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Happy Friday! Zip joins the gang today, and we kick off this episode by paying respects to Dolly Parton, Samuel Monroe Jr., and Tim Curry, all of whom we lost over the last couple of days. Lil Durk begins off his RICO trial, and the guys discuss the tragedy of the situations that rappers have been finding themselves in with the law. Hit Boy reveals that he hasn’t spoken to Nas in three years since the release of “Magic 3”, Vic Mensa and Chance the Rapper unpack their old beef in an emotional first episode of “The Vic Mensa Show”, and we break down some of the…

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Speaker 1:Manish on that beach.

Speaker 2:I don't even know what the fuck that shit means.

Speaker 1:Manish on that beach? No, Manish on the beat. On the beat, yeah. It's the producer.

Speaker 2:Oh.

Speaker 1:It took me like seven listens to find that out as well. I didn't know what it was. The fuck? It sounded good though. Provocative. Oh, he Indian. What you thought? You thought he was biracial? Manish? What you thought?

Speaker 2:What you thought Manish looked like me? Shout out my nigga Manish. What you thought Manish was from? Manish on the beach. You thought he was from Detroit?

Speaker 1:No, Manish is in Sahara East right now. Where you thought Manish was from? I mean, that also sounds like it could be a black girl name. Manisha? Manisha sound like a black girl? That's why I thought he was saying Manisha on the beach. That's what I really thought he was saying. Like, I know a Manisha. Like, that's why I'm like, I don't know. I know a Manisha for sure. Manisha? Yes. How's she spelled? Well, you know how black people get with these names. M-A-N-I-S-H-A. I nailed a Misha before. A girl named Misha. I don't know if that was the end part or the whole name.

Speaker 1:That was short. It was short. It might have been a whole name. That was short for either Kamisha, Tamisha. It might have been a whole name. It could have been.

Speaker 3:Right.

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Speaker 4:You can catch us now, patreon.com forward slash new Rory Amore.

Speaker 1:We are out there. I mean, listen, man.

Speaker 4:First and foremost, before we start, we want to send prayers, condolences, rest in peace to the legend, iconic Dolly Parton, who we lost earlier this week.

Speaker 1:Rest in peace to Ms. Dolly Parton. Rest in peace to the legend, Ms. Dolly Parton. I love the fact that that. The story about the I Will Always Love You record.

Speaker 2:How she kept eating off of that all them years? Because every chance she got, she let us know she.

Speaker 1:Was eating that.

Speaker 4:I love the part of the story when she obviously, Whitney Houston covered the song, Bodyguard, and all the money that it grossed.

Speaker 1:Obviously, Dolly Parton wrote the record.

Speaker 4:All the money that it grossed, over $ 10 million, she put into Nashville, into a black community.

Speaker 1:Dolly? Yeah, and then named the building, the house that Whitney built. Oh, that's fine.

Speaker 4:I thought that was dope that that story is going viral again. A lot of people didn't know that.

Speaker 2:I think every lady in America should put their titties on the phone and honor Miss Dolly Parton.

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 1:She put titties on the map. She put titties on. I'm saying she put on for titties.

Speaker 2:I think every lady should throw their titties on the phone.

Speaker 6:I mean, or we could just put on like a blonde wig or like a lot of makeup or like be talented in country music.

Speaker 1:Nah, nah, nah. Fuck all that.

Speaker 7:We can't build an amusement park today. Let's just go with what's easier. Yeah, just push your shit up. Let the titties be flying at half mass.

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 1:Put your broad half mass. Yeah, let the titties be flying at half mass.

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 7:Fuck that. Rest in peace, Miss Dolly Parton. That's not sexualizing the marriage. That was a big thing of her. That was her thing.

Speaker 1:That was her aesthetic. The same way people say Marilyn Monroe is empowering or whatever. I think Dolly did that with her titties.

Speaker 6:Well, that's because everybody sexualized her so much she didn't really have a choice but to.

Speaker 3:Cool.

Speaker 1:Dolly wasn't the first person to bring up.

Speaker 6:Yeah, guys, I got big ass titties. Everybody will always bring them up. So she had to eventually just be like, yes, I have big titties. We all know.

Speaker 1:She wasn't trying to cover them things up, though. No, she wasn't trying to cover it. And her prime is Dolly was showing them things. She was letting them things fly. She knew what was working.

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 4:She was obviously talented as well, but she knew what men was looking at.

Speaker 1:Yeah. If y'all going to look, but then y'all going to listen as well.

Speaker 2:I think she inspired like a whole generation of porno chicks that had them big old boobs and all.

Speaker 1:I think they was trying to look like Dolly. Absolutely. Her aesthetic was definitely.

Speaker 2:Yeah Her shit Her shit Like Put your titties on the phone man Do it for Dolly Yeah do it.

Speaker 6:For Dolly Well on Twitter There is currently Hashtag do it for Dolly Yeah Or hashtag for Dolly And it's just women Showing their titties.

Speaker 1:Okay Right Let's just get to that She was the first Titty Tuesday of all time Why don't you look at me You know what I mean Are you on that hashtag Yeah I clicked it last night With scrolling Hey we all agree I mean did you.

Speaker 6:Jump into I don't have any titties babe I wouldn't embarrass myself like that But it's okay.

Speaker 1:I gotta wait. All titties. J-Lo dies or something.

Speaker 6:When J-Lo dies, then I could get it for J-Lo trend. But for Dolly trend, I know my stripes and my weaknesses.

Speaker 4:Well, just make sure you tag me so I can see that hashtag. I didn't see do it for Dolly. But I would love to support and honor Ms.

Speaker 1:Dolly Parton. Right.

Speaker 4:Also, rest in peace to Samuel Monroe Jr., who was in some of our favorite movies growing up. Menace to Society.

Speaker 1:Yeah.

Speaker 4:Don't Be a Menace, Set It Off, Players Club. He was battling meningitis and he, you know, unfortunately lost his battle. So prayers and condolences to Samuel Monroe Jr.

Speaker 1:And his family. Yeah. And I feel like, oh, Tim Curry. Also Tim Curry. We lost Tim Curry. Tim Curry. Who was that? Actor from Pennywise. He was Pennywise.

Speaker 4:He was the hotel manager in Home Alone.

Speaker 1:You know Tim Curry. Iconic in Home Alone. I think he was the creepy professor in Scary Movie 2 as well. No, that wasn't him. No, I think they were trying to make fun of him though. No, he was in Scary Movie. You talking about the one with the weird hand? No, that wasn't the professor. You know Pennywise, though, right? I got nothing. Well, I mean.

Speaker 4:Well, rest in peace to the iconic, iconic actor.

Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4:So now, damn. So in Home Alone, the mom, the dad, and.

Speaker 1:I saw on Twitter when I was in the barbershop, I was looking at my phone and they had the scene in the hotel lobby. And it was like, damn, everybody in the scene is dead. Yeah. Yeah, it was. It was definitely like you have to word it that way. Right. Could have just honored the scene.

Speaker 4:Iconic movie. Yeah, iconic roles.

Speaker 1:Did you see Vin Diesel put out a cover of I Will Always Love You as a tribute to Dolly Parton? I'm not making that up. This isn't a troll. No, I didn't see that, Rory. We can get a little taste if you want. I don't know if we'll get flagged, but you know. Yeah, I mean, Vin is breathing. If I should stay Where would he be in the choir with you? Where would you place him? He's a baritone. Yeah. No, Ron, we didn't say stop. No, we did say stop. No, no, we got to keep... Just let that play in the background for the whole episode. Just... Lay it under the show.

Speaker 1:I want to hear him hit that.

Speaker 2:Nah.

Speaker 3:It's there.

Speaker 1:I listened to the whole thing. I want to hear that. Why would he do that? It was... For Cognac. What you mean, why would he do that? Cognac. I don't think Cognac will make a nigga do that. Yeah, it will.

Speaker 3:Ryan, bring me the hot soup pepper right now. Zip will cover Jolene right now. I'll show you how to do this shit right now. Bring the Cognac right now.

Speaker 1:What....

Speaker 2:The niggas be rich, he can do whatever they want. That's why he did it. Nigga, he's rich.

Speaker 1:Who are you? Fuck you mean? Who are you to say anything to him? He's rich.

Speaker 4:I just don't understand. We've never heard Vin Diesel sing before this, have we?

Speaker 1:I don't know. No, he's man on fire. Who was that? He does sing a lot? I've never heard Vin Diesel sing a lot.

Speaker 2:He's an Italian from Staten Island. You gotta be like patched into what he got going on.

Speaker 1:Okay, I'm not patched.

Speaker 2:You only know Dom. Remember when he was out of space? Remember when he was out of space and couldn't see? That nigga was getting biscuits.

Speaker 1:At the movie awards? I fuck with Vin Diesel. No, I fuck with Vin Diesel. I don't fuck with singing Vin Diesel. What was that, Man of Paul? But you don't even know singing Vin Diesel, so I didn't know yet. No, you're right. You're right. I mean, he not bad.

Speaker 6:That mic got some reverb on it.

Speaker 1:He not bad, though.

Speaker 3:Nah.

Speaker 1:Nah, that was the pain. He not bad. He get it off on some singers.

Speaker 6:He wasn't good, but he wasn't bad.

Speaker 1:That nigga was good and terrible, man. I think I could've did that. You know he can breakdance, too. Do it right now. No, I knew it. I think I knew it. I don't know the words. I think I did know that. I don't know the words. He is hip-hop. He's every element. You know that A & I will always love you. I can't hit that. I can't hit that note. I don't even play myself. When that part go on, I just be chilling. Wait, this is him singing Stay by Rihanna? Hit play on this? That might be crazier than I Will Always Love You. Yo, I love that people have hobbies and shit. All right, man.

Speaker 1:All right. Stop right there, Ryan. I don't like that we laughing right now. What are we without family? Stop right there. What's happening? I've never seen any of this. He lives his life a quarter mile at a time.

Speaker 2:This nigga's fast and furious, Paul.

Speaker 1:Is Vin Diesel going through something with y'all fucking right now?

Speaker 2:No.

Speaker 1:I've never seen him hit it. I play that shit, man. I want to hit that shit. That's old. This is old. Ryan, don't keep cutting it off because Maul said cut it off. We want a vibe. You don't feel this song the way me and Vin do. Turn into a Brit. Yeah. With the visual. He's talented. He is, man.

Speaker 2:Right?

Speaker 1:To a Brit. With the visual. He's talented. He is, man. He not that bad. They laughing. I'm not laughing. Demaris, you like that. If you like him, just say you like him.

Speaker 6:Why y'all got me defending biracials today?

Speaker 2:You jumping and defending all the biracials today. I know we don't got you doing anything.

Speaker 1:Is Vin biracial or is he just a white guy from Staten Island? No, Vin is biracial. But you not feeling that? No. You see how honest I was? No, I'm not. Not feeling that. I don't think. Haven't you been to like Vin Diesel's house? He didn't, he didn't do a quartet. No, he was literally just chilling. Oh, he don't know if he black. That's what I'm saying. He don't know if he black.

Speaker 6:He's his, his adopted. He don't know his biological father. His adopted father was African-American. His mother's English, German, German, Irish.

Speaker 1:And Scottish. His adopted dad did, I guess his.

Speaker 6:Mom's boyfriend was African-American.

Speaker 1:But his dad, Vin Diesel has black in him, bro. I know black when I see black. You saw that Puerto Rican, Cuban. I saw that younger picture of him.

Speaker 6:That boy got black in him And if your stepfather was black And your mama white it's a good chance Your real daddy was black.

