Ruby Tuesday Matthews Tell All

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0:29Please always chat with your qualified healthcare team before making any decisions about your health. Hi, it's Bec Judd. And Jess Robertson. Welcome to Maynish. OMG. I'm so excited for this interview. Wow. I mean, we're always excited about this one, this girl. We followed this along. I think the whole country's followed this one along. It's Ruby, Tuesday, Matthews. We've wanted to get her in for so long. And we've wanted to get her in before she went to bloody career and got a facelift.

1:12Right? And then she went and did that. And now it's like... You are definitely coming in. Hi, Ruby. Welcome to Vaynish. I think we booked you in before Korea. No, most definitely. I think we all just wanted a good excuse to catch up, really, and just call it a day. Yeah, exactly. I think that's what it is. It is. I've been trying to catch up with you for so long, so... Thank you for coming on and coming all the way down here. I'm so excited, guys.

1:35So for those who don't know Ruby, you've been living under a rock, but Ruby Tuesday Matthews is a mum of three, entrepreneur, content creator. We followed so many chapters of her life over many years. But recently, Ruby packed her bags and headed to Korea for facial surgery. And we have so many questions. So many questions. I feel like, Ruby, you did cover a lot of it on your stories in real time as it was happening, unfolding, and it was so cool to be on that journey with you because you did not hold back.

2:05Like, you shared it all, warts and all. Yeah, I think I didn't really think I was going to share that much, but I also kind of always overshare. So I'm like, it's your purse. My purse for me. But yeah, no, I definitely shared it in real time and it was something that I guess, like I've had cosmetic procedures before. I've had, you know, a breast lift and then I went and had after my last child a breast augmentation and implants. And then, so I've gone and I felt kind of the waves of what happens when you do have cosmetic surgery, you know.

2:40Yeah. The preparation, choosing your surgeon, all those little things. But this was completely different going to a different country. I was like... Man, you've got some balls. I didn't realise how big my balls were until I was above a coffee bean restaurant going, what the fuck? am I actually doing this? So how long had you planned doing surgery in Korea for or was it one of those ADHD moments that Jess gets where she's like, I'm just going to do this, I'm going to make this really big life decision just today just because I feel like doing it and I've got a big dopamine hit.

3:13It was a bit like that. I knew that I'd kind of like narrowed it down to three surgeons that I really liked and I was like, I don't know when I'm going to get this done kind of thing. And, you know, when you start like looking, everything starts popping up on your algorithm. Mm-hmm. And I kept like, it kept popping up, popping up, popping up. And I was like, and then finally I was like, no, that's it. I'm going to book it within like, I think it was within 12 days.

3:36And then I went, I'm going to go to Korea. Like, that's where I'm going. And it's going to be the surgeon in Korea. Because it was like either LA or Korea. And I'm like, I can't fly that long. Yeah. You know, like. But also LA is like 10 times more expensive. Yeah. And then also the time difference is horrendous. Well, at least with Korea, it's only a two hour time difference. An hour. It's like an hour or something. Yeah. Like, we're at the same time.

3:57It's nothing. Did you fly direct there? No. So I. You're from Byron. I had to go Brisbane. Brisbane to Hong Kong. Hong Kong to. Oh, schlep. And I went with my sister, which was like. amazing. Great support person. No, she was. I was like, she won't watch this. When I get my face lifted, I'm going to bring my daughter within me. So that's going to be amazing. She's going to be the best support person ever. When you say you share everything online, do you think that helps you deal with what you're going through better by having online support?

4:29I find it's not so much online support. I feel like I've shared so much of my life online, I'm sure, as you both do, you know, and when you are going through something, whether it's good, bad, or whatever it is, sometimes when you say anything out loud, whether it's online or actually in real life, it always feels better to actually let that out and be like, oh, I did this or I did this or, you know, or I'm going through this or whatever. It's always, you know.

4:52It's almost like therapy. Yeah, and it's like a bit hard to hide your face for this long and, like, I still come on. properly. Don't make her laugh. I'm like, I laugh. Just this one side still. But yeah, so it kind of, it helps me be able to, number one, continue to share online in real time and day to day and not try to hide under a rock for, you know, definitely easily three and a half to four weeks because that's... Everyone's like, oh, two weeks.

5:17I'm like, two weeks, bullshit. What did you have done? I had an endoscopic forehead lift and I had what I guess you'd call a ponytail lift with endotine tape or endotine ribbon. which is similar to you had, what was it called, the little endotine BEC? Devices. They're like little squares. Yeah. So where are they? So endotine tape is kind of the same, but they use it and they run it along down the inside of like wherever they want it, here or here or here or like wherever.

5:51And then it grows everything. So where's your endotine tape exactly? I feel like it's... Well, I can't feel it, but I feel like it's here. You are pointing to like your... Temple. Temple to... Down to the side of my lip. So they put the tape in there. Yeah. And then read, oh, that is different. And so it runs back up. Yeah. And then they attach it through the incision in your hairline. Yeah, but they also go down and they do it through, like, I don't think I had tape here, but he said, because I was like, what did I actually have done?

6:21Asking for a friend who has ADHD and just went to go to procedure overseas. Yes, yes. I was like, what did I actually have done? No, I was actually booked in for a heap more. Like, I was booked in for a two-point lift, which is where they go also, I think, just where the ear is, like, as well. And I was going to get the under chin one. And then he's like, you don't need to do under your chin. Is that the witch chin? Yeah. Yeah, they call it witch chin.

6:46I was like, that's so rude. What's a witch chin? Witch chin is where... They go through one point. Yeah. Just one little thing and then they tighten all the ligaments and your neck all at once through one little point. Through one point. Yeah. So you know how like in Australia we have the old school goes around the ear or behind the hairline? They just do a little incision up here. Oh, I've been deep diving, guys. So if you do that before... I find that hard to believe how that would hold for more than, like, 12 months, though, with one incision point.

