Pod Meets Twirl'd: Totally '90s House 103

0:10Speaker 1:Welcome to Podmeets Twirled, a podcast that has taken two men from ballroom dancing to murder mysteries to tropical islands to watching strangers get married. But finally, we've arrived at a reality show we are uniquely qualified to discuss because this time it's the 90s, specifically Totally 90s House. a home renovation show dedicated to answering the question, what happens when you take the decade of inflatable furniture, sponge-painted walls, CD towers, and enormous entertainment centers and try to make it work in today's world? We are Wilfred L. and Ryder Strong, two men who didn't just live through the 90s.

0:47Speaker 1:We contributed to them. We had the hair. We wore the clothes. We inhabited the sets. We helped create the very cultural debris now being lovingly excavated and called aesthetic. And for once, This is a reality show we could have been on. So join us as we revisit the tastes, trends, and deeply questionable design choices of the decade that made us and ask the terrifying question, were the 90s actually cool? Or are we just old enough to miss them? This is Pod Meets Twirled. Thank God it's fixed. How you doing, Will?

1:20Speaker 2:I'm tired, Ryder. I'm tired. And it's because I was a 90s kid. So I'm just 50 and tired now. This is a problem.

1:29Speaker 1:This is also probably your 10th podcast of the week.

1:32Speaker 2:No.

1:33Speaker 3:This week has been pretty nothing, which is nice because we moved everything because I'm flying out tomorrow.

1:39Speaker 1:So, yeah. Okay.

1:41Speaker 2:No, this is my first podcast of the week.

1:43Speaker 1:All right.

1:44Speaker 2:Me too. It's just taking place like basically right smack dab in the middle of nap time. So, it's, you know, come on.

1:50Speaker 1:It's always nap time for you. Oh, it should be.

1:53Speaker 2:But whatever. What should we talk about today, Ryder?

1:57Speaker 1:Well, we're going to talk about episode three of Totally 90s House, which I'm not sure if bedrooms are as 90s-ified in this case. I was a little.

2:11Speaker 2:I.

2:13Speaker 1:Feel like living rooms are really where the 90s came to life.

2:16Speaker 2:Maybe for you, baby, but the 90s sure had my bedroom.

2:19Speaker 4:I don't know.

2:20Speaker 2:I got nothing. Again, living rooms.

2:23Speaker 1:What was not great about this episode, the... Rooms themselves were tiny.

2:29Speaker 2:Really small. Two small bedrooms.

2:32Speaker 1:Yes. And I was like, oh, have bedrooms gotten bigger? Like, is that part of the trend? Because they felt very, I mean, the closets seemed kind of big.

2:40Speaker 2:The closets, they had two huge closets for two small bedrooms.

2:43Speaker 1:Right. Very small bedrooms. I was shocked. And so there wasn't much you could do. I was looking around being like, it's more about the staging and the furniture choices than it is.

2:53Speaker 2:About like- Agreed.

2:54Speaker 1:You know, what to do to the fixture. There's no fixture.

2:56Speaker 2:And there's some places it was easy. It's like, all right, that carpet's ugly. Take out the carpet. Like easy stuff. But yeah, some of it kind of weird.

3:04Speaker 1:Take out the carpet always.

3:06Speaker 2:That pink carpet, man.

3:07Speaker 1:That's- That's rough.

3:09Speaker 2:That's rough, that carpet.

3:11Speaker 1:All carpeting just feels, I mean, I kind of get it. Depends on the room. It's cozy.

3:16Speaker 2:Depends on the room. I'm a hardwood guy. I'm a hardwood guy myself.

3:19Speaker 1:Yeah, me too.

3:20Speaker 2:So I get it.

3:21Speaker 1:I'd rather just wear socks. Yeah, but back in the day, I was a carpet guy. Loved carpet.

3:27Speaker 2:Yeah. But again, in the 90s, I loved carpet.

3:31Speaker 3:Now that I'm old, this conversation's weird.

3:33Speaker 1:I guess I had carpet in my bedroom, too, that I was really.

3:35Speaker 2:This is a weird conversation.

3:37Speaker 1:Why?

3:37Speaker 2:Just saying, like, back in the day, I loved carpet.

3:41Speaker 1:You know, now I don't.

3:42Speaker 2:Now I love a bear.

3:44Speaker 4:It's just.

3:44Speaker 1:You like the carpet to match the drapes? Is that what you're saying?

3:47Speaker 2:It sounds like a creepy dude conversation. It just does. No, but that's how I was. But then, because I was a smoker and I had a cat, And I never took off my shoes.

3:57Speaker 3:Like, my carpets, by the end, when I move out of an apartment, were gross. I mean, it was just like, I'd have them clean and everything, but there'd be, like, black spots on them. And so when I moved into the house, it was like, take out all the carpets. Let's go straight hardwood. It's just such a better look all the way around.

4:11Speaker 2:Such a better look.

4:13Speaker 1:All right. Episode three begins. We are Curtain's House versus Mauve House. I guess that's what we're living with these team names.

4:19Speaker 2:By the way, do you think, speaking of this episode, you think Melissa's just gone? You think she's gone? That she did one episode and out? Yeah, I guess so. I think she's just gone.

4:29Speaker 1:Well, then why did they even start with her?

4:30Speaker 2:I have no idea.

4:31Speaker 1:Like, why did they just reshoot the beginning with Joey? Because it would take like half a day to do like that.

4:35Speaker 2:She was like barely there.

4:36Speaker 1:I guess maybe she had already scouted the first house. That must be it. But yeah, was she even in the opening credits?

4:43Speaker 2:Yeah, she's like the first one.

4:45Speaker 1:She's still in the opening credits. Okay. Because I noticed he was like fully in the opening credits. So it's like, oh, he's just part of the show now. And then they didn't make any reference to like when he's leaving or when she's coming back.

4:56Speaker 2:Yeah. I might have to text her and just be like, dude, are you actually, are you coming back to 90s house? I'm just curious.

5:04Speaker 1:Well, they shot it three months ago probably. Yeah.

5:07Speaker 2:So. I don't know. It's so funny. Are you coming back? Are you coming back? I got to find out.

5:15Speaker 1:She never said what it was she was going to do.

5:17Speaker 2:No, she just said something was greenlit.

5:19Speaker 1:Some jazz.

5:19Speaker 2:Yeah.

