Building a Relationship With Your Charter Partner

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0:30Hello everybody, happy Friday to you. It's time for Cub Chat Live. I'm Aaron and I'm joined today by Sydney. How are you doing, young lady? I'm wonderful. Thank you so much. How are you, Aaron? I'm doing great, thank you. Cindy is a volunteer and a member of our National Cub Scouting Committee. Always an honor to have her on the show. Today's topic, chartering organizations. That's a phrase that most of you have probably heard. Some of you might not know exactly what it means. And yeah, we're going to talk about all the benefits of developing a strong, positive, healthy relationship with your chartering organization.

1:06Before we get started, quick shout out to Booze 93 who is watching on YouTube and was the first person to comment today. Good luck at your District Pinewood Derby tomorrow. It is that it is that time of the year, the most wonderful time of the year. Sydney. Shout out to Alex from Cub Scout pack 220. Good to see you, Rusty Scouter Craig Wendy, always good to see you. Alex always brings a positive attitude. Alexander says let's go. I agree. And our good friend Tamara says happy Friday to Sydney. Good to see you Tamara as well.

1:37All right, let's get this conversation started. Sydney chartered organization I always like to start at the beginning. What is a chartered organization? What does that mean? That's a great question. So chartered organization is an organization that has agreed to support a particular Cub Scout pack or a troop, any Scouting America unit, and is granted a charter by Scouting America. And those organizations provide legitimacy and community support to the pack, and they often have a vested interest in the development of the youth in the communities in which they're already serving.

2:12And this relationship really is mutually beneficial. The PAC gains credibility and resources from the existing chartering organization, and the chartering organization can reach its goals for youth engagement and community service. So it's a win win for both the PAC and the charter organization. Yeah. And we were talking about this Sydney before we went live. The impression that I get, and I think you agree, is that across the country with all of our different Cub Scout packs of many different sizes, many different locations, the relationship between their charter organization, some of them are, you know, intertwined very, very tightly. They may be a religious organization or something where everyone in the pack or almost everyone is a member and they might go to church there every weekend or or something like that.

2:59And they serve there and they meet there every week, right. And they have a really close knit relationship at the other end of the spectrum. There are probably some packs out there. We've both been I think maybe part of these type of packs where it's sort of a charter organization in name only. Maybe they don't. They know that they exist, but they don't really have a relationship there. And you know, that's OK, we get it. That sometimes happens. But there are advantages to developing that relationship and it's pretty easy to do. Sydney, I think you said, and I've been a part of this, when I took over as a Cub Scout leader, we had a chartered organization Rep that didn't even go to the religious organization, was not a member, but they did.

3:36Over time we developed that relationship. We began to be more and more close knit with them. And there's a lot of benefits to doing that. And that's really, I think the purpose of the show today to talk about the advantages of that a chartered organization, whatever it is, whether, and we're going to talk about different types of chartered organizations here in a second. The one thing they all have in common is that they have the same goals that we do. They want to serve their community. They want to develop youth.

3:58They're trying to provide strong role models, adult role models, and they can be a valuable, valuable partner and resource for your Cub Scout pack. Do not sleep on your charter organization, whatever. You know, if you're a Cub Scout pack who just sort of has a charter organization that's out there, pay attention because there's advantages to developing that relationship. Rob says happy birthday to our friend Shannon. Yes, Shannon, happy birthday to you. I don't know if it's today or this weekend or happy birthday, Shannon.

4:25Shout out to pack five O 6 in Huntington Beach. Liv love scouting is in the house. Always good to see you. Let's talk about then, Shannon, examples of charter organizations. I think we mostly it's usually churches, some sort of religious organization, but it doesn't have to be. Maybe talk about that a little bit. Absolutely, Erin. There are lots of different types of organizations that can be a charter organization. Like you said, religious institutions often participate as charter partners because they align their values with Scouting and want to foster that community outreach.

4:57But also PT OS, parent teacher organizations, Ptas, parent teacher associations, they can also charter organizations. They can charter a pack at the school, and that's great if if you recruit out of one school primarily and most of the kids go to that school. Also, local civic organizations and groups like the Rotary Club or the Kiwanis Club, the Lions Club, American Legion, VFW posts, all of those organizations can be a charter organization for a pack.