7:12Do they put tape there? No, no, no. You do the incision behind the ear as well. They also do a tiny... Like, it's about the size of a nail, and it's, like, just behind your ear, and they pull it there too. Mm-hmm. So you didn't do that. I went in and he was like, you don't need to get that done. Because my main concern was like my eyelids were folding over. I always wear a winged eye. And I was like, guys, this is like happening to me all the time.

7:34Yeah. And he's like, I would not get your upper bleft yet. Because I feel like an upper bleft... is a more socially acceptable thing in Australia, people go, I got an upper bleph. And everyone's like, of course, it's fine. Like there's not as much stigma to it compared to a ponytail or whatever else. An endoscopic fall. Yes. And maybe because blephs can be done by... Lots of different doctors. Yes, optometrists. So it hasn't gone there. There is less of a social stigma around a blepharoplasty, which is eyelid surgery, I think maybe because, yeah, so many different doctors can do it maybe.

8:10So it's not – Yeah. So I ended up going in and... You didn't do a bluff? No, I didn't. I was like, are you sure? Are you sure? And he's like, I am sure. And I was like, I don't believe you. Anyway, I'm so glad I didn't because I'd be like, oh, like after the recovery. But so yeah, went and got an endoscopic forehead lift and a one point, I guess it's ponytail lift. They usually do it at two points, but he only did it at one point. So what does that mean?

8:35One point versus two points. It just depends, I guess, well, I wish. Does it mean one fixation point? Yeah, like one fixation point. And where's the second fixation point in a two-point? So, no, it's through the same area. They just tighten. Pull it more. Just tighten. Yeah, they pull it more into different areas. Okay. internally because you end up getting stitches like all internally. I had them all through here. Okay. All through your jaw. Yeah.

8:59So to keep the tape in place. No, to keep like ligaments, he said. Like we cut here, we tighten like your ligaments naturally and then we pull the stuff up. That is actually insane that he's managed to get as far down as your jaw with an incision in your hairline without going all around your ear or under your chin. There's only four tiny incisions and like they're, literally tiny, the ones here are slightly bigger, but it took four hours. Like, that's a long time.

9:29That's a long time. Like, I was like, are you sure? Like, am I going to die on the table above coffee? That's the longest sleep you've had in weeks. I was trying. I was like, when I went in, I was like, are you sure about this? I was talking to them and no one could speak English. I was like, to the Ukrainian girl, are you sure about this? And I'm like, have you had a surgery? And she's like, no. She hadn't had a surgery quite clearly. And I'm like, have you done anything like this?

9:54And she's like, I think so, once. I was like. Bullshit. I was like, are you... How much commission did you get here? Who's the Ukrainian girl and where does she come into the story? Oh, she was like the translator I hired. I was like, I fucking hate you. I love that it's a Ukrainian girl that can speak Korean. I was like... So as you're getting wheeled in, you're having like the full like... No, I was walking in. I was walking in and I was like panicking at this.

10:20I was like, oh, fuck, I've done something. I'm doing something stupid again, aren't I? I was like... ADHD groupies here. Ning, ning, ning, ning, ning, ning. I was like, I've done a lot of, like, I say a lot of things without thinking. I do a lot of shit without thinking, you know, and I'm like, am I doing this? Like, am I... I haven't even told my mum. Like, don't think Shannon knows. Like, Shannon was like, what the fuck did you get done singing news article?

10:44I was like, I told you, babe. And he's like, no, you didn't. I just went, I was just threading. I was just going for threading. I was literally laughing. I was talking to a girlfriend the other day. She said that she was getting her boobs done to her husband. And then she goes and gets her boobs done. And then he goes and picks up and she had her whole face done. Hey, actually, to this point, to this point. I was like, this is amazing. Okay. We want to know, what have you lied to your partner about having done and were you caught out?

11:12And if you have done anything. Oh, my God. Like Ruby going to Korea and then coming back with a facelift and her partner finding out about it in the newspaper or our other friend who was going in for boobs and came out with a nose job and a full brown lift. and taped up and got in trouble. Is there anything you've done similar? Please slide into our DMs and let us know. Okay, back to you, Ruby. This is gold. There was like a multiple questionable, like because it was a beautiful clinic and I was like, okay, I've done all my research.

11:42Like I really, you know, you go through chat to me too and you're like, what questions do you ask to make sure I'm not going to die here? And so, like, I've asked every question. I'm going, okay, I feel like, you know, and I've seen multiple other people go there. I know two people have gone there. So let's take it back a step. We want to know why you decided to do it in the first place. Oh, yeah. So in the first place, I guess I... You see these huge transformations of these women getting these crazy deep plain facelifts at 40.

12:11And for me, I was like, that's not something I really... Not ready for. Well, I'm not 40. I'm getting there. But like also I wasn't really loving the results, to tell you the truth. They were so drastic. And I feel like sometimes if you, and this is just my own personal opinion, if you do a smaller procedure, you know, or you do things, to prevent in the long term, you don't end up having and you can actually kind of age. That's like I'm not trying to stop aging.

12:43I'm not trying to completely freeze myself like this forever because that's not going to happen. We all need to kind of... Why not? I'm not going to look like this when I'm 100. I'll have it known. When I'm 100, I'm going to look exactly like this. I don't think I'm going to be here when I'm 100. I've done way too many questions. But no, I know that there isn't, like I still need to age, you know, to some degree. Like it's what happens. And I just felt like it was a more gentle approach to aging and to buy a bit more time without having to go and have the facelift when you're 40.

13:18Yeah. And to have a smaller procedure now without cutting any of my skin. Yep. Apart from a few things in my head. I did that with my eyes and fat transfer and so forth earlier just to do little bits so I'm not waiting for everything to sag and be completely noticeable and then to have to have a fully drastic everything done at once. I just do little things along the way, kind of in – The Ruby Tuesday approach. It's just the approach of like subtle gradual things where you're like, did they have something done?

13:49And I think that's the procedure, the ones that you still look like yourself and you look refreshed and you feel great. Without waiting until you're 60 and needing your face pulled off the floor. Yeah, and I feel like I guess a lot of those results that I was seeing, I was going like, I don't really want that look. Yeah. You know, because it is a... It's 100% like what she had done. Yeah. Instead of, God, she's looking really fresh. Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, yeah, the anti-wrinkle just kicked in.

