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Second Life

Hosted by Who What Wear co-founder Hillary Kerr, Second Life spotlights successful women who have made major career changes. Guests share lessons they've learned through fearlessly daring to pivot, and how they've used skills from their "first lives" to navigate their winding career journe

New episodes: Weekly
Typical length: 45 min
Latest: 12 Oct 2026
Language: English

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12 Oct 2026 · 50 minNew

Danielle Pheloung: Cofounder of Phe Phe

Danielle Pheloung is a content creator and cofounder of the fashion brand Phe Phe. Before amassing a following on social media and starting her own clothing company, Pheloung worked in finance. She started her career as an analyst at Morgan Stanley and later transitioned to working for Goldman Sachs as a private wealth management associate. Meanwhile, her sister Brigette McHale, otherwise known as Acquired Style online, was experiencing immense success on social media. Encouraged by her sister's success, Pheloung decided to start posting on TikTok. She showcased her corporate style and daily…

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7 Oct 2026 · 43 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: WWW20 Presents: Chriselle Lim, the Internet's Original It Girl
This month marks Who What Wear's 20th anniversary! To celebrate, we're spending all of October with guests who have left an indelible mark on the fashion-and-beauty world and grown up alongside us over the past two decades. To kick things off, Hillary sits down with Chriselle Lim, one of the original fashion content creators. Lim began her career as a fashion blogger and YouTuber in the late 2000s, and over time, she paved the way for creators like herself to become a respected part of the fashion industry. In this episode, she looks back on the last 20 years of her life and career, shares…
5 Oct 2026 · 58 min
Rickie De Sole: Editor of Air Mail's Dress Code
Rickie De Sole is the editor of Air Mail’s style-and-fashion publication, Dress Code. De Sole started her career as a fashion assistant at Vanity Fair. After that, she moved into public relations at Prada, where she worked from 2007 to 2010. De Sole then returned to the world of fashion media at Vogue as a market editor, working her way up to accessories director. After, De Sole went to W Magazine, eventually becoming the fashion director before transitioning back to Vogue. There, she eventually gained the title of executive fashion director of Vogue.com. De Sole later pivoted to retail at…
30 Sep 2026 · 30 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Denim Consultant Benjamin Talley Smith Returns to Talk Fall Trends and the New Guest in Residence Denim Line
This week, Hillary sits down in studio with denim expert Benjamin Talley Smith. Talley Smith is a denim designer and consultant who works with the designers at your favorite brands—such as Khaite, Reformation, and J.Crew—to develop their denim lines. Today, he's chatting all about the new denim line he worked on for Gigi Hadid's brand, Guest in Residence, and his top trend predictions to look out for this fall. Watch this episode on our new YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠, and be sure to subscribe!
28 Sep 2026 · 51 min
Casey Lewis: Creator of After School
Casey Lewis is the creator of the Substack newsletter After School. However, before she was writing to an audience of tens of thousands, Lewis was writing about youth trends on her blog Teen Fashionista. Later on, she started at Teen Vogue as an intern, and over the course of her time there, she worked her way up to senior digital editor. She left Teen Vogue to create Clover Letter, a daily newsletter for teen girls, which gained traction quickly and eventually got acquired by AwesomenessTV. Lewis then transitioned to a senior editor role at New York magazine, but she missed writing. So in…
23 Sep 2026 · 34 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Designer Christian Cowan Unpacks His Buzzy NYFW S/S 27 Show
This week, Hillary chats with designer Christian Cowan about his buzzy spring/summer 2027 collection and showing at New York Fashion Week. They discuss his biggest inspirations, the brand's evolution over the past few seasons, and the countless celebrities who can't get enough of his designs. Plus, he shares whether or not bridal is on the horizon. Watch this episode on our new YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠, and be sure to subscribe!
21 Sep 2026 · 52 min
Second Listen: Lili Reinhart: Actor, Producer, and Founder of Personal Day Skincare
This week, we are giving a second listen to our very special episode with Lili Reinhart. Reinhart is an actor, producer, and founder of the skincare brand Personal Day. She knew she wanted to be an actor from a young age and spent her tween and teenage years auditioning, self-taping, and begging her parents to let her finish schooling online so she could concentrate on her craft. At 19, she was cast as Betty Cooper on the hit CW show Riverdale and spent the next seven years in a nonstop filming and production cycle. During this busy period of life, she still found time to pursue outside…
16 Sep 2026 · 27 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: New York Fashion Week S/S 27 Recap: Opulent Textiles, Unexpected Jewelry Styling, and Deconstructed Tailoring
