Magical Rewind: A Knight in Camelot

0:14Speaker 1:Hi, Sabrina.

0:15Speaker 2:Hi, Will.

0:17Speaker 1:Have you ever been to Ingaland, which is how it's pronounced properly? I have.

0:21Speaker 2:I've gotten a chance to go on. Have you ever heard of, what is it, Blue Peter? It's like a famous show that's like a kid's show. And it's like a really big deal. You get like a pin and like it's a big deal there. So that's the main time that I've gone there. The other times have just been traveling through there, maybe spend one day. Like when we went on to our honeymoon, we stayed there for a day. Then moved on to Barcelona. So it was like, I feel like that specific time, it was over Valentine's Day.

0:51Speaker 2:We got to go do like so much fun stuff with the show and all that.

0:54Speaker 1:It was magical.

0:55Speaker 2:I really love England, but I know I do not love England nearly as much as Mike Ojo's will.

1:03Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. England is one of my favorites. That's like your favorite.

1:06Speaker 3:We'd eventually like to spend close to half the year in London if we could.

1:10Speaker 1:Or the Cotswolds. Probably the Cotswolds. So we're there. We love it. Yeah, it's an amazing place. I know.

1:16Speaker 2:Next time I go, Jordan's like, we are going without you hounding Will on the hot spots to eat.

1:23Speaker 1:And all that kind of stuff. Yeah, all that.

1:24Speaker 3:But I'll be honest with you, this entire conversation, the only thing I'm going to take away is all the weird imagery and funny jokes I didn't say when you said Blue Peter.

1:34Speaker 1:So I think I'm growing. I think it's Blue Pete, by the way.

1:38Speaker 2:I don't think it's Blue Peter.

1:39Speaker 1:Okay, that's better. Because Blue Peter sounds like... Again, I'm going to, nope, not going to say anything. Not going to say anything.

1:45Speaker 3:Disney, welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you want to grab your friends, your PJs, and your popcorn and go back to a time when all the houses were.

1:52Speaker 1:Smart, the wave tsunamis, and the high school's musical. I'm Will Friedle.

1:56Speaker 2:And I'm Sabrina Bryan. Good morning.

1:58Speaker 1:Good morning. Hear ye, hear ye, by decree of the crown, I don't know why I'm Scottish, all noble knights, fair maidens, jesters, squires, and assorted peasants are hereby summoned to the court because it's time to talk about Disney's 1998 Mark Twain adaptation, A Knight in Camelot, spelled with a K, guys, which, again, get it? A Knight in Camelot. Anyway, what do you know about Mr.

2:21Speaker 4:Twain?

2:21Speaker 1:Have you read any of his books?

2:23Speaker 2:Yeah, I think like in school. Not for like fun.

2:27Speaker 1:You got to read Mark Twain again as an adult. I swear to God, it takes time.

2:30Speaker 3:Like if there is ever a person built for something like Twitter or whatever it's called now, X-Files, whatever the hell it is.

2:40Speaker 1:Yeah. It's somebody like Mark Twain.

2:42Speaker 3:Back when it was still just about being fun and pithy, you know, as opposed to the cesspool that it is nowadays.

2:49Speaker 1:Yes. Mark Twain is the man.

2:52Speaker 2:Really?

2:52Speaker 1:Oh, my God.

2:53Speaker 2:Give me an example.

2:55Speaker 1:You can't. You've got to go read. Just go back and read. He's so genius.

3:00Speaker 2:As far as just having one-liners. I'll be honest. I was never really into Twitter that much.

3:07Speaker 1:No, I wasn't either.

3:08Speaker 2:I went on it. because that's what you did when you were, you know, trying to keep your stuff going with social media as it was rising. Right, right. But I quickly veered from it because it became so negative. What is it? Do you mean because it's like one-liners? Because that's what I think of with Twitter. Just like really cool, like either quotes or like slapbacks.

3:29Speaker 3:Incredible quotes and incredible, let's see, there is no unhappiness like the misery of sighting land and work again after a cheerful, careless voyage.

3:38Speaker 4:Okay. Ugh.

3:39Speaker 1:It is just.

3:41Speaker 2:But then it's like if a regular person put that, it'd be like, ooh, what kind of tea is happening there? What voyage went down the wrong path?

3:51Speaker 1:Exactly. Show me the tea.

3:52Speaker 2:What happened?

3:52Speaker 1:What happened? Right. Yeah.

3:55Speaker 2:Oh, that's cool. I love this.

3:57Speaker 1:Be good and you will be lonesome. Oh, so sad. So sad.

4:03Speaker 4:Again.

4:03Speaker 1:It's just so great. Now and then we had a hope. Blink your eyes if you're okay.

4:07Speaker 3:Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and we were good, God would permit us to be pirates.

4:12Speaker 1:Oh, so cool. Yeah.

4:15Speaker 3:So, I mean, he just, he had so many, uh, here's a guy with courage. You will dare to take risks, have the strength to be compassionate and the wisdom to be humble. Courage is the foundation of integrity.

4:29Speaker 1:Oh, Yeah.

4:30Speaker 3:So he's amazing. And he's also, you know, a Connecticut boy. So obviously very.

4:34Speaker 2:All right.