14:13You know, when it kicks in, it's like... Yeah. So, Ruby, your main concerns going in, am I right, was your eyelids and brow? It was like overall, like, kind of like this sagging of my eye and I was getting anti-wrinkle if I was lucky every... five weeks to six weeks. Like it's so... Oh, you metabolized it. So quickly between having saunas and then, you know, just... I mean, your fast metabolism. Yeah, it would literally break down and I'd be like, what the hell, like I'm spending, you know, you end up spending...

14:43So much money. So much, but also time. Like I have to drive to the Gold Coast from Byron. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a two-hour trip because, you know, when you find your lady. Yeah, yeah. You can't go. Yeah. And so I'm like, oh, my God, what the hell? And I was just like, I need to find a different solution That's how I kind of came to the decision of this would be a really good procedure for me. But when you say you also did the lifting, so we know about the eyelids, and were you not happy with it?

15:11Oh, no, I was here. What was happening around your jaw and your nose? I had a huge, like, what's it called? Nasal labial. Labial? Flaps. Fanny flat face? I had a funny flat face. The nasolabial fold, which is the line from the corner of your nostrils to the edge of corners of your mouth. Yeah, and I was like, I'm not going to, you know, I wasn't getting filler and that's kind of where I was at. You know, I wasn't going to go fill my face because I feel like as soon as you start filling your face and trying to create, you know, whether you have bags under your eyes and you start feeling it, everyone starts to look very like… They get puffy face.

15:44They get like that. You get puffed face. Yeah, puffed face. And it's like you get bloating and it's a lot of water retention. So your procedure lifted up all of your mid face as well. Yeah, all the muscles in my face were going down naturally, you know, from screaming and crying and laughing. So this is why you kind of laugh because it's still super tight. So like it feels like I have a really tight ponytail all the time. Which I guess is why it gets the name.

16:11Ponytail lip. So how long ago was this? I don't know. I think it's like three weeks now. It's like three weeks now. Over three weeks. We are looking fresh. Do you think it was like two weeks, like, you just don't look normal? You're asking for a friendie for yourself. Yeah, yeah. Because I felt like when we looked at you on day nine, I felt like you weren't as swollen as you felt. Yeah, you looked pretty good. You just had the big bruise, but you looked pretty good.

16:37No, no, no. Like, every morning I would wake up and my face and eyes would be like... And then I'd be like slowly as the day and everything kind of like started moving and your lymphatic drainage started, you know, doing its thing. I would go down and then I'd like wake back up and I'd be like... So, like, yeah, everyone who says it's... you know, two weeks and you're dinner ready, I'm like, that is a bullshit. Yeah. Like, it's like three weeks and you start to resemble who you were again.

17:08Yeah, yeah. I feel like everyone says, you look like really young or like people who don't know, like my local bartender. Yeah. He's like, whoa, what happened to you? Yeah, you're looking. I was like, I went and got a facelift. He's like, oh. Savage. I don't know if it is like such a hectic thing as a facelift, but it is technically a facelift. Did you have to go in to get stitches taken out or did they just dissolve? No, I had to get stitches taken out.

17:34Yeah. Before you came home? Yeah, yeah. I had to get stitches taken out. You're meant to stay for at least like 14 days after it. procedure and I highly recommend to anyone that they should listen to the doctors but I can't like I get very like I need to go I need to go now I like I was starting to like not wig out but my sister was wigging me out a little bit dude mum's so pissed off you didn't tell her I was like fucking Shannon's just found out on the stage.

18:06I'm so male. And I am dealing with myself looking like a stingray. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just can't do that. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I left a lot earlier. So I was pushing it. I was like maybe six days post-op and I was like, take my stitches out. I'm getting on the next flight. Yeah. And they're like, please don't. I was like, I have a family emergency. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm the emergency. I need to get out of here because I'm losing my mind. Do you know what?

18:29Becky's exactly the same. She cannot stick to a flight. No. She has to always book Flexi because she's like, we'll be in New York and then she'll wake up one morning and she goes, I'm going home in three hours. And I'm like in New York. But I'm like, hang on. We're leaving in like 24 hours. Why don't we just go in 24 hours on our normal flight? She's like, no, I'm going now. She'll just book something and off she goes. And then I'm in the room spiraling, hungover, going, where did Beth just go?

18:54I was still going. No, actually, the actual story is Jess and I had the best night of our lives. Best night of our lives. We have video evidence. We'll show you offline so we don't get cancelled. It was the best night ever. Let's just say it was Bec naked in a suitcase talking to me. with her socks on and nipple guards on her. She's just chatting. And I'm like going, what? And we put on a show for a taxi driver. And then we gave him our phone and made him film us.

19:27And we paid him all this money to pull over and film us. We put on a show and you're paying her for the only fans. And as we get home, all of our phones light up. Snow emergency. All public buildings, all schools closed tomorrow in New York. Incoming snowstorm. Get out now if you've got an emergency flight. And I had a, sorry, if you've got a flight. I had a message from, I think I was flying Qantas, but they were like, if you don't get out now, you're going to have to reschedule your flight.

19:54So that was the background. It wasn't just leaving. But no, I am not. But it was like two weeks. They said it was like, I think it was like a 10-day like lock-in. They said it was going to be the biggest blizzard ever. And it came and it was like five seconds. I'm sitting, I'm like at the Baccarat, which is so expensive, like living my dream life. I was like, well, I'm called Val, my husband. I'm like, so there's a blizzard. I might have to come.

20:18We're getting snowed in. I think I might have to stay at the Baccarat for like another 10 days. And he's like... Well, how much is that? I'm like... Two grand US a night. It's like it's on Michelle Green's credit card. So I don't know. It's on the jagged credit card. I was like pissing myself laughing. For me, in that moment, I'm like, get out, get out, get out, get out. So I always flee. Whenever there's like a curveball, instead of like, let's just see what happens.