5:30And with all of those organizations, you're going to find different strengths and different resources that they have and that they're able to bring to the table. And developing that relationship kind of depends on, on what the organization is and, and what they're able and and willing to do. Absolutely shout out to Troop Looks like Scouts BSA Troop 57 in New Mexico. Good to have you watching on YouTube. Always fun to have Scouts BSA folks here watching because they probably have relationships with the Cub Scout packs in their community. So always good to see that.

6:01All right, so we've talked about the definition of a chartered organization. We've talked about the different kinds of organizations that can serve as chartered organizations. Let's talk about the role of chartering organizations and others. Paperwork. Anybody who's been a part of the rechartering process, which I've been a part of Sydney, I'm sure you've been a part of, You know, you have to bring when I'm back in my day, I had to bring a big old stack of papers to the pastor at the church down the street and have them sign it.

6:26And I had to kind of explain to them what why they were signing this and what it meant. But the role of a chartered organization can and really probably should be much larger than that because it's really a mutually beneficial relationship. When done the right way, it helps both sides. So, Sydney, let's talk about the role of chartered organizations in Cub Scouts. So Erin, like you said, sometimes we see our charter organization kind of just as a signature that we have to get a box that we have to check. And if you're in that boat, that's OK. Let's let's come up with some ideas and some tips about how we can build that relationship so that it's more than just a check mark or or a signature.

7:06So chartering organizations really can provide our packs with a lot of support and resources to start with. A lot of chartering organizations are able to help our packs secure a meeting space, like a physical location where they can have their pack meetings, where they can have their den meetings. Sometimes they can, but maybe they either have a building or a Community Center or some physical location that we can use, or they have a connection with another organization that that has that that physical resource for us. Also, they can offer, offer mentorship. There are lots of experienced people who have varying talents and hobbies and interests in those organizations that we can tap into to see if hey, does does anybody really like fishing that's in that organization?

7:56And if they do, maybe, maybe they can come to the fishing Derby with us and maybe they would get engaged with our with our kiddos, helping them learn about fishing. Or maybe they have a really cool fishing rod and lures that they can bring and, and show US. So there are their mentorship roles that they can, that they can provide for us. And then they have a lot of legal and organizational responsibilities that we as a PAC really do need to recognize.

8:23Our, our chartered organization is responsible for approving our PAC leadership. They're responsible for ensuring that we are in compliance with Scouting America's policies like safeguarding youth and youth protection policies, making sure that our leaders are trained and meeting those trained requirements, and making sure that our leaders are following the guide to safe Scouting. Which is why it's really important for our chartering organization to check in with us, with our pack, with our leaders and make sure that they know what's going on because they are taking on a lot of responsibility and liability in signing on to be a charter organization. Right.

8:59Yeah, absolutely. And and if if you're one of those packs, like my pack was many, many years ago, where you, you're looking at the list of things that a charter organization can do and it's, you know, helping provide leadership, helping provide meeting spaces. And you might be thinking, oh gosh, my chartered organization doesn't do any of that. Well, the next 21 minutes are for you because we're going to talk about how you can fix that, how you can take advantage of that.

9:22Like Sydney said, when we talk about providing a place to meet, it's not all. Maybe they have a place to meet on their property on their grounds. But of course, if it's APTA there, maybe don't, They don't have a building, right? But there are other ways that they can help. Trust us, it's worth it. And I'm going to, I know we're going to talk about this over the next 20 minutes, but I would like to issue just some advice maybe for the folks watching. If you're a chartered organization does not do that for you sometime in the next few weeks, set up a meeting with the leader of whoever it is, the pastor, whoever it is at a church, the whatever it is, and just start that conversation. It's a pretty simple conversation. Hi, I'm Aaron, I'm the leader of the Cub Scout pack. But you guys charter and I want to talk about how we can better serve you and how you can better serve us. And you know, it's like you said, you both have the same goals here.

10:11We're trying to help these kids learn values, learn skills, develop leadership skills. Your charter organization wants the same thing, so you're going to people who already are interested in that same thing. I want to scroll. We got a few comments real quick here. Alexander says his chartered organization, the VFW Post. Yeah. I find that to be a very, very common. They make great partners. Rob says their charting organization actually sponsors 3 different Cub Scout packs, one Scouts, BSA troop and two Venturing crews. That's a cool involved charting organization right there. Alex says yeah, he remembers his parents having that big stack of paper.