This week, Who What Wear senior fashion editor Anna LaPlaca and Associate Director Kristen Nichols headed straight from their final shows to the studio to recap all things New York Fashion Week. They dive into it all, from their most anticipated shows to designers on the rise to the trends to look out for come spring. Plus, they reveal the best color to incorporate into your spring wardrobe.Watch this episode on our new YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠, and be sure to subscribe!
14 Sep 2026 · 55 min
Annie Meyers-Shyer: Author and Creator of "This Oak House"
Annie Meyers-Shyer is the creator of the social media phenomenon and book This Oak House. However, before embarking on a renovation project that would turn her into an "accidental influencer," Meyers-Shyer started her career in the fashion industry. She first worked for InStyle magazine and then Harper's Bazaar. For a period, she transitioned into the tech space as the fashion director of MySpace, but she soon returned to the traditional fashion space, working in PR at Chanel. After working at Chanel for six years, she left to focus on being a mom full-time. When her mother-in-law moved out…
9 Sep 2026 · 39 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Coach Creative Director Stuart Vevers on NYFW Prep, the Gen Z Coach Craze, and Designing Cult-Favorite Bags
This week, Hillary Kerr is joined by the prolific creative director of Coach: Stuart Vevers. Vevers has had a wide-ranging career, from his first job at Calvin Klein in the 1990s to his roles as creative director at both Mulberry and Loewe. He talks all things Coach, including the brand's legacy and its upcoming New York Fashion Week show—which is happening today! Plus, he shares how he approaches designing for the younger generations and why he thinks the Tabby and Brooklyn bags have gained cult followings. Watch this episode on our new YouTube channel, and be sure to subscribe!
7 Sep 2026 · 52 min
Jess Rona: Founder of Jess Rona Grooming Salon and Shmoop
Jess Rona is a content creator, the founder of Jess Rona Grooming Salon, and the founder of the new dogcare brand Shmoop. Before she had her own dog-grooming empire, Rona dreamed of becoming an actress. At 18, while pursuing her acting dreams, she got a job as a dog bather at PetSmart in Los Angeles. While working this job, she slowly began to learn how to groom as well. She took a break from dog grooming to move to New York City and start doing improv at the Upright Citizens Brigade. She ultimately returned to Los Angeles and began dog grooming once again, even participating in grooming…
2 Sep 2026 · 43 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Sterling Point Costume Designer Marissa Schwartz on Acing Gen Z Style and Where to Shop the Characters' Looks
Marissa Schwartz is the costume designer behind the hit new Amazon Prime Video series Sterling Point. The show has gained acclaim for its fresh perspective on the YA genre and its commitment to representing its Gen Z characters authentically in the dialogue, the acting, and, of course, the outfits. In this episode, Schwartz shares how she approached dressing each of the characters and which brands she leaned on—from Chanel to Bode to Still Here—to help tell the story. Watch this episode on our new YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠, and be sure to subscribe!
31 Aug 2026 · 54 min
Roxana Saidi: Founder and CEO of Táche
Roxana Saidi is the founder and CEO of Táche. However, before she founded her pistachio-milk brand, Saidi graduated with a degree in marketing and got her first job out of college in public relations in Los Angeles. She then founded a social media agency that eventually grew into a creative and brand strategy agency called Rx Social. She later moved to New York and transitioned into consulting, but while on a trip with her family, she was struck by an idea for a brand offering nut milk made from pistachios, which were a staple in her Middle Eastern household as a child. Her research proved…
26 Aug 2026 · 39 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Is the Era of Overproduced Weddings Finally Over? Wedding Expert Sunna Yassin Shares Where Wedding Trends Are Headed in 2027
This week, Who What Wear Editor in Chief Kat Collings chats with Sunna Yassin, an expert on all things weddings and cofounder of Bash Please. Yassin was one of the creative minds behind Alex Cooper's stunning destination wedding in 2024, and today, she is talking about where wedding trends are headed in 2027. Perhaps the most notable shift? Couples are moving away from overproducing their weddings, instead focusing on guest experience and making the details feel personal. Yassin shares how to achieve this level of authenticity through the invites, table arrangements, food, florals, and more.…
24 Aug 2026 · 49 min
Isabella Hughes: Cofounder and Chief Revenue Officer of Better Sour
Isabella Hughes is the cofounder and chief revenue officer of the sour-gummy brand Better Sour. However, before founding her candy company, Hughes, who was born and raised in Hawaii, began her career in the arts, curating and coordinating exhibitions for a variety of organizations in the United States and UAE. She always had an interest in entrepreneurship, so in 2014, she started her first company—a Middle Eastern–inspired ice cream brand called Lezzetli. Around the same time, she came up with the idea for her second business, a Hawaii-grown herbal iced tea brand called Shaka Tea, which was…