20:41I'm like, nah, I'm getting home. I do it all the time. I do it too. I just enjoy the journey. I'm like, let's... But I do that and then I'll be at the airport. I've literally actually been on a plane and then I'll be like, oh, oh, oh, oh, changed my mind. No joke, plane doors closing. I'm like, I've got to go, I've got to go. And I stay back in the place. I got off a virgin flight. You're kidding. You're one of those people who holds up the whole flight.

21:01No, no, I was sitting down. Don't tell me you checked in luggage and they had to even bring up. Don't even bring that up. Oh, my God. I often think when I'm sitting on a flight and they're like, oh, sorry, we've had a notion of someone, we need to unload their suitcase now. And I'm always sitting there going, who's... fuck. No, they didn't unload it. They checked in their shit. I wouldn't check it in. I had carry on. I was like, I was in a, it's like when I first started seeing Dodsy, I was in a romance and I was like, oh, I don't have to be home right now but I really felt like I should have been home and I was like getting like, yeah, yeah, but I'm in love so I'm going to stay.

21:30And I was like, I'm like, I'm going to stay. I'm like, goodbye. But you know what? And you get off the aeroplane. Oh, my God. Do you know what? How good's the story of our lives, though? I'm like, there's always fun. How fun's having fun. So you're telling me that all the people, all these planes you're on that get held, are they all ADHD people? Yes, I've done it. I did it in Sydney. I had to get off the plane. Do you know what my other theory is?

21:54Get off. People who have like really bad IBS and they're like having, they're like really sick and they're vomiting or diarrhea in the toilet or something. It's that. It is that. Or like their celiac and they accidentally got glutened in the lounge. In the lounge, yes. And then they've got to make the flight. Yes. You know? I think it's illness and ADHD. Mine is checking my passport. No, the illness, people stay and then they're like, ugh. And you're like, ugh.

22:19And they have a medical emergency on the fly. On the fly. And you've got to turn around and end up in Adelaide. Yes. And you're meant to be going Melbourne to Sydney. Yes. So afterwards, because I've had this experience, I wanted to know if you had it as well. When you're in that post-surgery kind of, it's almost like baby blues. Did you get that where you have regrets, you feel depressed, you question your life choices? Because apparently it's a thing after a general anaesthetic and that's been my experience when I've had a general.

22:56I always have a couple of days of depression afterwards and they, yeah, they say it's the general anaesthetic post-surgery blues. Yeah, well, I definitely got it when I had my last, like, boob job. Because I have friends, I know the surgeon, and I have his number in his phone and his wife's number in my phone. I love that. And they're like, you're only for your three days post-off. And I was like, you've botched me. I was like, you've botched, like you've fully botched me, dude.

23:20Because I was like, these aren't 20 cent nipples. I was like, one is looking this way and one is looking this way. And I was like, duh. I was like, what the hell? And he's like, no, no, no, no. Just like, wait. Let it calm down. Like three days, like let it calm down, you know? And I was like, no, dude. Calling him up. I was like, no. You have botched me. And he's like, I haven't bought. I was like, I'm blocking. I, like, blocked his number. Didn't go to any more post-ops.

23:46Three years later, I go, oh, I think I want to go up a size. I was like, oh, hello, blah, blah. Could I please book a consultation again? And he's like, you are, like, banned from my clinics. We tried to call you, like, for a year straight to see if you're okay. I was like, they're great. But yeah, I was really, that was really hard after that surgery. This time, I think because I had actually had also other surgeries as well for personal reasons, I think it was like a build up.

24:15But I really, I feel like this facial surgery is so different to anything else. And maybe you know, when it's like a toothache. or it's in your face or it's in your ear, it's a feeling in your head that you can't actually detach. Like it's not like, oh, I've hurt my leg. Ow. It's like this is in my face. It's in my face. My head's pulsating. Yeah, it's all encompassing. I have to say that my worst pain I've ever had has been a toothache. Like I'd rather give birth than a toothache.

24:42That's what it feels like. Because in Korea, you weren't allowed to have pain medication. No, well, they give it to you when you're in... Surgery. Or you're in the hospital. But they're really, really strict. They sent me home with the equivalent... Like a paracetamol. I was like... I was like, these tablets aren't working. The little lollypockets in all the sachets you see each day. I'm like, these things aren't working. And I Googled it. I was like, none of this is working.

25:10What the hell is happening? I'm in major pain, dude. And he's like, oh, come in for a needle. I was like, what? And he came in. I went in for the needle the second day. That's the prescription stuff. And I was like, I hate needles. I was like, what? Oh, also in a lot of pain to get a needle. So in Korea, like you're walking around and you see people who are so socially widely accepted with their whole faces bandaged up. Like you're just walking down the street and there's people everywhere.

25:37You're at Louboutin Cafe and everyone's like wrapped up. Wrapped up. Tea. There's only paracetamol for pain relief unless you go back into the clinic. Or you're in hospital. Doing a hospital stay. And I was like, post-surgical stuff, it hurts. It hurts so much. I could not believe that. I was like… That's crazy. Maybe they're really tough, these Koreans. They just… No, they have laws. They've got huge laws. I think it's like… Well, you're not allowed to take ADHD medication.

26:03You're not allowed to do all this. You know what I mean? Like, they're super strict. So, obviously, there's those rules in place for their reasons, and that's fine. But you have to stick by that because no one's going to prescribe you anything. Yeah, that's good to know if anyone's considering going there. No, 100%. You've got to have a high pain threshold. And I feel like I do have a pretty high pain threshold. Like every time I have a cesarean, I'm up walking as soon as I get my feeling back.

26:28I'm like, get me up. Yeah, yeah. Get the catheter out as well. Yeah, get the catheter out now. And they're like, it's been 12 hours. I'm like, get the catheter out. I'm pulling out myself. I want a shower now. I will walk around like this if you make me. Do you want any pain medication? I'm like, no. No, please. I do not want any because I want to be able to like... I felt like when I had my first cesarean, they gave me pain medication, but I just was so knocked out, like in the head.