Speaker 1:Right She got a type He just didn't know his real father Oh nah that's a mulatto man Yeah it's hair yeah That's a mulatto I went to school with a kid that looked just like that. I'm no mad at them niggas. Yeah.

Speaker 2:Word.

Speaker 1:Upstate New York, capital of them niggas.

Speaker 8:Yeah.

Speaker 1:That's where they all at. The most. Most mulatto?

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 1:It is. They just congregate up there.

Speaker 6:It's way more mulattos in fucking downstate New York in the city than it is upstate.

Speaker 1:They came from upstate. No, they ain't. Because what happens is all of the prisons are upstate. All of the prisons are upstate and then once they release a lot of the single white women. Nah, the white girls is just biting upstate.

Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1:When the prisoners come home. No, it ain't. The niggas get his hoods up north. The niggas ain't go to jail. A lot of them niggas was implants, though. They wasn't born and raised there. Yeah, they is. Y'all got upstate fly. Six generations of Buffalo niggas. I'm talking about the ones that have white baby moms. Buffalo niggas. Syracuse niggas. Rochester niggas. they have babies with.

Speaker 7:White girls bro that's the regular yeah upstate white women love black men for sure.

Speaker 2:At one point they was leading the nation in like interracial leading the nation leading the nation I'm dead ass in double doubles they was leading the nation in double doubles in like in like in like what they call like interracial.

Speaker 1:Yeah they had LeBron steps every Halloween she getting pregnant New York State what white girls be biting up here well rest in peace to Dolly Yes. Put your titties on the phone.

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 1:Arlena's cousin. Did he have a name in Menace? Or he was just Arlena's cousin? I think he introduced himself as. Yeah.

Speaker 4:We don't know what his name was. That's how he introduced himself.

Speaker 1:But damn, meningitis, damn, man. That's tough. Yeah, that's rough. Most iconic walk across a lawn. In movie history, in my opinion.

Speaker 4:Even though it says, in 1993, Crime John Menace Society, Sammy Moore Drew played the role of Eileen's cousin.

Speaker 1:Right. You don't know what his name is. Yeah, I don't name it now. Eileen's cousin. That's it. Hey, homie, your name Kane? Yeah. Check it out, partner. I'm Eileen's cousin. Yo, what's your name? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think you know me, man. Remember when he told Sharif that he fucked Eileen and Sharif got really upset?

Speaker 2:He's like, yeah, Kane's like, yeah, I fucked. Sharif was like, Sharif was my son. That nigga dead, Sharif. It's not right, okay?

Speaker 1:It's not right. It's not right, all right? I'm staying.

Speaker 2:I'm staying. That nigga dead, Sharif. We got to do that shit another time.

Speaker 1:No, the funny shit Sharif did in that movie was sit on top of the cooler where the beer was to try to defend it. Just kicking knowledge, yeah. With a hoodie on.

Speaker 4:Get your Salaam Ass off the cooler and pass me a book.

Speaker 1:Salaam Assalam. So that movie was hilarious. That movie was a classic. Like a classic.

Speaker 2:I remember being young, seeing Menace, and as soon as I finished watching it, I knew that was a classic.

Speaker 1:I want to watch this again. I was like, this movie was incredible. Because like, Boys in the Hood, to Eazy-E's credit, was like an after school special. It's a classic, but it's an after school. Nigga said I had to jimmy all extra tight.

Speaker 6:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:Imagine a girl calling you'd be like it ain't mine i know.

Speaker 2:It's not he said i had the jimmy on extra when you had it on extra loose right like what's that you put it on and you.

Speaker 1:Roll you cuff that shit like that you.

Speaker 2:Said i had it on like your pants on your shit like your top knot.

Speaker 9:In the side of your shit top knot in the side like a water balloon yeah yeah i dug it out of the jimmy extra tight That shit was hilarious.

Speaker 2:Niggas say, I had the Jimmy on extra tight.

Speaker 1:I felt him though. Fuck out of here. Word up. Fuck out of here. But nah, menace, menace, classic, classic. Rest in peace. Have you guys been keeping up with the Lil Durk trial at all? I've seen little clips online. Jamie the Bull?

Speaker 4:Anybody, you know, talking. I mean, from what I'm seeing... It just doesn't look bad. Close affiliate of Dirk's. He testified.

Speaker 1:He pointing fingers. Yeah. So, you know, whenever that happens. Now they got Brian. They got Brian still in there.

Speaker 4:You know, they trying to get Brian still to get another another one of our one another one of our guys from the culture home.

Speaker 1:He was a lawyer for Young Thug. I don't know, man.

Speaker 2:I feel like I feel like Dirk is giving Brian still money for no reason.

Speaker 1:Why you feel like that? Because whatever he about.

Speaker 2:To do, whatever Brian Steele is about to do, the public defender could have did that.

Speaker 4:You feel like there's no, there's nothing more that Brian Steele could do? You feel like Dirk's fate is signed, sealed, delivered?

Speaker 2:I feel like the way they talking, his mans in them pointing them fingers, you in videos talking about, I get in the jam, I do this with jam and all of that.

Speaker 1:And now jam is on the stand saying you the one. Right.

Speaker 2:I feel like If you owe Brian Steele and them other people any money, I ain't got that.

Speaker 1:What y'all going to do? You ain't coming? Bet. Should have saved his money and got Keefie D's Beach Boy attorney. Whoever the fuck he got, he's wasting that money.

Speaker 2:In my opinion, I'm saying, I never heard a nigga beat a fed case like this severe. I heard niggas beat the feds before. You know, niggas never beat the feds. I watch niggas beat gun cases in the feds a lot.

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 2:But I never heard a nigga beat this kind of case. He's reportedly paying $ 100, 000 a day for his legal case.

Speaker 1:Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2:Give me that shit. Help me out, nigga. Send me the fuck out of here. Tell them niggas to take a day off. You don't need them. You don't need them, niggas.

Speaker 8:Yeah.

Speaker 1:I'm telling you. Tell them to take a day off. Give me that shit, bruh. Word up. Who was the witness in the third case who was hilarious? Who, Lil Woody? Yeah. Why so, Woody?

Speaker 7:Why so, Woody? When they said, why are you shrugging? Because they my shoulders. He was a witness, but he turned that shit into a circus. So there was hope. There's not really hope in this one.

Speaker 2:My honest opinion about Young Doug and them niggas situation down there?

Speaker 1:That shit was a Tyler Perry movie.

Speaker 7:No, it was the funniest case. Fuck that. That shit was a Tyler Perry comedy.

Speaker 2:Nothing happened to nobody in that shit, I feel like. Tyler Perry movie, man. There's still some people locked.

Speaker 1:Up for that though, no?

Speaker 2:Yeah, but if I just feel like the first judge, the black dude, and then they switched the judges and then all of this shit going, that shit was a movie.

Speaker 4:Tyler Perry needed to get on his job. It turned into a circus.

Speaker 1:It was a complete circus.

Speaker 7:Whereas this, from what I, because there's no cameras the way there was with the thug trial. This appears like they have three women. Straight up saying everything. Because I'm saying it's the state of Georgia versus Young Thug and them niggas, right? This is the United States of America.

Speaker 1:Yeah. This is the whole collective. Yeah. Nebraska niggas, the Idaho, everybody. All of them against you now. We the people.

Speaker 2:We the people from the United States of America. Fuck the people. The United States of America.

Speaker 1:Yeah. It's a difference, bro. Yeah. No, I should have, I mean. I think he done, bro. He facing life, right? If he found guilty, right? Hell yeah. Hell yeah, man. Murder for hires in the feds. That shit might be a death penalty.

Speaker 2:I don't think it's a death penalty case, but they might have fried you in the feds for that type of shit still.

Speaker 1:Yes.

Speaker 2:Feds still got the death penalty. Service states still got it. I know New York State don't got it. But the feds still got the death penalty, man. But what is it, though, Zip, that.

Speaker 4:Because I just feel like we're seeing too many guys that are doing well for themselves, making a lot of money, that are... going through these, not this type of case, but have to stand before judges and things like that, like coming out of the culture. And it's like, these guys are making a lot of them. Obviously you could afford a hundred K a day for your legal team.

Speaker 1:That means you're making a lot of money. So, but what is it that obviously, I don't know.

Speaker 4:What is it in our culture that we obviously missed or doing wrong to where guys like this are still running into.

Speaker 1:Situations like this? They laughed at Nas. What do you mean? You witnessed it from your folks' past, scribbled it in your notepad. They laughed at Nas.

Speaker 2:They told niggas, y'all niggas need some street credibility. You laughed at the niggas that ain't having nothing and forced the niggas from the streets.

Speaker 1:Like, oh, you need some type of street credibility. Okay, so this is what the fuck you're going to get.

Speaker 2:The niggas with the street credit, the niggas in the streets that can rap when they get in the music industry, don't worry.

Speaker 1:They'll be in jail soon. That's what they asked for in the music industry.

Speaker 2:I swear to God, when the little niggas that ain't never do nothing was rapping, it was whatever, then it was, y'all.

Speaker 1:Niggas ain't really from the streets.

Speaker 2:Right. We started getting niggas like beans in them niggas that was really from the streets. And so you had to be like these kind of niggas, 50 cent type niggas. You had to be from the streets. And so this is the shit that go on in the streets.

Speaker 4:Yeah, but it's just, I mean, you know, for somebody that's having, has the success as Dirk and, you know, to end up in a situation like this, there's something that we're doing wrong. There's something in the culture that's severely off. Because once you are in a position that's dirt and become the cash cow and is able to take care of your family and friends and, you know, employ others, you should not be running into a situation like this. You should be completely out of the way, completely focused on, you know, living a life of being an artist and doing what you're doing and not facing life in prison.

Speaker 2:Some of these niggas is hustling so the gang niggas could be better off.

Speaker 1:It's not.

Speaker 2:You see, you thinking from your mind state. You've never been in a gang. This is not what you went to. You thinking, once I get this money, I'm just taking care of my family. You're not thinking like these niggas that be killing people. Them mans and them niggas is getting killed. I got a little bit of money now. My main objective is to kill all of these niggas.

Speaker 1:Over there now. You talking about taking care of my family. They're going to be all right. We got some money put aside.

Speaker 2:But my main objective right now is to kill all of them niggas.

Speaker 1:That's what they on.

Speaker 2:It's like, I don't know. I can't be like, oh, yo, it's all right. That's some sad shit, but that's the reality of this shit. I think these niggas is getting all of this money to get away from that shit when that's not the case. These niggas is getting as much money as they can to hurt them niggas that hurt them.

Speaker 1:Before, bro. Yeah, but when is it? So at that point. This is when it stopped, nigga. You mean when it stopped? But it's not going to stop here.

Speaker 2:Right.

Speaker 1:For them, it stops here.

Speaker 2:Right.

Speaker 1:But then there'll be another one. Then there'll be another one. Then there'll be another one.

Speaker 7:Well, unfortunately, this isn't even part of that Chicago cycle. This is honestly started from rap.

Speaker 1:This is rap shit.

Speaker 7:I could have a bit more understanding of, and again, I'm not going to pretend like I know about the old block 63. I'm never going to pretend like I know about that shit, but that I would have a bit more understanding of, of they grew up in that environment.

Speaker 1:This is rap. This came from Quando Rondo, who is from Georgia and then from Chicago. This is rap shit.

Speaker 7:That's what makes this the cornier part of the entire thing. And I'm not going to pretend like I know what it's like to be in that situation. And I'm not even here to judge anyone on it. But I'm saying I can totally understand Chicago gang shit before I can understand some rap shit. But that is now people is facing fed charges and the people you took care of are now ratting on you.

Speaker 1:Like to me, this is this is so corny and so unnecessary.