5:20Speaker 1:Some other TV show.

5:21Speaker 2:Yeah, seriously.

5:22Speaker 1:Some other reality show where she's got to go fix up houses from the early aughts.

5:26Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what it is. She's on early aughts house.

5:30Speaker 1:The early aughts.

5:31Speaker 2:That's great.

5:33Speaker 1:You can't even like call it the aughts. Is that what people are going to call it when they get all nostalgic for that period? Will anybody be nostalgic for the aughts?

5:42Speaker 2:Is there a vibe to the aughts?

5:44Speaker 3:Like, can you remember what the aughts were to where it was like, oh my God, that's so, like, it's so easy to go, oh my God, that's so 1997. But is there something to go like, oh my God, that's so 2003?

5:55Speaker 1:I think so. I think it's just that it's up to the people 10 years younger than us to make that call. That's probably right. You kind of have to be a teenager, I think, to feel and to know the trends. Because by that age, we were just making the trends and living them as if like, oh, it's just obvious that like, I don't know what, like, Speakeasies and... Speakeasies.

6:17Speaker 4:Whoa.

6:18Speaker 1:Wasn't that early aughts or was that teens, early teens?

6:21Speaker 2:That's like the 18 something. Are you talking about, you're talking like the, during prohibition, you're talking the 1930s?

6:27Speaker 1:No, remember when like cocktails and like speakeasies became cool again? No, never left my house. I think that was more like 2010. All right, so 2010, 2003 through 2000 like I don't know.

6:39Speaker 3:Man I was just like I was in my 20s right after 9-11 I mean 9-11 obviously set the tone for for the early aughts so that was it was a scary.

6:48Speaker 2:Time to be a lot you know what I mean it was like.

6:50Speaker 1:But culturally what was happening Britney Spears music Britney Spears was still popular the early aughts is when like The paparazzi like explosion. Oh, right, right, right.

7:01Speaker 2:Paparazzi was a big thing in the early aughts.

7:03Speaker 3:Like that was, and that was to the detriment of like late nineties, early aughts was like, was it late nineties when Princess, when Princess Di was killed?

7:12Speaker 2:That was, that was.

7:13Speaker 1:She was killed pretty early in the nineties.

7:15Speaker 4:Was it?

7:15Speaker 2:I was dating love. So that was 97. I think she was, she died. Oh, wow.

7:19Speaker 4:Oh, okay.

7:20Speaker 1:The worst time to be famous.

7:21Speaker 2:Yeah.

7:22Speaker 3:And then Britney Spears did have that whole freak out. And at the time we're like, they're crazy. And when you really look back and it's like, no, they were being hounded everywhere they went.

7:31Speaker 2:And it was like, how do you not lose it? I would have lost it too. Anybody would have. And so there, maybe you're right.

7:37Speaker 3:Maybe that like paparazzi and kind of the proliferation of reality maybe kind of started like that was a big thing.

7:45Speaker 4:Oh yeah.

7:45Speaker 1:Reality TV.

7:47Speaker 2:What's it going to be? Like, what's the style?

7:49Speaker 1:Smartphones came in. Yeah. 2007, 2008 smartphones. I don't know, man. Somebody's got a website that they've like dedicated to cataloging. You want to hear something weird? You want to hear something that I was so not tapped into pop culture.

8:07Speaker 2:Oh, sure.

8:07Speaker 1:I don't think I knew who Princess Di was before she died.

8:11Speaker 2:Yeah.

8:11Speaker 1:No clue. No clue. No idea.

8:13Speaker 2:Wow.

8:14Speaker 1:Really? Like the fact that, like when I found out that there was like this beloved princess in another, I was literally like, I don't know who that is. I don't know what this means.

8:24Speaker 2:Yeah.

8:24Speaker 3:I remember, I mean, I remember like watching their, the procession from their wedding was like all over the news. And it was thousands of people everywhere. And then when it turns out that he was cheating on her with Camilla. And again, I know nothing of royals.

8:38Speaker 2:I'm not a real guy at all.

8:39Speaker 4:What?

8:39Speaker 1:He cheated on her?

8:40Speaker 2:Sure, with the woman he's still with. That's one of the reasons they got divorced. That's the thing. So we talk about arranged marriages. This guy, they were like, you're marrying Princess Di. And he was in love with this woman, Camilla, the entire time. She was like chosen for him or something like that.

8:56Speaker 3:Because he has been in love with the same woman, the woman he's literally with now still.

9:01Speaker 2:His whole like his whole life. So he was was forced to marry, die. And he's meanwhile, then he's still with this Camilla woman, I think she found out.

9:12Speaker 3:And then again, he's still with her. So it's like, yeah, it's there was all that.

9:17Speaker 1:I love England. I love the country.

9:20Speaker 2:Oh.

9:21Speaker 1:I've spent more time there than any other country, foreign country, maybe. Agree. Do not give a shit about the royals.

9:28Speaker 2:I couldn't agree with you more.

9:29Speaker 1:The monarchy, do not care. Never have cared. Find it infuriating when the motorcycle is just swamped with these people who take all this money and do nothing. I just don't care. I'm just like.

9:43Speaker 2:Yeah.

9:43Speaker 1:So even like when people talk about The Queen, which I've heard is a fantastic show and I know I should watch it for the acting, whatever. I don't care. I just don't care. I'm like rich people. I don't care.

9:55Speaker 2:The actual institution of royals. Again, we're American. It's one of the reasons we fought the revolution is. So we don't have to care about the royals.

10:01Speaker 1:We don't have to care. So why do we care? I don't understand.

10:05Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't get it either. But I agree with you 100%. Love, love England so much.

10:11Speaker 1:All right, now that we've settled that, let's get into Totally 90s House.

10:15Speaker 2:Mom.

10:16Speaker 1:All right, we get our opening credits, Too Many Cooks style. Then we get Jaleel holding a cordless phone and he intros the episode, sends a page to Joey Lawrence to go check the mail because there's a VHS tape that says, play me. They put it into their VCRs while an info bubble pops up and tells us that the Lion King was the highest selling VHS tape of all time with 55 million copies sold.

10:42Speaker 2:I wouldn't have gotten that.

10:43Speaker 1:I wouldn't have gotten that either. The Lion King.

10:47Speaker 2:How do you hate the Lion King?