4:35Speaker 3:Started started down south, but spent most of his like like Mark Twain houses where we'd always go in Hartford for our.

4:41Speaker 1:Our school class trips.

4:42Speaker 2:Oh, that's cool.

4:43Speaker 1:So, yeah, Mark Twain was very important.

4:45Speaker 2:But that's awesome. See, I wish I had because this was just like an author of books that we were mandated to read versus. If you had like a connection because you were able to go visit stuff like that would be very cool.

4:58Speaker 1:I love that. It was really, really cool. And he was obviously, we're going to give you a little breakdown on Mr. Twain.

5:02Speaker 3:He was born Samuel Langholm Clemens in 1835. I believe he was born in the, this is the other thing is he was like born in the year of Halley's Comet and then said something like, I'm going to, I forget. There's a whole thing about it where he like was born and died on the year of Halley's Comet.

5:18Speaker 1:So it was pretty amazing.

5:21Speaker 3:He drew heavily from his experiences growing up along the Mississippi, M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I river, eventually turning them into classics like The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

5:30Speaker 1:But Twain was more than a novelist.

5:31Speaker 3:He was a journalist, lecturer, and master satirist who used humor to take aim at everything from politics and social conventions to greed and human nature. And this movie is a take on his 1889 book, I was only 12, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.

5:48Speaker 1:I wasn't 12 in 1889.

5:49Speaker 2:I was like.

5:51Speaker 1:I was only eight.

5:53Speaker 2:I am paying attention. I just can't see you, but I am reading right along with you.

5:59Speaker 1:There you go.

6:00Speaker 3:This is a big connection between the author and Disney, but hardly the only one. Most famously, there's a Mark Twain riverboat and a Tom Sawyer Island at Disneyland, which was opened in 1955. Walt Disney was fascinated with 19th century Americana, so he built a big steamwheeler To cruise the rivers of Americana and a play place island for kids and gave them Twain inspired names.

6:23Speaker 2:By the way, he got his best memories on Twain's Island. I have the best.

6:27Speaker 3:By the way, he was on a steamboat in a riverboat when he picked his name because he was Samuel Clemens. But they would say when they were doing the depth and length of the river, they'd mark it. So they go Mark one, Mark Twain, which is two. So he heard Mark Twain and he picked the.

6:42Speaker 1:Name, which I think is really cool.

6:43Speaker 2:That's so cool.

6:45Speaker 3:Were you ever allowed to steer the Mark Twain riverboat, which is a big deal.

6:48Speaker 1:At the park?

6:50Speaker 2:No, I did not know that.

6:52Speaker 1:Yeah, because she didn't earn it. Sometimes you got to earn it, Sabrina.

6:56Speaker 2:No, I bet you it's literally just knowing. So many things at Disneyland is just knowing to ask.

7:02Speaker 5:Right, right, right.

7:02Speaker 2:And they'll do, they'll like, oh, there's just so many things that it's like you just ask a cast member and they're like, absolutely, come this way. And you're like, Wow.

7:11Speaker 3:Did I tell you one of the coolest things I ever got to do is they brought us backstage at Big Thunder Mountain Railroad.

7:17Speaker 1:Okay.

7:18Speaker 3:And the ride was broken down for like 10 minutes. So they let me do the announcements.

7:22Speaker 1:And the voice.

7:23Speaker 3:I was going like, sorry, folks, looks like the ride's not going to be working for.

7:26Speaker 1:A little while. I got to do the voiceover and I was just making it up as I went along. It was so cool.

7:32Speaker 4:Yeah.

7:32Speaker 1:I love that. Really, really great. They let me steer the boat because at the time they were sad for me because I was dealing with Blue Peter. A Night in Camelot first aired.

7:42Speaker 2:On November 8th, 1998 as part of ABC's Wonderful World of Disney series, which always means a bigger budget than your typical DCOM fair.

8:00Speaker 3:And we usually see that type of spending with a more star studded cast. But here it's never been more evident than with its shooting location. So, of course, we always say we're flipping the coin between Canada and Utah.

8:11Speaker 1:But this one found itself.

8:13Speaker 3:I can't believe this shooting in Budapest, Hungary and Elmwick Castle in Northumberland, England, which, again, is the proper way to say it. And we will get into it.

8:22Speaker 1:But how about the music budget? Wow. We'll get there.

8:26Speaker 3:Now, hilariously, Ingeland's Alnwick Castle was also used for a previous 1979 Disney adaptation of the exact same Dwayne story, that time called Unidentified Flying Oddball, which somehow involved NASA.

8:40Speaker 1:Gotta find a way to see that.

8:42Speaker 3:And that's not even the only other time Disney made a movie based on this story.

8:45Speaker 1:No, you're not. You're not passing.

8:47Speaker 3:We're in this together, Sabrina. We held hands and jumped off the cliff together. We're in this together.

8:51Speaker 4:Sorry.

8:52Speaker 1:All right.

8:53Speaker 2:Well, I'm going to run it by Doug and see if.

8:54Speaker 1:She can tell me. Yeah, because Louise didn't want to do this. So anyway.

8:59Speaker 3:So, yes, Disney made a movie based on the story again. And then there's a third time, 1995's A Kid in King Arthur's Court, starring Thomas Ian Nicholas, Kate Winslet, and Daniel Craig.