Speaker 7:That's the only murder he fight fighting. Now his friends are giving up every murder. His brother murder and all of that.

Speaker 2:Right.

Speaker 1:Yeah.

Speaker 7:But that's what I'm saying. I started with with the Quando Rondo. Like, you know, the whole thing that happened with Vaughn. But now his mans and them that he took care of while they were in prison and then when they got out are now flipping on him and giving every murder ever that happened in Chicago and everywhere else.

Speaker 1:Yo, bro, you heard what Academics was asking him certain questions? I never heard that.

Speaker 2:He was giving them smug remarks and all of that.

Speaker 1:Oh, they can't say sly for wrong no more. That's the clip I saw. I saw that clip. I didn't see.

Speaker 2:The whole interview. So when I was growing up, niggas used to rap about the street shit, right? But you could almost listen and tell. Like, they capping. You just rapping, nigga. You might be in the streets doing something, but you ain't telling us what you in the streets doing. It sounds to me like if you listen to these niggas' songs, they'll tell you what the fuck is going on in the hood. And y'all niggas is leaving room for these prosecutors to get y'all niggas in these courtrooms and prosecute y'all because of the shit y'all niggas is saying in interviews and in songs. That shit is like asinine to me, you heard? I don't understand that shit.

Speaker 1:But Zip, somebody like you, right? You from that, for real.

Speaker 4:If you happen to get in a position now where you making 10.

Speaker 1:15, 20 million dollars, right? Something happens in the hood. Niggas got to call the police. Don't call me. Fuck out of here. I already did my 20. I ain't do 20 before? I'm talking about, yeah, if you didn't do 20 before.

Speaker 2:I ain't do 20 before, you never know.

Speaker 1:You understand what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. You never know, homie. Like, niggas don't be knowing that shit is real, homie, until it's real. I mean, I get that. And I understand that. You got to think about it like this, too. Them niggas ain't have nothing.

Speaker 3:Right.

Speaker 1:Nigga got 40, 50 million now.

Speaker 2:Yeah. Nigga might feel like can't nothing happen. That God complex shit is real. Niggas be feeling like, I do what the fuck I want.

Speaker 1:Got all this money.

Speaker 2:Yeah, nigga, I just went and took a million dollars out, nigga. We passing this money around. This shit going to be, niggas ain't going to never know it was me. Yes, they is going to know it was you, nigga. This nigga's going to tell.

Speaker 1:Right.

Speaker 2:You in the video with this nigga, you don't know he's staying. That's the shit about the gang shit to me, you heard? Like, If you in the gang and you tough, I would leave the gang alone, bro. Because that nigga's going to tell on you. Right. All he know how to do is roll up weed. He roll up weed, he know how much grabber to put in there, whatever. He don't mind running to the liquor store whenever. He a fly nigga. He get all the bitches. He don't kill people when it's time to go kill people. When they lock y'all up, they going to lock him up like he was going on them drills with y'all.

Speaker 1:He tell him.

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Speaker 4:Based on average annual single line payment of AT & T, Verizon, and T-Mobile, Customers compared to 12 months on the Boost Mobile unlimited plan as of January 2026. For full offer details, visit BoostMobile.com. I think I think when that whole thing happened with Treyway, I think that when Shadi said what he said, I think I think I can't remember exactly what he said, but I think at the time I remember saying I respect Shadi because he said something to the extent of I'm not even mad at Shadi. because he's not no like that's my fault I made him privy to shit that he shouldn't even been privy.

Speaker 2:To yeah that's a nigga trying to cope that's a nigga trying to cope with that shit.

Speaker 7:That's what I'm saying take accountability that's accountability I did.

Speaker 2:The dumb shit he don't really mean that because if you put if they put the nigga in a cell with a nigga that mean you ain't gonna beat him up.

Speaker 4:Wait why can't two things be true though yeah I think two things yeah two things can be true there I think you still want to beat a nigga up but then you be like you know what but that's my fault like that was my fault Like, I should have never.

Speaker 1:Had him around then. Oh, I get that. You know what I'm saying? But you could still, if you got the opportunity.

Speaker 2:But all that forgive shorty shit.

Speaker 1:I don't think it was forgive. I don't think he said forgive. I think he was just like, yo. I think he was like, I can't be mad at him. Like, yeah, I can't be mad at him. Yeah, niggas do that shit all the time.

Speaker 2:They say that shit, yo, don't say nothing on the phone that you don't want to hear played back in the courtroom.

Speaker 1:Right. Niggas still say shit on the phone, bro. Like, yo, my nigga. The fuck, nigga? Oh, I'm going to call you back FaceTime. No. I don't want to talk about that. We used to joke about that years ago. Remember when criminals thought FaceTime audio?

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 4:My man had this thing he used to put on the camera and make it look like the phone is cracked so you can't see none. I used to blame your family. I don't want to talk about none of this. I'm not in none of that. I don't care about none of that.

Speaker 1:I don't want to hear about none of that. I don't care. Yeah, I don't care about that. All right. So that's what I don't understand.

Speaker 7:Even with the KVD trial, there's All right, whatever his testimony, they're pulling up jail calls that are recent.

Speaker 1:Like he's talking to his people at home. Why don't you realize this is, you're in jail. Son of a jail niggas don't be giving a fuck, bro.

Speaker 7:I just don't, that part I don't understand. How you not know you're being recorded on a jail phone?

Speaker 1:They tell you you're being recorded before you start talking. They tell you. They interrupt your conversation.

Speaker 2:Nah not in the state they tell you but they tell you like this is called the subject of recording and monitoring it will be turned over to the peoples if we you know what I'm saying nigga will get right on the phone like yo bro.

Speaker 1:Nigga got some weed in me I'm talking about some weed what nigga I ain't got it bro I don't.

Speaker 2:Got it bro yeah yeah I'll holler at you later yeah.

Speaker 1:The fuck nigga they don't care.

Speaker 4:Either way man um to your point Zip yes it's not looking good for Dirk man but you know continue prayers to him and the road that lies ahead for him, man, because it's not going to be easy, but, you know, you don't never want to see, you know, guys that had the opportunity that he has throw it all away and then, you know, it's just unfortunate, man.

Speaker 1:It's a sad case all the way around, man.

Speaker 2:But what, like, what about these dudes with these corny narratives talking about, oh, yo, Dirk is trying to blame it on another nigga and I, like, like, dudes are so stupid, like, Like, trap Lord Ross. You know what I'm saying? Other people posting that. Yo, if you don't can't stand it, he, yo, tell on somebody.

Speaker 1:Like, what, nigga? He's not telling on nobody. Yeah.

Speaker 2:A nigga has confessed and said he did everything. He didn't say he did everything and Dirk paid him to do it. What the fuck is Dirk supposed to say?

Speaker 1:He didn't do that. This nigga said he did it. So what they supposed to say? He didn't do that.

Speaker 2:No.

Speaker 1:Maybe he did do that. that shit. He said he did it. All right, he did it. But we ain't pay that nigga to do shit. Right.

Speaker 2:That's how you fight a case. He said he did that. It ain't like niggas just came out the blue and was like, you know what?

Speaker 1:We gonna blame.

Speaker 2:But is he saying that he did it on purpose? I guess it was opening arguments. The lawyer said, but Dirk don't have a deal, bro. Dirk is not in cahoots with the government. Right.

Speaker 1:He's not telling on nobody, bro.

Speaker 2:You niggas that is in cahoots with the government is telling on a nigga. Right. And if you say, yo, I got the rent of cars.

Speaker 1:I'm the one that did this. I booked the flights. I did all of this. All right, bitch. You heard him say he did that? Yeah. Maybe he not lying. But he said, I'm doing it. He lying about that.

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 1:What the fuck?

Speaker 7:And this is why, and then Trappler Ross guy, like, he's like, oh, I never called him a snitch. I'm like, yo, you literally painted it as that was what. He blaming it on somebody. You basically made it seem like Dirk was the one that was sitting up there like, nah, he did it.

Speaker 1:I didn't do it.

Speaker 7:No, that guy's working with the government and admitted to everything that he did.

Speaker 1:My defense is saying, all right, but I didn't have shit to do with it.

Speaker 4:So according to, uh, I guess his name is Jam. His testimony, Dirk was angry about King Vaughn's death and wanted Kwando Rondo and or Lil Tim killed. Jam described in a conversation with Dirk allegedly communicated that if they caught Kwando or Lil Tim, they would be taken care of financially.

Speaker 1:Then people from the crew were sent to California.

Speaker 4:Jam said the group traveled from Chicago to the West Coast, got transportation, obtained clothing, disguises.

Speaker 1:Obtained guns.

Speaker 4:Initially planned to ambush Kondo at a hotel. Abandoned the first attempt because there was too much police activity. Later carried out the attack that killed Lil Pab. Pab, yeah, which is Kondo's cousin. And Jam says he personally participated in the shooting.

Speaker 3:So.

Speaker 1:Yeah.

Speaker 7:Dirk's defense is like, all right, cool. You said you did all that, but we ain't got none. That's not snitching.

Speaker 3:That's.

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 9:If you say you did that.

Speaker 1:OK. I bet you did. But I pay you to do it.

Speaker 2:Right.

Speaker 1:So.

Speaker 4:So Dirk's lawyers are saying Jam isn't some random innocent eyewitness. He's a guy who pleaded guilty himself and he's testifying for the government.

Speaker 1:That's extremely important.

Speaker 4:Dirk's defense can basically tell the jury you're supposed to believe this guy who admitted participating in a murder after the government gave him a deal. That's exactly why cross-examination is going to matter so much. The defense has already been attacking the government's corroborating witnesses and questions things like how their interviews were conducted and how often those conversations were actually recorded.

Speaker 1:Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2:Defense got a fate. Defense got a fate. Watch what they ask the nigga. Because when the nigga's on a trash call opening the door, so if the defense, like say the prosecutor's already asked the nigga a certain question, that's it.

Speaker 1:They can't really say shit else. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:But if the defense get up there and bring up certain shit that the prosecutor ain't never bring up, oh, redirect. Now the door open. Now this nigga talking about all kind of other shit. Him and Dirk and them niggas might have... So the niggas got to be easy. How you deal with these kind of rat bastard ass niggas and all of that. That shit is fucked up.

Speaker 1:He was wearing a wire too, wasn't he? I don't know. I don't know about that.

Speaker 2:I'm saying calling him Jammy the Bull is a good name. He say he was killing people and he telling on people. Jammy the Bull, that's a good name.

Speaker 7:And they went through everything that Dirk did for him. That shit makes it even crazier. He was in jail for like 10 years. And Dirk kept him paid. The moment he came out, Dirk was like, yo.

Speaker 1:We got you. Dirk did so much for this kid.

Speaker 4:Yeah, but that's how it always go though, man. You can do everything for somebody and there still ain't enough. You can't buy loyalty, man. You can't buy loyalty. That just got to be in you. That just got to be how you design with your moral compass lies. Like, you can give a nigga $ 100 million and he'll turn on you.

Speaker 1:And you know what's crazy about this?

Speaker 7:Before, like, and again, just from citizen outside looking in, you just have to go to witness protection and live a boring fucking life and just go live with what you did.

Speaker 1:He'll probably get a podcast deal. For sure. Jammy the Bull? Merch and all that. Yeah. Merch and all that. No, dead ass. Yeah, merch.

Speaker 7:And all the people in the comments will be like, well, I would have done the same thing. And then if somebody like me who's just a civilian would be like, that's fucked up. They'd be like, oh, you never did no street shit. You do the same thing in this situation. Like, he will be celebrated. Like, this is celebrated now.