26:50I just didn't know what was... Yeah, you're like, where's the baby? Did I have this baby? Yeah. And then by the second and third, I was like, I don't want any pain medication. I was like... Oh, well, you should go to Korea. I know. For all your children. I don't know what I'm going to get done, but anyway. So, yeah, so pain, so, yeah, so the pain was. In my face. In your face and horrible, but then you weren't allowed to sleep. I know, you have to sleep upright, which is pretty standard.

27:12I can't do that. I know, but I slept upright, like, up until just recently. I reckon it's only been the last five or four nights that I've been sleeping, like, On your side? Like down. No, down. Oh, down. Down. So you've got to sit up. Well, the more you sit up, because everything like sets in the same place. Like, so the longer you sit up, the more swelling will go down. And my swelling was so bad. Like, every morning, like I said. So, yeah, I was trying to do everything I could.

27:38How many days did it take so you could walk around and feel like a round soul? Because I remember your Instagram stories. You put glasses and a hat on and you went shopping. Yeah, yeah. I went. I was like the first day after. I went back into the clinic. They check everything out. I got my jubby. And then I left. And I think I just went back home and I went to sleep. Yeah. And then I kind of like got up and down a little bit, whatever. Yeah. And then it was like the next day that I went out again.

28:04And I think I went back in to get another checkup. And I spent the whole day out. And I was fine. Yeah. But I also overdo things like, you know. Yeah. FOMO. Yeah. Like I'm like, I'll just keep walking. They're like, slow movements will help your flow of your lymphatic change. I'm like hiking six kilometers through salt. Yeah. I think everyone's obviously different, but I definitely probably pushed myself probably a bit too much. But yeah, by day, they call it three, but I would call it two.

28:32you are pretty good to walk around and do everything. It's just your face that's like. Blowing up. What was the worst day for swelling? Like when were you at your absolute worst? Oh, my God, like day three. I was like, I thought it was going to be bad like the day two. And I was like, and they're like, no, it's going to get worse. I was like, okay. So I knew that. It didn't really, none of that actually wigged me out because I kind of have had the worst boob experience where I never called the surgeon back.

28:53But I was like, at this point, I'm already here. I've already done this. If I'm botched and I look like Catwoman for the rest of my life, like, it's happened. I can't reverse the clock now. I just have to roll with this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hello, kids. It's me. It's self-acceptance. Yeah, yeah. I made the decision. I did it and this is me. Yeah, so that was kind of where I was at with that. I think it takes a few surgeries and I guess some big balls to get to that nine set because I know a lot of other people would not be able to.

29:24get into that zone in their head. Did he have any thoughts on like biostimulators and fillers and fat transfer and things like that in your discussions with him? I'm just interested, but with his approach to your face, a lot of surgeons will do other things as well, but you didn't. No, he definitely wanted to do a fat transfer and I have also been offered this when I've had my breasts done, fat transfers, and I know that at least 50% of the fat will be die, you know what I mean?

29:55And with me getting a surgery overseas where I'm not going to go fly back to Docton in three weeks' time or eight weeks, you know, or whatever it is, I'm not going back. So to have that where it could be one whole side of my face, it's not like it's a breast that you can, like, prop on up with, like, a brow or something. It's my face. And to have volume loss through one whole side or it be whatever was just not a risk I was willing to take realistically.

30:24So, yeah, they will generally want to offer a range of things. Most of the time, everyone wants to use over there a fat transfer as well. With certain areas of your face that are more vascular, Andrew Greensmith discussed this in our podcast with him, there's more areas, especially under the eye, are highly vascular, so they've got a better chance of taking it. Because it needs to attach itself to a vascular supply. It needs to find a blood flow.

30:49And if it doesn't find blood flow, it will die. Whereas the breasts don't. So you lose a lot more fat from your breasts than you do in certain areas of your face. My doctor didn't translate that through the Ukrainian. But that's why they might have done that. They don't really do the full fat transfer to the breast as much anymore because they've noticed longitudinally that it just doesn't stay. Yeah, I know a few friends that have done it to their boobs.

31:16They lose it. All of it. Yeah. I think it's like an initial look thing too that surgeons go, oh, we'll add this on, we'll fluff you out. And then six weeks later they're flat. Yeah, exactly. I feel like that's... kind of what I learned about breasts anyway. And I applied it to my face and clearly I was wrong. I just wanted some breasts on my face. Do you have feeling? Do you feel numb or do you feel... Well, like I haven't... Everyone talks about that weird nerve or numb feeling.

31:42And then it wasn't until like... Because you can't wash your face like vigorously for a long time. Yeah. And everyone goes to kiss me and I'm like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, Kim Kardashian now. Don't touch my makeup. I felt my face this morning. And I was like, oh, maybe like I do have kind of like a bit of numbness, I'd call it. More like numbness, not complete sensation loss, just that kind of weird numb feeling. But nothing that's like wigged me out.

32:13I felt like throughout the surgery, I felt things progressing how they should normally kind of do in terms of feeling and everything like that. Would you do anything differently if you were making the decision again? I think there's a few things I definitely would do differently. And I've kind of spoken about this a little bit. But I would probably look into pain management and what you're allowed to do and what you are actually allowed to get. Or, you know, I would talk to a doctor firstly in Australia, not even a plastic surgeon, just instantly.

32:44a general GP before even going and doing it. So I had someone who was across my surgery with the surgeon in Korea and just double checking every little thing from what they use in the anesthetic, you know, those tiny little things that you actually don't think about that can be a really big thing because, yeah, they answered all of my questions and everything checked out, do you know what I mean? And the surgeon checks out. But these are little tiny things that, gave me paranoia sometimes.

33:13Yeah. Like, afterwards, I was like, do I have a blood clot in my heart? Yeah. If I get on this plane right now. You know, but like, yeah, yeah, little things like that. But also having someone in Australia who when you do come back and you need to be like, hey, I've just, like, me rocking up to my GP, so I just had a facelift. Like, I was here the other week with my kid with a cough, but I just went out of the facelift. Do you think this is normal?