9:09Speaker 1:Damn. Plus, Disney isn't the only studio to have beaten this horse to death. Yes, we count my... No horses were harmed in the making of this podcast. We counted a total.

9:18Speaker 3:Of 10 variations on film, including a silent movie in 1921, which.

9:22Speaker 1:Sounded like this. Thank you very much.

9:26Speaker 3:Another starring Will Rogers, a later release with Bing Crosby, a kid's version with Cosby alum Keisha Naipuliam, and 2001's Martin Lawrence comedy, Black Knight.

9:37Speaker 1:Have you seen any of those?

9:39Speaker 4:No.

9:39Speaker 1:Me neither. I haven't seen a single one of those.

9:41Speaker 2:Bing Crosby is, I don't even know that name.

9:46Speaker 3:You don't know Bing Crosby? I'm not going to get into Bing Crosby.

9:49Speaker 1:Look him up.

9:50Speaker 2:Okay.

9:50Speaker 3:Bing Crosby, it seems like, and I don't want to stoke the fire, but seems like very talented and very much not a nice man.

9:57Speaker 1:Oh no.

9:57Speaker 4:Yeah.

9:58Speaker 2:That sucks.

9:58Speaker 1:Well, please do your own research. Don't take my word for it.

10:01Speaker 2:I'm an actor.

10:02Speaker 1:My opinions mean nothing.

10:03Speaker 2:So, yeah, I will. I will. But I think I'd be interested in seeing Martin Lawrence.

10:08Speaker 1:I heard Black Knight was pretty funny.

10:10Speaker 2:I'd be interested in that.

10:12Speaker 4:Yeah.

10:12Speaker 2:He's the best. He's great.

10:13Speaker 1:Yeah.

10:14Speaker 3:Well, when it comes to seeing this version, like most wonderful world movies, it is not on Disney plus, but some very kind soul, whoever it is person.

10:22Speaker 1:Thank you so much.

10:23Speaker 3:May your pillow always be cold, had uploaded the entire film to YouTube and it's actually not a bad rip. So it's free for all, which reminds me, I think if I didn't become an actor, I'd be one of those people who hands out free samples at Costco because I don't think there's a job other than actor that brings more joy to the masses. But I wouldn't want to be selling laundry detergent or something like that. I want little ham sandwiches or Pop-Tarts or snack mix. Anyway, watch it now or later. But now I just want a little ham sandwich. So yeah, it is what it is.

10:52Speaker 2:You got to get the I like the dips, the dips with the crackers.

10:57Speaker 1:Susan is like she just wants to eat dip at every meal.

11:01Speaker 3:So Lee Norris, who just Lee Norris, who was Minkus on on Boy Meets World and with Marla Sokolov just started a new podcast on the Pod Meets World channel.

11:10Speaker 1:Shout out. But this actually is a tie in.

11:15Speaker 3:Lee and my wife, Susan, call themselves dip buddies, because every time we have to travel anywhere, go anywhere altogether, they just get all these dips. And I look over at the two of them happy as hell, just sharing all their dips.

11:27Speaker 1:It's very strange. So, yeah.

11:29Speaker 2:That's hilarious. I would be so interested in joining that club.

11:33Speaker 1:I'm not even a member, so you better call them. My guess is you just got to eat dip all the time.

11:37Speaker 2:I'm going to ask her directly.

11:38Speaker 1:There you go.

11:40Speaker 2:I love all ranges from like, I think guac is in that range to like a tzatziki. I love tzatziki. To sweet flavored ones. You can't forget those.

11:54Speaker 1:I mean, I am. Do you like raita? Do you like raita?

11:58Speaker 3:Raita is like the yogurt-based Indian sauce that you dip the naan bread into.

12:02Speaker 1:Oh, it's magical.

12:03Speaker 2:That's honestly basically all I ate while I was in India. The spices didn't settle with me.

12:11Speaker 1:Just raita and naan?

12:15Speaker 2:Yep, and peanut butter and fruit.

12:16Speaker 1:I think we talked about this.

12:17Speaker 2:We did talk about it. The food didn't sit well with me, but that dip was so good. Oh, my gosh.

12:24Speaker 3:I think if memory serves, you told us that every bathroom you passed, you had to strut.

12:29Speaker 1:Thank you very much.

12:30Speaker 3:And now it is time to dive into Project Kablooey.

12:33Speaker 1:Here's the synopsis of a night in Camelot. I'm amazed no one's made that joke before.

12:38Speaker 3:A modern-day computer scientist is accidentally transported back to King Arthur's court in the 6th century.

12:45Speaker 1:Early thoughts, Sabrina. Not knowing this story, because I didn't either, really. Going in, what did you think of the movie?

12:52Speaker 2:Early thoughts of the movie?

12:53Speaker 1:Yeah, what are early thoughts of the movie?

12:55Speaker 2:Right when it starts or in general?

12:57Speaker 1:No, just in general. What are your general thoughts of the film?

13:00Speaker 2:You know, there were some really cringy aspects of it being when it was shot and just kind of certain things that I was like, oh.

13:09Speaker 1:Of course.

