Grok Bot: make a 1 person company with agents

0:00GrokBot is here and there's a reason why it's going viral. I mean, anyone who's non-technical could spin up these agent teams and actually run a business end-to-end. Today's episode is for anyone who's interested in starting a business, running a business that is completely run by AI agents. And we show you not just big ideas that you can run, small ideas that you can run using GrokBot agent teams that do two, five, 10, $25,000 a month. I had my friend on Billy Howell come on the podcast and show you exactly how he runs his local newsletter business using GrokBot agents.

0:38So this episode is for anyone who's interested in starting a business that actually has agents running the entire thing. We're going to show you how to use GrokBot. We're going to show you how to spin up these agents. We're going to show you the best practices. We're going to show you the business ideas that work here. Enjoy the episode. I'll see you at the end. And I can't wait to see what you build. Thank God Billy Howell is here. And Billy, by the end of this episode, what are people going to learn?

1:13You're going to get an inside look at a business that I built and run with GrokBot. And you're going to come away with how you can set up your own business using GrokBot. Okay. And... A little birdie told me that you think GrokBot is the best place that anyone could run agent teams, right? So you're going to go through the best practices of GrokBot, how you're using it. You're a guy who literally tests every single tool. You test hundreds of tools to millions of people with the rundown.

1:42You're going to show us how GrokBot works. You're going to give us the best practices. You're going to tell us how we can use GrokBot to build businesses and run Asian teams. And by the end of the episode, can you commit that the person that is going to give their time to this episode will have a better understanding than anyone on the internet to run a business with GrokBot? Yeah, 100 percent, because most of the content I see around GrokBot is wrong.

2:10They totally don't understand why this tool is powerful. And I'm going to just transmute all that information to people's brains because I'm so excited about this and it's all I think about. All right, let's do it. OK, so GrokBot is this new agent team tool. And if you haven't seen it, it looks like this, Greg. Now, what we're looking at here is the team that runs my newsletter. My newsletter is called the Arlington Bagel. You can see it here on the hat.

2:37Pretty sweet. And it goes out to 6,000 Arlingtonians every Thursday. And I used to have an intern at... my cousin Marshall run this newsletter. He would research it. He would put it together. He would edit it. He would man the email desk. But cousin Marshall, I had to let him go because GrokBot is just so much better. Sorry, cousin Marshall. What actually happened is he went to work at a summer camp where they don't have internet. So GrokBot kind of saved me.

3:13And Greg, have you used GrokBot yet? I have. Okay, cool. How many agents do you have over here? I have one, two, three, four, five, six. Six. Okay. So the best thing I think about GrokBot is that you have a limited amount of agents. I did the math on this and I think it's about 76 or 88 possible unique agents. Because when you set them up, you've only got this many shape and color combinations. Yeah. And you can upload a custom avatar, but the point is it's all built around constraints.

3:52And that's why it's so useful for me. Because if you're like me, you probably use lots of agent tools. You probably have lots of business ideas and... What that turns into is an agent for every single task you think of. A chat GPT thread you'll never come back to. A clogged co-work project folder that sits there until you remember about it two weeks later. But what I like about GrokBot is you are forced to be mission-oriented. Because it's one thread, one bot.

4:29It's DMs. It's like talking to a teammate. And I actually think that design thing is one of its best selling points. Color and shape is all the human brain needs to differentiate something. So you can easily recognize all your different little teammates here versus like a gray thread in ChatGPT or Claude. I find this tool saves you so much on switching costs and organization. So right off the bat, we're saving time using this. Am I sounding crazy here, talking about the design of the agents in GrokBot?

5:07Well, you're not. I think a few weeks ago, the buzz was all around Jack Dorsey's buzz product, which I think was such an interesting product. But I posted a video about it, and a lot of people were just like, I don't know how to get this started. A lot of the technical people liked it, but what it feels like is... GrokBot is almost like a non-technical version of some of the features of Buzz. So if you're non-technical and you want an agent team and you want this almost like Slack-like experience, GrokBot is a good place to start.