10:47Yeah, been there and done that. The chat offers that good communication between the charting organization and the unit is important. I find it best when the Clr is actually part of the unit. Yeah, that's that's a great point there. And maybe we can just dive into that real quick. Sydney, the chartered organization Rep. What does that mean? What is that person supposed to do? And maybe you could, I know that's not on our agenda right now, but just talk about that real quick maybe.

11:09Sure. So like like Chad pointed out, it's great when the chartered organization representative is already a member of the pack. So maybe you're chartered by the Lions Club or the Rotary and you have an adult in your pack who is also a member of the Rotary or the Lions Club and can take information back to their meetings and report back on what the packs doing and can bring information from those meetings to the pack and let them know, you know, hey, we have this parade coming up and, and we'd really like for you guys to be involved in it. It's just an easier way of communicating. The chartered organization representative does not have to be like the head of the chartering organization. That's the institutional head.

11:53That's a different role. So it does not have to be the, the pastor or the rabbi at your religious institution. It does not have to be the president of the PTO. It can be a member of the organization that's involved in both and that that's a great ideal situation. And another, another really important thing that that kind of goes, it dovetails with this is that the chartering organization is really there to provide this sense of continuity because leaders in Cub Scouts come and go.

12:27I'm, I'm in Ohio and we have a, a large military presence. We have an Air Force Base here. And so we have a lot of military families that come in for a couple of years and then are, are stationed somewhere else and move on. Just use, you know, transferring into, into BS scouts, BSA troops. So what a chartering organization can do is really make sure that the pack has a solid foundation that they can continue after the Cubmaster moves on or after that really awesome treasurer moves on that that the pack doesn't struggle trying to fill that void.

13:03And they can make sure that that they're providing stability and guidance for the pack during those leadership turnovers. Awesome, Awesome. Yeah, very, very cool. Shout out to PAC 320 in New Berlin, IL Shout out to PAC2O5. And is it Monclova? OH, don't know if that's anywhere near you, Tamara, but maybe one of your neighbors in Ohio there. PAC 169 in Forest Grove, OR Appreciate. Yeah. They say they work very closely with their charting organization, so that's very cool.

13:33Yeah. So Sydney, we've talked about the chartered organization Rep and I maybe I just maybe we'll throw one more thing and they're like you said, it doesn't have to be the head of that institution. It doesn't have to be the main person in charge of there. It could be a parent in your pack who's a member. It also doesn't have to be that. It could be someone who has some scouting background, who's a member of that congregation or whatever organization it is. It could be anyone who's interested in just volunteering a little bit of their time to help the community. Obviously religious organizations, it's kind of what they do.

14:05So again, another great example of how that could be mutually beneficial. If your charting organization isn't actually providing their own chartered organization Rep, if you're just checking a box on the application because you have to, it's a good chance because you just haven't asked, like you just haven't asked them, hey, do you have somebody who could serve that role, who could be the link between those two organizations? You know, there's a really good chance they're going to be interested in doing that because, again, they have a lot to gain from this as well.

14:34Sydney, we got off. We got off track here. I've lost track of where we are, our conversation. What else do the folks need to know about chartered organizations? So let's talk about what to do kind of if you're starting out on building this relationship, maybe you're just checking a box right now and you want to, you know, you want to go and you want to go and meet with your chartered organization and, and build up that strong relationship. What are some things that you can do? So open and consistent communication that is really important.

15:00It's the cornerstone of any successful relationship. So check in with your chartered organization. If you're the COR, try to go to committee meetings with the pack and then try to go to those meetings and pass that information on to the organization so that you both know what's going on. What needs there are what successes you've had, sharing successes, but also challenges openly. If you guys are struggling in something, if, if the pack is struggling with, with locating a, a place to have a meeting or they need some place to park the trailer, being able to share those needs, those concerns openly with your chartering organization is really important because that chartering organization is there to help you succeed. They're there to help lift you up and, and, and provide you for the, for the things that you need. And so, so sharing with them that the successes, but also those those struggles that you're having is, is really key. And then engaging that leadership, inviting them to activities.

16:07Aaron Use, you mentioned in one of the shout outs that it's Pinewood Derby time, right? Who's invited their chartering organization to the Pinewood Derby? Because I mean, what adults really wouldn't want to see a whole bunch of Cub Scouts being super excited about how fast their car is racing. And I bet when when my pack, when my pack did this, we had it in our school and we invited the Superintendent. And the Superintendent was a Scout and he had a son that was a scout.