Speaker 4:A lot of you dudes with platforms gonna have him up there, gonna book him for an interview.

Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. It's like it's no anything goes. You can do whatever you want. There are no penalties anymore.

Speaker 7:And I just I also don't understand that perspective, too. No, I would never be in a situation where this could happen because I don't commit crimes and I never have. And I've never been part of that life. But I can also observe somebody selling out their friends and going, that's wrong.

Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely. Like, why can't, as a civilian, I be like, no, that's fucked up. Absolutely. I'm saying dishonor is dishonor. Like, dishonor is dishonor.

Speaker 2:That same motherfucker that told on his man in the streets. he would have been in charge of the treasury and the net, whatever. And I'm saying they fucked the money around for the community. Like, he's a dishonorable motherfucker regardless if they was in the streets or not. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:That's just who he is.

Speaker 7:He did something. He signed up for something and then went against what he said he would do. Put that in any other place outside of criminal, you'd still be like, yo, what's wrong with that guy?

Speaker 2:He told, he got on the stand and told that jury that he took place in homicide, like three murders, they say. He said he talked about three murders That he took part in. So I'm saying, you didn't do the worst shit you could possibly do on this earth.

Speaker 1:A few times. You didn't do that shit a few times.

Speaker 2:And now, we supposed to believe that you this honorable person, you doing this shit out of the Yeah. No, you be like, jurors be on some bitches. That's what I be keep saying about the internet though. The internet is where the nerds is at. You heard Roy, he was like, yo, you check the comments, there's people, you're going to get a podcast because it's the internet.

Speaker 1:This is the revenge of the nerds. The streets. He ain't going to be able to go get his hair cut in Chicago.

Speaker 2:He ain't gonna be able to do that he ain't gonna be able to pull up to the weed spot in Chicago you understand what I'm.

Speaker 1:Saying he'll have a basement with neon signs.

Speaker 2:And lights on the internet he's gonna be good on the internet where the nerds is in power this is the most diversity of nerds is on the internet they invented this shit you know what I'm saying He's going to be good on the internet, but in the street, he's not going to be good.

Speaker 1:Yeah, no, he definitely can't be in Chicago.

Speaker 2:I don't care how many niggas you put down, you still not going to be good.

Speaker 1:No. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:You put them niggas down at work, you're not even tough, really. So what you did there? You did that with the... I'm about to get out of jail free. If I had that, if I had that, if that was the option I could tell on somebody, I would have been one of the worst niggas New York City ever saw.

Speaker 8:And you'd be mad when they say your ass needs to go back to jail. I don't need to go back there. I ain't doing crime, so they can suck my dick saying that. But what I'm saying is, if I could snitch, if I could have had the opportunity to snitch on.

Speaker 1:Somebody before, like if I knew in my mind, if I ever get caught for this shit, I'm snitching on somebody. Oh my God. I'm just kidding. What? I did all this shit with them. Like, oh, they catch a little black ass. You want to jail me. You might be there for a very long time. I'm going to sit up.

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 1:I'm doing this shit anyway. Right. Right. That's how I was.

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 1:If I knew I could, I could go home.

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 1:I could cash that in. A brazen. It would have been a brazen act. What? I would have had a list. Yeah, shiny face and all of that. Face mask shiny. What the fuck you talking about?

Speaker 2:I woke up and took care of all of my business this morning before.

Speaker 1:I did this. What? Right before I snitched, I have a few things I want to get done. Face mask shiny. Damn, man. No mask. Right.

Speaker 3:Right?

Speaker 1:This shit go down, nigga.

Speaker 2:Yo, he did that. I don't respect none of them. They be like, yo, man, he ratty, but he still put work. He only did that shit because he knew he was going to tell.

Speaker 7:That's always the funniest shit of when you see the rats that now have YouTube pages like, I wanted to change my life. No, you want to change your life the day you got arrested and ratted. You would have never changed your life if you didn't get caught. You would have still been putting people down. You would have still been doing that.

Speaker 2:As soon as you got locked up and they took you away from that pussy, they don't want to tell, bro.

Speaker 1:They don't want to leave that pussy, bro. That's my biggest fear of jail is not just how scary it could be. There's no pussy. Yeah, that's how they don't want to leave that pussy.

Speaker 4:How long do you think, realistically, your girl going to hold you down if you got to go do a bid?

Speaker 1:How long is the bid?

Speaker 4:What do you mean hold it down? She's not going to sleep with nobody else.

Speaker 1:You were looking for that.

Speaker 2:You were looking for the wrong thing. You shooting at the wrong basket, homie. You want her to not do that? Wait, I'm just saying. You remember how she used to do that to you?

Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. You think she don't like doing that? You think she did it because of you?

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 1:Huh? You think she did that because of you? No, she liked that shit, nigga. Fuck, she about to just stop? Yeah. Hold it down. You asking for the money? No, I'm just saying. You better ask for some money. You better ask for $ 200 a month, nigga. Fuck you talking about. That's holding it down.

Speaker 2:Fuck you being $ 200 a month, package, all of that. That's holding it down. Don't sleep with nobody. Realistically, when you went in and you had a girl, how long do you feel like, nah, she definitely seen somebody else? When did you just accept that?

Speaker 1:We fuck too much. We fucking every day. And now you just don't. Yeah. I mean, I felt that way without going to jail with exes. They got the guns right here. You ain't doing nothing. It's like, all right. All these niggas out here?

Speaker 7:No, I've thought, without going to jail, without an ex that fucks that much, like, she's going to stop fucking because we not fucking?

Speaker 2:That's when the bitch dip on you when she be holding it down don't be fucking nobody.

Speaker 1:Soon as she fuck somebody you're.

Speaker 2:Done she out you shouldn't even been on that with.

Speaker 4:Her I gotta ask my man how long before his girl dipped out on him.

Speaker 7:How long y'all holding it down if she go to jail she go to jail cause I look at it that way if my girl go to jail it's like wait you made that decision I mean my.

Speaker 1:Girl go to jail how long I'm holding it down Nah, I'm going to stop you. I'd be papoose on him. She got a 10 piece. 10 years? Jesus Christ. She got to do eight and a half off of that. Nah. She got a 10 ball. You lost me at the half. 85%. I'll go see her. 85% is eight and a half. She going to be the queen of the commissary. Yeah, I will hold her down. Commissary. Her commissary. What you mean hold her down? Commissary, visits, call her every day. I'm out here. You see what I'm trying to tell you? Right, right.

Speaker 1:What you holding it down mean?

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 1:Holding it down don't mean not giving a nigga no pussy. Right.

Speaker 2:You better give a nigga some of that. Just don't tell me about it. I mean, you better give a nigga some of that shit. But do you face it? Do you know when you install it?

Speaker 1:You better. Okay. You better.

Speaker 2:Nigga, shit get real. And tell you in a minute, yo, Jody got your bitch, nigga. Jody got your bitch, Javi. That's what they call that nigga, Jody.

Speaker 1:Is that some military shit? That's jail shit too? Yeah, Jody got that bitch. Oh my God. Niggas be arguing on the phone and all that. Niggas be in the day room like... 11 o'clock, nigga. You can't make no more calls, nigga. Yeah, it's over.

Speaker 2:Cock blocking, nigga. What the fuck is you doing? That's what you doing right now. Yelling, yo, where you going? What the fuck you mean, where she going?

Speaker 1:Where you going? Wherever she going. Wherever she going. Yeah. And you can't do nothing about that. Dumbass nigga. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5:She made us look at you like a bozo. You come out the, nigga, come out the phone booth and niggas be like. Your whole little aura. All that shit is gone. You holding a phone like this, talking all crazy. Niggas be looking at it and coming.

Speaker 1:Out the phone like. I don't even give a fuck about that bitch. Yeah, I heard you. Oh, man. Jail is crazy, my nigga. You hear me? Jail is crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 2:The streets is crazy. I be seeing niggas arguing in the streets with bitches on the phone.

Speaker 1:Yeah.

Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's a little different because you can actually go pull up and see it. Arguing with your girl on the phone in.

Speaker 1:Jail is crazy to me. It's worse. Yeah, that's crazy to me. But you arguing with a bitch on the phone in the streets? I think arguing in the streets is crazy. Oh, yeah, I'm not doing it. I don't do that. Bitches are hundreds of billions of bitches out there. You free and you just go. You arguing with her? She don't want to tell you where she at. You arguing with her? Yeah, I understand arguing in jail. At least the nigga in jail, he need that.

Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:He needs that. Yeah. That's the only ear to civilization. He got 20.

Speaker 2:He need that. The nigga out here arguing? Niggas out here be fighting.

Speaker 1:I definitely don't understand that. Nigga's a fight. She like another nigga. That's some funny shit. Did y'all see the Hit-Boy? Hit-Boy did an interview with Vlad and Elliot. Yeah. The double team. What they call it? I don't know. That's like in URL when it's like two of them on stage. The two of them. It was Hit-Boy versus Dump 2. There's no disrespect to DNA and K-Sean, but remember when they did the double team shit to all the NFL execs? When they wrapped his NFL teams in the boardroom? I don't remember that. I'm glad you don't. Yeah, I don't remember that one.

Speaker 4:But Hit-Boy, this interview was shocking to me to hear that with him and Nas staying. In the interview, he said that he and Nas hasn't spoken In three years.

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 4:And doesn't see them working together again in the future. Obviously, they had six albums together. He said he didn't speak to Nas in three years. We did six albums, 80 songs in three years, produced every single song on his album that won a Grammy.

Speaker 1:Nas has won an only Grammy, I think, right? Correct? From my understanding, yes.

Speaker 8:Right?

Speaker 1:Yeah. We did a lot of great work. Which is fucking crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4:We did a lot of great work, but I don't see us working again. There's a lot of reasons, you know what I mean? But it's something I don't really want to dig too deep in because it's pretty deep.

Speaker 7:Before we get to that, did you guys see the video on Twitter of the guy that had to put the interview in fast forward between Vlad and Elliot? And no disrespect to them because I'm not saying I'm the greatest interviewer. But Hit-Boy dropped that bombshell. And then Elliot and Vlad just started talking about themselves and their opinions about Nas and their relationship with Nas and beat picking. And Hit-Boy's sitting there for an hour. It was like, well, yeah, I'm never speaking to him again. And they was like, oh shit, you did mention that.

Speaker 1:You know I'm the one that came up with this. He doesn't have good beats.

Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7:Like it was the wildest. And listen, I'm not sitting here like I'm the greatest interviewer. And I love Elliot. And I mean, Vlad is great at his job. But that was the funniest video I've seen on the internet in quite some time. Hitboy dropped one of the craziest interview lines that we have heard in a whole year. And Vlad and Elliot went on to talk about themselves.

Speaker 4:Yeah, that's that's first of all, that's just wild. But that Hitboy saying that, that that threw me off. I was not expecting to hear that. Yeah, Hitboy, that he hasn't spoken to Nas in three years.

Speaker 1:I get it, though. Money or a bitch? Nah. You know what I think?

Speaker 4:I think Nas probably didn't want to sign that to give Hitboy any of that publishing.

Speaker 1:Not Pub. I think it was the Pops.

Speaker 7:I think, of course, Hit-Boy is going to get Pub because he's producing 50. I think Hit-Boy probably went into that thinking it was 50-50 on everything, on the Masters as well.

Speaker 3:Right.

Speaker 7:I know it wasn't, like, it is a Nas album. If you go on streaming, it's just not Nas and Hit-Boy.

Speaker 2:Right.

Speaker 7:But I think Hit-Boy probably thought, us going into this series of three albums plus this other three, this is a partnership that we have and Nas doesn't have to answer to anyone.