5:47Now I think the big question that a lot of people have is, and this is what I want to get to by the end of this episode, is it's not cheap. It's $200, $300 a month. If... Yeah, how can we, yeah, you have it right there. How can we make GrokBot pay for itself? 5X, 10X, 20X, 50X. Where do we go? Okay, Greg, you're not going to like this. But you're going to have to pick one project to work on with GrokBot. Okay. So the problem that I've found is, as someone who uses lots of AI tools and builds lots of business ideas, is you don't have enough tokens to build four businesses at once.

6:35You're going to go into debt paying for tokens. And even worse than that, you're going to have context bleed that's going to make all of your agents less effective. So how GrokBot works is these guys actually run on the cloud, which is different than a lot of agents kind of team products that you use. Um, I don't know. Well, they spin up a computer. That's the difference here, right? Is they spin up virtual machines for your agents, virtual machine.

7:03They all live on one computer in the cloud. I can't, like a pretty sure on that. I actually hadn't thought. But why that's important is if I do my newsletter in here and then I also do like managing my Twitter and then also I'm sorting receipts in my Gmail, that's just going to add context to bloat. That's going to add files to trip them up. It's going to slow you down and it's going to be, ultimately burn tokens that go towards your limit. I've noticed that the CrockBot usage plan is pretty generous.

7:41I think in the first week I used it pretty heavily, but was able to get through week one with like 10% of my usage left. And that's me running one newsletter. So I'm Greg, imagine someone's starting two new businesses and managing their email. You're going to hit that limit, and you're going to be like, well, I just set $200 on fire, and you're going to be frustrated. So I think you need to pick. So can you walk us through, okay, your cousin quits, you need to create an agent team.

8:15Walk us through some of your agents, how people could think about best practices, setting them up, and... and just give us the sauce. Yeah, man. So when you start, they give you a bunch of preloaded agents that I can't recreate here, but I picked chief of staff from the list. And then because I already had an existing business. So if you have an existing business, give it access to your existing business docs and have it do day one, just like an audit research kind of plan.

8:48So I had it look at my take stock of this business. And then I need you to tell me the top three agents that you suggest we create first for this team to drive revenue, right? Our mission is to drive revenue. So what do we need? And so my chief of staff went, if we scroll back far enough, I can probably find it. Um, But that's probably not worth doing. It kind of took it. So it took a deep look at everything and it said, OK, we're going to need a research agent that researches the newsletter items.

9:24So it's a local newsletter and we give you three things to do every weekend and restaurant new restaurant news. Right. So it was like, we need a research agent. We and then chief of staff was like, I'm going to edit it. The first issue, we're not going to do an editorial bot yet. So we just started with research, sales, and then the newsletter goes through Beehive. So it suggested we have a Beehive expert agent that just anytime we have a question about, can we do this in Beehive?

9:57Like, how does this look in Beehive? stuff like that. It goes to that. So if your business is really dependent on a platform, say you want to set up a Shopify store, which is something we'll talk about. Definitely having a Shopify dedicated agent is a good idea just so your chief of staff doesn't have to be an expert in everything. So is what I'm hearing the first step is to set up a chief of staff? Set up a chief of staff. You need to figure out how to get your team mission aligned.

10:28And so the mission of your business should be to make money. And that's where you need to start. Have it set up three teammates to start. One of the pitfalls I see people make is... having their agents make too many decisions for them. So for example, I've been struggling with where does our content live when we're writing the newsletter? Does it live in a notion database? Does it live in local files? Do we have it in Google sheets? Agent hasn't been able to make a choice for three weeks.

11:05So finally I was just like, we're doing notion, no more tinkering. Okay. So for some reason, I'm, I think that's just a rabbit hole people get stuck in with AI is shopping around for the perfect solution. So at some point you're the person that has to make the decision, not the agent. And so then I suggest once you build the team, just run the damn ball. Run with that team for a week and see what you can get done. So if you're starting fresh, use that team to buy a domain, set up your website, help you set up a new Gmail, help you make your first sales list.

11:38So basically. Think about your chief of staff as as the CEO of the business. CEO is not going to run the be able to run the business if it doesn't know how it works. So I'll give you an example. Say you want to set up an outbound sales agent for your newsletter and sell ad space, sell ad space. Have your chief of staff do that exact task once. And then once it does it and you've reviewed it and it worked, be like, okay, now create an outbound bot that does that thing that you just did.

