run OpenClaw. So he's running OpenClaw on his Start9 at home. Then he had to create this game. This game is being hosted on the start nine as well. And it's proxying through a VPS to protect his IP address.

48:02And you can just go to it at mempoolmadness.com. Now, he has his bot running a cash-you wallet using the CocoD skill. So it's running its own cash-you wallet. He's running LNBits to track bets and payouts. And the concept of the game, and then it uses the mempool.space API to track Bitcoin blocks. And the concept of the game is you're basically placing small bets, a thousand sats a pop on how long it's going to take for the next block to be confirmed from the last one.

48:34So on average, that should be 10 minutes. Obviously, it's not always 10 minutes. Right now we are in a hash rate increase difficulty period. So difficulty is expected to go up. So blocks are actually coming in sooner. The house takes no cut. 70% of the pot goes into the next round. uh nine percent goes 70 goes to the winner 21 goes to the next round nine percent is going to open sats which is also being happening with with as an open protocol because he was able to set this up without my permission because open sats has a lightning address so just automatically send sats to open sats at vlt.ge which is our lightning address to our node um and then last but not least a bot has a Noster account and is broadcasting out to the world every time someone wins.

49:26So you have this combination of open source self-hosted software, open protocols, money and communication identity with Noster and money with Bitcoin and Cashew. And he was able to spin it up in like six hours, eight hours or something of iterative improvements. He did the first prompt and then you started doing little improvements to it. And yeah, it's like a rudimentary proof of concept. But guys, this is fucking crazy. This is the early things of something that's a true game changer here.

50:02I'm playing right now. I'm going to see if I can win. By the way, Marty, to what I was saying earlier about recursive improvements of AI tools and stuff uh i like one prompted my bot to play this game yesterday or two days ago and it made like 200 000 sass it was fucking crushing it was doing great everything was going fantastic um you know woke up this morning bot has no idea what mempool madness is can't connect to it can't figure out what's going on. I tried to troubleshoot with him for like a half an hour, 35 minutes. I just, I told him I'm sick of him. I'm tired of him and I'm not going to try and set it up again.

50:54But at first he was able to, the first time I ever tried, he basically just one-shotted it. I was like, here's your strategy. It's a game of probability. Figure it out. He just figured it out. He paid with his own cashew wallet. He was getting payouts from his own cashew wallet. And now he just can't even fucking figure it out. Tony, you got to get the QMD. You got to have it. Use Opus 4.6 for like one run and just be like, audit your memory system.

51:21I want you to upload QMD and it'll do it and make it much better. Well, I just think it's hilarious. Is this the blog post you told me to just copy and paste my dude, right? Yes. in one of them. Yeah, so people are making improvements to their bots by just blindly copying and pasting blog posts that effectively teach them new skills and give it new. This is why there's going to be so many issues, but it's still fucking cool. It's really fucking cool.

51:54But to your point, having the bots do all this and connecting, I mean, this is the biggest boon for this freedom tech. I mean, we've been talking about it for eight years now, and I think this technology is the biggest boon for it that we've ever seen. It's the last piece. yeah yeah it it's the glue it's the glue that is going to bring everything together and makes all this stuff usable to the average person um get play if you guys haven't played with this yet highly recommend just playing around with it a little bit takes a bit of uh getting used to but i do think it is imperative particularly if you're working i've got my cousin my brother like i've been talking to them for the last two weeks like guys start using this for for stuff um i've been impressed by what they've been able to yeah an easy way to get your feet wet is cali has a new project called claw i.ai c-l-a-w-i.ai um ironically it doesn't accept bitcoin uh that's probably the biggest issue i have with it but you can use a two fiat number two f-i-a-t dot com prepaid bitcoin card um to pay for it if you want if you don't want to put your credit