33:38And they're like, what the fuck? Because I guess in Australia, like, when we have referrals, get sent to a doctor to go see a specialist, then they email each other back. Yeah, and if anything was to happen, you'd go, I need another referral to go in and see this or do this. I think that's really important to have someone who's across a care plan when you come home even. Because I was like, give me a painkiller so I could have a good night's sleep because I had not slept really, like probably at all.

34:04A painkiller and a sleeping pill. Thank you. A painkiller. What else would you have done different? I would have gotten a doctor for my aftercare plan so they could talk together. I would have... Asked about compression boots, like the things that squeeze my legs, because I can't remember them putting them on me. And I still like to this day, I'm like, did they put compression boots on, guys? I'm like, did they put compression boots on? Yeah, like that night.

34:28Did you stay in hospital overnight when you went straight home? No, I went straight home in a bloody cab. What? I went in a cab. My sister booked a taxi. Did she come and get you? I was like, did you not book an Uber Luxe? A limo? And you didn't have like stockings, you didn't have compression stockings on or anything? No, not that I worked. After a four hour surgery? No, but I was like, but I went and bought them, but I was like, the ones that squeeze your legs, the whole surgery, that's what I meant.

34:51I was like, did you guys put that on me? Like, there's just a few things that slightly freak me out a little bit, but I know that. everything did comply, you know, and I asked all these pre-op questions. And I would have definitely done my underneath neck so everything aged at the same time. Because now I'm like, oh, I've got to get back there. Did you not do that because you thought it was too much? No, I didn't think I needed to have it done and he didn't think I needed to have it done.

35:19And it probably would have been such a subtle look. But overall, I think it is such a subtle look that I could have probably had done it and it would have everything would have aged kind of at the same rate. Yeah. If that makes sense. Like, I don't want to have, like, a turkey goblin neck in my life. And his tight face. Tight face. Also, I was, like, freaking out super hard before the operation. I was like, are you sure? I was like, tell him, lady, that I don't.

35:42He can understand me also at this time. It's just, like, Korean people have such pride that they don't want to, like, speak English. English. But they can. But he could understand everything because he'd already be answering. I'm like, you didn't say anything. Are you even translating? Because he'd be like, you know, back. And then I was like, okay. But everything that I was saying, I was like, I don't want to look surprised. I don't want my eyebrows up here.

36:05Like I was freaking out hard. So I think he was just like, whoa, she's... You can definitely go home on day six. Pull those stitches out, off you go. You were fine. When I was getting my eyes done, I sent photos to the plastic surgeon and I was like, I do not want to look like this. This is how I did. Definitely do not want to look. When we're going in, I'm like, so not like those photos. Remember the photos? And I got them. Not like these, not like these, not like these.

36:30I just kept showing photos of me when I was like 21. I was like, make me look like this. He's like, send in for photos. I was like, no, just like me, but like this young. That's you. That's so good. It's like when I like send photos in of like if I've ever had consults and stuff, like, oh, so what is your achievement? What's your goal? And I'll send someone like so rogue. I think I sent Isabel Mathis one time. I was like, like this. That's it. He's just like.

36:57Isabel Mathers is so hot. I know. And he's like, you're crazy. I am not performing any surgery on you. How do you want to look? Isabel Mathers. Just like this. I need someone to look like this. Make my eyes green like hers as well. Dye my hair. And the body, the butt, like everything. Yeah, I think I just do that. I actually sit there having a giggle when I do it because I know that the surgeon's just going to spiral. So I'm probably blacklisted on everyone's thing.

37:23Yeah, you're blacklisted too, you and me. We're blacklisted. So. Funny. All right. So let's talk about beauty treatments for the rest of your life. Like, yes, you've done this surgery now, but if you only get one beauty treatment consistently for the rest of your life, what would it be? I don't know. I feel like that's very hard to answer because… Anti-wrinkle. Yeah, but then like... Laces. No. See, like I haven't had a facial in two years. Because we can't sit still.

37:52Yeah. That's like... Yeah, I need to take it. Yeah, when they do the layer and the layer and the layer and you go, I'm done. And then they put like five new layers and the mask and the hot and the wax. Then they sit there. I need to get out of here. Give me something painful. I'm like, I'm not sitting here for 11 minutes, 15 minutes with this. Stuff the mask. I've got one at home. I look in my eyes and I'm like looking at my phone. I'm like, am I going to lose my retinas?

38:14Okay. I can't do a facial. Like in one hour facial. I can't on the face. All the layers, all the things. I know, and it's not relaxing. It gives me, like, I start, like, getting my... It needs to be painful. And then you're like, if it's painful, it takes the distraction where you're like, okay, we're getting somewhere. It makes my heart start racing when I'm there. I'm like, I just really want to go. I feel like we need to take sleeping tablets and we go get facials.

38:33Oh, 100%. I was like, that's, like, the only time I can enjoy massage. I'm the same. I get, like, can't do massages, can't do facials. Can't even go to a chiropractor. I'm like, I just don't want to be touched. But then I need it. Same. But I need it. The funny thing is, you know, when you go to some countries and their full body massage by their culture includes your stomach and your boobs. Yes, I've had that done. And they won't touch your nipples, but they'll touch everything.

38:54And that's how they've been trained. And they literally go all in your boob without brushing the nipple. Mine was sitting like this. And then they're all on your stomach and it's like, whoa. So I've had one of those in New Zealand. One of those in New Zealand and one of those in the Maldives where you just don't see it coming. Then all of a sudden they're like massaging your boobs. And it's like, shoot. They happened to me in Bali. They happened to me in Bali too.

39:14And I was like, this is so wrong. My boyfriend was lying there at the time. I was like, he's rubbing my tits. I was like, Brian, Brian. And he's like, I'm like, Brian. I'm like, Brian. I had a Baladies man. I was like, I'm fucking worried. I had a Baladies man. You're doing my best. Same. And I was breastfeeding. With milk. I walked out and Val wasn't with me. And I walked out like traumatised. Same. Val's next door and he's like, are you okay? And I was like, I have just sprayed the whole thing with breast milk.