16:38And they both brought old Pinewood Derby cars of their own. And they joined in the race and raced them. And he had an absolutely wonderful time. And the next time that our pack needed to come in to do recruiting or use the gymnasium for an activity, Superintendent was oh, yeah, you guys are great. I had so much fun at the Pinewood Derby. Yeah, come on. And and we'll, we'll make this work. So invite your charter organization. Invite those people to participate in Pinewood Derby or in your blue and gold or in a crossover ceremony.

17:13It's, it's a great way to get them engaged and to actually let them see what Scouting really is all about and what Cub Scouts is about the, the, the youth having fun and being excited about, about participating in things. Yeah, I, I, I love the idea of, of inviting your charter, someone from your charter organization, whether again, it's the head of the institution or not, to, if they don't already come to some of your events, right? Come to a Pinewood Derby, to a Pinewood Derby's a great idea because it's such an enthusiastic, fun, high energy event.

17:44There's always excitement and cheering, things like that. So, you know, if they've never been around Cub Scouting before, Boy Pinewood Derby, what I mean, I can't think of a better event for them to go to. They could also come to a camp out or something like that, right Experience. They could, they could come to just a regular meeting, anything like that to make sure they're aware kind of of what you guys are doing. They, they might not know, you know, even if they were Cub Scouts themselves as kids, even if they've been involved in the program, it'd be good to show them what your specific pack is all about, you know, to meet those kids, to see them face to face, to get to be a part of that. I love it.

18:19Sydney, I might be going out of order here. I apologize, but let's talk about communicating with your Pinewood. We Pinewood Derby rap, your charter organization, keeping them involved. I love the idea of making sure that they have access to your calendar, make sure they get updates, make sure they get your emails. Maybe talk about that kind of thing real quick for us. So it's really important that you're, that you're making sure that they're, they're getting that information that, that if they have goals, if, if they are looking for you to participate in their upcoming parade or maybe they're going to have a festival or a fair and they're, they're wanting the pack to be involved.

18:55Maybe you could set up a fun and games booth where they could come and and people coming to the fair could could play games or get temporary tattoos, you know, fun, fun kinds of stuff like that where you can didn't support your organization because of that communication, because they've told you what's what's on their calendar and you've communicated with them about, you know, this is what we have planned. Is there is there anything that we're missing?

19:20Is there is there cool stuff that you have or are there needs that you have? One other thing that I think is a really great way to connect with your chartering organization is through service projects. So when when I was when the pack that I was involved with first, originally we were chartered by a Presbyterian, by a a Methodist Church. Sorry, excuse me. We were chartered by a Methodist Church and they would always get a big donation of mulch and the Cub Scouts would come and we would help remulch everything at the beginning of spring.

19:54And the Cub Scouts loved that because who doesn't love playing in the dirt? And it was great for the church because not only did their gardeners get to come and interact with the youth, but they had a lot of a lot of work done very quickly. But right away we found out that the church also had some individuals that were members of the church that needed help with their own landscaping, that needed help with their own gardens. Things were overgrown. So the.

20:22The church would let us know, Hey, we have, we have this member that needs us to, to come and and remulch their, their area, their their walkway there. There's some bushes that need to be removed. Can can you guys come and help? So we were able to go to those members and help the help our chartering organization and its members even more than than just at one location. Same with shoveling snow. If you shovel snow at your chartering organization and maybe see if there are some other members of the chartering organization or people that are associated with it that that a group of you could go and help do a service project there.

21:03There. There are lots of really great ways that you can get involved. Another example is a trash cleanup. So we did a trash cleanup at our schools. This was the the first one that we did was around the time of COVID and everybody was socially distancing, but we socially distanced and cleaned up trash while we were socially distanced. But then we, we figured out how much trash we had collected from the school grounds and sent an e-mail to our Superintendent who responded by, you know, wanting to push this out on our schools social media. And that got more people interested in our pack because of the things that we were doing to give back to our community, to give back to our, our schools, to give back to, to, to encourage our, our youth, our kids to, to do service and to, to make sure that we're, we're helping others. Yeah, I love that.

22:02Yeah. One, one of the things that my pack did back in the day, Sydney was just a simple trash pickup around the grounds of the church that sponsored us. Right. And by the way, shocking walking around a church grounds, how much trash has blown into the bushes and the shrubs. So there's plenty of work to be done. Yeah. I also love that you mentioned in your notes sharing your pack successes, crossovers, things like that. When, when, when Cub Scout packs have earned all of the adventures for a rank and they've they're getting promoted to the next rank. That's a great opportunity to invite a someone from the charting organization to come and help celebrate that with you.

