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The National Security Law Podcast

by Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck · English · News

Unpacking the Legal Issues Behind the Headlines

New episodes: Monthly
Typical length: 1 hr 8 min
Latest: 7 Aug 2024
Language: English

Latest episode

7 Aug 2024 · 1 hr 11 min

Episode 247: Deal, No Deal

Hello friends, and welcome back to the NSL Podcast with Professor Vladeck and Dean Chesney. Tune in for a detailed discussion of the bizarre plea-deal-wait-nevermind-no-plea-deal situation that unfolded last week in relation to three of the four remaining military commission defendants in the 9/11 prosecution, as well as a breakdown of the Supreme Court’s presidential immunity (from prosecution) case. Do these guys spend too much time talking about the Mets, and Star Wars, and House of the Dragon/Game of Thrones? Well, yes, sure, but it beats having the show interrupted by advertisements, no?

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Earlier episodes 29 most recent

20 Jun 2024 · 1 hr 21 min
Episode 246: Around the Drain in 80 Days
Betcha thought we were done…but we’re back! Tune in as Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate the latest (ok, some of this stuff is months old) national security law and related developments, including: The renewal of Section 702 (aka our first contribution to the rapidly-upcoming debate over the next renewal) The conviction of the former president in New York Court (and the prospects for SCOTUS to get involved) Speaking of SCOTUS: we’re waiting on a *LOT* of big decisions over the next two weeks, including the presidential immunity claim, social media content moderation…
2 Apr 2024 · 1 hr 27 min
Episode 245: 100 Days Later…
Hello, is this thing on? Check one, check two…testing, testing. We’re good? Alright alright alright… It’s been 100 days between shows. Thought maybe the world might be calmer if we waited a bit, but no such luck! We are, however, very glad to be back on the air with a fresh (and rather long!) episode. Tune in for topics including: Israel & Hamas Ukraine & Russia America & the Houthis 702 renewal TikTok & prospects for the divestment bill prevailing vs a First Amendment challenge All sorts of Trump litigation All sorts of Texas border stuff (invasion as a constitutional concept, state-level…
23 Dec 2023 · 1 hr 12 min
Episode 244: Not Our 30th Episode of 2023
Barring an unlikely spate of more than a dozen episodes happening over the next week, it sure looks like Steve has won his bet with Bobby, for this marks the 16th episode of 2023. Ouch, that’s not even *close* to the 30-show target! But tune in anyway if you are interested in a thorough overview of what is and is not clear about the Colorado Supreme Court’s decision disqualifying Donald Trump from the ballot under color of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment (that is, on grounds that Trump had engaged in insurrection).
28 Nov 2023 · 1 hr 19 min
Episode 243: Boiled Froggy Water Under the Bridge
Two months between episodes? Looks like someone will be buying Steve a dinner at the conclusion of 2023 (barring a pivot to posting new episodes every day). As for what is on tap in episode 243: Israel and Gaza: a review of key international law issues The United States and Iran: a review of key domestic law issues Trumplandia: checking in on, like, 17 separate cases currently underway As for frivolity: there are some (inevitable) ramblings about football, but much more frivolous than that is the ad hoc holiday favorites playlist…
29 Sep 2023
Episode 242: A Rule of Law (and Punctuation) Free Episode!
Sorry about accidentally taking the whole month off, but we’re back with a classic: tune in for the 9/11 case warm-up, and stick around for 45 minutes of wrangling over the PCLOB Report on Section 702! And, yes, frivolity, always frivolity (wherein we discuss the musical Six, football, and gargantuan mismatches).
22 Aug 2023 · 1 hr 16 min
Episode 241: Let’s Barbie!
Tune in for the latest, in which we discuss life as a fall 1L, RICO, removal, Nashiri, Bahlul, Shimari, Barbie, and Silo. And if all those names mean something to you…well, you are among the select few, and this pod is for you!
8 Aug 2023 · 1 hr 4 min
Episode 240: Something Got Released
If you are interested in a detailed and careful explanation of the charges at issue in United States v. Trump (the recent indictment of the former president in relation to his effort to overturn the results of the election), the way that the alleged facts related to those offenses, and the relatives strengths and weaknesses of the most likely defenses…well, this is the show for you. Though co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney originally planned to discuss an array of topics in addition to reviewing the latest indictment of the former president, they ended up spending the entire hour on…
11 Jul 2023 · 1 hr 22 min
Episode 239: We Have Many Tapestries!
Well, it’s been about a month, so it’s good we are finally back with a fresh episode! Tune in as hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney kick the tires on: The New York Times story (per Charlie Savage) on the Biden Administration’s October ’22 revised policy guidance on kill/capture operations outside areas of active hostilities Touching base with the will-it-ever-end (no) Nashiri litigation The National Guard, federal court-martial jurisdiction for members not in federal service, and the Fifth Circuit Missouri v. Biden : a stunning injunction (and 155-page underlying memo) limiting the…
12 Jun 2023 · 59 min
Episode 238: The World Wonders
Today’s episode focuses on the indictment in United States v. Donald Trump and Waltine Nauta , S.D. Fla. (23-80101-CR). Co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney walk you through the factual allegations, the crimes charged, the areas where tricky evidence questions might arise, the process for selecting the presiding judge, and the prospects for an array of things including: recusal; a Presidential Records Act defense; a I-declassified-this-stuff defense; a pre-verdict Rule 29 motion for judgment of acquittal; and a trial occurring around the time of the election. Buckle up and tune in!
25 Apr 2023 · 1 hr 19 min