19 Aug 2026 · 31 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Founder of Diotima and Creative Director of Proenza Schouler Rachel Scott Talks Carrying On the Legacy of a Brand
This week, Who What Wear Editor in Chief Kat Collings sits down in studio with founder of Diotima and Creative Director of Proenza Schouler Rachel Scott. They discuss landing her role at Proenza Schouler and how she carries on the brand’s legacy, from inspiration all the way to the runway. Plus, Scott shares what we can expect for Proenza Schouler’s showing at New York Fashion Week next month. Watch this episode on our new YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠, and be sure to subscribe!
17 Aug 2026 · 45 min
Dr. Jill Biden: Educator and Former First Lady
Dr. Jill Biden is an educator, author, and former first and second lady of the United States. Dr. Biden began her career as a high school English teacher, and although her husband, then-Senator Joe Biden, had grand political aspirations, she continued to teach and further her own education. She earned two master's degrees as well as a doctorate and has worked as a reading specialist, in a psychiatric hospital, and as a community college English professor, among other roles. After her husband became vice president and then president, Dr. Biden became the first first lady in U.S. history to…
12 Aug 2026 · 34 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Rudy Mance, Costume Designer for FX's Love Story: John F. Kennedy Jr. & Carolyn Bessette, on Re-Creating CBK's Timeless Wardrobe
This week,⁠ Hillary Kerr⁠ sits down with⁠ Rudy Mance⁠, the costume designer for FX's Love Story: John F. Kennedy Jr. & Carolyn Bessette. Mance's résumé includes shows such as Pose and American Horror Story, but today, he's diving into how he accomplished the high-pressure task of replicating and reimagining CBK's iconic wardrobe. On this episode, they discuss it all, from re-creating her timeless wedding dress using an original fabric swatch to sourcing vintage pieces from Japan and Philadelphia to perfect a look. Watch this episode on our new⁠ YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and be sure to subscribe!
10 Aug 2026 · 57 min
Second Listen: Andrea Beaty: Award-Winning Children's Author
This week, we are giving a second listen to our very special episode with Andrea Beaty. Beaty is an award-winning children's author. Before she became known for her curious and clever characters in Rosie Revere, Engineer and Ada Twist, Scientist, she was on track for a career in STEM. In college, Beaty studied biology and computer science and then went on to work at a software company. It wasn't until she volunteered to write a tech support newsletter for a customer audience that she honed her skills as a writer and copy editor. She first tried her hand at fiction by writing stories inspired…
5 Aug 2026 · 41 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Celebrity Hairstylist Adir Abergel Talks Crafting Charlize Theron's Stunning "The Odyssey" Press Tour Hair
This week, Hillary Kerr chats with celebrity hairstylist and Creative Director of haircare brand Virtue Labs Adir Abergel. Abergel works with the likes of Kristen Stewart and Nicole Kidman, but today, he's here to talk about Charlize Theron's The Odyssey press tour looks. From styling her gravity-defying bob to the exact products he uses on his clients' hair to achieve such flawless results, they cover it all. Watch this episode on our new YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠, and be sure to subscribe!
3 Aug 2026 · 59 min
Second Listen: Renee Montgomery: Vice President and Part Owner of the Atlanta Dream
This week, we are giving a second listen to our very special episode with Renee Montgomery. Montgomery is the vice president and part owner of the WNBA team the Atlanta Dream. Before owning the team, Montgomery was a WNBA player on teams including the Dream, Minnesota Lynx, and Connecticut Sun. Before that, she played division one college basketball at the University of Connecticut. After 11 years as a professional WNBA player, Montgomery opted out of the 2020 season to focus on social justice and activism before retiring from the WNBA in 2021. Shortly after retiring, Montgomery became the…
29 Jul 2026 · 38 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Celebrity Stylist Micaela Erlanger Talks Dressing Lupita Nyong'o for Her Ethereal "The Odyssey" Press Tour
This week, Hillary Kerr chats with celebrity stylist Micaela Erlanger about crafting Lupita Nyong'o's looks for The Odyssey press tour. Erlanger shares how she drew inspiration from Greek mythology and Nyong'o's two characters in the film (Helen of Troy and Clytemnestra) to determine the perfect silhouettes and color palette for her looks. Plus, she chats all about her Emmy nomination for The Kelly Clarkson Show and everything that goes into styling for live TV. Listen to Erlanger’s Second Life episode! Watch this episode on our new YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠, and be sure to subscribe!
27 Jul 2026 · 57 min
Second Listen: Claudia Sulewski: Founder of Cyklar
This week, we are giving a second listen to our very special episode with Claudia Sulewski. Sulewski is the founder of Cyklar, a bodycare brand that bridges the gap between luxurious self-care and efficacious formulas. Before becoming a beauty founder, Sulewski was one of the original beauty YouTubers. She started her YouTube channel when she was just 13 years old, under the name BeyondBeautyStar, posting makeup tutorials, vlogs, and other lifestyle content. By the time she graduated high school, she’d grown a massive following that allowed her to monetize her content as an official YouTube…