12:11Yeah, it makes sense. Basically, you have someone, you know, you call it a chief of staff. I think of it more as like a COO type person, like someone running operations. And you're basically saying like before... you go ahead and go crazy creating a bunch of new agents for every single job to be done that you can think of. The move is basically to perfect it with the chief of staff or the COO get it to a point where it works, you're happy with the output.

12:38Once the output is pretty good, then you're like, okay, I've earned the right to create another agent that just focuses on that. And then you give, I would imagine it's important to give that particular agent a goal as well. So with the outbound agent, maybe it's like you need to send X amount of emails or we want Y amount of visits and stuff like that. And then we haven't talked about it, but within GrokBot, there is the concept of essentially a cron job or something that you can have it do on a daily routine.

13:20I think it's called a routine on GrokBot where you can have it. automated, right? Yeah, that's exactly that. That's where I was going to next. So you don't have to do it exactly like this, but this is how I did it. I built the team. We kind of learned how to fly the plane. Uh, no tinkering was the week two of running it with grok with grok bot. Um, I didn't allow myself to create any new agents, not mess around with skills. I mean, maybe add some connections, but it was really about execution.

13:54And then week three is when we expanded the team. So we found those gaps. So, okay, we need someone manning the Gmail inbox because chief of staff can't be doing that every day. We need someone manning the Shopify merch shop. And then comes automation. I mean, you can do automation at the top two after you build the original team if you have a good idea of how your business should work. But basically what I did was I said to my chief of staff bot in here, I was like, hey, I'm going to do automation.

14:23Based on how we ran this this week and our agent team, what are some routines we could set up to make progress while I am not working on this? So I want you guys to move the ball forward while I'm sleeping automatically. And you need routines for that. So it put together a plan. Most of these agents have, depending on their role, a daily or weekly or biweekly end of day brief. So that's a really powerful tool with AI agents. Let me see if I can pull one up.

15:00So it's got this instruction here in its routine. This is the social one. He creates my graphics for Instagram and runs the content calendar. And so the instruction is to look at your current to-dos, What's new? Like basically, what did you create today? What blockers do you have? And then write a quick five line report and send it to the chief of staff. I think that you just five lines is all you need. More than that is you're just going to be burning tokens and context.

15:37And then my chief of staff, Bob, will, it'll be, it'll pull up what's shipped, what's stuck and what needs you. And so I told it this too. So what's been done, what's blocked and what do I need to do to unblock? That's awesome. And the reason why it makes sense to have multiple agents and not just giving the chief of staff to do some of these tasks is because you don't want to burn tokens and you don't want to. cloud up the context. Is that right?

16:09Yeah. Well, I mean, you need to think about this like it's a real business and like it's a real team. You wouldn't have the CEO or COO, let's say, Greg, of a company going in and making Instagram social posts every day. And like a real person, it takes up mental bandwidth for that agent. And that's the idea. And you can click in here and see it messaging other bots and like asking it for updates, which is pretty cool. That is cool. I mean, that's what's so cool about all of this.

16:38That's like a glimpse into the future of work, where you have all these agents messaging each other, getting work done, coordinating work together. And then you're just sitting there updating the North Star and the metrics and the goals and the context. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so mostly I interface through this chief of staff bot. But if I need to go deeper on something, I cut out the middleman like you would at a real company. I would go right to the social person and be like, hey, we need these graphics.

17:15I would give it feedback and be like, can you change the subtitles? Can you change the background? Just little edits like that. And then you can tell it like, hey, when you're done, update your. chief of staff when we're done here. And it'll go report back. So the chief of staff kind of routes tasks around. And theoretically, you know, you could in the future create a... So, you know, bagel social strategist that's trained on how like Akra Geisenberg does his Instagram posts and says that like pretend you're, you know, Akra Geisenberg.

17:54Here's some context. Imagine he was reviewing these posts. What would he say? And then feed that context back to social bagel social. Is that how you do it? Yeah, I've been lately having it do QA loops. Not so, I haven't done it in GrokBot yet, but in like Codex, this is a general agent pattern. So what Greg's talking about is how do I automate feedback for work product that agents create? And there's this hack basically where you say, okay, once you've done this once, create a panel of sub agents for GrockBot.

