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For decades, formal methods were considered theoretical exercises locked in academic labs—too brittle, complicated, and expensive for most production software. But as vital systems and AI-driven infrastructure face ever greater challenges, just testing edge cases by hand is no longer enough. Today, we're joined by Anjana Rajan and Jonathan Ring, co-founders of Atalanta, to explore how they are bridging the software understanding gap. They break down how to take high-level mission objectives and translate them into code-level proofs without needing a PhD in mathematics. From securing…
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The BugBash Podcast
Antithesis · Tech & Science · English
The BugBash podcast is a lively look at all aspects of software reliability, by enthusiasts, for everyone. Each episode brings leading engineers and researchers together for deep dives on everything from formal methods to testing to observability to human factors. There’s concrete advice on best pr
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