39:41And the guy goes, ooh, ooh. And I was like, sorry. I'm pretty. And that is no word of a lie. I literally sprayed breast milk at a Balinese man massaging my boobs. And I was like, he had a happy ending. Poor Garrett. And I was like, I don't think he was happy for him at all. And I was like, no, he would have loved it. I'm like, no, no. He's like, oh, my God, trauma. Anyway, that was the last time I was judged by getting a massage. Actually, Father's Day.

40:13Father's Day. I went and got a massage on Father's Day. Like, where? In Ampton Street, special massage. Happy ending? You're like, I never get a massage, but only on Father's Day. Just to really piss my husband off. That's what he said to me. He goes, what do you mean? You don't get massaged, you're doing it on Father's Day? And I was like, yeah, I'm really stressed. That was your subconscious doing that to Val on purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, Val.

40:42I had to make it about me, of course. Of course. I was probably like, did Beck book that for you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm meeting her down there. They're only fans money. Oh, my God. It's so good. All right, side quested again. All right, love it. Now we're talking milk squirting in Bali. Tootie touching. Is there a random or affordable, all right, we've popped a stitch. We've popped an internal stitch. I can't. Like the other day I was crying at Chanel.

41:08I was like, you're fucking ruining my face. Were you crying online? I remember the next day you were bruised. You're like, I've been crying so much. And you went online. She's all bruised again. I was all bruised. I'm going to leave it. I'll be like. I don't know. That's where you talked about the post thing I've lost and you were like, babe, I think you've got this. I was like, I don't know what the fuck's happening, but it's bad. Yeah, the general anesthetic really knocks you.

41:30Yeah, it does. I've had that before, bad, bad. And I said to the surgeon and he was like, yep, you're right in that. How many days does it last, do you reckon? Yeah. I think it was a few days. But it reminded me of the baby blues, like when your milk comes in and you just cry for three days. I cried leaving the hospital because I was like, no one's going to cook me food anymore and I really like the food and what am I going to do with this thing, this baby?

41:53Why did I have this? I love it but I don't. So I was like, Jess, this is not normal. I was like, he's like, why are you crying? I'm like, I'm just crying because I want to stay at the hospital and have someone look after my kid. I wish I was still there with him. How crazy is that? Fifteen years later, I wish I'd never checked out. I'd never stayed there. We're going to another house next. To me, it feels like that feeling... Where it just overtakes you for a few days and then, yeah.

42:18Yeah, yeah. No, it definitely – I definitely – But I was aware of it because the doctor was like, it is this and it will – let us know if it doesn't dissipate. So what happened with Bec? She was really smart when you had your eyes done. Yeah. She decided to book her birthday party on that day of baby blues. Ten days later. I recover really well. I don't really bruise or swell. I wouldn't think I would bruise or swell, but look what happened.

42:41I was like, look, I've been punched. Do you reckon it was worse because you flew early? I think it was worse for a lot of reasons. But, like, I just love me meeting some, like, you know, great guy from Australia who has a lovely wife, family, and I'm talking to him in the business lounge. He's going, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, and then I go to the bathroom. I come back and I go, oh, I've been talking to him for, like, three hours without, like, having a chat about everything.

43:02Yeah. And I come back, oh, my God, I am so sorry I look like this. He goes, oh, I don't know you look any different. I was like, this is bloody great, isn't it? I was like, do you feel sorry for me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you were so bruised. I came into customs. I came into Australia and the lady walked up and this is really bad of her. And she goes, okay, have we had our face done or did we get punched? And I was like, I had my face done, but imagine if I did get punched.

43:28I was like, you were being really, like, fully just came up. What if I've been attacked? like pushing my thing where you give the card to say declare or not. And she's like, face done? Oh, God, bunched. I was like, face done? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did your face ID work on your phone afterwards? No, I had to go get my... Like, I was the first person outside Apple before my... Like, after I'll post... Like, hallucinating at Apple, like, ugh. I can't get into my phone.

43:53And now, like, this happens all the time. But I feel like you still look like you're just really fresh. Why would it not let you go into your... Because it was the day after. I couldn't open because I have, like, lock on, lock on, lock on, lock. And you have to, like, you do the passcode, but then it needs your face again to get into certain apps, like Instagram. So it's like... Like your bank. Like your bank. I was like, Instagram. But it needs my face to, like, do certain things.

44:18I don't know how I did this on my phone, but it's a setting that I have. Yeah. And, yeah, so I went to go obviously try and call my partner and text him and nothing, could not do anything. I was like, he's going to find out in the Daily Mail what's happened. And he did. She couldn't get into her phone to tell him because her face didn't look like it did before. But, oh, my God. It was like, yeah, so I was like the first person at Apple and they're like, this happens all the time.

44:43All the time in Korea. And what about when you went through at the airport? No, I was worried about that, but you have a certificate saying like you've had. So you can't do the electronic way you've got to do. No, you do it the normal way because I think it like takes a photo of you when you like it doesn't really matter. I don't think. Or maybe I was like pregnant in my passport photo, so I kind of looked really swollen. Okay. So it was matching up perfectly.

45:04Okay, perfect. Perfect. So good. All right. One of these questions we love to ask when people come in and do a tell-all is, is there a random or affordable product you genuinely swear by that's like from a supermarket or a chemist or something? It doesn't have to be related to your facelift, just something you'd love. I love the Ordinary. The brand The Ordinary. The Ordinary, which is like red face peeling stuff. Red face peeling stuff. Is it a face mask?

45:32No, you put it on for like 10 minutes and you can use it like two times a week. This one. Oh, it's an AHA 30%. So like a chemical peel. Yeah. AHA 30%, the ordinary, and it's red. Yeah, it's red. You look like you're bleeding when you have it on. How much is it? You can get them for like… What is it? ASOS, actually. Oh, $17. There you go. Look at me. Cheap and cheerful. I'm on ASOS right now. We love it. She's already buying it. I love that product.