22:35Right, Because that's a big deal. We saw things. Yeah, that's very cool. One of the things you mentioned, Cindy, in your notes is flag retirement ceremonies. Another great way for Cub Scott Packs to to chip in. Maybe talk about that real quick. So this is great not only if you're chartered by a VFW or American Legion Post, but any chartering organization that you have, having a flag retirement ceremony and inviting those, those service members or those, those members of your chartered organization to, to attend, to participate. It's, it's very meaningful for them. And it's really meaningful for your scouts to be able to see those people and to be able to personally thank them. And a really cool idea that I know, I know lots of packs do this.

23:20I know my pack did. This is for an adult. After the flag ceremony is all done and ashes are cold out, everything is good. You can take the grommets from the the flag retirement ceremony from the flags and you can braid them onto some paracord and you can give them to those vets that were that were there as kind of a keepsake or, or a thank you. And that's a really cool craft project that the Cub Scouts can do to to give back a token of their appreciation.

23:52We we could probably do a whole show on flag retirement. I have one of my fondest memories of being a Cub Scout leader was when our City Hall down the down the road here gave us a flag that they had been flying that was worn out and needed to be retired. And so we did, we had a little retirement. We didn't burn it. We, we cut it following the US flag code and retired it. But then I don't think I've ever seen a room as quiet as it was. And we were doing that, Sydney, a room full of, you know, at the time, it was first through 5th graders.

24:16And man, it was, that was really cool. So we can probably do a whole show on that, but definitely recommend that. And another thing that you that you commented or that you wrote in your notes for the show Sydney, was the idea of soliciting feedback from the charter organization, some of which might be positive, but someone which they might have some ideas and some suggestions on things you could do better. And that's OK. Maybe talk about that real quick.

24:37Absolutely. So communication is so important, not just communication to plan things or to organize things, but communication to make sure that if you're, if you're utilizing their meeting space, maybe ask and make sure, are we, are we cleaning up the right way? Are we, are we putting chairs and tables back the way that you want us to? Is there something else that we should be doing, getting that clarification feedback for them on the little things? Do we take the trash out?

25:03Do we turn the lights off or on the bigger things of, hey, we were thinking about doing this service project or this activity. What are, what are your thoughts? And making sure that, that they're having some input and, and they're giving their wisdom and sharing their mentorship with you as pack leadership. They, they have great insight into the needs of the community and the needs of their organization. And they can be a wealth of resources and and a great a great way for you to to grow and expand not only in your pack, but in in serving your community.

25:38Yeah, one of the really valuable lessons that we learned from our tour organization and and it just wasn't something I thought about addressing, but we would we would meet at our at the church. And so obviously the kids would use the bathroom. And let's just say Cindy, that one time they didn't really clean up after themselves like they should have. And we got got a call from the church and of course, I was very apologetic. But what a great lesson for these kids to know.

26:01Hey, listen, this is a privilege that we have to meet at this property. They are doing us a favor by letting us meet there. We need to be responsible. We need to leave no trace. And kind of gross, but, yeah. But that was a great lesson, you know, for these kids to learn. They just, you know, kids being kids, right? And I didn't think about addressing that in advance. So, hey, those conversations can be productive on both sides, even if they have some. You know, that was kind of a complaint. And I get it.

26:27They were, you know, they told they were totally in their right to be a little bit annoyed with us at that point. And I, I apologize, when we talked to the kids, it never happened again. So anyway, another great lesson to be learned, right? From but but it's that feedback. Exactly. It's it's they, they told you that there was a problem before it blew up into this, you know, horrible thing that that ended a relationship. So getting that feedback, asking, Hey, are we doing, are we doing things right? Are we, are we maintaining the facility the correctly or is there something that we should be working on? It's, it's sets a good, a good example for our Cub Scouts, just like you said, Aaron.

27:02Absolutely. We, we've talked a lot since Cub Chat Live existed, since it came into existence a few years ago. We've talked about the importance of recognizing Cub Scouts immediately when they are an achievement or something like that. We've talked about recognizing Cub Scout volunteers, parents for their hard work and dedication. I don't know if we've ever talked about recognizing the charting organization. I think that's a great idea. Talk about that real quick and, and how that how that looks and what you can do, what you can benefit from that. So recognizing your chartering organization can really be anything that you guys that you think it should be. A lot of times for for packs that are chartered by a religious institution, a charter, a charter organization recognition ceremony is done usually around the anniversary birthday of of Scouting.