22 Jul 2026 · 25 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Celebrity Stylist Molly Dickson on Dressing the New Elle Woods
This week on The Who What Wear Podcast, Hillary Kerr chats with celebrity stylist Molly Dickson, whose client roster includes the likes of Lana Del Rey, Sydney Sweeney, Sadie Sink, and, most recently, Lexi Minetree on her Elle press tour. Today, Dickson’s giving us the rundown on everything that went into dressing the new Elle Woods—from paying homage to Legally Blonde on the red carpet to pulling inspiration from early 2000s Reese Witherspoon. Plus, she shares the perfect Y2K pieces she pulled from Witherspoon’s personal archives. Listen to Molly’s previous episode here! Watch this episode…
20 Jul 2026 · 55 min
Cassandra Morales Thurswell: Founder and CEO of Kitsch
Cassandra Morales Thurswell is the founder and CEO of Kitsch. However, before starting her haircare and accessories brand, she founded several entrepreneurial endeavors: She opened a restaurant and boutique with her mother, launched a jewelry business, worked at a clothing store, and managed a cupcake shop. She then transitioned to running a series of small businesses, including a spray-tanning company and an inspirational-quote scarf brand, before taking a job designing jewelry for retailers like Forever 21 and Urban Outfitters. At age 25, she started Kitsch with $30,000 in savings and a…
15 Jul 2026 · 20 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: Everything You Need From the Nordstrom Anniversary Sale With Fashion Director Linda Cui Zhang
This week on the Who What Wear Podcast, Who What Wear Shopping Director Bobby Schuessler sits down with Nordstrom Fashion Director Linda Cui Zhang to talk about Nordstrom's 125th Anniversary Sale. Cui Zhang and Schuessler give the full rundown on everything from the trends in the 9 to Know section to the 50 new brands debuting in the sale. Plus, Cui Zhang is sharing the one item she would recommend everyone buys from this year's sale. Make sure to shop Nordstrom's 125th Anniversary Sale, starting July 18. Watch this episode on our new YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠, and be sure to subscribe!
13 Jul 2026 · 55 min
Lauren Wang: CEO and Founder of The Flex Company
Lauren Wang is the CEO and founder of period-product brand The Flex Company. Before even graduating college, Wang held several positions. At just age 15, she freelanced as an HTML website builder. Then during college, she took classes at night while working for IBM and Coca-Cola on their respective marketing teams. A couple years after graduating college, she moved to San Francisco to work in tech at companies such as Autodesk and Upwork. In 2013, after many years of struggling to find period products that worked for her, Wang came up with her initial idea for a better period product. She…
8 Jul 2026 · 30 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: "Elle" Costume Designer Sara Byblow on Storytelling Through Shades of Pink and the Legacy of Elle Woods's Style
This week, Who What Wear Editor in Chief Kat Collings sits down with Sara Byblow, the costume designer of the new Legally Blonde prequel Elle. They discuss keeping the legacy of Elle Woods's iconic style alive, sourcing more than 70 looks for young Elle's wardrobe, and the meaning behind different shades of pink in the show. Plus, Byblow shares which wardrobe staples carried over from Legally Blonde. Watch this episode on our new ⁠YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠, and be sure to subscribe!
6 Jul 2026 · 57 min
Beatriz de los Mozos: Founder and CEO of Flabelus
Beatriz de los Mozos is the founder and CEO of the shoe brand Flabelus. Before founding her own brand, de los Mozos earned a law degree and a master's degree in comparative politics. She began her professional career in law in London and then transitioned to a legal startup, where she took on the role of sales manager and senior legal expert. However, after her doctor told her that she could no longer wear her favorite shoes due to scoliosis, she came up with an idea for a shoe that would be both comfortable and stylish. She set up a Kickstarter campaign, found a Spanish factory to produce…
1 Jul 2026 · 28 min
The Who What Wear Podcast: The 2026 Who What Wear 100 Beauty Awards
For the third year in a row, the Who What Wear beauty editors have tested nearly 1000 products and tools and whittled them down to a list of their top 100 items to shop. The team tested for efficacy, innovation, and lovability across seven categories: makeup, tools, fragrance, hair, skincare, nails, and body. Beauty Director Erin Jahns is back on the pod to share her team’s findings, including four new special-recognition categories: Timeless Classic, Social Media Sensation, Worth the Investment, and High Impact, Low Price. Read the full 2026 Who What Wear 100 Beauty Awards story here! Watch…

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Second Life is a English business podcast from Second Life. Melo plays each episode straight from the publisher's own feed — no ads added, no account needed — and remembers where you stopped, in this browser only.

Publisher: Second Life
Language: English
Category: Business
New episodes: Weekly
Typical length: 45 min
Latest episode: 12 Oct 2026
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