13:09Speaker 2:It happens more in the beginning. And then, but I really... loved seeing Whoopi Goldberg at this day and age of what she was doing and like how she's just so easy to watch on, on, on film. And so I, I mean, even with certain things where you're like, okay, like, you know, the story is, story holes, things like that, like plot holes or whatever. Honestly, I liked it. I enjoyed watching this. It wasn't that bad. I mean, it was an older movie. So again, just like we have to do with the younger age movies, you got to kind of get yourself zoned in. The beginning had me so confused. I had no idea what the hell was going on. And then it started to go, okay, this is the movie we were watching. But what about you?

13:57Speaker 1:I don't know. Really? Agree with everything you said.

14:02Speaker 3:Love Whoopi Goldberg. I think she's a consummate entertainer. So again, anytime Whoopi Goldberg is on screen, you're watching Whoopi Goldberg.

14:10Speaker 1:Love the period piece-ness of it. Because this is one of my favorite things in the world. I love the history, love that stuff.

14:19Speaker 3:My problems were with the story. And this is bad research by me. I don't know if this is from the original A Kid in King Arthur's Court or this is what they did for the movie. But the fact that she never tries to get home or doesn't care about getting home. She doesn't care about trying to change the entire history of the world where every time travel 101, you go back and you step on a bug. And oh, my God, your uncle wasn't born. And then your whole life is different. She's going back on like this is dynamite.

14:48Speaker 3:And I'm like, what are you crazy?

14:49Speaker 1:What are you doing?

14:51Speaker 3:So there's parts of it where I'm like, okay, is this just for this film? And our dear listeners right now are screaming at their radios going, no, radios, because they're listening to us in 1985.

15:01Speaker 1:Because we have all the time. Exactly. But they're screaming at their radios going, no, this is part of the story.

15:08Speaker 3:And maybe the initial kid in King Arthur's court, he's not worried about getting home.

15:12Speaker 1:He is changing what he can.

15:15Speaker 2:I felt it similar to aspects when we watched Cinderella.

15:19Speaker 4:Yeah.

15:19Speaker 2:The one we just watched, the Rogers.

15:21Speaker 1:Yeah.

15:22Speaker 2:I don't, I didn't, I don't know what the, what the original one is.

15:27Speaker 1:Right.

15:27Speaker 2:So it's hard to kind of compare to go, okay, well they're doing that because of this.

15:31Speaker 1:Right.

15:31Speaker 2:Or it's like, Oh, the writers just, just, yeah.

15:35Speaker 4:Yeah.

15:35Speaker 3:But it's like the idea of a scientist going back in time and then being like opening their laptop and you making dynamite and doing.

15:43Speaker 1:All this stuff. You're not supposed to do any of that. And the whole point is usually like she gets there and she's, so psyched to be there. And she's like, this is the best. And it's never like, how am I getting home? What am I going to do? Oh my God.

15:57Speaker 2:Even in the end, she doesn't want to be home.

16:00Speaker 1:And, but then it's not about breaking the, like she's trying to win a Nobel prize. So that part I didn't like.

16:06Speaker 3:And again, I don't know if that's just the story or that's this version of the story.

16:11Speaker 2:Right.

16:12Speaker 1:Well-made movie, good cast looks beautiful. Period. PC.

16:18Speaker 3:Some of the characters made no sense. And we'll get into that because are they good?

16:21Speaker 1:Are they bad? Now they're good. Now they're bad. And there was no real track to it. Overall, though, my answer stays the same. I don't know how I felt about this movie. So let's get into it.

16:31Speaker 2:We also got had a character, which seems like a trend right now with us, with these movies that comes in. And then we never see them again. And it just, I don't know if it's just because we pointed out while we're re-watching them and talking about them.

16:46Speaker 1:Her friend at the beginning?

16:48Speaker 2:Yes. It's starting to irritate me when they do that. Like, why are you wasting the time of this person when they literally don't have it?

16:56Speaker 1:I don't know. Yeah, no, I agree.

16:58Speaker 3:Anyway, this movie was directed by Roger Young, who began his career as a commercial director, who then moved to L.A.

17:03Speaker 1:In 1977 when the industry was still here.

17:06Speaker 3:To direct and won an Emmy for his work on the TV show Lou Grant. He'd also work on Knot's Landing, The Closer, and Rome, but find a real niche in religious miniseries like Jesus, St.

17:17Speaker 1:Paul, Moses, and Joseph. Our star is, of course, Whoopi Goldberg as Dr. Vivian Morgan. We just saw Whoopi, or Madam Goldberg, and again.

17:27Speaker 3:how we don't, she's, she's absolutely the, the Dabney, uh, the Coleman Reynolds chair, a hundred percent. It should be the Coleman Reynolds, uh, Goldberg chair. She's that big, but that's too many. So, uh, we just saw her as queen Constantine in 1997 Rogers and Hammerstein, Cinderella, Hodges and Hammerstein's Rogers and Cinderella, whatever. But she is not only a Disney legend who was officially crowned in 2017, but she's an overall EGOT winning legend of entertainment and, I'll list just some of the biggest projects. The Color Purple, Ghost, Star Trek The Next Generation, Sister Act, Sister Act 2, The Lion King, Corinna Corinna, and now The View.