53:14card information in but it's just really it's it's it's one of the easier ways to just get set up and running um and look it's not going to be your final setup like ideally you should be self-hosting these things then it has other nuances like you don't want to self-host just blindly on your own network and like have it have access to everything that's on your home wi-fi um so it's just a good it's it's an easy way to get started play with it don't give it anything too uh intimate you know like don't give it actual like credentials to your main email account or something like that be very deliberate about what information you give it but this is one of those things that like the only way you'll get comfortable with it and you'll see what the capabilities are is if you play with you have to play with it you can't listen to podcasts about it you can't watch videos about it you have to actually use the thing into our earlier conversation like the first step of the employment dynamic switching and the the the value capture within in our economy migrating is going to be people taking advantage of these tools and having a leg

54:28up on other people. So you will be at a disadvantage significantly if you don't play around with these things sooner rather than later, in my opinion. And they're the worst they're going to be. If you start today, it's going to be the worst that it ever is for you. Yeah. And like, yeah, once again, not a panacea. It's going to Oh, the other thing is, if you do use Kali's project, it uses open router on the back end. So you have access to all the different models. You got to be very careful about using about using the super high end ones, it gets really, really expensive. He added a change to that tells you the cost when you're switching models, which didn't exist before.

55:22But for instance, they measured in per 1 million tokens, which is like a metric for your calls to the AI model. Opus 4.6, which is widely considered the best one out of Anthropic and just the best one that exists right now for these things is $15 per 1 million. If you use Google's Gemini 3 Pro, it's only $2. So it's almost a 7x cost difference between the two. Then OpenRouter also has, it offers OpenAI's free model, GPT-OSS-120B, which fucking sucks, but it's completely free.

56:08So you can tell your agent things that don't matter as much, like use the free one for that. And you'll learn different ways. But I just want to be clear here because some of you might have the same intuition as me, which is you only want the best and you will end up $1,000 in the hole or something within a couple of days if you're just recklessly hitting the most expensive model. Since I set mine up a month ago, it was before anthropic caught on to people using their max pro 5x subscriptions too often and so i'm still grandfathered into that so i'm not hitting the api i'm using my max pro account to do all that's like you can't do that anymore right no yeah i spend so much and so and like it also matters like you have your your agent is once again an advanced toddler in a lot of ways like if you don't keep asking it how much money am i spending on tokens can we reduce the amount of token usage it will just go crazy with it so i i don't know this was probably after last episode yeah this was after last episode a freak posted on nostor that he wanted a bot that that knew all of rhr and could uh ask it questions and so there's been

57:30almost eight years of RHR, 400 episodes. So I had to transcribe all RHR transcripts, all RHR episodes to transcribe them automatically because there weren't existing transcripts for a bunch of the early episodes and then saved it in a file, 400 episodes of RHR. And I realized 24 hours later that it was saved in short-term memory, which is called the context window in these AI agents. And so it was every time I would ask it a simple question, this is just an example.

58:03I don't ask it with the weather, but like, what is the weather outside? It would send all 400, the transcripts of all 400 episodes of RHR to the LLM model. And I was getting charged like a crazy fucking amount. And then I realized I was getting charged so much. And I asked the AI agent, I asked the bot, I was like, what's going on here? He's like, oh, well, it looks like I've been sending all 400 episodes of RHR. Every time I ask a simple question, I probably shouldn't do that.

58:28It's like, yeah, you probably shouldn't fucking do that. Like, why are you doing that? Don do that So just keep that in mind But anyway once you figure it out then you start to see like now I have a separate file that is all the dispatch transcripts since the beginning of the show all the RHR transcripts since the beginning of the show. And then I can individually cue it to ask it questions and pull our collective brain resources that we've had for eight years, which is just great.

58:59Like that capability is fucking awesome. But if you do it in a naive way, it can cost you a lot of money. So just keep all this stuff in mind. Yeah. Another thing, I'm not sure how it works with Klawi.ai, Kali's thing. But if you're setting it up in a VPS and you're doing it the old-fashioned way, make sure you run it through Cloudflare or Tailscale because your server IP will be exposed. And that's how people hack it. So make sure you have a tunnel application between your server and the broader internet as well.