10:48Speaker 1:Oh, actually for a very similar reason. What's the message of the Lion King? Well, it's see what you were born to be.

10:55Speaker 2:Macbeth, isn't it?

10:56Speaker 4:Hamlet.

10:57Speaker 1:But Hamlet is complicated. He doesn't actually achieve the goal of revenge. It's just literally be what you were born to be. He's born to be, it's monarchy. He's born to be king. He goes off and lives a good life, Hakuna Matata. And then it's like, no, no, no, you got to go back and be what you were born to be. And so then he kills Scar and lives a good life as the king.

11:20Speaker 2:So you need a little Hakuna Matata in your life.

11:22Speaker 1:Hey, look, if the movie just ended with him doing Hakuna Matata, it'd be great.

11:27Speaker 2:He was taking his throne. He was taking his throne. Did you like The Little Mermaid?

11:30Speaker 1:I loved The Little Mermaid.

11:31Speaker 2:Yeah, The Little Mermaid was great.

11:32Speaker 1:The Little Mermaid's great. Also problematic in its own ways. Of course.

11:35Speaker 2:Well, she's like 14.

11:37Speaker 1:Yes, but the real story, the original Little Mermaid she dies at the end. She kills herself.

11:42Speaker 2:Oh, I didn't, I didn't even know it was a real story.

11:45Speaker 1:Oh, well, not a real, but yeah, like I've never seen the documentary about the little mermaid.

11:51Speaker 2:Yes.

11:51Speaker 1:No, it's a Hans Christian Anderson story. And it's so tragic because the whole idea is don't give up your voice for a man. Like the whole story is like, don't change who you are for the guy of your dreams because you're a teenager and Right. And, like, she's punished at the end, and she throws herself and turns to seafoam.

12:07Speaker 2:So it's the anti-Romeo and Juliet. Exactly.

12:09Speaker 1:Well, no, it's Romeo and Juliet, because Romeo and Juliet, they also die. Like, the point is, like, young love should not be taken so extreme, and don't, especially for a young woman, don't give up your boys. But then Disney Disney-fied it.

12:21Speaker 2:Of course.

12:21Speaker 1:Made it so, like, oh, she gets a happy ending. You're like, well, hold on.

12:25Speaker 2:That's not what it was about.

12:27Speaker 1:That's the whole point.

12:28Speaker 2:Of the story. Yeah.

12:28Speaker 1:All right. Enough, enough, enough. All right.

12:30Speaker 2:Sorry, sorry. Jaleel.

12:32Speaker 1:On the screen of their VCR, tells them that they have the main bedroom assignment, and they must choose one thing in the room to salvage, to upcycle, and keep it intact. And they have one week, and they will be judged on, same as last time, creativity, nod to the 90s, and overall design.

12:51Speaker 2:I'm sorry, do you think upcycle, do you think this is a real word? Yeah, I've heard it before.

12:55Speaker 1:Oh, you have? Okay, I've never heard this before.

12:56Speaker 2:I didn't know if they made this up for the show.

12:58Speaker 1:No, I've heard it before.

12:59Speaker 2:Okay, got to upcycle something.

13:01Speaker 1:Yeah, I like it. Yeah. I've also heard free cycle. Like if you leave something out on the street and somebody else takes it, that's like free cycling. Cause it's like, you know, recycling your old stuff. Someone else takes it.

13:13Speaker 4:Okay.

13:13Speaker 2:Yeah. Sounds stupid, Cycle.

13:15Speaker 1:All right, Team Curtains begins.

13:17Speaker 2:Team Curtains.

13:18Speaker 1:Take a look at their bedroom. They're going to change the flooring, the wall color, light fixture. They're going to add ceiling beams.

13:25Speaker 2:Smart.

13:26Speaker 1:Matt suggests a canopy bed to kind of keep the vibe of the old bed that was already there.

13:32Speaker 2:I thought that was a mistake myself, Mr.

13:33Speaker 4:Lawrence. Me too.

13:34Speaker 3:Canopy beds, unless you've got a big old room, your entire bed, your entire room becomes about the canopy bed, unless the room is huge.

13:41Speaker 2:Yeah.

13:42Speaker 1:That's your room.

13:43Speaker 2:It's that bed.

13:44Speaker 1:Which is what kind of happens.

13:45Speaker 2:Yes.

13:46Speaker 1:Because it's a small room.

13:48Speaker 2:Yes.

13:49Speaker 1:Yeah.

13:50Speaker 2:It's more open. It's like putting up walls for no reason.

13:52Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

13:53Speaker 1:Well, Keisha suggests taking the armoire and making it into a doorway.

13:58Speaker 2:Hot take so far, by the way. Keisha knows what she's doing.

14:01Speaker 1:She's the only one.

14:02Speaker 2:Like, actually knows what she's doing. I know. She's like, she could do this for a living, like, knows what she's doing.

14:08Speaker 1:She actually cares and is committing to this and making, I completely agree, dude.

14:13Speaker 2:Yeah.

14:13Speaker 1:And, you know, Carter, their expert, says as much. In this episode, he's like, oh, she's like a real person.

14:19Speaker 4:Yeah.

14:19Speaker 1:Like a real design person.

14:20Speaker 2:Ah! And I think Matt's actually very handy.

14:23Speaker 3:Like I think he's, he knows what he's doing, but where it's like, where she like, I think has the actual eye for this.

14:29Speaker 1:And Joey just wants to get a laugh. Yeah, Joe's there. Joe just wants to get a laugh.

14:33Speaker 2:Joe's me. He'd be me in the room, just like making a joke. Like, you know, yeah, yeah.

14:37Speaker 1:Headboard.

14:38Speaker 2:I didn't even know her. Like that'd be me the whole time.

14:42Speaker 1:So good. They head into the closet where they are going to replace the floors, put in some new built-ins. Doesn't seem like that different from what's already there.

14:52Speaker 2:Also, the big problem they had was apparently the attic.

14:55Speaker 1:Which we didn't even see in this first part. I was going to say, they didn't even talk about it, right?

14:59Speaker 2:No.

15:00Speaker 1:Okay.

15:00Speaker 3:So I feel like if that's the problem, it should have been kind of addressed by somebody.

15:05Speaker 2:The expert somebody should have been like, what are you guys going to do about that? Whatever it is. But the fact that we never even saw it as an audience and they're like, you know the big problem? is the literal elephant in the room. Like, wait, there was an elephant? Like, we didn't know about any of it?