18:04Speaker 1:You know her, of course.

18:05Speaker 3:She's a huge star and has been in the Disney slash ABC family for decades. And by the way, and this is not hyperbole, I would much rather be crowned a Disney legend than any got winner. I think there's something so much cooler about being a Disney legend than all those other stuff.

18:23Speaker 2:Right there with you.

18:24Speaker 1:Michael York is King Arthur.

18:26Speaker 3:York is known as Logan Awesome in the 1976 movie Logan's Run, but was also seen in 1972's Cabaret, Gilmore Girls, all the Austin Powers movies where he played Basil Exposition, which is such a great name, and was a frequent voice on The Simpsons from 2006 to 2020. Plus, this wasn't his only run-in with the Twain book either. He played Merlin in the 1995 movie Merlin.

18:49Speaker 1:Great title.

18:50Speaker 3:TV adaptation of, you guessed it, a young Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. But there's also a third instance. York also played King Arthur on the TV show Babylon 5. Robbie Addy is Sir Sagamore. He was in the 1981 movie Excalibur. And if you haven't seen it, great movie and TV shows like Crossbow and Bugs. But somehow he's also in Merlin, another adaptation of this book.

19:15Speaker 1:He played Sir Gilbert.

19:16Speaker 3:It's like they just got the same cast over and over. Hey, all right, switch costumes. You're now taking different roles.

19:21Speaker 1:Paloma Beza is Sandy.

19:23Speaker 3:A British-Mexican actress is herself an award-winning stop-motion director and is married to one of Hollywood's most sought-after filmmakers, Alex Garland. He directed the 28 Days Later movies, Civil War, Ex Machina, and Annihilation. And oddly, once again, this wasn't her only time with this story. She also appeared in A Kid in King Arthur's Court.

19:41Speaker 2:Oh, my.

19:42Speaker 3:So they just kept using the same cast. And finally, Amanda Donahue is Queen Guinevere. Donahue first came to public attention for her.

19:49Speaker 1:Ugh, okay. cringe and creepy alert people.

19:52Speaker 3:Her underage relationship with pop star Adam Ant, which isn't cool at all. On the more legal side, though, she starred in two Ken Russell movies, The Layer of the White Worm and The Rainbow. She'd go on to win a Golden Globe for her supporting role on L.A. Law, but you might recognize her from the Jim Carrey movie Liar, Liar. and she somehow was able to avoid starring in a version of this Mark Twain story throughout her career.

20:13Speaker 1:So congratulations on that.

20:14Speaker 2:I think she's so pretty.

20:16Speaker 1:She is stunning.

20:16Speaker 2:She's like a striking kind of pretty.

20:18Speaker 1:Yeah, stunning. Great Guinevere, too. Good casting.

20:21Speaker 4:Yes.

20:21Speaker 1:But I didn't understand the Guinevere character. Okay, we'll get into that.

20:23Speaker 4:Yeah, well.

20:24Speaker 3:And with all the renditions of this text, you have to hope they finally got it right when it comes to runtime. Magical Rewind supports the 90-minute movie movement and have no time for anything else.

20:33Speaker 1:So how long's the night in Camelot?

20:35Speaker 4:It is.

20:36Speaker 1:Can I get a drumroll, please? Brrrr. 90 minutes long. Ring the bell. Alert the authorities.

20:46Speaker 3:Release the hounds. Undo the rubber band so your Peter isn't blue. We have hit the target.

20:53Speaker 2:Mike is too hot for this today. Gosh, darn it.

20:58Speaker 3:Yes, a wonderful achievement and a wonderful feeling. Congratulations to everyone involved. Even Paula's husband, Alex Garland, whose last four films have run 115 minutes, 100 minutes, 109 minutes, and 95 minutes. could learn a lesson or two from his wife's movie. So on the writing side, we have, well, Mark Twain, obviously, but the screenplay was written by Joe Weisenfeld.

21:17Speaker 1:He, or excuse me, it might be Weisenfeld. It's probably Weisenfeld.

21:21Speaker 3:He was a prolific TV movie writer with titles like At the Midnight Hour, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Princes in Exile, and Anne of Green Gables on his resume. Sadly, Weisenfeld died in 2019 at the relatively young age of 71 years old.

21:34Speaker 2:Anne of Green Gables.

21:37Speaker 1:Just the way you just said it. Anne of Green Gables.

21:40Speaker 2:It was like that. That was it. It was a show.

21:44Speaker 1:Do you know who Anne of Green Gables married? No. Blue Peter. How did you not pick that up? Come on.

22:00Speaker 3:And now, everybody, let's rub yourself down with mud and be mistaken as a peasant, because this is a night in Camelot. We opened in a lab with a bunch of very cool 90s gadgets like a solar system mobile, fish tanks, and lava lamps.

22:13Speaker 1:And I don't know why the lava lamps were 90s, but they are. I still have a lava lamp.

22:17Speaker 2:Do you really? I do.

22:18Speaker 3:It's not plugged in because they should just call it like the fire maker. Yeah, those things were not safe. But they were so much fun, especially back in the day. You just smoke a whole bunch of weed and be.

22:26Speaker 1:Like, it's melting.