59:37Yeah, that's one of the nice aspects. Cali's service handles all that stuff for you. You end up paying a little bit more. It's worth it though. Especially if you're dealing with Bitcoin stuff. You don't want somebody getting into your server. Yeah, and you're just getting your feet wet. Convenience does help a lot here. Once again, I don't think this should be people's final setup. but it's a really easy way to get your feet wet yeah on uh how to do it and by the way like this is it's i think it's an interesting example of where we currently are with this tech is that i basically spun up that nostor rhr bot in one prompt within a couple hours once it finished the transcriptions like that was the easy part the hard part was doing it in an efficient way that didn't cost me a ton of money.

1:00:31But it actually was just like one or two prompts. I was like, here's the RSS feed, transcribe it. I want you to create a master bot that can respond to people. Yeah. I feel like Carlos would have been the one to make this, but it seems like he was slacking. Well, hopefully someone else makes it because there's kind of a mental burden to deal with, to be honest. But now I have my own. So I disabled in a fit of exhaustion. I just disabled the NostroBot.

1:01:00I was like, stop fucking posting. Stop looking up on the transcripts. I don't want to pay any more money. But now I have it. I've been using it myself. So maybe I'll re-enable the NostroBot at some point. The last two blocks that I've been on on mempoolmadness.com, I've come three seconds short of it hitting the block that I bet on. One more bet. I'm a degenerate. yeah i was so frustrated at my guy for failing to set it up again all right let's go i need i need this block to be mine between eight and nine minutes why'd you why'd you book one ahead of time oh someone else is in there oh see i think this guy is running a bot too. Mempool Madness.

1:01:57Is he front running me? He's going to run over your thing. What else have we got? What else happened this week? Epstein files? Dow's over 50k. We shouldn't worry about the Epstein files. What the fuck is that? I don't know. It was so bad. It's like completely out of touch. but she's the attorney general right bondi pam bondi yeah i mean it was clearly like a trump talking point and she just doesn't handle the deflection as well it's like you're the attorney general why are you quoting stock market prices uh to tell she's like the stock market is booming why are you talking about the epstein files it's like well uh you're the you're you're the lead prosecutor in the country and this seems like the one of the most important prosecutions that people want to see happen and you have absolutely fuck all to do with the stock market so what the fuck are you talking about it's like yeah these uh these people are emailing about uh human beef jerky that they were uh they were packaging and bringing to parties i think uh i don't think we want a bunch of cannibals running around uh the world it's like it'd be one thing if like they were asking

1:03:19besant his opinion on the epstein files and he's like i'm the treasury secretary the economy's going great but like imagine if you went into like a police department and you like talk to the detective and you're like yes someone broke into my house can you like figure out who broke into my house and he was like have you seen the stock market lately your charles schwab account is so high why are you asking me about the home break it's her fucking job yeah i would be surprised if she's attorney general for much longer after yesterday.

1:03:50That was an epic blunder, the likes of which I haven't seen in quite some time. Little capital hell. A lot of more productive stuff, though. We said it last week, nothing's going to happen. And that was just like a reinforcement. They don't seem like they really want to prosecute anybody as it pertains to the Epstein trial or the files being released. um important update favorite desktop wallet sparrow version 2.4.0 was released with the ability to send asylum payments hardware wallet support address display chunking wallet discovery for usb hardware wallets codex 32 support trevor safe 7 ledger nano gen 5 support keycard and keycard shell support love to see it by the way um a cool aspect here scroll down logan i feel like this is a cool nostor health metric look at all the zaps he got he got 50 000 zaps on uh on this post um i feel like that's just a seeing open source developers of like critical open source software release an update immediately be one of the most trending posts on nostr and receive a one of the larger zap loads that a post has gotten this week is like a really cool sign

1:05:16to see i mean that's that's where i'd like to see the future go um you know i i like to think open sets in a lot of ways is like a stop gap accelerant into a world where ideally bots and humans are funding maintainers of software projects that they need directly using Freedom Money. That's fucking cool. Yeah. Yeah. It's your freaks. We live in the future. Let's reboost from last week before we forget. All right. Let me pull it up. Since we're technically in software updates.