15:18Speaker 1:I was expecting there to be like a painted elephant on the ceiling. Yes, something, yes.

15:21Speaker 4:What?

15:22Speaker 2:Yeah, but it was just all of a sudden, that's the big problem is the second floor. Like, wait, there's a second floor?

15:26Speaker 4:I know.

15:27Speaker 1:And you know that they couldn't do anything about it because it's like, that's probably their attic access. So they're like, we're not gonna block that or mess with that.

15:35Speaker 3:Yeah, and yeah, so from a, this had nothing to do with our hosts. I thought, frankly, from a television standpoint, Not mentioning something in the room that then becomes the big problem.

15:46Speaker 2:It was a weird storytelling point.

15:48Speaker 1:Really what they should have done is told the judges, hey, you know what? We never even shot the roof in this room. So like don't even have it as an option. Don't hold it against their team.

15:57Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. Like, yeah, I couldn't agree more.

15:59Speaker 1:All right, Team Mauve. They head into their room where the Vances match the comforter and the couch.

16:05Speaker 2:The more you're saying them out loud, these are terrible team names. I know.

16:08Speaker 1:And I don't even know what they refer to anymore.

16:09Speaker 3:Well, Mauve was the carpets in the house they picked, and curtains was the one because they had the curtains all over the house.

16:15Speaker 1:Right. But we're not even dealing with that anymore.

16:17Speaker 4:No.

16:17Speaker 1:So it's like we're not seeing those rooms.

16:19Speaker 4:No. Yeah.

16:20Speaker 2:Yeah.

16:21Speaker 1:They should have been able to pick their own team names, you know?

16:23Speaker 2:I think they did.

16:25Speaker 1:What?

16:25Speaker 2:I think they did. I think this is like, we're just going to call ourselves Team Mob.

16:28Speaker 1:But what they should have done is been able to pick their team name and have it be something from the 90s. Like, I'm Team Tetris. We're Team.

16:34Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, yeah, exactly.

16:35Speaker 1:You know, something fun, like... Froyo.

16:37Speaker 2:We're Team Froyo.

16:38Speaker 1:Yes, yes, whatever. Some 90s thing. It would have been more memorable.

16:43Speaker 2:There you go.

16:57Speaker 1:All right, they're going to do wood floors, put in some different curtains and create a recessed arch for the bed. Then they're going to have custom built-in cabinets also in their closet with a little seating area, which I think is nice. Team Curtains finds hardwood floors under their carpet. This is like the most 90s thing so far. Like, why would you carpet over.

17:21Speaker 2:And you find that occasionally, too, where it's like you rip up the carpet and you're like, oh, my God, it's, you know, hand hewn oak. Yeah.

17:29Speaker 1:It's like the perfect thing. Yeah. And they just covered it up for 30 years or whatever.

17:33Speaker 3:Interesting what the expert says to him, where he's like, don't don't get it.

17:38Speaker 2:Don't get into polishing this.

17:39Speaker 3:I once polished a floor for a week and it never got to where I wanted to, which is weird.

17:43Speaker 2:That's like. So what do you do?

17:44Speaker 1:That's what I mean. They never really followed up on what they did do then.

17:48Speaker 2:Well, no. Yeah, they did those little interlocking pieces.

17:50Speaker 4:Remember?

17:50Speaker 3:He's like, this is really easy to drop down.

17:52Speaker 1:They kind of covered it?

17:53Speaker 3:They covered it over. Remember, Keisha's putting them in there. She's like, my dad's a contractor. So they once again covered it with worse flooring.

18:03Speaker 2:Cause it's like the really thin interlocking.

18:06Speaker 3:Flooring as opposed to like a good, what the flooring that was there. But I can see again, this is, see, this is where the time of how much time they have is detrimental to the actual.

18:16Speaker 4:Yeah.

18:16Speaker 3:Because it's like, look at this beautiful. Well, that's going to take 10 days. Well, you can't have the beautiful hardwood floors that are already there. You've got to go into your budget to buy worse hardwood floors.

18:25Speaker 2:Cause we don't have the time to do this.

18:27Speaker 3:So yeah, that's, that's where I was like, yeah, this is, I, if I was the homeowner, I'd be like, I want the hardwood floors.

18:32Speaker 4:Yeah.

18:33Speaker 1:Do the actual work.

18:34Speaker 4:Yeah, exactly.

18:35Speaker 1:Take the time.

18:35Speaker 2:Do it.

18:37Speaker 1:All right. Day two. Team Mob is done with their demo. Sabrina, their expert, checks in. And this is when I was like, this room is very small.

18:46Speaker 2:Yeah.

18:46Speaker 1:Just looking at it with her. And once it was empty, it was like, there's not much to do here. They are going to upcycle the rocker.

18:54Speaker 2:Love that.

18:55Speaker 1:Brian says he might try and build something. I wasn't sure what this was. I guess it turns out to be the headboard.

19:01Speaker 2:Yeah.

19:02Speaker 1:Sabrina tells them to utilize the closet. And then Carter comes to visit team curtains, uh, where they are caught with actual curtains that they do a little dance behind.

19:14Speaker 2:Yeah.

19:14Speaker 1:Uh, he takes it away from them.

19:16Speaker 2:They look like, it looked like those, those, uh, you know, the guy who like is the main, the real guy in front and he's got four puppets on the same string for every time he moves. That's what it looked like to me. It looked like that. Yep.

19:27Speaker 1:Uh, and this is where he says, do not touch those hardwood floors.

19:31Speaker 4:Yeah.

19:32Speaker 1:Uh, they discuss Feng Shui. Matt Lawrence says they're supposed to be facing East, but then doesn't know which way is East.

19:40Speaker 2:I'm the same way. I couldn't tell you East right now if there's a gun in my head.

19:43Speaker 4:Yeah.

19:43Speaker 2:Really? Oh God, no. I'm one of those people.

19:46Speaker 3:The meme I saw was that I always love is where it's like, all right, then when you get to that street, go West. And the person answers, okay, easy there, Magellan. Is it a left or a right at the Roy Rogers? Which is like, that's me. It's like, Taco Bell, left or right? Don't give me east or west or anything.

20:01Speaker 1:You're like my wife. She can't. Directions. No, I can pretty much always know where north is.