27:53So in February, a lot of times churches or synagogues do it on Scout Sunday or Scout Sabbath. So that that's a great time because because you're already there as a presence in the religious institution that then you can present kind of ceremoniously present the chartering organization with the actual charter paper. It That's, that's always a nice touch to, to kind of give a, a state of the pack report of, you know, this is how many cub Scouts we have.

28:25This is how many service hours, this is how many nights of camping. We did kind of hit those those high points of the packs past year. That way the the members of the chartering organization can see what an impact the pack is having on their community and, and they they see the benefits of continuing to support the pack. And that that works not just for a religious institution that also works at a parent teacher organization meeting or at a school board meeting.

28:56That can work at a meeting for the Rotary Club or the Kiwanis Club or at a AVFW post. You can do a chartered presentation ceremony at any of those meetings at any time. And they're, well, the presentations and ceremonies website has a ceremony script that you can utilize, but it doesn't have to look any certain way. It's kind of it's kind of up to you to say thank you to your chartering organization because they are putting in a lot of work and responsibility, especially when you build that relationship with them and and becomes that mutually beneficial working relationship. Awesome, awesome.

29:37Yeah. We have just a minute or so left in our show today. We've had some great ideas. I, I apologize, Cindy, Speaking of the history of Cub Chat Live, something happened today that has never happened before. I cannot scroll through the comments. I don't know what happened, but I do like want to say thank you to all of those of you who are commenting. I can't see them, but that's OK because I know they're really good. Our our viewers always do a great job of sharing ideas. Thank you behind the scenes, Brian for throw throwing those comments up.

30:03Yeah, Brian over the next minute or so maybe throw some up because I can't see him on my end. I apologize for that. But City, before we end the show, I have one bit of advice for our viewers and maybe you could share your last bit of advice too. My advice is if you don't have that relationship yet with your charter organization, now's a great time to start. All it takes is a phone call or an e-mail or a letter and just say, hey, I'd love to stop by for 10-15 minutes, talk about Cub Scout Pack 122, whatever it is, and talk about how you can start. And that could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship. Sydney, before we let you go, your final thoughts on the benefits of charting organizations and how they can benefit your Cub Scout units.

30:41Aaron, I think, I think you, you absolutely said it perfectly. Start with those baby steps. If you're trying to build a relationship, don't think that you're going to jump in and everything is going to magically work. Start off with an invitation to a fun event. Start off with inviting them to Pinewood Derby. Start off with inviting them to come to a picnic or inviting them to come to your crossover ceremony or an advancement ceremony. Just just reintroduce yourself to them and start building that relationship because really our chartering organizations are great resources in our community and, and we should, we should build with them.

31:17We should work with them. They they can make excellent partners for us. Yeah, absolutely. Their goals are the same as our goals to give kids and families a community and, and, and teach them ideals of Cub Scouting. Sydney, this has been great. It's always a pleasure working with you. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. Thanks for joining us today. Thank you. Thank you all. See you next week. Thank you all for watching. Do we know what next week show is Sydney? Are we able to tease that?

31:45I'm, I'm not sure, but actually I'm going to tease backwards a little bit and say did hopefully everybody watched the awesome episode on the 250th anniversary celebration of the Liberty and action Patch that our Cub Scouts that all all of us can earn, but especially our Cub Scouts. They're lots of fun and great activities. And I'm betting that a lot of chartering organizations would be interested in helping out, participating. Then maybe they're trying to plan their own 250th activities. And so maybe now is the perfect time to get in touch with them and say, hey, we have this really awesome idea for, for a pack activity that we're going to do. Do you guys want to come and help? Do you guys want to come and and hang out and have fun and learn about how how our country used to be 250 years ago? That's a a great idea, Sydney.

32:39If Tamara is still watching, I'm sure she probably posted next week's topic in the in the comments. I don't know 'cause I can't see them. Sorry. Sorry Tamara. Sorry, Sydney, but thank you again so much for joining us today. Thank you all for watching at home. We hope you enjoyed the show. As a reminder, we are a podcast. You can go back and listen at any time. You can also listen on your phones, in your car, whatever you need to do there. Thanks again to behind the Scenes Brian for throwing those comments up. I appreciate it.

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