1:05:54I see on Nostar we got one from our asteroid dude. 21,000 sats from roaming and his meme, his emoji is the asteroid. I think it's an asteroid or a basketball. I think it's an asteroid. All right. You got three boosts to read from Rabbit Hole Recap. 395, stay humble and stack sats. February 6th. Yeah, that's right. Our girl Pringle Maxill. 88,888 sats. Sats8s across the board, Palindrome Boost. What a time to be alive. You two rock. See you both soon. Love, Syl and Tony.

1:06:33Can't wait to see you. Thank you for the support. Our boy, Foise. 25,252 Sats, Palindrome Boost. Shout out to all the Chicago Bitcoiners. Chicago has multiple meetups happening throughout the month between the city and the burbs. We're also working on Chicago's first physical Bitcoin hub that will function as a restaurant. Fork and Coin. And a workspace for Bitcoiners. Learn more at ChicagoBitcoinCollective.com. Shout out to Chicago. City near and dear to my heart.

1:07:03Stimmy, hashtag 40 hours per week. Podcast listing, 22,222 sats. Tunes across the board, pound drum boost. Bot-powered pig butchering is going to be wild. Taking those kingpins down in Southeast Asia might look like decapitating the Hydra. You got to beware. These bots are going to get you. Another thing, make sure you guys have safety words with your family. I'm seeing a lot of an increase in the amount of fake kidnappings and they'll call you and say we kidnapped your wife or it'll be your wife on the phone they kidnapped me and they need you to wire $10,000 to this bank account another good technique is to just like you signalize your communication method yeah and they're good at spoofing apparently the one I saw this week they like spoofed the number so well that like came up That's what I'm saying.

1:07:53Wife was actually called. Yeah. But they can't do that with a paired signal account. If you, if you already have an open signal chat with someone. Yeah. But yeah, it's going to get really messy. All this K like the whole infrastructure that our society is built on with you KYC and bot checks and stuff. Once again, I will repeat the fundamental change that we saw with open claw. it already was functionality that already existed. It wasn't like a technological breakthrough.

1:08:24First of all, it was open source. But second of all, it just made it easier to interact with these things. And specifically, it made it so that you can get around bot restrictions by just having it use a web browser and click around and go do things. So basically turned everything into an API in a very broken way, but still. um and so we're going to see mass impersonations of people audio generation video generation and this is going to break all these systems that our society is currently built on top of and we're going to have to kind of start fresh in a chaotic way um but yeah yeah be aware um we already talked about magma shout out to the emboss team i'm actually gonna be recording with Jesse tomorrow.

1:09:17This is cool. Our friend, good friend of the show. Justin Moon, Vibe Coded, something to make it easier for OpenClaw to communicate over Noster. So he built an OpenClaw extension for Marmot protocol, the protocol underneath it, and the encrypted messaging app, wait, noise. If you're comfortable running Vibe Coded Alpha software, please give it a try. Let me know how it goes. I tried to run this and almost broke everything. And then I got tired with my bot and I told him to forget everything I told him and to delete a bunch of shit.

1:09:56But this is the future. I was talking to Jeff G of Marmon and White Noise, lead maintainer. And they're working on a proper CLI client that's geared for bots, command line client that's geared for bots that they should hopefully be releasing in a few weeks. But this is a perfect example of open protocols being superior to the current status quo. Most people are using Telegram right now to communicate with their claw bots. Telegram is obviously a centralized company.

1:10:27Telegram itself does bot checks to try and stop accounts. So if you create a fresh Telegram account and you try and use a burner phone number, oftentimes it'll block your account. Other people are trying to use Signal. I successfully set up Signal and then it broke. to communicate with my bot. Signal is also actively trying to throttle Signal CLI connections and linking. They have like a bot prevention program, which is very counterintuitive in this current place we find ourselves in.

1:11:00So open protocols fix this, right? And connecting to your bot should be as simple as, this is my MPub message me using Marmot. It's obvious. It is really obvious. And I think what people miss when they say like agentic communications or agentic payments is one of the key aspects is the human to agent and agent to human part. And I think open protocols specifically really excel with that. And in that situation, they have to be simpler, right? You can get away with an agent to agent protocol that is complicated because the agent will figure it out, right?