18:31It could be, you know, the chief of staff or other agents on the team and have them do an adversarial review of your work. Do that in three rounds. And that has made me so much progress on stuff that normally I would have to come back and painstakingly review and critique. Yeah. I get a much more polished. It goes from like a 50% done output to like 90% done. Yeah, I mean, it also allows the human to be less involved, which is helpful. Yeah, so to be less involved, but you really have to run.

19:10You have to be in the weeds with the team for a couple days, a couple weeks before you can run it autonomously. And you do that with the routines, like we said, and you do it with having agents review work that... You teach them how to review like you. So a useful thing could be, so say, Greg, like I gave all this feedback on these posts that it did. I could say, OK, take what we did in this thread and turn it into a skill that another agent can use when it's reviewing.

19:42So it reviews exactly like Billy. Right. That's exactly what you would do. And so if you want to see, do you want to see how the newsletter actually works? Do you want to talk about like the business case? Yeah, I think. Yeah, absolutely. I do because I think that there's thousands of potential newsletter businesses that could be built and run with GrokBot. Yeah, thousands for sure. So this is a local newsletter, but I've run newsletters in tech, in sports for different clients.

20:18And basically all you need to get started is a niche and where to get the best information to put in the newsletter. Right. So if you're really into... I don't know, board games and, you know, all the best board game subreddits and the best board game review sites and message boards, then you can make a newsletter where you aggregate and editorialize about new board games every week. Right. And so what you would do is you would get a Beehive account.

20:54Mine runs all through Beehive. I like to use Notion for laying out my newsletter. And you can connect GrokBot to it. It's really easy. By the way, GrokBot does connections way better than any other agents. I think it's called plugins, right, on GrokBot? It is called plugins, that's true. Okay, so this is a look at my newsletter in Notion. And so in GrokBot, So sometimes this is a pro tip. If you don't see a plugin that you want to use, or if, for example, you want to do Shopify.

21:38Shopify can it it can like the built in GrokBot integration or plugin just is skills for using Shopify. Yeah. You can't actually do anything in your store, so you'd have to install the Shopify CLI. And so to do that, I would just say, hey, set up this command line tool, and it can use that on its own computer here that you can view at any time. And that's because Shopify has a CLI, right? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. But it's pretty intelligent. If you want to connect something, it'll just create like a card in the chat and be like, OK, here's where you put your API key or click this to go sign in with OAuth.

22:20It's like really easy to use, very low friction. OK, so basically... What you would do for creating a newsletter with GrokBot is you would make a list of your sources. It can be a Google Sheet. It can be in Notion. And then you have your research bot. Go out and look. So I do mine twice a week. We send once a week on Thursdays and I tell it to go look. And then it fills in these cards in Notion with, okay, this is a new restaurant story. Here's when we should publish it.

22:54Here's a short summary. And then if it's an event, like here's one they're showing Shrek. It'll look like this. And I have it set up so then when I move it to process, there's a make.com automation that writes like the actual blurb for my newsletter how I want it, which is a little advanced, but you can have GrokBot write the actual news item for you like in the page in Notion. Yeah, like why even have a make.com automation? So this is like a big agent thing in general is once you've got a workflow that's working for you, you want to get rid of all the ambiguity.

23:35So I could have GrokBot write the blurbs every week and it does a really good job. But if the model changes or I don't know, just depending on how the bot's feeling, it might write them differently because that's just how it is. They're a black box. And so if you're running something business critical, you want to automate it as much as you can. And that also frees up tokens for you to do more building with GrokBot, right? So you want to build, you want to execute, and then automate.

24:07But you can have GrokBot automate stuff. So I can, and Greg, you're right, I can do a good job having it make an SOP. And I can say, okay, every time you write an article, a news story, I'm going to run this script that formats it exactly how I want. And GrokBot can run a script on its computer every time. So you could do it that way. And it's just, I don't know, you can do more volume on make.com with like an open AI key for little widget tasks like that.

24:34So it's a cost thing. It is, yeah. So like with the scale of a newsletter, I could waste GrokBot tokens writing news stories on... say like 200 potential news stories. Or I could have GrokBot filter out and just keep the best ones and then have my make.com chat TPT automation, write the little two sentence blurb. I don't want to waste. It's like a real employee. If you have a high performing employee, I don't want to waste it writing little two sentence summaries over time.

