Maga Is Crumbling

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   19 Jul 2026 · 1 hr 1 min

   Election Fraud

   This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou enter a brave new world in which Mary Lou said she wants to abolish ICE. Let that sink in. 🚨 ICE has now killed two people in two weeks — neither of whom were the targets of their operations. Lorenzo Salgado Araujo, a 52-year-old father with no criminal record, was shot in Houston. Then Johan Sebastián Durán Guerrero, a 25-year-old Colombian legally authorized to work in the U.S., was killed in Maine. The agent who killed Guer...

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   15 Jul 2026 · 30 min

   Abolish Ice

   In this midweek episode Mary Lou completely turns on ICE adopting the most progressive, left wing view she's ever had in the entirety of the show. If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to: [email protected]

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   12 Jul 2026 · 1 hr 6 min

   Lindsey Graham Dead

   This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou discuss... 🪦 Senator Lindsey Graham died Saturday at 71 following a sudden illness, ending 23 years in the Senate. The man who once called Trump a "race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot" became one of his biggest supporters. SC's Republican governor will appoint a replacement, and Trump says he already has someone in mind. We look back at Graham's legacy and what comes next. 💣 Week 20 of Trump's war with Iran — a war he sa...

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   8 Jul 2026 · 47 min

   Haley Goes Viral One More Time

   Chad and Haley discuss her recent viral IG post that got covered by Fox News and Libs of TikTok as well as some current headlines from this week. If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to: [email protected]

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   5 Jul 2026 · 1 hr 8 min

   America 250

   This week on The Necessary Conversation,Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou discuss the 250 year of America as the country seems to be crumbling. 🎪 Trump's Great American State Fair was a disaster from start to finish. Sparse crowds, cheap decorations, expensive food, nearly every musical act backed out, a stage collapsed during rehearsal, a 110° heat wave shut parts of it down, 51 people were treated for heat-related illness, hail disrupted Mount Rushmore, and thunderstorms forced a full evacuation of...

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   28 Jun 2026 · 1 hr 9 min

   Is Trump Close To Death?

   This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou discuss the biggest topics in politics. 💊 News broke that the FDA's "compassionate use" program — reserved for patients with serious or life-threatening conditions — was used to give a single 79-year-old man access to an unapproved experimental drug called Retatrutide. Trump was 79 when the request was made. The drug treats obesity, sleep apnea, and pulmonary hypertension — conditions that can be fatal in combination. The Whit...

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   24 Jun 2026 · 36 min

   Lib Sibs!

   Haley is back in Oklahoma helping Mary Lou take Bob to some doctors appointments, and she makes time to have a conversation with Chad about politics and the current state of the country. If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to: [email protected]

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   21 Jun 2026 · 1 hr 6 min

   Swamp Thing

   This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad (who just turned 50! 🎂), Haley, and Mary Lou celebrate Father's Day and discuss: 💣 Week 17 of Trump's war with Iran. Trump declared "The Deal is now complete" on Sunday. By Wednesday he and Iran's president signed a memorandum of understanding at Versailles. By Thursday, Israel broke the ceasefire with 12 air raids on Lebanon, killing 47 people. By Saturday, Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz again. The deal is effectively dead. We ask Mom and Dad: ...

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   17 Jun 2026 · 1 hr 1 min

   Founder of Leaving Maga - Rich Logis

   Today we are honored to have a very special guest. The founder of LeavingMaga.org Rich Logis. Will he be able to find some common ground with Mary Lou and help her inch closer to leaving Maga herself, or will he push her back to Trump? https://leavingmaga.org/ If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to: [email protected]

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    14 Jun 2026 · 59 min

    Trillionaire

    This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad, Haley, and Mary Lou are recording just hours before UFC Freedom 250 kicks off on the White House lawn. It's also Trump's 80th birthday, making him the oldest president in American history. 🎂 💰 Trump helped Elon Musk become the world's first trillionaire. SpaceX raised $75 billion in the biggest IPO in history — despite losing $4.9 billion last year. The Nasdaq and FTSE Russell changed their rules to fast-track SpaceX into their indexes, meaning y...