1:11:38I said, I want my agent to trade on Polymarket. he's like you need usdce on matt on polygon to do this i was like well here's some bitcoin why don't you figure out how to get that and he just went and did all the complicated shit coin shit like he was on like uniswap and things and like found his way into his polygon wallet um so like he can figure all that out but when it comes to like a human trying to actually communicate i should be able to just say here's my mpub message me back i shouldn't be doing like a complicated pairing mechanism to make that happen.

1:12:09Yep. That's a great point. On the topic of Signal and Telegram, look and pull it up. I'm sure you saw this, but everything is borked. There was an Israeli company called Paragon, a security company, quote-unquote security. They've got a product called Graphite. They're hacking mercenaries. Yeah, a couple of their idiotic employees posted a selfie on LinkedIn with the sort of back end of their Graphite product in the background. And JSR was tweeting about it.

1:12:50He has a more detailed sort of infographic highlighting everything. It looks like signals, WhatsApp, Telegram, and a bunch of other apps. It looks like they have root access, kernel access to everybody's devices, essentially. To be clear here, because there's a point here where it can be an informative news item that helps people understand their risks, or it can be something that creates hopelessness among people in terms of security. The way Paragon works or NSO group with Pegasus is they collect zero days.

1:13:39They collect ways to compromise your device before they're public. And then they target individuals. So it's not mass surveillance. It's like, okay, you're a dissident. You're fighting against the Rwandan government. we are going to send you a WhatsApp message that has a hidden payload that compromises your entire phone. And then we're going to access different apps and stuff within your phone. Right. So like, they're not like, it's not them going into backend telegram servers or backend signal servers or whatever.

1:14:11It's them breaking into your phone and then accessing these different apps. And there's ways to protect yourself from it. First of all, if you're on Android, the best way to protect yourself is to use a de-Googled Android, specifically graphene. And ironically, that works with a pixel devices, Google pixel devices, because they allow you to unlock and relock the bootloader. If you're on iPhone, single best thing you can do is just be constantly updated to the most recent release. And then the second biggest thing you can do is they have a lockdown mode that secures iOS much stronger. But a lot of times what you see is their capabilities aren't, you know, the latest device with the latest updates, but most people don't have that.

1:14:57And they keep all of this very secretive. This group specifically, Paragon is, and same with NSO group, is like ex-Israeli intelligence. It's one of these startups that came out of Israel's like secretive NSA style units. I think it's like unit 8200, I think is the name of it. But what's interesting here, and so then they're technically a private company, and then they sell their services to governments. And then in the case of the United States, it's been argued that it doesn't break the Constitution because it's a private government that's doing it.

1:15:35So it's not like they need a warrant. But then they sell it to, you know, all these random tin pot dictators that usually wouldn't have these capabilities, right? random small countries that just pay like a couple hundred thousand dollars and they can pick a they can pick an enemy that they want to hack and get into and they're very secretive about their capabilities so in this case they posted a selfie onto linkedin and it had a bunch of their capabilities that people didn't know previously yeah thank you for clarifying i'm not trying to fear monger here but i think this individual they were targeting was in chechnya or something like that.

1:16:16Yeah, like all his information was on the back screen behind their selfie. Yeah. Retarded. Those people lost their job. Yeah. Not going to lie, I think I got to tap out. I'm like delusional weak right now. This sounds good. We got anything up there? No, I mean, I'm fine with rapping. I look I know I know vibes are down in the dumps right now with people particularly with Bitcoin price but also with everything else going on in the world keep your chin up don't get shaken out never do the future's bright it is the future's very bright we got each other if anything we got each other in the live chat freaks go play around with the freedom tech go have fun with your robots and your freedom tech did I win?

1:17:22no nobody won that round it's a brave new world out there I'm optimistic I am too thank you guys for joining us we will be back next week I will be in better form hopefully and uh Should be a fun day. If you haven't yet, listen to my civil dispatch with Alex Gleason and Marty's TFTC with Arbed Out. Both are great. I think you'll enjoy it. Getting back to the basics. Tech. The tech. We're here for the tech freaks. Always have been. Stay humble, StackSats.

1:18:05Peace and love. Okay.