20:06Speaker 2:But there's also the 101 north and the 101 east, which are apparently the same thing.

20:11Speaker 1:Yes, at different times.

20:12Speaker 2:Yeah, so what does that mean?

20:13Speaker 1:But you don't really keep track of which way you're facing at any given moment?

20:17Speaker 2:No idea where I'm facing, ever.

20:18Speaker 1:What about your house? When you're in your house, do you know which way is north?

20:22Speaker 2:No. No. Wow. God, no. You know where North is in your house? Yes.

20:27Speaker 1:Absolutely.

20:28Speaker 2:I have no idea where North is. No. God, no. You want me to go North? Straight up.

20:33Speaker 1:That's North.

20:34Speaker 2:Straight up. That's North.

20:35Speaker 1:That's funny, man.

20:37Speaker 2:No idea.

20:37Speaker 1:None. This is one of those things I'm like trying to drill into Indy because I think it's you have to just learn it and then like start.

20:44Speaker 4:For what?

20:44Speaker 1:So you know where you are in the world.

20:46Speaker 2:Oh, please.

20:46Speaker 1:It's a good skill to just know which way you're facing.

20:49Speaker 2:How often you need to know that it's like, thank God I know where West is. Come on. Always. Never.

20:54Speaker 1:Always.

20:55Speaker 2:Your Uber driver knows where they're going.

20:57Speaker 1:Oh, my God.

20:59Speaker 2:You live a privileged life, my friend. Cause of all the times you needed to know it. Well, I guess with you camping and stuff, you'll need to know.

21:06Speaker 3:When's the last time that you actually needed to know a direction when you were like lost and when you're like, I got to know where North is.

21:11Speaker 2:I got to know true North. Yeah.

21:13Speaker 1:I mean, backpacking all the time. That's all you're doing. Yes.

21:16Speaker 2:Constantly.

21:17Speaker 1:You're looking at a map, especially when you're going, you have no cell service, you're out there. So what last backpacking trip month and a half ago, we're constantly looking at a map and talking about which way is North and figuring it out.

21:28Speaker 2:And like, yeah.

21:29Speaker 1:Nope. But I like even just knowing in any given city or situation, pretty much I need to know where north. This is like, yeah, because my GPS in my car, I always like the north to be up.

21:43Speaker 2:You can change the direction of your GPS in your car?

21:46Speaker 1:Well, normally, a lot of people like their GPS to show them where they're going as up.

21:51Speaker 2:Okay.

21:52Speaker 1:So where you're going straight, like the map orients to where you're headed is like straight ahead.

21:57Speaker 2:That's how it should be. Right.

21:59Speaker 1:No, I like to know that no matter where, like the map is, north is always up.

22:04Speaker 2:So you'll be looking at your GPS and your directions.

22:08Speaker 1:Are taking you like sideways?

22:09Speaker 4:Yes.

22:12Speaker 1:You want to know where you are actually in the world?

22:14Speaker 2:I do not. I want to know the fastest way to get to wherever the hell I'm going straight ahead of me.

22:19Speaker 1:That's so funny. All right, team Mova starts priming their walls for the lime wash. Jodi admits she never watched Seventh Heaven. Which, I just love this moment. All these actors, we all know each other, never watched each other's shows. No!

22:35Speaker 2:Have you ever seen, have you seen Seventh Heaven?

22:37Speaker 1:Never in my life.

22:38Speaker 2:Have you seen Full House?

22:40Speaker 1:Oh, just for Pod Meets World. Same.

22:42Speaker 3:So, and I'm guessing neither of them watched Boy Meets World. No, no, of course not.

22:47Speaker 2:This is what we did.

22:48Speaker 4:Yeah.

22:50Speaker 2:I watched 90210.

22:51Speaker 1:Okay.

22:52Speaker 2:I watched 90210 because I was, that was young, young.

22:54Speaker 1:I watched 90210 before.

22:56Speaker 2:Me too.

22:57Speaker 1:Before Boy Meets World.

22:58Speaker 2:Because I think that started in the 80s. It started like 89, 90. Yeah.

23:01Speaker 1:It was super early on. Yeah.

23:03Speaker 2:That's why. So I watched too.

23:04Speaker 1:No, by the time we were working, I never watched anybody's shows, but it's so funny because we all know each other.

23:10Speaker 2:Yep.

23:11Speaker 1:We all kind of have an idea of, but it's only since doing the podcast that I really have figured out like what people did on their shows. You know, like Christine Lakin. Like I knew she was one of the girls on Step by Step. But I was like, you were like a tomboy. That was your character. And she's like, yeah.

23:30Speaker 2:So then Stacey was the smart one.

23:32Speaker 1:I have no idea.

23:33Speaker 2:Yeah. I think Stacey was the smart one. Again, I never watched it either. That's so funny. Yeah. All right.

23:41Speaker 1:Team Mauve Brian is calling the other team and just annoying them, leaving messages. They all start jumping in with prank calls.

23:50Speaker 2:It's pretty funny.

23:51Speaker 1:Yeah. They're putting in cleats for their beams over at Team Curtains. Team Mauve makes their headboard, and Team Curtains gets their messages, which turn out to be 42 messages.

24:06Speaker 3:Do you believe that to be true, or do you think they just did that for the joke? Like, do you think there's actually 42 messages or do you think that they just played a couple of messages and then cut them up to make it look like they.

24:16Speaker 2:Called and called and called and called and called?

24:18Speaker 1:I hope they called and called and called.

24:19Speaker 2:I hope they called 42 times. Yeah, I do too.

24:21Speaker 1:I mean, I would feel like that's pretty low reality editing if they actually did that. Because like even just saying like 12 would have been enough.

24:28Speaker 2:Would have been fun, but they just kept going.

24:29Speaker 1:All right.

24:30Speaker 3:But here's my question because it leads me to this. If they have enough time to make 42 prank calls.

24:35Speaker 2:How much of the actual physical work do you think they're actually doing on this show?

24:39Speaker 1:Zero.

24:41Speaker 2:Between zero and 5%?

24:43Speaker 1:I think what we see them physically do is all they do.

24:45Speaker 2:Is all they do. Yeah, that makes sense. Because again, you need a whole crew to come in.

24:48Speaker 1:Well, did you notice the time lapse?