22:29Speaker 3:We hear a very recognizable song, Thomas Dolby's Blinded with Science. And that's the first proof we have that ABC has a much bigger budget than Disney. A computer announces that it requires Dr. Morgan's urgent attention because her massive equation download is complete.

22:44Speaker 1:We see that Dr.

22:45Speaker 3:Morgan is fast asleep and eventually the computer, well before Siri or Alexa, get annoyed and wakes her up with a siren. She hasn't been running these equations for nothing. She rushes to her desk to find out that the solution has been verified. She celebrates and runs out to show Sabrina's favorite character, Bob, who we see once and never again. She tells him it worked, but now they must test it to make sure it works in the real world. And again, we never really know what this is.

23:09Speaker 4:No.

23:10Speaker 3:To do that, she has to double the voltage, but Bob is obviously very nervous. They're up against the clock because her grant is running out, and she's been spending her entire career trying to prove the existence of this gravitational particle. She eventually convinces Bob to test the Kablooey Project, which again, probably not the best name for what she's going through. And he helps distract everyone while she runs one final test. After he leaves, she gets to work.

23:32Speaker 3:And again, never see Bob again.

23:33Speaker 2:Bye, Bob.

23:34Speaker 1:We hardly knew you. Later, Bob. She gets to work.

23:36Speaker 3:This is her shot to win the Nobel Prize or be stuck with the booty prize.

23:39Speaker 1:Thank you very much.

23:41Speaker 3:Once she presses the button, the machine creates an enormous burst of energy that pulls her and several objects from her desk straight into the experiment.

23:49Speaker 1:Fast. That was it. We're like 90 seconds in.

23:52Speaker 4:Right.

23:53Speaker 2:Boom.

23:54Speaker 1:So then she lands painfully.

23:56Speaker 2:I was so confused. I'm like, what's going on?

23:58Speaker 1:Me too. They're getting us there fast.

24:01Speaker 2:Okay.

24:03Speaker 3:I'm one of those people where a little more Disney Channel would have worked here. I get what they were doing and they kind of did it, but the bigger pan around the scientific room to know who she is, grant applications that have been rejected, pictures of her by herself, she doesn't have a family, like that kind of thing, which they do. We know it's one of the biggest Disney Channel tropes in the world. Do that a little bit here.

24:27Speaker 2:We need a little bit more.

24:28Speaker 1:A little bit more. Just establish her a little bit better.

24:30Speaker 2:I don't know anything about her. I don't know this Bob. They have a weird kiss on the cheek. Is he a lover? Is he not?

24:37Speaker 1:Thank you. I don't know.

24:38Speaker 2:It's like that kind of stuff.

24:40Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm guessing Bob ain't getting any, but you don't know.

24:42Speaker 2:I don't think so, but you know.

24:43Speaker 1:Anyway, yeah. And she painfully lands in a field.

24:46Speaker 3:Her laptop, boombox, and other modern belongings fall from the sky as well, almost hitting her. She has absolutely no idea what's going on, but is instantly ecstatic to be there.

24:56Speaker 1:Right.

24:57Speaker 3:And again, it's an interesting way to go with time travel. It's not like, huh, where am I?

25:00Speaker 1:What's going on? She's laughing and like, this is the best.

25:03Speaker 4:It worked.

25:04Speaker 1:My life is. And she was happy from this moment on.

25:07Speaker 2:But to me, because I rewound it. Like I said, I was confused. Was what she was trying to do this completely, was this a time travel thing?

25:17Speaker 1:Not that we know of. It's just a gravitational thing.

25:20Speaker 2:So she's so excited, but like.

25:22Speaker 1:For what?

25:23Speaker 2:What were you trying to do? Was this a mistake? Were you trying to, you know what I mean? Like, were you just trying to go from like America to like Australia? Or were you like actually trying to do time travel? What were you trying to do?

25:34Speaker 1:Yeah.

25:35Speaker 3:Are you trying to make things heavier? You trying to like, what's the point of your.

25:38Speaker 1:I don't know.

25:39Speaker 2:It was a little strange. So I rewatched it and I was like, okay, I still don't know.

25:42Speaker 1:I got to keep going. Again, this is where that first pan, pan past H.G.

25:47Speaker 3:Wells' The Time Machine and all the books she loves and stuff like that. And, oh, my God, you can tell by the time you land on her asleep, you know who she is, what the project is, that she hasn't been able to get the grant.

25:59Speaker 1:Like, you know everything in that same amount of time.

26:01Speaker 3:And that's one of the things that some of these DCOMs do really well is by the time we land on the main character, we know they're boy crazy or they're sports crazy or whatever.

26:11Speaker 4:Whatever.

26:11Speaker 3:Like, we know the character by the time we land there. And they just didn't do that this time.

26:15Speaker 1:I'm with you. I was like, is she trying to do time travel? Yeah. Is she excited because.

26:21Speaker 2:This was accident? And then my next thought went, oh, no. Will's going to do this. I just want to know the rules.

26:28Speaker 1:God, I pray for these people. I just want to know the rules. I prayed up.

26:32Speaker 3:But, yes, she has no idea what's going on but is happy by it. But when an armored knight on a horse arrives ready to attack, Vivian is in disbelief. This is real, and she is so excited she just made history.