45:58So, Ruby, you mentioned before about your recovery and how you'd had breast augmentation in the past and a lift and how then you ghosted your surgeon. I reckon I could find the text thread to his wife going, he's botched me. Answer the phone, click phone. It's seven in the morning. I'm like, answer the clinic phone. And then when they settle down, the clinic's trying to call to make sure she's like, ghosted down. I'm like, I'm happy. I'm on the beach in a micro bikini.

46:26Now I want the bigger. And he's like, ghosted you now. So tell us about that. What size did you get? And was it after your third baby? Yeah, so I actually had a breast lift initially after I had two children breastfed both of the kids. And I didn't know this, but it is. It's a Medicare rebate if you breastfeed. I think more than two. It has to be two children within a certain time frame. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what it was. At that time, maybe.

46:53Yeah, at that time. And I was eligible because I had like salami nipples, like this big. My nipple was that big. Like if I showed you a picture of my nipple, it would be bigger than your face. And I had lost all the fat in the top of my breasts. So they hung really selling this. Like a mango in the sock. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally, yeah. And I went in and I basically hit the benchmark and it was because I wasn't getting an implant. I didn't want to get an implant.

47:21I just wanted to get a lift. Anyway, I have another baby. I breastfeed again. And at this stage, I literally have, because they cut me new nipples the first time because I had salami nipples. I was like, what size do I get? And he's like, we just do a standard 20 cent piece. I was like, cool. Cool. yeah anything's good for me right now yeah yeah yeah yeah um and then I went back the second time and he's like hey we can do another lift but we're literally just going to be moving your nipples back up and cutting off excess skin at this point you've lost all the fatty tissue that sits at the top of your breasts and it's it's just going to the bottom and to get anything for what you do for work you should probably put an implant in yeah and I was like well I don't want to look got an implant okay and i was like do i get a teardrop he's like no i won't do a teardrop i just do a round and i was like that's a bit annoying yeah he's like because it has less risk apparently of flipping yeah all of these things and it's like a mini you have a demi you have a full and then you have like girls around the pole yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and it depends on the placement behind the muscle yeah but also i have an extra large sternum which i didn't realize at the point in time okay

48:30Like, the way of placing will basically always have a break. You know what I mean? Yes, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so I go in and I'm like, I want the smallest of the small. I think I got, like, what's the sizing like again? I think it's 170, 190s, and you go into, like, 220s, 230s. I was getting, I swear, I, like, got a 160 mini. Yeah, yeah. Which is, like, nothing. I saw them on the table, they're like, hey. Yeah, yeah. That's like mils. Like imagine that amount of mils in a cup.

48:55So you think like when you're baking a full cup's 250 mils, it's like half of that plus. It was like half a cup. It was nothing. Half a cup of water. It was nothing. Yeah. And he was like, this is just going to push up your natural tissue. They were tiny. Obviously the swelling happens. And I was like... And my nipples, they've re-cut the nipples. And I'm like, you botched me. But, yeah, that's where I got to that. And basically the procedure I ended up having in the end, he did tell me multiple times, I really feel like you should go up to this size.

49:24And I said, no, I want really small natural. And they're actually probably slightly more unnatural looking because there's not enough to fill that full breast pocket. Yeah, you didn't have, like, enough breast tissue. He's like, it's like building a house. Yeah, yeah. You need the bigger profile at the bottom. Yeah. And then it goes, yeah, from the top. Yeah. And I think that's why we always initially go, let's do the teardrop because that's what it kind of does.

49:47But then the teardrop. No, but if you hold an implant on the side, this is what he did. He's like, if you get your implant, it's a teardrop. It's a teardrop anyway. It drops to the bottom. And I'm like, oh, yeah. Gravity. Gravity, gravity. Yeah. Okay. So then you got them. I'm like, three years in there. Okay. And then how long ago was that? Holiday would have been like six months, seven months old because I had to stop breastfeeding. And then you have to wait for all your milk to dry up.

50:10Yeah, yeah. So how did you go? Because you know how you had a lift before you had holiday? Yeah. How were you with breastfeeding? Was it hard or was it? Well, she was also born premature, which is really hard for a baby with super, you know. Because they're little and they don't know how to suck. She wasn't strong enough to suck. Her mouth was so small. So I breastfed her for like as long as I could, which for me was with two other children and having, you know, an older child who...

50:38Her needs. It was a lot and running, working. Yeah. Like breastfeeding is a full-time job. It is. It's full on. No, it's a full-time job. But it's good that you even could like, I've always. So I did eight weeks. I was like, I was like, just get to eight weeks so I can, you know, do what I can. And then in my head, I was like, I am not going to put pressure on myself. Yeah. You know? Because if you did, you wouldn't be able to get to eight weeks.

50:59Well, I was like, I was like mixed feeding towards the end, moving towards that. And then, yeah. Yeah, they could still function. Yeah, yeah. They could still function. I don't know if they could. They probably would now. Yeah. Just yours did. So you've got that same pair of implants in. Would you go bigger? I've asked to go bigger, and I think because of what I did to him, he went and asked. I went and had it. I was like, hey. She's trying to get in contact.

51:26You feel interested in? No. I had a consult, and he's just like, I'd rather go on a holiday than deal with you again. I love it. Awesome. Well, thank you so much, Ruby. It was so great to hear about all your career insights. We followed along. We loved how much you shared. It was so cool. And thank you for coming on to Vaynish and sharing your journey with us. So cool. Thank you. Also, I wanted to shout out your range. I'm wearing it. So you're in Melbourne today because you're launching your Ruby Tuesday Matthews for Ennapelli range.

52:01Yeah. This hoodie's really cute. And you're wearing the trench. We love Innapelli. And I wore it today. Jump on and have a look and see if you can get any leftover pieces. Leftovers. Get any leftovers, bitches. Yeah. So funny. All right, that was amazing. Yay, we'll see you tomorrow for a muggy. Yeah, bye. If you loved Ruby's boob chat and you want to hear more, this month is booby month with plenty more stories to come. See you in our next episode.

52:32Bye for now. Bye.