24:50Speaker 2:Where everywhere, there's a whole crew of guys coming in and doing, yeah, yeah, yeah, cutting out the recess thing, and yeah.

24:55Speaker 1:So it was kind of like, where are the actors when those guys are coming in? It's all time lapse, and you're like, so it's very interesting what they're deciding to like, have them do or have them not do. I mean, I guess it makes sense.

25:07Speaker 2:I also bet there's, there'd be like, I could see Matt Lawrence.

25:11Speaker 1:Absolutely.

25:12Speaker 3:Knowing Matt, I can see him going to the crew and be like, I want to help. Like, what do I, he'd say like this.

25:18Speaker 4:Oh, sure.

25:18Speaker 2:What do I got to help? Like, what can I do? What can I, what can I do? Yeah. And them being like, no, thanks. Like, no, we got 14 guys here. They're going to do it fast.

25:27Speaker 3:But I could see a lot of them being like, no, I want to, I want to help do this. And them being like, no, we're not going to let you help do that.

25:33Speaker 1:I bet you they're probably putting in four to six hours a day.

25:38Speaker 4:Okay.

25:39Speaker 2:Of a week.

25:39Speaker 4:Okay.

25:41Speaker 1:And then I bet the crew is finishing up whatever they can finish in four to six hours a day. And the crew is there for another eight hours.

25:48Speaker 2:Yeah. With the help of somebody, it's like, we're going to go pick the curtains or we're going to pick the upholstery or we're going to do that kind of stuff. Right.

25:55Speaker 1:Right. The part that I really wonder about is the like staging, like the actual furniture and Because like, especially with this one, it's team curtains. I feel like they didn't really do much. I mean, they put the beams in the ceiling.

26:09Speaker 2:Right.

26:09Speaker 1:But then it's like just furniture choices. And we didn't get to see them pick the furniture. No. So I'm like, so who's doing that?

26:17Speaker 2:Yeah.

26:18Speaker 1:Like, who's actually shopping for that?

26:19Speaker 2:Are they?

26:20Speaker 1:Is it like, I don't know. I'm assuming there's like a set deck team that's just kind of taking direction from them.

26:25Speaker 4:Yeah.

26:26Speaker 2:Interesting.

26:27Speaker 4:Yeah.

26:27Speaker 1:Jodi and Beverly work on a decoupage. Decoupage?

26:31Speaker 2:Decoupage.

26:35Speaker 1:They're going to make a wall of decoupage in the closet, taking old family photos, cutting them into a collage. Yeah, I didn't think of this as like a 90s thing, but I guess it is.

26:45Speaker 2:Sure.

26:45Speaker 1:Decoupage? Yeah, okay. I guess so.

26:47Speaker 2:But isn't, I think scrapbooking and all that stuff is still really big.

26:50Speaker 1:Yeah, and collage is always collage.

26:52Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe decoupage was big in the 90s.

26:55Speaker 1:Matt works on the wardrobe with Carter. Keisha and Joey come out and add some pressure. There's only one of these armoires to chop up.

27:04Speaker 2:Armoire.

27:07Speaker 1:Have a croissant with your armoire.

27:08Speaker 2:Have a croissant in the armoire.

27:25Speaker 1:Matt tells Joe he's got to leave. Yeah, which is great.

27:28Speaker 2:You can leave.

27:30Speaker 1:And then Matt cuts. And Carter says he's got skills.

27:34Speaker 2:He's got some skills. I can see that.

27:36Speaker 1:Sabrina checks in on Team Mauve. Their closet is looking good with a decoupage. Their arch is looking good. Carter works with Keisha and says she knows a ton about design.

27:48Speaker 2:And you can tell. She knows what she's doing. Yeah.

27:50Speaker 1:He asks her about growing up on TV. She says she never knew a time without it because she started at nine months old. She's a lifer. She's a lifer.

27:59Speaker 2:Yeah. She was through with it before we knew what to do with it.

28:02Speaker 1:Yeah, totally. But it's cool that she has such an active curiosity and interest in other things and has clearly made a life for herself outside of acting and not just, you know.

28:12Speaker 2:And is still acting, I think.

28:14Speaker 1:Yeah. Her life doesn't begin and end with the fact that she's a TV actor, which is always interesting. The healthiest thing to see a kid actor do.

28:21Speaker 2:We got to talk to her. We got to talk to her.

28:23Speaker 1:Team Curtains heads to the fabric store. Keisha says shopping with the Lawrence brothers is like herding cats. I believe this.

28:31Speaker 4:Yep.

28:32Speaker 1:I have traveled with them.

28:33Speaker 2:Yep. I've done it. I've done it too. It's absolutely true.

28:36Speaker 1:They're doing bits. Possibly doing bits. It's very fun to be around actually.

28:40Speaker 2:Ton of fun to be around.

28:40Speaker 1:Yep. But probably frustrating if you're actually trying to get a job done.

28:44Speaker 2:Yeah.

28:45Speaker 1:But ton of fun to be around. Because she is genuinely focused and interested in the project. All right. Team Bob works on their rocking chair. Brian is using tools. He's got a sander. He's got a multi-tool. He's got all kinds of things.

28:57Speaker 2:Yeah.

28:58Speaker 1:It's cool. And then it's judgment day. Brian and Mika are the judges. They are from 100 Day Dreamhouse.

29:07Speaker 2:Sure.

29:08Speaker 1:I do not know this.

29:09Speaker 2:I think it was also Barbie Dreamhouse. I heard somebody say it. Sure. In my head, it is literally a Barbie Dreamhouse. Where they make a No, where they have the regular Barbie dream house and they have to redesign the tiny little Barbie dream house. That's a great idea. It's not we have to make a full-size house. It's literally the toy. There you go.

29:30Speaker 3:Redesign the toy. Like that would be the best thing ever. That show I would watch.

29:34Speaker 1:That's actually a great idea to do something with dollhouses and real houses. Like you have to make a dollhouse. of a real house or vice versa.

29:41Speaker 2:Or vice versa. See, that's a good idea. That's a good idea.

29:44Speaker 3:There was a great show that James May, one of the hosts of, um, of Top Gear, which is one of my favorite shows where he did this whole thing with.

29:51Speaker 2:Toys where it was like, Like matchbox cars?

29:55Speaker 3:Yeah, but like actually racing them or how do you get a matchbox car to go the real, like how, 60 miles an hour, like all these cool things.