25:11like every week for 100 items that I may or may not use. But again, I got here because I stood up the process and did it manually with Crock-Bot first. I had it writing those things. Blurbs every week. And I can give you an example. I keep saying blurbs. But this is what these events that it finds basically turn into. And they're formatted the same every week. There's like emoji, event title, the time, and then a summary. That's the part that I use OpenAI for.

25:41But Grogbot can do it. Um, okay. And then sales. So Grokbot actually found me a sponsor this week. Uh, and it's because I connected it to my Gmail and how to just monitor for inbound. And there was something I missed like last week with a local, actually bagel shop owner reached out and he actually invited me and my wife and we went over there this morning and he gave us free bagels. And, um, We're talking about him sponsoring. And that's because GrokBot found it and was like, hey, you should follow up and you should pitch him on this exact ad slot.

26:17And that's because I set up this outbound or this inbox monitor and this sales agent. And the sales agent, what you have to do when you're setting up the business is, okay, I need you to set up and price everything that we sell. And so in this case, it looked at what ad slots we had and how they were priced. And then it updated them based on the market and the growth of the newsletter. And it made a sales sheet that we could show this local business.

26:49That's awesome. That seems like a no brainer. I'm just thinking about myself. It's like I should have Let's say I have any media property. You should have an email, I guess. For sponsorships, opportunities, reach out to sponsorships at whatever. And then basically what you're saying is you have GrokBot monitoring that inbox, pricing things out, sending messages. And then does that go to your chief of staff eventually that reviews it? Or how does the flow work?

27:26Yeah. It goes through the chief of staff. The sales bot will say, hey, chief of staff, we're looking at this potential sponsor. Does this email outbound message make sense? And right now, the chief of staff runs all of this by me. And so I'm kind of being like, OK, put this in Gmail and I'll edit it and send it. And then the idea is it'll just improve over time as I give feedback. I... For something like this, Greg, I believe with cold email, it's quality over quantity for especially a local newsletter.

28:00So that's the thing that's worth your time to make little tweaks to. And the beauty of GrokBot is it kills that writer's block for starting that outbound message. And so here's the trick. If you're new to doing this kind of outbound outreach for your business, even with AI, is, You don't want to boil the ocean. So you don't want to make a sales bot and say, you know, get me every car dealership in the state of New York and write a message to every sales agent there and set up three subdomains so that my email stays not in spam.

28:38Right. What you should do is set up an automation that goes on Monday that goes, OK, your job is to add five prospects to our list. And then on Monday, OK, pick the top three prospects and create an ad package custom to them and draft an outbound email and then send it to chief of staff. And you'll make more progress doing that. I promise you then doing 200 outbound emails at a time. What about ideas for the agents? One of my GrokBot agents is just an idea agent and his role is to come up with ideas for my other agents, like creative ideas.

29:24Because I don't want to be the person always prompting my agents to come up with ideas. How do you think about that? For business ideas? Specific ideas for agents. So for example, for the social, for example, Bagel Social. I think what makes humans amazing is where at least creative humans are going to be coming up with new ideas, always trying to push it forward. Culture changes, therefore... You move social content based on where culture is going.

30:06And I find that agents, one of the reasons why AI slop is a thing, is if it's under the same loop, it just kind of follows the same loop and you end up getting that creative and you get product that kind of looks the same. So my question for you is, do you have any ideas around using GrokBot to come up with creative ideas? My example is I actually went and asked it to create an idea generator. And it works with my other agents. Yeah. So how do we keep it?

30:37How do we keep the GrokBot agents out of the loop of, not not improving right how do i introduce new ideas um i don't greg really like i why i like rockbot and how i use it is i only add an agent if we really like need it i just i'm so anti idea creep and agent creep because that's how you burn tokens that's how you spin your wheels that's how you don't make process progress um You can do what I did at the beginning, that chief of staff audit. You can run it regularly and say, hey, look at how we worked this week.

31:13What agents can we add? What can we remove? What should we turn into a routine or a skill? You can do that kind of automated improvement. But no, I don't I don't have a good solution for that. Well, you're you're basically saying, like, let the agents cook. It sounds like what you're saying is, and you've been consistent, don't create a lot of agents. Create a small amount of agents that focus on high quality, high value work. Make sure that it meets your bar.

