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Steve Jobs in Exile

8 Oct 2026 · 2 hr 2 min

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The popular story of Steve Jobs is that he co-founded Apple, was pushed out, wandered through a failed venture called NeXT, then returned to save the company and usher in the iPod and iPhone. That version is memorable, widely repeated, and, in an important sense, wrong. His years at NeXT are usually treated as a footnote, when they were among the most consequential of his life and career. Geoffrey Cain is the author of Steve Jobs in Exile, which draws on previously unpublished material and new interviews to illuminate the NeXT years. The book argues that NeXT was not a failure but the hidden…

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