Episode 237: Are You Not Detained???
And we're back, with co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney breaking down the latest national security law news along with much else. This week the spotlight is on the D.C. Circuit's en banc decision in al Hela, which grapples with the applicability of the Fifth Amendment Due Process Clause (in both its procedural and substantive aspects) to GTMO detainees. We've also got an update on the Badilla contractor immunity case (in which Steve plays a role as counsel to the plaintiffs), some Shadow Docket developments, and notes on the prosecutorial aspects of Cold War II.
5 Apr 2023 · 51 min
Episode 236: Damn the Torpedoes!
Good morning! Episode 236 covers: The Trump Indictment The Biden Administration's Executive Order on Abusive Commercial Spyware A CENTCOM strike against an IS target in Syria The future of private prosecutors?
16 Mar 2023 · 1 hr 9 min
Episode 235: A Drone Struck
We're back with a Spring Break edition, featuring: ICC cases emerging against Russian defendants for (1) removing children from Ukraine to Russia and (2) attacking civilian infrastructure A UK drone strike in Syria, a US drone strike in Yemen, and a US drone struck (by the Russians) Renewal of Section 702 and the Rep. LaHood story TikTok, CFIUS, and the RESTRICT Act Another GTMO transfer Possible repeal of the 2002 and 1991 Iraq AUMFs And an early start to the annual Mets demoralization process.
23 Feb 2023 · 1 hr 8 min
Episode 234: Not *That* Linda Hamilton
Are you ready for a DEEP DIVE? We've got an extended conversation today explaining the stakes and anticipating the outcomes in two cases argued in front of SCOTUS this week: Google v. Gonzalez and Twitter v. Taamneh. The cases present questions about the scope of civil liability under the Anti-Terrorism Act in the aiding-and-abetting context (as applied to the use of social media platforms by terrorist groups) and the proper interpretation of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act and its protection of such platforms.
14 Feb 2023 · 1 hr 13 min
Episode 233: This Episode Was (Not) Written by ChatGPT
We are delighted this week to feature two Texas Law students -- Sam Libby and Alex Rigby -- who earned the chance to co-host the show with us thanks to their generosity supporting the Texas Law Fellowships program (a charitable endeavor that supports Texas Law students doing summer public interest work). Join us as we talk about just how it is that Prime Minister Trudeau can be involved in orders that result in American F-22s taking out a UFO, a largely-unremarked material support prosecution that twenty years ago very well could have resulted in a high-profile dispute over military…
9 Feb 2023 · 41 min
Episode 232: Top Gun 3: Deflategate!
After a week with no electricity, Professors Vladeck and Chesney are back with the latest in national security law news. Tune in for discussions of: the law (or lack thereof) when it comes to balloons, altitude, and aerial espionage sanctions on the Wagner Group and also on various Russians associated with ransomware FBI and DOJ disrupting the Hive ransomware group Majid Khan transferred from GTMO to ... Belize? Ted Olson on the military commissions process Finally, you'll want to watch SNL's "HBO Mario Kart": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiIRlg4Xr5w
24 Jan 2023 · 55 min
Episode 231: If You Go to Washington Don’t Crime There
What's this, a one-week turnaround between shows? Will wonders never cease? In a throwback to the days of this being a weekly show, your co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck are back on a quick turnaround in order to debate and discuss: A new seditious conspiracy conviction arising out of Jan. 6 A New York State "material support" prosecution (State v. el Faisal) Various SCOTUS updates Any classified documents that we might have found when cleaning up the ol' office The shocking arrest of the former FBI Special Agent in Charge of the Counterintelligence Division at FBI's NY Field Office…
17 Jan 2023 · 55 min
Episode 230, Not Section 230
Wouldn't want you to be misled by the episode number (though we do actually foreshadow some future Section 230 coverage in light of an upcoming pair of SCOTUS cases)! At any rate: tune in as Professors Chesney and Vladeck discuss what is and isn't similar about the Trump and Biden classified documents scenarios; the relative authority of the President and Congress under the Arms Export Control Act (in light of the potential sale of F16s to Turkey); the 21st anniversary of GTMO; the indictment of a Chinese man who harassed a fellow student at the Berklee School of Music based on the victim's…
2 Jan 2023 · 1 hr 15 min
Episode 229: We Are Not Not Going to Post Weekly in 2023 Maybe
Happy 2023 y'all! We are off to a quick start this year. Tune in as Professors Vladeck and Chesney discuss recent developments, including: The Supreme Court's "Title 42"-related action in Arizona v. Mayorkas Highlights from the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year '23 (including a National Guard reform that did not make it, and a newly-clarified authorization for Cyber Command that did) Central Command's year-end summary of its counter-ISIS operations in Syria and Iraq in 2022 (including remarkable statistics on the scale of detention administered by both Iraq and the SDF) Call…
13 Dec 2022 · 1 hr 6 min
Episode 228: Not *That* George Clinton!
Holiday edition! Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss the rapid demise of the attempt by Donald Trump's lawyers to use Executive Privilege in relation to the classified documents found at Mar a Lago, the arrival in the US of a former Libyan intelligence officer charged with a key role in the horrific bombing of Pan Am 103 in 1988, the arrival in the US of a Mauritanian man charged with several terrorist attacks in Mali, the arrival in the US of erstwhile crypto exchange entrepreneur Sam Bankman-Fried to face charges stemming from that total dumpster fire. And,…
14 Nov 2022 · 1 hr 12 min
Episode 227: Maybe This Episode Should Pay to Get Verified