30:02Speaker 2:That was really awesome. Yeah, so fun show.

30:05Speaker 1:They love the headboard. They love the arch. They love the lime wash. Don't love the hanging pendant lights.

30:13Speaker 2:They're too far out.

30:14Speaker 1:Closet is... I will say, genuinely amazing.

30:18Speaker 2:Yeah, incredible.

30:18Speaker 1:I thought this one, they made a huge difference. Yep. Brian does point out that the decoupage is not lit the way that the other things are lit.

30:26Speaker 2:Light your decoupage, people.

30:28Speaker 1:These built-ins with the closets are really well done. And we never saw them working on this. So I feel like this is just the crew that comes in. They're like the closet crew. It's like, we know how to just put it. Because the lighting is so good that I want them to come in and do my closet. Whoever... Those closets like that. Cause my closet doesn't look like that. And I want it to.

30:46Speaker 4:Yeah.

30:47Speaker 1:I want to walk in. That's that beautiful.

30:49Speaker 2:California closets. They're pretty great.

30:50Speaker 4:My God.

30:51Speaker 1:Then Brian and Mika head to team curtains. They like the beams, but, uh, could have added some color. They say, which I agree. The beams are just kind of like.

31:00Speaker 2:Uh, there.

31:02Speaker 4:Yeah.

31:02Speaker 1:I thought there would be like wood beams, like actually exposed wood.

31:06Speaker 2:I thought so too.

31:07Speaker 4:Right.

31:07Speaker 2:Yeah.

31:08Speaker 3:So it was, it looked a little more medieval is the wrong word, but Tudor, I guess, uh, Or something.

31:14Speaker 2:Rustic.

31:14Speaker 1:Rustic, right? It's just a little more rustic style.

31:16Speaker 2:Whiteboards.

31:17Speaker 1:And it could have been pickled wood, so it would have been more 90s, like that lighter wood that we saw in the last. But I don't know.

31:23Speaker 2:Pickled wood. Yeah.

31:25Speaker 1:They do love the armoire update.

31:27Speaker 2:Armoire. Armoire.

31:29Speaker 1:What do you say? Armoire.

31:33Speaker 2:No, that's armoire.

31:36Speaker 1:Brian does think the bed should be facing the window. They should have figured out which way was East. Cause guess what you did? You screwed the pooch, Matt Lawrence.

31:46Speaker 2:Take a left, Matt. Just take a left. It's not North or South. It's a left at the Taco Bell.

31:50Speaker 1:And then this closet update is just okay.

31:53Speaker 2:Not like the other one. The other one is pretty, yeah.

31:56Speaker 1:So it seems pretty obvious to me at this point.

31:58Speaker 2:I agree.

31:59Speaker 1:The winner's going to be Team Mob.

32:00Speaker 2:I agree. I also thought the four-poster bed was too much. It overpowered the room.

32:04Speaker 1:Overpowered the room.

32:05Speaker 2:Yep.

32:05Speaker 1:I did like having a little couch or love seat at the base of the bed. Oh, I love that. Big fan of that. Because I don't have anywhere to sit in my bedroom. And sometimes I'm like... Having a place to sit in your bedroom makes sense.

32:16Speaker 3:Sue and I had a problem with this where when we had our room redone and we had a couch at the end that was our old dog's couch.

32:22Speaker 2:It was beat to hell, this thing.

32:25Speaker 1:Your old dog's couch?

32:26Speaker 3:Yeah, but he loved it. And it's where he slept. Well, because he would sleep with us, but sometimes he's like, yeah, it's too hot. And he would go to his couch and he loved it at his best. And we couldn't move it for a while because we lost him and we hated it. But it also gave us a place to sit. And then for a while, we had nothing. And I was like, I had nowhere to put my clothes. I had nowhere to sit down and put on my shoes. And so one of our sponsors from Podme's World, Article.

32:49Speaker 1:Yes, Article. Yeah, that's right. We got to pick out stuff from Article.

32:52Speaker 3:Yeah, we got to pick out stuff from Article. So we picked this beautiful bench that goes at the foot of our bed.

32:56Speaker 2:Use it every day. Every single day. It's the greatest.

32:58Speaker 1:It's such a nice touch. I don't have room for it in my, like my bed goes, you know, like I just wouldn't have room, but I kind of love the idea. It's great. Yeah. I need some seating. Yeah.

33:07Speaker 2:And again, use it every single day.

33:10Speaker 1:All right. Winter announcement time. No brainer.

33:13Speaker 2:Yeah.

33:13Speaker 1:To me, they talk about how weird it is to be judging sitcom actors. Mika says she had some of the brother's. on her walls. Brian says he did too.

33:23Speaker 2:I might've too.

33:24Speaker 1:I might've too. Not to make it awkward. I love it. Uh, and then they assess the teams. Uh, they love the Greek touches with mauve. They thought the rocker went a long way. The deco page. And then teamed curtains. The space was open. Great upcycling project. Nod to the nineties. They liked the patterns that were kind of a nod to the nineties, I guess. Obviously, Team Mob wins. No surprise there. And yeah, where to next? Are we ever going to do the living room?

33:58Speaker 2:No.

33:58Speaker 1:Are we just going to do bathrooms next?

34:00Speaker 2:I bet you it's going to be kitchen, bathroom, bedroom.

34:04Speaker 1:That'd be my guess.

34:04Speaker 2:That's it? Maybe living room.

34:06Speaker 1:So what, one more episode? How many more episodes do we have? Six total, right?

34:09Speaker 2:There's six total, right? Yeah, and we've already done- And we're.

34:11Speaker 1:Only three in.

34:12Speaker 2:We're three in.

34:12Speaker 1:They've got to do the living room.

34:14Speaker 2:You think?

34:14Speaker 1:They've got to do the living room.

34:15Speaker 4:Okay. Yeah.

34:17Speaker 1:Five weeks- They're basically getting a week for each.

34:20Speaker 4:Right.

34:21Speaker 2:Each room. So bathroom, next. That's week four.

34:25Speaker 4:All right.

34:25Speaker 2:So maybe living room and one other thing, maybe an outside, something like a patio or something. Yeah.

34:30Speaker 4:I don't know.

34:32Speaker 1:I'm wow. More importantly, I'm wow.

34:38Speaker 2:I'm wow.