26:43Speaker 1:Literally.

26:43Speaker 3:The man is confused and threatened by her appearance and all of the strange desk possessions she has, and he commands her to come with him to present to the king. He tells her this is Camelot, the home of King Arthur. She wishes she brought her camera. No one is going to believe this. She becomes a spectacle as she walks through the village and is called.

27:00Speaker 1:An ogre, which again.

27:04Speaker 3:a lot of this was, it seemed, and I'm not trying not to make wokeness a thing, but it seemed very racial.

27:09Speaker 1:And I didn't know if that's the way they were going with it. Did that seem weird to you?

27:13Speaker 2:Yes.

27:14Speaker 4:Yeah.

27:14Speaker 2:This is the cringe part. The ogre, the, even before that, the, um, the touching of the face.

27:22Speaker 4:Yeah.

27:23Speaker 2:Like it was so wild. Like you would not, I don't know. Like that just was like, That was when I was like, oh, gosh. Are we going to be talking? Like, are they going to be doing these, like, inappropriate things the whole movie? Yeah.

27:36Speaker 1:And they kind of didn't, which was great. But it started bad.

27:40Speaker 2:It started in a lot.

27:41Speaker 1:A lot. Yeah.

27:43Speaker 3:They tie her to the beam where she meets Clarence, a page of the court. He observes and smells her, first assuming she has hooves. He reveals that they are in the year of our Lord, 589. As she tries to find some footing in the mysterious situation, they grab her once again to take her to the king. And now we're in a big dining room, almost celebratory. There is music, dancers, and acrobats. The Knights of the Round Table rise and the king is introduced by Sir Lancelot, which is different, I found out after Googling, than Sir Mix-a-Lot.

28:10Speaker 1:Totally different Sir. Totally different Sir-a-Lot. Not related.

28:16Speaker 3:King Arthur welcomes everyone and announces they have captured an ogre from a strange and distant land. Vivian is presented to the king and everyone laughs. The queen is fascinated with Vivian, poking her and touching her hair.

28:26Speaker 1:She asks if they can keep her.

28:28Speaker 3:She talked way too much, so they chain her up once again, and the court announces she is a wizard. They take her to the dungeon, where Clarence then visits her. He breaks the news that she will be burned at the stake. She asks him for help. She's not an ogre. Vivian recognizes a lot of the characters from stories like, you know, Lancelot and the Queen, whose love affair does end up being the downfall of King Arthur.

28:47Speaker 1:She was once again chained up.

28:48Speaker 3:And Merlin arrives and mentions, He seems to know what's going on, and with that, she's rushed off to the dungeon. Clarence visits and informs her that, indeed, she will be burned at the stake.

28:58Speaker 1:She has her things.

28:59Speaker 3:So she convinces him to give her the laptop, pretending it's her pillow. And then she opens the laptop and somehow hooks into the prehistoric or the early 589 Wi-Fi. It's sir.mix.alot at AOL, because they be AOL like me,. com.

29:20Speaker 1:Thank you very much. Yes. Exactly.

29:24Speaker 3:She also gets him to tell her the date and inputs it into her computer, confirming she was catapulted into the past. I don't know what kind of program she's on that's working at 589. She's very excited about her success, but also she realizes that she's being, you know, about to be burned alive at noon. This is also, I think, where she realized what she actually looked at. was all the planets were in alignment. So she knows that she's going to be able to use that. And so now we are at the burning at the stake ceremony.

29:49Speaker 1:Fun party. I don't know if you've ever been to one.

29:50Speaker 3:Merlin announces her arrival and she calls out to the queen. She offers to show her the greatest magic trick they've ever seen. And the king agrees to release the ogre. The queen, however, wants her skin for a pair of boots, which is not chill.

30:02Speaker 1:And this is where I was like, wait a minute.

30:04Speaker 3:What are they doing with the knights of the round table and all these characters? It does make sense at the end, I believe. So we'll get into that. I think I understand what they were going for. But at first, as a fan of these characters and stories about the round table, I.

30:18Speaker 1:Was like, what are they doing with Guinevere and all these kind of... Like, wait, what? So, okay.

30:23Speaker 2:I was just like, it just, to me... I don't know. It just hit me so off. Like her using her skin for boots was just really. Wow.

30:36Speaker 1:Lady Guinevere saying this anyway, she's supposed to be like a symbol of love. Okay.

30:41Speaker 3:Well, again, I believe it does tie in at the end. They didn't do it well, but I think I know what they were going for.

30:48Speaker 2:I'm interested in your thoughts.

30:51Speaker 1:So here's, yes, I believe they did it right, but, but not well, if that makes sense. Correct. But not well.

30:56Speaker 4:Okay.

31:03Speaker 3:Vivian knows that the solar eclipse is about to happen because she looked it up at her computer with the ancient Wi-Fi. And she pretends to be a great and powerful magician from a distant land and threatens to black out the sun and take all of the light away. Then right on cue, the moon covers the sun, putting everyone into total darkness. The townspeople freak and Merlin the wizard fails at trying to change it back. Impressed, the king approaches and sets her free with his sword. He commands her to name any terms as long as they get their son back. She wants Merlin gone, she wants ensured safety, and she wants to get to know all of the people. Her requests are granted, so she's able to instruct the son to come back again, all perfectly timed.