Speaker 1:It's not some major label shit.

Speaker 7:I think Hit probably went into that Thinking this was 50-50 on Masters, too.

Speaker 1:All the way around, yeah. That's just my guess. I have no fucking idea. No, that's a great guess. I believe that.

Speaker 4:When I say pub, I'm not thinking, obviously, he's going to get his pub because he produced the song. But I'm talking from everything. You know what I'm saying? That was shocking to hear. I'm not going to lie. That threw me off. I was like, damn. And then not to speak in three years? You do 80 songs with somebody.

Speaker 1:Yeah.

Speaker 2:And, you know, one of the most iconic, legendary MCs that we've ever had. Who, from what we know, obviously we're not privy to his business, but he seems like his business acumen is intact.

Speaker 1:Nas.

Speaker 7:Nas is probably one of the greatest businessmen in hip hop ever.

Speaker 2:Right.

Speaker 4:So knowing all of those things that we know, never heard any negative stories about Nas when it comes to business and things like that.

Speaker 1:Yeah.

Speaker 2:So to hear Hit-Boy say this and then say we haven't spoken in three years, yeah, that was shocking. I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1:That threw me off. Not me, though. Why? Because, like, besides Jungle, like.

Speaker 2:Niggas don't really hear about niggas' knives used to be fucking with like that.

Speaker 6:What you mean?

Speaker 1:That. That's plain as a motherfucker. Where's horse?

Speaker 2:Yeah. Where's Nayshawn? Where's Nayshawn? Core Mega.

Speaker 1:Foxy.

Speaker 7:Core Mega was on one of the projects with... Core Mega and Nas have a great relationship now. Shout out to Mega.

Speaker 2:Now, but for 20 years, they didn't have a good relationship. Yeah, but I think both of them have had... Yeah, but they also didn't produce 80 songs with Nas. Right, but I'm saying, but they was around, though. Like, you produce 80 songs with a nigga, but you might not have been around a nigga more. You could have been sending these niggas these songs.

Speaker 4:Yeah, but if I produce six albums with you, and get you your first Grammy, I would think that we would probably speak pretty often.

Speaker 2:But it just seems to me like Nas don't got a lot of long-standing relationships.

Speaker 1:No, I get what you're saying. But we don't know that because we don't really know... All right, yeah.

Speaker 7:Nayshawn, which I think is his cousin to begin with, but we don't know those... like that because we don't know Nas like that.

Speaker 1:We don't know this one like that.

Speaker 2:We just saying, I just know track record says that Nas doesn't have a lot of longstanding relationships.

Speaker 1:I get what you're saying. I hear you. But I do want to give some pushback there that we don't really... He could have that in his real friendships, not what he puts with the Bravehearts. Because the Bravehearts could be business, even though he grew up with them. Horse from Queensbridge. That's not business. I know it's not, but at the same time... We don't know how close they were. Oh, right.

Speaker 7:Horse could have been a rapper. That was great in my neighborhood. But he wasn't really like my closest friend.

Speaker 1:I get what you're saying. But we put him on Bravehearts. But it started as a personal relationship. For sure.

Speaker 7:But Nas could still have his closest friend. I mean, we do know his closest friend passed. But, you know, we don't know that about Nas. And I think, again, speculating, which is unfair, but.

Speaker 1:We're on a podcast.

Speaker 7:Hip-Boy didn't have his business intact, which he made very clear. Hov cleaned that up for him, which was amazing to see.

Speaker 1:But that was on the pub side. I don't know.

Speaker 7:They probably waited till all six of these albums were done before they even really talked business. Because there was no major, I think they was like, let's just cook up. Which plenty of artists have done that.

Speaker 1:That happened to us. in that caliber. Like, bro, we'll figure it out. Like, let's just make good music right now. And we'll have our people figure this shit out.

Speaker 4:Especially, Rory, when you're somebody like a hit boy who is probably just honored to be in an audition where you work with Nas so closely and getting all these songs done. you definitely don't stop that momentum and say, yo, can we get the business straight though?

Speaker 1:Yeah. On this, can we make sure we get these things agreed upon? Like, you don't stop it. You're just assuming that.

Speaker 4:You're just assuming that, yo, this is Nas, bro. We're going to figure all of that shit out on the back end. We're going to get it right. Regardless, like you said, Roy, I'm going to get, I'm producing all the songs. I'm going to get paid.

Speaker 2:But like, you know, I could see how that, to Rory's point, the momentum just started.

Speaker 1:They started laying joints down.

Speaker 4:And then when it was time to get the business right, you know, maybe Nas was like, nah, homie, I'm not giving you off the masters and all.

Speaker 1:These were Nas albums. Yeah.

Speaker 4:Producers don't get the masters off them.

Speaker 1:Right.

Speaker 4:So, you know, I think to Rory's point, because obviously Hit-Boy has had things in the past where the business wasn't necessarily right on, you know, the work that he was doing. And I could see this being another case where it was just like, man, I'm not going to stop Working with Nas to say, hey, let's get the business in order.

Speaker 2:What if he was trying to get Nas to work with his father? And Nas wasn't jacking.

Speaker 1:That like Nas. Was Big Hit on any of those? I think I heard Nas and Big Hit on some.

Speaker 4:Game and Big Hit have a whole album together.

Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure. But there's a lot of photos of Big Hit and Nas. But I don't think that would sever anything. But I could also just seeing it.

Speaker 7:Be a problem as well of purposely not talking about business until Hit got his shit together like don't even register none of this shit from me because I don't want it to be registered to the publishing company that's fucking everything up for me right now which I know plenty of artists that's like let's register this in a year and then maybe once he got it clear Nas was like bro this is what it is that's where I think but also we've talked about this plenty of times I've had groups of friends that once something we was working on was done, we don't really have, we was friends during that time. Like it was genuine. That was my friend, but we don't really have much in common.

Speaker 7:And once that thing is over, I don't really have much to hit you about every day. Not like on some fake shit. It's just, we no longer, that part is done. You ever had a job before?

Speaker 1:Yeah. What you did? For real? I worked in a hospital. You still in contact with the hospital? No. But that's different though.

Speaker 2:Why?

Speaker 4:They paid your bills. They paid your bills. They fed you. I didn't make history with them niggas.

Speaker 1:You saved lives though.

Speaker 2:Yeah, they fed me, but I didn't make history with them niggas. These niggas made history together. He got Nas' first Grammy. Zip, you gonna talk to us? If we all stop working together, you gonna still talk to us?

Speaker 4:Yeah, I fucks with niggas. Yeah, but this nigga, he got his first, Nas' first Grammy came from a hit boy producer.

Speaker 2:But what that mean? I got to call you every day? I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying to say we haven't spoken in three years. That's the part that surprised me. No, that wasn't the part that surprised me. He said Nas don't answer, right?

Speaker 1:He said we'll probably never work again. We ain't spoken three years means nothing to me. He said Nas don't answer? Nah, if I get you your first Grammy. We'll never work again is what meant the most to me.

Speaker 2:If we produce, if I produce six albums with you and one of those albums get you, you're already a legacy act. Legend in every sense of the word. And one of those albums I produce for you, get you your first Grammy. I'm not, we don't got to speak every day. We ain't attached to that. I'm not saying that.

Speaker 1:Every January 26th when the Grammys comes around?

Speaker 2:One of us is supposed to. That shit is gay, Mo. You want some gay shit?

Speaker 1:How? We supposed to be talking because we made an album and got a Grammy? We made his album.

Speaker 2:Shit is over.

Speaker 1:We ain't making no more.

Speaker 7:I can guarantee you that thousands of artists that may have Grammys that haven't spoken in 20 years.

Speaker 1:Right. 50 years. Right. To who? To the person they had a Grammy with. How long Laura Hill and what's her name ain't speak to each other?

Speaker 7:I mean, they doing a tour now, but they didn't speak for fucking because they need to do business together now. And to me, that's whatever. We did great work together, but I don't see us working again. There's a lot of reasons.

Speaker 1:You know what I mean? But it's something I don't really want to dig too deep in because it gets pretty deep. That's the important part. We ain't spoken three years means nothing to me. That last part is what means the most. You think Nas stingy? No, I think Nas is a businessman and some people could probably take that as stingy. Most businessmen are stingy. That's why they so successful. It's the same thing when people was killing Jay and I said, I'm not here to defend Jay.

Speaker 1:Business is business. He's bidding for a casino. You don't think it's going to be dirty business going on? They say it takes a certain level of ruthlessness to get rich. Not to get rich, but to a certain level, yeah, probably. And then it takes even more ruthlessness to stay rich. Yes. To get rich, no.

Speaker 7:To stay rich, I can, I mean, not what we consider rich. I'm saying like, like you own the color blue rich, like those people. Yeah, you got to be stingy as fuck.

Speaker 1:And I'm not saying Nas is there. I want to make it clear.

Speaker 7:I'm not saying Nas is there. I don't know these people. But that's just my guess that there was some type of contract dispute. And Nas could have every right of what he's saying.

Speaker 1:It's definitely contractual. I've been in situations like that too where everyone thinks they're right.

Speaker 4:It's definitely contractual. It's definitely that. It's definitely something with the business of the albums.

Speaker 1:Without a doubt.

Speaker 7:He said it's a lot of reasons though. Yeah, because it gets pretty deep. He said it's a lot of reasons. So it can't just be the contract. The contract is a lot of reasons.

Speaker 1:Yeah. That's one reason.

Speaker 7:Yeah, but I could also see that when it comes to money. That shit gets pretty deep to me because I know Hit-Boy has his child in the studio all the time. Now you taking money out of my kid's mouth. That gets deep to me.

Speaker 1:Call Hit-Boy, man. We doing all this speculating. Just call this nigga. When Nas did. You're going to make me be the one, hey, you're live on a podcast. Yeah. We can either keep it or take it out, depending on what Nas did. Depending on what Nas did.

Speaker 7:All right, here's my thing more. You guys can add me on the internet to that you're not a journalist to find things person. It's something I don't really want to dig too deep into. I'm not about to call him and try to dig deep into it.

Speaker 1:Yeah, he said he don't want to get into it.

Speaker 7:I'm not about to call somebody that I consider a friend associate and be like, yo, let's dig into it on the microphone.

Speaker 1:Pause. Yeah, all right. I'm a terrible podcaster. No, I think that that's very fair.

Speaker 7:I'm a terrible podcaster. I'm not about to. He says, I'm going to take my man's words for it. And I consider him, boy, my man's. It's something I don't really want to dig too deep into.

Speaker 1:But he might not have wanted to talk about that shit with Elliot and Fred. No, he brought it back up when they started talking about themselves. All right, just call him. I want to ask him, should we stop listening? You call him. You got his number two. Should we stop listening to Nas? No.

Speaker 4:Like, is this something like we should be like, yo, we shouldn't fuck with Nas no more? Like, did he do bad like that?

Speaker 1:He would've... Come on now. I just want to know. He ain't got to say what it was. He'd be like, yeah, nah, he did me dirty.

Speaker 4:If he say he did him dirty, all right, we not listen to the Nas no more.

Speaker 1:He ain't got to tell me what it was. But if he say, yo, he did me dirty, I'm like, all right, we can't listen to Nas no more. Nah, I shouldn't be doing Hit-Boy dirty. It was a good dude. It's mad.

Speaker 6:The whole music industry is people getting done dirty. If that's the case, you got to delete half your motherfucking catalog on your Apple Music.

Speaker 2:Right.

Speaker 1:If it comes to contract disputes, industry rule number 4080. Record company people are shady. Right. That's the way I would have wrapped it.

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 1:But I'm glad you added people in there. Record company people are shady.