31:51Have a chief of staff manage these agents. But only create an agent if it is mission critical. Correct. Yeah. And that's exactly how you should talk to your chief of staff who manages your team. What else haven't we covered around GrokBot that people need to know about? Well, we talked about the computer a little bit, but it can access files on your computer. So... I'm not sure how you, I think it asks permission like one time and then it's allowed to.

32:28You can get it on your phone and then it can run either on this computer or if the app is open and your laptop's on, it can do stuff on your computer. I would say my main takeaway from that is like, don't go against the grain. So GrokBot works well on its computer and it can read stuff on yours, but I find myself falling into this trap of okay, you know, generate a report and then put it on my desktop and then put it in Notion. And I don't know if other people are like this, but you end up just working on the system more than the actual output.

33:05So I'm kind of like, I tell my agents like, okay, work, create stuff on your computer. And then when it's done, send it to me in chat and put it in Notion. not like when it's done, like after I reviewed it. That way you don't have to be like, Hey, that thing we were working on yesterday, like where is it? Is it, is it on your computer? Is it on my computer? Is it in the cloud? Right. You're, you're just creating problems for yourself. I think a lot of people are going to watch, listen to this.

33:40The whole agent team idea is going to click in their heads. I think that there's tons of different business ideas that you can build on top of this. One of them is local newsletters. What else could people be building? Any type of newsletter doesn't need to be local. Probably would be easier to get the ball rolling on one that's not local. That's a whole different can of worms. Yeah. Shopify, I've got a separate GrokBot account that I pay the $200 for because I'm so crazy about keeping the context separate.

34:18And it's just Shopify. And so I'm training it to use the Shopify developer tools and to... Source products. I have a sourcing agent, a developer agent, and like an email agent right now. And I'm still setting those up, but Grockbot does an outstanding job of researching products, sourcing products. And so I'll just I what I would do is say, I have an idea for this product. I. I have, I really like this company and its product. I want to do something that's in the same category, similar price point.

34:57And it knew to go look at import Yeti, which like can just look at people's Shopify's and tell you like exactly what they're sourcing and like what their margins are. It did that on its own. I was kind of blown away. And it made these reports on each product idea and was like, here's my recommendation. Always ask for recommendations, by the way. Here, like my bulletproof system for testing business ideas with CrockBot is I want to do this, this or this.

35:28So I've got three ideas. Maybe they're similar. Maybe they're different. Go research each of them. figure out how I can price it, what the cost is going to be, and then give me your top three recommendations on how to do the damn thing. And it just works. Your task should not be open-ended when you're doing research, or you're just going to end up doing research for two weeks. That's fair. Okay, so you think Shopify, that there's still opportunity in finding products, finding audiences for those products, and then having agent teams manage that whole process.

36:07That's interesting, because on this podcast, we talk a lot about digital products, SaaS, vertical AI, not so much on the Shopify side. So it's just interesting. Yeah, I'm not like an e-com expert. This is an experiment I'm working on, but I think it's nice to work on something physical because the cost of creating digital things is going to zero. There's no friction there. Actually making something physical, a brand that you can just build over time, I think that's a smart thing to do.

36:45And over here, I see you have site builder stack. What do you mean by that? Yeah, so I just have an agent on my other account that has this simple stack of Cloudflare, the CLI tools. Porkbun is where I buy domains, so it can log into that on its computer and buy a domain. And then I use this thing called Astro. It's a framework for creating static sites, and it's connected to my GitHub. And so basically, like I needed I needed a link for people to book meetings with me and I didn't want to pay for Calendly.

37:22So I said I got it set up on this stack and I said, go embed my three different Google calendars on this. And I was literally sitting on the phone on the beach and it would send me, okay, here's a mock-up of this. And I would tell it, okay, make another branch and do a mock-up in this style. And it will come back. And through Cloudflare, it would have separate developer links that I could review the different styles in. And then when I said, okay, I like that one, it connected it to the domain that I owned.