Hello friends! We're back with a new episode. Tune in as Professor Steve Vladeck and Dean Bobby Chesney chat about (1) the fate of Twitter, (2) the national security implications of the election results, (3) a just-released 2016 NSA IG report, (4) the latest GTMO transfer, (5) Bobby's just-published Harvard Law Review piece (concerning two SCOTUS cases last year which touched on the state secrets privilege), (6) Steve's brand-new substack newsletter--One First--exploring all things SCOTUS, and (7) House of the Dragon.
18 Oct 2022 · 51 min
Episode 226: What Is a Court Anyway?
So, it's been a while...but we're back! And it's time to buy Steve's book on the Supreme Court's Shadow Docket: tinyurl.com/shadowdocket Meanwhile, in today's episode, we'll review the ongoing Mar-a-Lago documents litigation, the Jan. 6 Committee's subpoena to ex-president Donald Trump, the Biden Administration's new policy memorandum on lethal force outside areas of active hostilities, the Justice Department's new update to its state secrets privilege process policy, the new executive order on handling of EU citizen data in the context of American intelligence gathering, Steve's latest…
1 Sep 2022 · 54 min
Episode 225: Appetite for Obstruction
Hello, and welcome back to the National Security Law Podcast, with co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck! In this episode, we dig into the latest filings in the Mar-a-Lago classified documents/presidential records litigation, emphasizing the mounting reasons to believe that the first charges we might see in relation to all of this will involve not the underlying questions about unlawful retention of presidential records or national defense information, but "investigative offenses" such as obstruction of justice. We also touch on "Nashiri Day," explaining what that anniversary signifies,…
16 Aug 2022 · 1 hr 32 min
Episode 224: Mar-a-Lag-o-Palooza
After just one week, incredibly, we are back! And we're joined by two of our fantastic Texas Law students. Ryan Brown and Adam Goodrum won the right to guest host at last year's public-interest auction at Texas Law, and as it happens they signed up for the episode coinciding with the unsealing of the now-famous Mar-a-Lago search warrant! If you are itching for a nearly line-by-line breakdown of the three criminal statutes mentioned in the search warrant application (as well as a key statute that is not mentioned), this is the show for you. And if you also might be interested in a…
9 Aug 2022 · 1 hr 23 min
Episode 223: The Search for Episode 222!
Well, the original idea was to have a short episode about the strike that killed al Zawahiri, and to recap the D.C. Circuit's Larabee ruling. But then just before showtime, we learned of the FBI executing a warrant at Mar-a-Lago, not to mention an avalanche of awfully-inflammatory commentary about the significance of this event. Between that and the Mets on a hot streak, we ended up with a lot to discuss! Tune in for all the classic hits, such as: What is the legal significance of a formal surrender agreement in relation to the domestic law effect of a Declaration of War?
28 Jun 2022 · 52 min
Episode 221: GWOT Shots, Part Deux
And we're back, with yet another interminable window of extemporaneous frivolity at the front end of what otherwise is a somewhat serious show about the latest national security law developments and debates (seriously). Listen up as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss Russia's denial of combatant immunity to foreign fighters in Ukraine (including some Americans), how this pertains to mercenary status, how it compares to US policies on al Qaeda and Taliban fighters, how this in turn relates to the Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi plea deal at GTMO, how speaking of GTMO they transferred Gul…
7 Jun 2022 · 1 hr 3 min
Episode 220: This Podcast Made the Kessel Run In Less than 12 Parsecs
And...we're back, and in less than a month, remarkably! Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss (1) the latest seditious conspiracy indictment arising out of January 6th, (2) the Navarro contempt of Congress charge, (3) the latest developments in the lawsuits challenging the Texas and Florida social media content-moderation laws, and (4) enforcement of Commerce Department licensing rules designed to prevent certain US-made aircraft from being taken to Russia (or Belarus) and the way this resulted in what ultimately will be a $400m loss for Roman Abramovich. That, plus…
17 May 2022 · 52 min
Episode 219: And the Podcast Host-Designate Is …
Some of y'all were wondering if the show was done-for now that co-host Bobby Chesney has been named the next dean of the University of Texas School of Law. But as it turns out, the main impact of that on the show probably will be no more and no less than to take the level of preparation that he and co-host Steve Vladeck put into things to new lows! All of which is a long-winded way of saying: we're back with a fresh episode, this time focused on (1) discussion of the leak(s) associated with the Supreme Court's Dobbs case and (2) a review of what a war-crimes analysis might entail as applied…
27 Apr 2022 · 58 min
Episode 218: From 28(j) to Enterprise-J
Ok, ok, it's been a full month since the last episode. But good things come to those who wait! We are back, and hope you'll tune in as co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck discuss the latest in national security legal news, including: The questions associated with neutrality and co-belligerency (and especially "qualified neutrality") in relation to US and allied support to Ukraine in the Ukraine-Russia War The Supreme Court's decision to grant a stay in Lloyd Austin v. U.S. Navy SEALS 1-26, in relation to a district court order (based on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act) barring the…
28 Mar 2022 · 57 min
Episode 217: Talking With Matt Olsen About DOJ National Security Division
What a treat we have for you this week! Assistant Attorney General Matt Olsen, head of DOJ's National Security Division, sits down with co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck to talk about a wide range of NSD-related topics: the origins of NSD the Section 702 sunset next year indictments against Russian hackers sanctions enforcement focusing on China's commercial espionage and transnational repression the continuing international terrorism threat the growing domestic terrorism threat

