When the business world moves, these are the leaders making the decisions that shape it. The CEO Signal is a new show hosted by Penny Pritzker — investor, business builder, and former U.S. Secretary of Commerce — and Andrew Edgecliffe-Johnson, Semafor’s CEO Editor. Episodes are released every two we
“Relief or regret?” That is the question Motorola Solutions Chairman and CEO Greg Brown uses to test consequential decisions. In a candid conversation with Penny Pritzker and Andrew Edgecliffe-Johnson, Brown explains how nearly two decades of reinvention, activist pressure and private-equity involvement changed the way he leads. Working with activists made him more accountable and pushed him, he says, from thinking “like a manager” to thinking “like an owner.” He is equally open about the moments when that judgment was tested. When Motorola Solutions’ board considered selling the company,…
United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby wants to build what he calls the “undisputed flag carrier of the United States.” He argues that airlines are not commodities and that greater scale could benefit customers, but acknowledges a fundamental obstacle to consolidation: “We can’t get it done without a willing partner, and we don’t have one.” In this episode of The CEO Signal, Kirby discusses the decade-long push to transform United and how he thinks about the bets required to do it. A former card counter who says senior executives should play high-stakes poker with their own money, Kirby warns…
Jon Gray, chief operating officer of the $1.3 trillion asset manager Blackstone, says one of the firm’s distinguishing habits is to “go big” when it finds a theme it believes in. But he also says successful convictions need to be challenged, particularly as Blackstone invests heavily around artificial intelligence. “You keep pressing against what you’re doing to confirm that you haven’t just sort of fallen in love,” he says. In this episode of The CEO Signal, Gray describes investing as “pattern recognition”: finding “good neighborhoods,” and connecting the dots before others do. Hosted by…
Netflix co-founder and former CEO Reed Hastings says AI could unleash a new wave of “creative destruction” as companies use rapidly improving technology not just to cut costs, but to challenge competitors and build new businesses. In this episode of The CEO Signal, Hastings notes that AI has been getting “roughly twice as good every year” and says CEOs should think of it as the equivalent of doubling their workforce. He also explains why it’s not the paranoid who survive “it’s really the people who have judgment” — leaders who can distinguish the threats and opportunities that truly matter.…
Affirm founder and CEO Max Levchin built his company to behave like your “smarter older sister”: helping customers make better decisions rather than profiting from their mistakes. In this episode of The CEO Signal, he explains how that philosophy shaped Affirm and why it may become even more important as AI transforms consumer finance. Hosted by Penny Pritzker and Andrew Edgecliffe-Johnson, the conversation explores how Levchin has translated that philosophy into Affirm’s products, culture and decision-making as the company has grown. He also explains how his identity as an “immigrant…
Patrice Louvet says Ralph Lauren left about $1 billion in revenue on the table as it pulled back from places where, “frankly, we weren’t proud of being.” When he became CEO in 2017, the company had stretched its brand too far. His challenge was to restore the brand without compromising the creative “magic” that made Ralph Lauren distinctive. After nearly three decades at Procter & Gamble, Louvet came from a world of data, structure and business logic. At Ralph Lauren, he had to learn when the numbers should lead and when they should follow the magic. Defining the company as being in the…
In this episode of The CEO Signal, Chuck Robbins talks about the people decisions behind a transformation as sweeping as Cisco's repositioning for the age of AI. He says executives need to “disagree and commit,” but warns that CEOs shouldn't tolerate people who aren't on board with the strategy. “The one thing that is like death in an organization is passive aggressive behavior,” he says. Hosted by Penny Pritzker and Andrew Edgecliffe-Johnson, the conversation explores how Robbins has pushed Cisco beyond its traditional networking hardware roots toward software, security, recurring revenue…
"There should be more voices" in the corporate world speaking up on societal issues, Allstate CEO Tom Wilson says in this episode of The CEO Signal. “CEOs need to stand up and decide what’s important to them, what’s important to their customers — and take a stand.” Wilson has led Allstate for nearly two decades, running a business built on trust at a time when trust in America is under pressure. He explains why declining trust is not just a social problem, but a business risk for an insurance company whose promise is to be there when customers need it most. Wilson discusses why he believes…
“If somebody’s going to punch me, I’m going to punch back,” Verizon CEO Dan Schulman says in this episode of The CEO Signal. Schulman, who came out of retirement six months ago to lead the $200 billion telecoms company, reveals that he initially turned the job down — twice. But his mandate is blunt: stop losing customers to its rivals, regain Verizon’s “swagger,” and move it from a defensive posture to one that is “playing to win.” That reset has come with hard choices. Schulman discusses Verizon’s major restructuring, why he chose to announce 13,000 job cuts all at once rather than “bleed…
What does it take to make big bets inside a public company? In this episode of The CEO Signal, IBM Chairman and CEO Arvind Krishna discusses how he thinks about major strategic decisions at a moment of rapid technological change — from hybrid cloud to AI and quantum. At the center of the conversation is IBM’s acquisition of Red Hat — a decision Krishna helped drive before becoming CEO, and one that reveals how he thinks about conviction, resistance, and making a consequential call before the outcome is obvious. Krishna explains why IBM chose to bet on hybrid cloud rather than try to become…
What does it take to hand over a company after years at the helm? Dame Emma Walmsley reflects on her tenure as CEO of GSK at the moment she was preparing to hand over to her successor, Luke Miels. It’s a rare chance to hear a CEO reflect on the full arc of their tenure, from stepping into the role to shaping their own succession. After nearly a decade leading one of the world’s largest pharmaceutical companies, Walmsley speaks candidly about the realities of the job, from navigating activist pressure to reshaping the company’s strategy and structure. At the core is responsibility. “No one…
Why do some CEOs run toward the hardest challenges in business? In the first episode of The CEO Signal, Starbucks CEO Brian Niccol joins hosts Penny Pritzker and Andrew Edgecliffe-Johnson to discuss the leadership mindset behind one of the most closely watched turnaround stories in global business. Niccol has built a reputation for stepping into difficult situations. He previously led Chipotle through its recovery following the company’s food safety crisis — and before that took on struggling brands earlier in his career. Now he’s tackling a new challenge at Starbucks, a company under…
When the business world moves, these are the people turning the wheel. Introducing The CEO Signal, a new show hosted by Penny Pritzker and Andrew Edgecliffe-Johnson. Episodes are released every two weeks. Building on The CEO Signal newsletter, the essential briefing read by the world’s top chief executives, the show brings that perspective to revealing conversations with the people steering the world’s biggest companies.
About The CEO Signal
When the business world moves, these are the leaders making the decisions that shape it. The CEO Signal is a new show hosted by Penny Pritzker — investor, business builder, and former U.S. Secretary of Commerce — and Andrew Edgecliffe-Johnson, Semafor’s CEO Editor. Episodes are released every two weeks. Building on The CEO Signal newsletter, read by the world’s top chief executives, the show brings that perspective to candid conversations with the leaders running the world’s biggest companies. The CEO Signal is presented by PwC.
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