Speaker 6:Yeah.

Speaker 1:I get it.

Speaker 2:I mean.

Speaker 7:They had six albums together. That's a cool chapter. That's also something I could see Hit-Boy in years.

Speaker 2:It's being like, yo, we had a great run. It ended terribly. Hit-Boy gave Nas some of his best music. It was a thing for years, Nas beats us terrible.

Speaker 1:I don't know where that came from.

Speaker 2:Vlad?

Speaker 1:Vlad really made that up? No, no. That was always a thing. Vlad just wears that like a badge of honor for some reason. That shit is cap. I've always felt it's cap, but to Vlad's credit, he didn't come up with, like, that was always a thing. That was always a thing.

Speaker 2:To the point, Nas' beats weren't always that terrible. But those Hit Boys beats was a lot better than a lot of beats Nas ever rapped on. I feel like, I feel like after maybe like his sixth album, maybe his beats wasn't But even then, he still was like, he still had fire beats because he was getting Polo the Don beats and all kinds of shit.

Speaker 1:But Zip, that Hero record, I love Nas Hero. I love it. You and I may be like the few people. That beat? That beat is, but I love Polo the Don. You don't like that beat? I love that beat. That drum shit.

Speaker 7:That whole, Terry Hilson went nuts on that shit. But that was like, people say like, this is why Nas can't pick beats.

Speaker 1:I'm like, this is crazy. Y'all are bugging. Yeah. right yo that shit was crazy.

Speaker 2:On that but i'm saying it was one of his better beats illmatic there's no whack beats on illmatic bro it it.

Speaker 1:Created the it split from the producer dj and mc thing to we could just work with any producer we want it created.

Speaker 2:This thing then then then it was written there's no whack beats on it was written bro.

Speaker 1:You Some could make a case That it's better beats.

Speaker 2:Than Nomadic Only the only one I don't really like Is the Nas is coming Nasty Nas is Nas is That's the only beat I really don't like on it It wasn't the beat It's a lot going on Yeah It's a lot of shit going on In the beat I have had.

Speaker 7:Some questionable shit Nostradamus I don't think this is bad I am questionable beats I don't mind. I think Dave Grease went crazy on that shit, though. I know, I like I Am, but there was some that were out of Nas. I don't think people expected Nas to rap on that type of stuff. Nostradamus, I don't think it's as bad as people claim it is. Lost Tape beats is crazy to me. They shooting and all of that? Lost Tape. Purple is one of the fucking best beats I've ever heard.

Speaker 2:Whoever said Nas got wack beats is wack. Whoever said that is whack.

Speaker 1:Nas got classy beats.

Speaker 7:Yeah, I've never subscribed to that idea that Nas picks bad beats. I just don't think he picks the... Cool G Rap picked bad beats. If Cool G Rap picked better beats, they would consider him the nicest nigga of all time, bro. No, he picked trash beats back then.

Speaker 1:But he was coming off the time that it was this like, oh God, how do I word this correctly? Without getting killed. For the more simple drum pattern stuff, because I mean, I think... I think that time of the producers there, Marley Moore, I think they're the reason they get sampled every day.

Speaker 7:They were a bit simpler. Cool G-Rap was coming from that era and was picking complex beats.

Speaker 2:But he was taking the wackest Marley Moore beats in Polish because I'm saying like, Big Daddy Kane didn't have wack beats.

Speaker 1:No, he didn't.

Speaker 2:Rakim didn't have wack beats. KRS-One beats wasn't wack like that. Bismarck beats wasn't wack like that. G-Rap was the only one picking wack beats. He probably got like three fire beats. But he was moving into the era that ended up being the Nas whole. That was fire. Road to the Riches was fire. He don't really got good beats, bro. I have to go back.

Speaker 1:I don't remember G-Rap having bad beats, though. Go back and listen to them shits. Trash. Horrible.

Speaker 4:Well, either way, man, this was surprising news, definitely. But, you know, he said he doesn't see them working together again. And maybe, you know, maybe Nas might reach out and Make things right.

Speaker 1:Maybe they do a sit-down like Chance and Vic. Maybe they do.

Speaker 4:A sit-down like Vic Mensah and Chance the Rapper.

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Speaker 6:What do you guys feel about what Chance actually said as far as him admitting to being jealous?

Speaker 1:Well, not jealous, but you know. Chance wasn't jealous.

Speaker 6:Chance admitted to being selfish and not wanting to share his stage with Vic.

Speaker 1:Vic said he was jealous.

Speaker 6:Okay, but Chance came out and said, I didn't want to do it because I didn't want to share the stage with you.

Speaker 7:He wanted something for himself. And I think they sensed children. I think they were in the same fucking music program in Chicago.

Speaker 1:Wanted to be.

Speaker 7:By himself on something. Like, one, he made a good point of like, I feel like Vic and I are peers, so I don't want him opening for me, which I think is a noble thing to do as well. I'm not about to do that to my man.

Speaker 1:But he admitted that that was bullshit. He literally said that. Let me finish.

Speaker 7:That's what he started with. But he was also like, I didn't want to share that because he really felt that they were peers. They would have shared that. That Vic and Chance thing was a big moment with Acid Rap and Vic coming out, pardon me for forgetting that first project. Take my hip hop card. Yeah, I can see Chance 2 being young and being like, dog, I kind of just want to do something by myself.

Speaker 1:I don't want to be attached to this. I just don't. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, we ain't no group. I understand it. We friends and all that. I mean, I get where, you know. Both sides.

Speaker 2:I can see where you would take your man with you, and I can see where you won't take him. Like, yo, everything they do, when they think about me, they think about you. So this right here, I'm going to do this on my own time.

Speaker 7:I mean, also, it could be cool to just build that shit together. There is, I wouldn't, selfish is not the right word. But I can see trying to get away from that shadow of your friend. But at the same time, if I know my friend is fucked up, I'm going to bring an opener on the road of somebody I don't even know. We could build some shit together here.

Speaker 1:You my mans. I've known you forever. I know you fucked up and I know you need the money. I'm going to just grab some random person. So they fell out over that? They have fell out over that?

Speaker 7:I think that was the start of many more things.

Speaker 1:But then, yeah, I mean, that was the start of it. I understand it. I get it. I just. I get both sides. I get both sides. You my man. You about to go on tour. You ain't taking me. I don't get both sides. What side you don't get?

Speaker 5:I don't.

Speaker 1:Okay, how can I?

Speaker 6:I can understand, but I think that that comes from a fear of being outshone on your own tour.

Speaker 1:That's what I think. Me personally.

Speaker 7:I think they shared a lot of the same fan base at that point, but let's not act like Chance was not.

Speaker 1:A little bit bigger. In their bubble, they were peers. He was. But Chance was bigger. He was significantly bigger.

Speaker 7:I think right after that, I mean, it may not have been right at the Acid Rap Tour, but then Chance got the feature on the Bieber record.

Speaker 6:Like, Chance was starting to be... Chance was on his way out of there, for sure. I don't think that takes away from... That doesn't negate what I said.

Speaker 1:We'll expound more.

Speaker 6:You done been out with two pretty girls and one might be significantly prettier than the other one and it's not going to stop her from being jealous if you pay more attention. It doesn't matter what the public perceives other people's talent to be. When you deep down inside might look and be like, I just think I might get a little bit too much shine for my tour. And I'm not saying that Chance was doing that in a hater way. Chance seems like a very sweet person.

Speaker 6:It could just be just like an underlying like.

Speaker 1:I don't. It could be an underlying insecurity. It could be.

Speaker 6:And I think that if it wasn't coming from that, he wouldn't have apologized. I think there was a little bit of a selfishness to it.

Speaker 7:You're thinking that he thought, all right, this won't be the chance to rapper tour. It'll be the chance in Vic tour.

Speaker 1:Yes. Which I get to.

Speaker 7:And from a business standpoint as well, like now I got to stand on my own right now.

Speaker 1:It's got to be the chance. What business standpoint? It doesn't hurt him. I have to make my my brand stand. for me.

Speaker 6:You can make your brand for you, but it doesn't, it's not going to take anything away from you.

Speaker 1:You're not going to lose fans.

Speaker 4:But I think that's what Chance was speaking to. Like, he realizes that now.

Speaker 1:Yeah. Like, you're not going to lose fans if anything you gain.

Speaker 4:In the moment, in the moment, he felt that way. Like, he might lose something or he kind of want to stand on his own. And then now he's looking at it like, nah, but you my, you my brother. We definitely, I should have had you on that tour.

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 4:I mean, you mature, you get older, you grow, you learn, you know, I respect that. The fact that they both sat down and, spoke about those things is honorable.

Speaker 1:I like that. That's content that is worth watching.

Speaker 6:I think that happens a lot more than people would like to admit.

Speaker 1:What? People not knocking their friends down a peg.

Speaker 6:I don't want to put it like that, but not giving them the opportunity to climb more.

Speaker 4:First of all, that's why I sit on here all the time and salute Lil Wayne. Now, him, Drake, and Nicki weren't the best of friends.

Speaker 1:They didn't grow up together.

Speaker 2:But when you recognize somebody's talent and you already lit, niggas don't just step out the way and fall back into the shadows and let y'all. That's not a normal thing. People do not do that. And that's why Lil Wayne is to be celebrated and saluted for doing that. Because he could have eased all them records he was in, Drake play in the studio.

Speaker 1:Give me that.

Speaker 2:Wayne could have eased him like, yo, I need that. I got a verse for that. Need that on this album.

Speaker 1:We about to make Drake Nate dog. Yeah. Need that, need that on this album. What?

Speaker 2:That's how that shit goes in the industry. When you lit like that, you don't just step out the way and you got somebody signed to you.

Speaker 1:Get your shit off.

Speaker 2:Go ahead.

Speaker 1:You eat.

Speaker 2:Nah, not in this game. So when Lil Wayne did that and then obviously Drake and Nicki went on to become who they are. You got to salute Lil Wayne every opportunity you get for doing that, because.

Speaker 1:That does not happen in the industry. Friends are not. Obviously, they're friends.

Speaker 4:Drake, Nicki, and Wayne wasn't nowhere near as close as Chance and Vic.

Speaker 1:Akon got out the way on some niggas, too. Yeah. T-Pain, Lady, he got out their way.

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 4:Because he was lit. That's what I'm saying. That's not a normal thing. It don't happen.

Speaker 2:You just don't, you know, you got to salute that because... Raekwon.

Speaker 7:Raekwon is a huge example of that. I mean, Ghost was Ghost coming off 36 Chambers, but only built for Cuban Lynx was Raekwon's... Featuring Ghostface.

Speaker 1:He gave him half his advance. He featured him all night long, yo, here.

Speaker 7:They was all waiting in line for a solo project.

Speaker 1:And then wasn't beefing about, like, you not doing it back.

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 1:Salute that murder mother.

Speaker 6:People need to be more like that but a lot of people don't know they're being insecure in the moment like self-awareness is very hard to come by a lot of people don't know why they're doing the things that they're doing or they're reacting the way that they're reacting because their brain will come up with like a logical explanation in the moment but in reality it's like no this is stemming from an insecurity but if you don't know yourself you won't know that.

Speaker 2:There is another side girlfriends from back then both of them dudes do they both have the same girlfriend divorce.

Speaker 1:That divorce um yeah i don't know like fix dating history.

Speaker 2:Bet you they won't say how much them broads had to do with that.

Speaker 1:I doubt it. I wouldn't put that on.

Speaker 6:I think that that's more... Women don't... Women are more like, nah, put your mans on. Like, that's more men shit.