About The National Security Law Podcast

Unpacking the Legal Issues Behind the Headlines

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Latest episode: 7 Aug 2024
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The National Security Law Podcast

Latest episode

Episode 247: Deal, No Deal

Earlier episodes 29 most recent

Episode 246: Around the Drain in 80 Days

Episode 245: 100 Days Later…

Episode 244: Not Our 30th Episode of 2023

Episode 243: Boiled Froggy Water Under the Bridge

Episode 242: A Rule of Law (and Punctuation) Free Episode!

Episode 241: Let’s Barbie!

Episode 240: Something Got Released

Episode 239: We Have Many Tapestries!

Episode 238: The World Wonders

Episode 237: Are You Not Detained???

Episode 236: Damn the Torpedoes!

Episode 235: A Drone Struck

Episode 234: Not That Linda Hamilton

Episode 233: This Episode Was (Not) Written by ChatGPT

Episode 232: Top Gun 3: Deflategate!

Episode 231: If You Go to Washington Don’t Crime There

Episode 230, Not Section 230

Episode 229: We Are Not Not Going to Post Weekly in 2023 Maybe

Episode 228: Not That George Clinton!

Episode 227: Maybe This Episode Should Pay to Get Verified

Episode 226: What Is a Court Anyway?

Episode 225: Appetite for Obstruction

Episode 224: Mar-a-Lag-o-Palooza

Episode 223: The Search for Episode 222!

Episode 221: GWOT Shots, Part Deux

Episode 220: This Podcast Made the Kessel Run In Less than 12 Parsecs

Episode 219: And the Podcast Host-Designate Is …

Episode 218: From 28(j) to Enterprise-J

Episode 217: Talking With Matt Olsen About DOJ National Security Division

About The National Security Law Podcast

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Take it with you