37:53And it went live all from the beach. And I set that up in... two or three hours that, that, that stack. Um, and I'll probably use it for a long time, just for simple, I need something to exist on the internet. It doesn't need to be perfect or pretty. So is, you know, is that just like internal tools, building internal tools, or is there an opportunity to build some of these tools and sell it to other businesses? Yeah. So what I would use this for is landing pages.

38:25So yeah, it's kind of an internal tool. If I want to sell, say a local business on being a sponsor, I could just say, hey, you know, make a landing page that speaks directly to this customer or directories. So Astro specifically is really good at directories. So if you if you're interested in the SEO game, just drew through that. This is the stack for testing and iterating. And I would just have a research agent that adds to the directory. So if you want to make a directory of pickleball equipment, I would set up a coding agent that uses this stack and a research agent.

39:04And every day the research agent investigates a new brand and writes a great article. page on that brand as Markdown, and then it hands it to the engineer who posts it. Then you would, you know, set up an agent that collects referral links and does outbound to get, to get deals once you have the traffic. And you could rinse and repeat that if you're interested in doing kind of the SEO directory game. Yeah. So yeah. I've done a few episodes on directories in the past.

39:35I'll include the latest one with my friend Frey, who does a good job of explaining why directories matter, how it's a good 10K, 25K, 100K a month business. What is a directory? It's basically just... curated data on a website. So you're picking a topic and you're like, here's the best XYZ in this topic. And in an AI world, we actually need directories more than ever because There's just too much information, so when it's curated, it's helpful. Also, the whole SEO game is changing right now.

40:18People are going to chat GPT, and they're going to Google AI overviews. to actually consume content. And platforms like that need directories. So I think using GrokBot as the basis for your directory is absolutely brilliant. And the beautiful thing about a directory is Once you build a strong directory, it's a foundation, and you're getting thousands of visits a month, let's say. And then you can say, you know what? I want to build a Shopify store.

40:52Actually, you know what? I want to build a newsletter. Oh, you know what? I actually want to build a SaaS. Or you know what? I want to build a mobile app. So it's actually a really good place for people to start. Yeah, and the cool thing about a directory is it ties in with this. Not a local newsletter, but... niche newsletter. So say we're doing that board game idea. You could have it build out like board games that are good for parties could be your niche directory.

41:16And you could have a newsletter that talks about that too. You could have this on a sub domain or a different domain than your newsletter. And they tie into each other. So you can monetize by linking people to the directory and have a referral link there. You could do Those warm leads from those referral links could become sponsors in your actual newsletter. I think the lowest barrier to entry with GrockBot to start a business is probably newsletter and then directory.

41:49I think that stack goes together really nice. Beautiful. All right. I think we covered what we wanted to cover. Is there anything else you want to leave people with? Yeah, I would... Do this, try this for a month, set up GrokBot for one project and run it like a real team, like we went over. And Let us like, let me know, like tweet at me. Like, did you make progress doing this? I'd like, this is your sign to pick something that you've been thinking about and pursue it aggressively versus trying a new tool and researching ideas for four weeks.

42:29So do this, build a Spotify or newsletter or a directory with GrokBot. And I think you'll see what I mean. This, I haven't been excited about a tool like this before. Maybe like all year. Maybe this is my favorite this year. Yeah, so tweet at me. What's so interesting about this tool is we've seen glimpse of this and other tools, but nothing has been as simple and has just like worked as well as GrokBot. So it's really fun. Also, like the value that you can actually create is massive.

43:07And I'm glad that during this episode we covered It wasn't just about the big ideas. These are little ideas that you can start today that anyone can do. And who knows where that goes? Maybe that turns into a big idea. I'm sure when Rowan was starting the rundown, he didn't think it was going to get to millions of... subscribers on his newsletter worth millions of dollars. So you start small, you automate what you can, you keep a few agents. I love your framework.

43:38Build team week one, execute no tinkering week two, week three hire fire, week four automate. And and do it with one business and just keep iterating and creating value for customers. I love it. Billy, thank you for coming on. I'll include links for where to follow Billy in the show notes in the description. And I want to hear, and Billy wants to hear, what, you know, What do you think of GrokBot? So in the comments section, please let us know. I read every single comment and I reply to most.

44:12So would love to see you there. And thanks again, Billy. You're a legend. Thanks, Greg. It's been a blast.