Speaker 2:You don't need that nigga. She gonna go with what you say. Like, I don't think I need that nigga. I want to do this shit. Yeah, fuck that nigga.

Speaker 1:That's all you need, right, baby? Or go the other way.

Speaker 4:You sitting down Laying down with a chick And she's like Yo that nigga jealous of you Yeah just out of nowhere When a woman plant that seed Yeah he jealous of you Drop that on you Now you start looking at your man Every chance like This nigga.

Speaker 6:Doobie But women But women know this shit Like that too though No no I'm not saying y'all don't I'm not saying women don't They be damn right Plenty of women Have put me on to that Cause like I said Sometimes I be oblivious I'm thinking Like your bro might.

Speaker 2:Have Told Chance that about Vic Like yo he jealous of you This is what I'm saying. That's why I ain't taking that nigga with me on that at all.

Speaker 1:Right. Not saying that that's what happened. Not saying it could be something like that.

Speaker 4:Just speculate that, you know, maybe there was some female friends around that may have dropped the scene.

Speaker 1:The girls been around the same time too? They always around? Because we friends.

Speaker 6:Niggas taking accountability for what they doing. Somehow y'all found a way to make it women's fault.

Speaker 1:I love it. No, no, no. I'm not saying that. It's always women's fault.

Speaker 2:I'm not making it women's fault, but a lot of men do fault their fallouts.

Speaker 4:Somewhere in there, we can do our... Professor X shit and go into the cerebrum shit and.

Speaker 1:Just look around. But a lot of times- The whole shit, it's going to be a woman somewhere in there.

Speaker 2:Yeah, but sometimes it's great- Yeah, baby, don't act like pussy ain't kill more niggas than everything except for religion.

Speaker 3:Right.

Speaker 6:Pussy don't kill anything. Y'all unable- And pussy's part of the reason religion kills. Being unable to control your ego and thinking you own women is what kills people. Women didn't do anything.

Speaker 1:They just exist. Y'all's egos be killing each other. Empires have fallen because of the twat. And y'all's ego- I don't have nothing to do with nothing.

Speaker 2:I know Game of Thrones has taught me that niggas just want to fight and bitches want to be in power.

Speaker 3:Right.

Speaker 2:Let's get to that. The niggas ain't give a fuck about no throne. Not near nigga in the show.

Speaker 1:I remember. Gave a fuck about this. Every broad. Daenerys. Cersei. This is up to Daenerys. Every, every Daenerys. Every bitch with a Daenerys. Daenerys? Daenerys. I was about to say. There's a Daenerys in that show and no one has ever told me that? Yeah. Her name is Daenerys. It's like my name. There's a Daenerys. Oh my God. With an N. With an N. That's Daenerys' cousin. Daenerys, yeah. That's Daenerys' cousin back there. Yo, where them other? The bitches want to be queen. All of them. Yeah. Every single one. One power.

Speaker 2:Like, Sansa, she want to be the leader in the North. Like, every bitch want to be in power. The niggas just want to fight, man. The niggas want to swing swords and axes and shit like that.

Speaker 1:Boys will be boys. Right and right. Keep it real.

Speaker 5:Yeah.

Speaker 1:Keep it real. The men want to be in power, too. No, they don't give a fuck. Yes, they do. Them niggas bad niggas. I wish I never had this shit. All of them niggas. I don't want this shit.

Speaker 6:That's once they get it. That's once they get it, they don't want it.

Speaker 2:Ain't nothing that a lady say that on the show. Yeah.

Speaker 1:My nanny lady said she don't want that. I denounced this crowd. Yeah, fuck off. I denounced this crowd. I've never heard one in my life say that. Yo, the lady blew up the church.

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 1:The big church. What?

Speaker 6:She blew up the church because they were punishing her.

Speaker 1:Y'all think y'all about to take me to jail?

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 6:They had my bitch in jail They wasn't feeding her They walked her through the streets naked They was throwing shit at her The commoners was throwing shit at her It is her fault She did that It is her fault.

Speaker 1:But because of that She blew up the church.

Speaker 2:Put that nigga in power Thought she was doing something slick Put that nigga in power Nigga violated her Y'all zip I love that shit I watch that shit everyday I gotta watch it All of the ladies wanted to be in power man Can you show me what Daenerys look like?

Speaker 1:Yeah I'll show you Daenerys. What's Daenerys' backstory? She's a queen. We can't tell you because we don't want to ruin the show, but she... It doesn't even matter. She's supposed to be the leader of the free world. Oh, I've seen her.

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. She's been in memes and shit. Tough.

Speaker 6:Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:Targaryen. Yeah, she's definitely bringing down a bunch of empires. She was thirsty to be the queen. That milky white skin. Well, it belonged to her. It did? Okay, well, let's talk about it. That milky white skin. That alabaster. That milky white. I don't think it belonged to her. That milky milky white. Once we got your father the fuck about in, you're done. You have no right to this.

Speaker 6:Well, they didn't, but no, because they didn't get the father out of there the right way, or technically the legal way. Like, he was murdered illegally, so the throne still belongs to her.

Speaker 1:That milky white skin. That's what you like. Long golden hair. That's your type. Jon Snow is the heir to the throne. Yeah, I know. Stop. What if niggas ain't see you, is it? If a nigga ain't seen that shit, that shit is 15 years old. A nigga ain't seen that shit, that's on them.

Speaker 4:I only didn't watch the last season and a half of that shit.

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 1:I didn't see the last season. You pulled the bench for that. Everybody. I'm playing myself. Well, shout out to Daenerys and Daenerys. Shout out to Daenerys and Daenerys. Shout out to Big D.

Speaker 7:And nothing to do with Chance and Vic at all, but what happens if you are about to go on tour and your man is your peer, but you know your man.

Speaker 1:is not going to perform. Up to a certain level? Yeah. Like, what about, what about, yeah, like, what about that?

Speaker 7:That thought that no one else would know except for me and my man's like, you.

Speaker 1:About to fuck this tour up. Well, then you have a conversation. Well, yeah, that's how you fix it. Because the whole world could look like, yo, why you didn't put your man on? My man does nothing but fucking smoke and sleep. Well, then more people need to be honest with their fucking friends so that he can't. You can be honest with your friend and he's not going to get out of bed. He ain't going to hear that.

Speaker 4:Yeah, You tell your homegirl, you about to go on tour, Baby D. The Baby D tour. And your homegirl, she want to open up for you.

Speaker 1:Daenerys and Daenerys.

Speaker 4:Yeah, she want to open up for you. You like, yo, I ain't going to lie, Tasha, you're not ready, though. How do you think that conversation is going to go? Tasha going to be like, yo, you right. I see what you're saying.

Speaker 1:No, she can get upset, but I'm not going to pretend.

Speaker 7:But now the whole world looking at you like you didn't put your homegirl on. She's just as talented from what they see. Y'all got the same mixtape, the same fire. But you putting in work, you putting the whole show together. You doing rehearsals. You there like and this. Yeah, I just want to get a mic. Just give me a mic and I'll go out there. Now you about to fuck up my tour.

Speaker 6:The whole world can hate me on that. If I know that I did right and I ain't do bad, I'm cool with that.

Speaker 1:To me, that's your people doing you wrong. Yeah, no, you should come out and be honest.

Speaker 7:If I brought you on my tour and you don't even want to show up and perform and now you.

Speaker 1:Fucking up my shit. That's disrespect to me.

Speaker 6:What I'm saying is if I know as the person who chose not to put them on tour, no matter what the world is saying, why she's not on tour. I know that I didn't do bad. I don't care what the world is saying.

Speaker 7:I don't give a fuck And I'm not saying That was a Chance and Vic thing But I do think That's also something When people.

Speaker 6:Just with jobs period People become Celebrities overnight They friends from the hood Want a job Why I'm not your manager Why I'm not this Why I'm not in charge Of your hair and makeup Because I've watched you Your whole life Every time we go somewhere You late Nah you can't.

Speaker 1:That's what ruined hip hop.

Speaker 4:Yes ma'am Yes ma'am Niggas getting Label deals And hiring they man To be head of A & R And all that shit And president of this And But that's see, that's where I don't know what he doing. Just because that's your man don't mean he need to be on payroll.

Speaker 7:But that's where it sucks because you should also take that risk because we've got some of the greatest execs that would have never gotten a shot, got a shot because of that.

Speaker 1:Yeah.

Speaker 4:Some of the greatest execs started off as interns and learned the business as well.

Speaker 7:No, for sure. It's that's just such a crapshoot because I agree with you. Like I've seen labels and joint. ventures fail because they put their friends on and it should be somebody that knows what they're doing there but we've gotten you don't get an Irv Gotti unless that happens like yeah those opportunities should still be given.

Speaker 4:I'm not saying they shouldn't be given but like somebody like Irv again came up young was in it was around it you know I mean like some of these dudes they get a label deal tomorrow and then they man that never did nothing in music never interned nowhere don't know nothing that He's the head of A & R.

Speaker 1:Nah, let him pick beats. What? He like my shit, so he has to understand the world.

Speaker 4:It's just like, come on, you get a whole bunch of bullshit in the ecosystem because of that.

Speaker 1:Like, They don't do that in country music. They don't do that in R & B.

Speaker 7:Also, you see Rihanna talk about how much Tata did for her career. At the end of the day, if you want to put it on paper, Tata was Jay's man since childhood, but then developed one of the biggest pop stars we've ever seen.

Speaker 1:Right, but standing next to Jay all those years. Jay would say standing next to Tata all those years helped him. Yeah, one and the same. Both hands wash, one hand wash the other. But everybody ain't Tata. And we need to be okay with that. And I agree.

Speaker 7:I'm just saying you could leave out somebody like a Tata if you have the mentality that you shouldn't put any of your people on because they don't know what they're doing. Sometimes those are the greatest ears. Sometimes they're the greatest people.

Speaker 4:But Tata wasn't put on from day one.

Speaker 1:No, of course. You had to learn the game. Yeah, learn the game. And it's like, okay. And it's like, yo, nigga, you around this shit all the time. You know how to do this shit.

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 4:That's what I'm saying. Like, that's where it's okay.

Speaker 7:Even if you hear Goo, everyone just, yo, it was always just Jay and Tata. Tata was in the studio, like a studio record.

Speaker 1:Listening, learning, just watching. You know, like, okay, like, yeah.

Speaker 2:And then obviously, like, yo, you know what a hit record is by now. You can hear it. Like, you know when it's like, okay, this checks all the boxes.

Speaker 1:This is a hit. Like, okay, let's go curate a new star. Yeah. And Walks Rihanna. We can work with this. Let's give it a tie. I know how we can make this happen. But if you just bring your man off the block that... He don't even know, he don't know nothing. And then you like, yo, fuck it. I got, they gave me a label deal. Fuck it.

Speaker 2:You going?

Speaker 1:Yes. There needs, the way there needs to be more artist development, pause. There needs to be more, uh, your man's development. Yeah. You need to develop your man's development. Develop your man's beat. Develop your man's.

Speaker 6:And I feel like it takes like a, it, you need to be able to recognize your friend's traits and recognize what they're good at and why they're good at it.

Speaker 1:So you can even know what they need to develop, right?

Speaker 6:Like, do you have a friend that's more organized or do you have a friend that's more creative? If you have a friend that's more creative and you know that this person is like, they could just come up with the coolest concepts or all of this stuff. I wouldn't go and put them in charge or run in a schedule because they're not going to be, they might not specialize in that.

Speaker 1:They're going to have everybody late. You got to put people where they could, they strength. Where they strength, but a lot of people don't know people's strength.

Speaker 4:That takes a certain person to identify that. But to the chance invicting, it is dope that they, Again, squash their differences and put everything in the past and now back in a healthier space with each other.