34:39Speaker 1:Let's talk about.

34:41Speaker 2:The Little Mermaid more.

34:43Speaker 1:Yeah, Little Mermaid. You know why it's the best one? Best songs. Best songs of any Disney movie. Hands.

34:50Speaker 2:Oh, Beauty and the Beast had some great songs. Beauty and the Beast had some bangers.

34:54Speaker 1:But no.

34:55Speaker 2:Yeah, no. Again, I'm not disagreeing.

34:58Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. It's just the songs are so good.

35:01Speaker 2:Under the Sea, Kiss the Girl. There were some great ones.

35:04Speaker 1:Kiss the Girl is like etched in my soul. I had the VHS. I would watch it over and over again just because I loved the song so much.

35:12Speaker 2:But Lion King had some great songs. I mean, that opening number is phenomenal.

35:17Speaker 1:I just can't wait to be king.

35:18Speaker 2:No.

35:19Speaker 1:It sucks so bad.

35:20Speaker 2:You don't like the subject matter, but the song.

35:24Speaker 1:Yeah. That song was wonderful. Phenomenal.

35:27Speaker 2:Did you see the whole thing that took place on the comedian that got sued because of that?

35:34Speaker 1:No.

35:34Speaker 2:What?

35:34Speaker 3:So a comedian went on, this only happened like a couple months ago. He went on a very popular podcast, an African, I believe he's African, comedian. And said, do you know what those words mean? It means, hey, wow, it's a lion. Oh my God, a lion.

35:52Speaker 2:And everyone's like, that cannot be what it means.

35:55Speaker 3:And the original songwriter heard him say that on a podcast and sued him, this comedian.

36:00Speaker 2:And it became a big thing. It was like all over the- Why?

36:02Speaker 1:Because it's not what's on there?

36:04Speaker 2:Yeah, so Lebo M, who is, I guess, the composer- sued Learn More Jonasy for $ 27 million over a podcast joke, translating it. And he goes like, it says, look, there's a lion.

36:20Speaker 1:Oh my God.

36:21Speaker 2:It's a lion. And the guy literally sued him for $ 27 million. I think it's still going on. $ 27 million.

36:28Speaker 1:Oh my God. What, I mean, like, I think we should decide right now. We should, I want to get sued for something as ridiculous as that. What can we say, translate- And we just have to say it with authority.

36:42Speaker 2:Just making up a translation.

36:47Speaker 1:So what is there? We need something in a foreign language.

36:49Speaker 2:And something that was really important to kids. That's the difference. It's something like, oh, dude, actually what Optimus Prime said was, it's like that kind of thing. But yeah, you should watch that whole clip because it's insane. Because the first clip is hysterical. And then it was, I thought the second clip was a joke where he's like, I'm getting sued for $ 27 million. And it's absolutely true.

37:10Speaker 4:Wow.

37:11Speaker 2:Yep.

37:11Speaker 4:Crazy.

37:12Speaker 2:How did you feel about the Hunchback of Notre Dame? I feel like that's overlooked.

37:17Speaker 1:I remember seeing it in the theater and actually kind of being into it, but I haven't seen it since.

37:21Speaker 2:I haven't either.

37:22Speaker 1:So I have no idea.

37:23Speaker 2:How about Pocahontas?

37:25Speaker 1:Never saw it.

37:25Speaker 2:Never saw it. Okay. I'm not sure I saw Pocahontas either.

37:28Speaker 1:Never saw it.

37:29Speaker 4:Yeah.

37:30Speaker 1:I have a poem to play for you about Pocahontas.

37:32Speaker 4:Okay.

37:33Speaker 2:Are we going to get sued? Probably.

37:34Speaker 1:Probably. This is a great professor. Well, actually, I didn't have him directly, but he taught in my MFA program named Ed Ochester, and he has since died, but I got to see him read this poem.

37:51Speaker 4:This is called Pocahontas. Pocahontas. Disney didn't tell you that when she first slept with Captain Smith, she was 12 years old, and at that time, organized nude dancing by her young friends for the delectation of the colonists. If this disturbs you deeply, you're probably beyond help. You should go to Orlando and stand in line for three hours in the rain. Take a snapshot of Goofy. Oh, two other things. In colonial Virginia, the age of sexual consent was 10. And if you eat of the fruit of Disney, you will die.

38:51Speaker 2:Oh, my God.

38:53Speaker 1:Isn't that amazing?

38:55Speaker 2:How is that a poem? It's a poem. How?

38:58Speaker 1:We're going to get into this.

38:59Speaker 2:But I'm honestly asking because I don't know. Isn't that just him reading a bunch of, how is that a poem? Because I don't understand poetry. So how is that a poem?

39:06Speaker 1:He called it a poem. Whatever you want to call a poem.

39:08Speaker 2:Yes.

39:09Speaker 1:You call it a poem. You say, I'm going to write this thing and it's going to be a poem. Yeah.

39:14Speaker 2:And that's it.

39:14Speaker 4:Okay.

39:14Speaker 2:Again, I'm truly asking because I don't know what, because to me, nothing rhymed. There wasn't any stanzas. It was just him reading five lines.

39:21Speaker 1:There are stanzas. There are stanzas. Like if you actually look at it, he has it on the page written out a certain with the breaks and the pauses in certain spots. So there are stanzas but no it's free verse you know that's the whole thing it's like poetry used to be codified more and then throughout the you know centuries it's just gotten less and less form until now it's like basically whatever anybody wants to.

39:43Speaker 2:Call a poem they can call a poem gotcha you.

39:45Speaker 1:Know, it's just whether it's successful or not is kind of up to the listeners to decide like, oh, that, you know, I love that poem. Cause it's, when he first read it, I remember sitting in there and just being like, oh God, like it, like your reaction, like, oh, cool. And then he, you know, just keeps turning and becoming more sort of horrifying. And then it becomes a, you know, pretty damning. Wow. Well, we've gone, we've gone quite far afield.

40:09Speaker 2:Yeah. So what about the curtains or what happened to team curtains? Yeah.

40:14Speaker 1:You've been listening to Pod Meets World. They say you can't go home again.

40:17Speaker 2:They're right.

40:18Speaker 1:But apparently you can renovate it, fill it with all your old stuff, and spend several hours arguing about whether things were actually better back in the day. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. Until next time, trap your smoke in.