Speaker 1:Even though I think crying on camera is crazy. That's just me. This is me. I'm sorry. I think crying on camera is fine. I think filming yourself crying is insane. That's all. You know that's Vic's show, right? No, man. He picks the orange and he says shit I agree with. I agree with it. I fuck with Vic. Even though I'm not the biggest Vic music fan, I.

Speaker 4:Do fuck with him. Yeah, I'm not a huge Vic music, but I like him. I like his personality. He seems like a good dude.

Speaker 1:No, for sure. And Chance is our guy. You know that. We fuck with him. That's rap map of last year. That's a fact. Do we have voicemails? I don't particularly care to get in this VMA shit. I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 6:We can do it on Patreon because we can actually play the videos.

Speaker 1:Okay. Yeah. No voicemails. No voicemails? We can go to... Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, a little teaser for the VMA stuff. Just give Meg every award where she's shaking her ass. I'm with that. I'm fine with that. What category is that? It will be probably best hip hop video. Oh, best hip hop video. Best videos ever. Okay.

Speaker 3:Ever?

Speaker 1:It's crazy.

Speaker 7:I don't like that Meg tried to tease us with the Act 3 shit and it's been like a week.

Speaker 1:I've yet to see. Oh, how dare she go roll out. I've yet to see. I need more videos. How dare she do it? I'm a visual learner. All right. Well, new music coming out tonight. Who we got? Uh, so fat, fat, fat, you fat Joe. Shout out to fat. You fat.

Speaker 6:Joe has an album coming out.

Speaker 1:Legendary influence called organized crime. Um, organized rhyme. I'm sorry. Organized rhyme. I saw that. Uh, he had a push a T snippet that he was playing today. Did you like it?

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 1:It sounded good. Um, Push has like mastered Biggs flow. And I mean that in a good way. Like not biting, but push is great at that.

Speaker 7:Don't even see, don't even start. I hope to God that this doesn't make sense. I hope no one goes back to this clip and goes, oh, I'm all new. I hope to God.

Speaker 1:Oh, I know. Never mind. I hope to God that this clip right now makes no sense to anybody.

Speaker 6:Never mind. Raw Wave has a new album coming out called Don't Look Down. More suicidal music for your head top.

Speaker 1:You know who got that kind of music?

Speaker 2:Who?

Speaker 1:The kid from Brooklyn. Kind of heavyset. He's not Kyle. Something Kyle. Kyle would call him heavy.

Speaker 2:You know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1:He just did a song with Surf. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It should make you want to fucking crash. Are you okay? That's what it makes you laugh. Welcome home, Surf. And I hope Surf battles, man. Surf's nice, bro. Surf is amazing. Surf is nice, bro. Well, I understand. I know you don't pay attention to battle rap, but end of the episode, we can talk about it. I understand Serf wants 200 grand, but it's time to battle, bro. 200,000 for a battle? I believe that's what he said. He's making a lot of money. Fuck out of here, nigga. He loves Serf too much. I want to see Serf and Mook battle.

Speaker 1:I think Serf and Mook could easily make over 200 grand if they plan that battle properly. Serf and Mook battle?

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 1:They each making way over 200 grand. I believe that.

Speaker 2:I heard that money ain't there like that no more and that shit.

Speaker 1:It's not. You pay with all that shit. Mook and Surf? No, I'm... Yes. And their tickets on top. Hard tickets. But I'm going to be real. I don't think Surf can fuck with Mook, though. In the battle.

Speaker 4:The only reason why I don't think Surf can fuck with Mook, not because of Surf's pen, is Mook's performance.

Speaker 1:Mook, like... It's theater. I mean that in a good way. Because I ain't go lie. I was listening.

Speaker 2:I watched him in Hitman, right? And I was kind of like, this shit was like kind of closer than that. But then I watched it again. I was like, this shit is not even close at all.

Speaker 1:This nigga Mook is wild. Mook in Hitman. Yeah, no.

Speaker 4:Mook is, his Mook strength is, I'm going to be honest, I don't think I've ever seen Mook like fumble like a rhyme.

Speaker 1:He don't be stuttering. He knows rhymes. Not that I can remember. He knows rhymes. You can have a personal opinion on your favorite, but there's not a better performer than Mook. In my opinion. Oh, Lux is... I mean, yeah. T-Rock. T-Rock's like T-Rock. But a lot of people even got their whole performance style from Mook. Not Lux, but... Yeah, Lux is... Lux to me... Mook is kind of... Shit. Sirius and Mook, everyone kind of took their performance style.

Speaker 1:Lux and Mook to me are the two guys. Rex is another one who... Love Rex. I've never seen Rex fumble around. Not that I can remember him. Third round against... T-Rex? Yeah.

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 1:I like it, man.

Speaker 4:Yeah, Rex be going crazy. But Surf and Mook, that's definitely a big card. That definitely one of the bigger cards in the last quarter million.

Speaker 7:Salute to Surf, but I don't understand why he don't think he could get 200 grand from a Mook battle.

Speaker 1:You get half a million dollars from a Mook battle. Surf doesn't think he can get that?

Speaker 7:Well, he was saying that he's getting booked for shows and like everything. And yes, that's the price. He's not battling because he's scared. He's battling, which I also, I know the battle rap world's like, oh, he must be scared. Nah, they're still businessmen at the end of the day. But yeah, you got to have a certain price. No, listen, I respect it. Your price is your price.

Speaker 1:I get that. But then your price is your price. But that price is you saying, I know you could get.

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 1:That's my whole thing.

Speaker 4:Erykah Badu and the Alchemist Before the World Blows album available now Young Miami Spin That remix featuring Lil Baby and Kodak.

Speaker 6:Black so they on her ass about this why we guessed Kodak we did guess Kodak we guessed both of them I think we did guess Lil Baby too did we.

Speaker 2:Say Lil I know we said Blueface I know y'all said he would be interested on that but we definitely said Lil Baby and Kodak I don't remember Lil Baby but Kodak sure how do y'all feel about this but they mad at her about that why They said that there were better features that she could have potentially picked.

Speaker 6:Some people even said it should have been a woman's posse cut.

Speaker 1:I don't particularly agree with that.

Speaker 6:I'm good on, like, if she would have did one more woman and then a male rapper, I'd have been fine.

Speaker 1:But, yeah. No, I think... I think he's complaining about every fucking thing. Yeah. Because, like, Lil Baby.

Speaker 6:Everybody wants to be in A & R these days.

Speaker 1:But I can understand... What, they want her to get Cardi and Sexy Red? Huh? They want her... Plies and Trina? Plies and Trina? My only critique on this is it's too late.

Speaker 2:Please, you made that up just now?

Speaker 1:That was like.

Speaker 2:Respectfully, I don't want to hit Trina or Plies on nothing ever again. Really?

Speaker 1:I'd be fine. I fuck with Plies.

Speaker 8:What?

Speaker 1:And Trina would be great on that. I'm good on that. I would have loved Trina on Spin That. I ain't going to lie. Y'all don't think it's too late? That's my only critique. Is it too late for her? No, it's not too late. It makes sense in Miami for Trina to be on that. That makes sense.

Speaker 2:Yeah.

Speaker 1:Trina Young Miami, that makes sense.

Speaker 6:That would have been dope. But when people were writing that online, I thought that that was stupid. Why do you think that? Well, I'm not calling your take stupid, but why would you think that it's too late? Because I think even if this is played.

Speaker 1:Outside, they're going to play the hook in her part. I don't know.

Speaker 7:Unless Lil Baby and Kodak have monumental verses, Spend That, it's a record.

Speaker 1:It's done.

Speaker 7:Not the time has passed. The record is the record of the summer. But yeah, you should have done a remix fucking.

Speaker 1:Four weeks ago. Too many people got their own remixes. That moment has passed to rejuvenate. It's already what it is.

Speaker 2:Well, it would have been interesting. She gonna change the whole beat type shit? Yeah, that would be dope. Or some remix shit like back in the day? But the beat makes the song, so....

Speaker 6:Not necessarily unless it has like a fire ass break like you would do a fire ass beat switch and little baby.

Speaker 1:And no that helps with the dj to keep playing that record outside what would have been interesting is jt on the verse.

Speaker 6:I mean yeah sure the city girls would have been interesting but that ain't gonna happen.

Speaker 1:They beefing like they don't they don't.

Speaker 6:They doing their own things they ain't really fucking with each other like that.

Speaker 1:I don't know that i'm just i don't I thought they was cool they're chancing dick so one of them got a crowd camera she.

Speaker 2:Should have put the Prissy Rickey nigga on there that got locked up for scamming instead of Kodak.

Speaker 7:Not for nothing though Pleasure P would be alright didn't he take like 20.

Speaker 1:Something million that's the most scamming ass.

Speaker 7:No I know he wasn't the one that got locked up but I'm saying Pleasure P he's scamming like the Nigerians I don't know what he.

Speaker 2:Do what's he saying he dress like him too yeah he be wow he be seeing his fits he got the fur the whole back was leather see.

Speaker 1:The shoes and all that yeah they match.

Speaker 2:They match whatever the coat is the shoes match stealing money and posting the Lamborghini is the funniest thing ever huh If you stealing money and posting a Lamborghini is the funniest thing.

Speaker 1:He was supposed to be on that song, bro. He's a scamming ass nigga. Spend that shit. What the fuck? Spend that shit. Spend that. He supposed to at least say that. Let him say that part. Right? Taxpayer money. Spend that shit. That would have been good. I think that would have been good. Oh, yeah. I'm with you. Busta Rhymes, J Dilla, Diligence 2.

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 1:Out now. I'm looking forward to that. Majid Jordan, Two Roads album.

Speaker 3:Yeah.

Speaker 1:Know how I feel about Majid Jordan, Rory. And it's raining right now. I hope it rains through the weekend.

Speaker 7:I might put Amara in the car seat and just drive to Majid in the rain.

Speaker 1:September's right around the corner. Fall. You can smell fall. You don't have to feel about Majid. I saw three leaves on the ground this morning. It's coming. It's happening. We're in need of Majid Project for sure.

Speaker 6:Rob 4ix9ine and Sexy Red in the club is the song that's coming out.

Speaker 1:I'm excited about that. I love Rob 4ix9ine. I like Rob 4ix9ine.

Speaker 6:I was thinking last night, I was like, damn, like, Music missing Tay Keith already.

Speaker 1:Yeah. A lot of those artists, they're going to miss that vibe.

Speaker 6:The next three, four years, you really going to be able to see the difference unless somebody comes and finds a way to be a copycat.

Speaker 4:Well, Stability AI, is that the name of the app? The technology, Stability AI? I'm sure they'll plug that in and try to tap into some of Tay Keith's greatness at some point.

Speaker 1:Well, I'm sure the way Tay Keith made beats that there's hard drives of like thousands of joints. Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 7:And I'm curious what an estate, I wouldn't even like, even if that was my best friend or the head of his estate, I wouldn't even know what to do. Cause like, who would know if he would want that person on this record?

Speaker 1:Like, how do you even go about that? But I would love to hear more Tay Keith shit that has just sitting in his computer. Oh, for sure.

Speaker 4:Major labels are invested in stability AI, which trains AI to create based off of their catalogs.

Speaker 1:It's been a $ 76 million funding round. So AI. UMG, Warner, Sony are all invested.

Speaker 4:Do with that information what you feel is best, but we do not support AI in the arts over here.

Speaker 1:They own the catalog. But it is what it is. All right, we'll talk to y'all soon. We about to head to Patreon. Meet Astaire. I'm that nigga, he's just Ginger. Netflix it. Let's get to that. Right.

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