31:38Speaker 3:Everyone cheers for her powers, and the king announces that she is now the king's sorcerer and.

31:42Speaker 1:His noble knight.

31:43Speaker 3:And they never would have made a woman a knight, but that's neither here nor there. The king asks what title she would like, and she grins. We are now being led to Vivian's chambers and her giddy hostesses keep calling her Sir Boss because originally in the beginning she was talking about how she wasn't the boss. We meet the Mistress of the Wardrobe and the Mistress of the Chamber Pot, two women who will now serve her in all of her desires. But once alone with all this power, Vivian wonders how she's going to get out of here.

32:10Speaker 3:And it's the only time she ever mentions getting out of there at all. She tries to call someone from her cell phone, but there's obviously no service. So she grabs the boombox. And plays Reach Out and I'll Be There by the Four Tops. More absolute proof that this movie has more money than any DCOMs. The next morning while Vivian's sleeping, Clarence tries to sneak in but gets caught. Vivian says she can smell him from bed. And I love that's one of the things that's so funny where she's just like, oh, these people need to bathe because nobody bathed at the time.

32:37Speaker 1:They actually thought it was bad for them.

32:38Speaker 2:I would just, oh my gosh.

32:41Speaker 1:Lots of smells.

32:42Speaker 3:There'd be lots of smells. He starts to bow, but Vivian wants him to cut it out. He apparently stored away some of her things and Vivian wonders if she can trust him. He promises she can, so she asks him to take her around, give her the lay of the land, and decipher the good guys from the bad guys. He says he's not worthy and she tells him to go take a bath. We cut to the bathroom where Clarence is in a giant tub when her three female servants enter with sponges and he's not stoked about it. Meanwhile, outside in the village, Clarence and Vivian are on a tour when she spots a group of chained prisoners, slaves bound for auction. She explains that slavery is bad and that people shouldn't be property, and where she comes from, everyone is free. They eventually arrive at the garden to buy some vegetables, but the farmers get on their knees, begging her to spare their children. Clarence explains they can't accept her money because they're servants, property of the king, and so the youngest family member tells her to pick anything she wants. Vivian places her coins on the wooden gate anyway, saying that maybe the daughter could just drop

33:34Speaker 3:off some vegetables every couple days.

33:36Speaker 1:There'll be some coins laying around and she can take them if she wants them.

33:40Speaker 3:They leave and Vivian notices that Clarence was smitten with the daughter. Vivian says she needs to talk to the king about all of these slaves. Soon after in the castle courtyard, Vivian and the king are riding horses and she reveals that one day his kingdom will be called England. He called, and again, it's actually called England, but that's me. He calls it a deep prophecy. So she continues pushing it. She says she needs a hundred men to help her grind flour faster with an invention called the steam engine.

34:05Speaker 3:not 100 slaves, 100 workers who she says will get paid. She also wants to work on hygiene and plumbing. He's impressed with her enthusiasm, but the queen watches from afar, clearly disturbed.

34:14Speaker 1:We're now in the kitchen.

34:15Speaker 3:That pissy little queen tells Sir Lancelot that it seems like the king and his new knight are flirting and having.

34:21Speaker 1:A secret affair. Later, we're outside Vivian's chambers.

34:25Speaker 3:Clarence watches the slave's daughter drop off the vegetables and asks her why she always runs off. She says she's afraid, but he assures her, She says she's afraid, but he assures her she doesn't have to be and brings her inside where Vivian is almost done with the steam engine. She asks the girl her name, and it's very long, but ends with Sandy. So Vivian says, well, we're just going to call you Sandy. She asks if Sandy can cook. Then she can be her chef and live in the castle, paying her two coins a week. She leaves to go tell her parents, and Vivian sends a clearly horned up Clarence to find Sandy a room to sleep in.

34:56Speaker 1:And so late. I was just about to say talk about Blue Peter, but I'm not going to say that because I'm above it.

35:00Speaker 3:I'm above it, Sabrina. That's why I'm not going to say it. And so later, Clarence shows Sandy her new place, and she's shocked. This is a home for a noble lady, not a slave. He tells her she will be safe, and Sandy notes that he's not like any of the other pages from the castle. We're now back at the village. Vivian is now walking with Clarence, going over everything needed to finish the enormous, now metal-worked steam engine.

35:24Speaker 1:So how.

35:25Speaker 3:In this roughly short amount of time, these people from 589 had developed this much metallurgy, which again, this is where my brain goes, no!

35:36Speaker 4:Right.

35:37Speaker 1:It drives me crazy. I know.

35:39Speaker 3:Why not make a small one to show proof of concept, which she did in her room, but show that to the king instead of making this giant thing where they'd never have the metal to do this, let alone, there'd be one or two people in that entire village that would know how to work metal. That's why there were that was their specialty.

35:53Speaker 2:Everyone went to that one person.

35:55Speaker 3:They had just all these giant metal objects. Sorry, it's the history lover in me that's like, no, please don't do that. Yes, but anyway, that's when we noticed that the possibly slimy or loving or good or bad wizard.

36:07Speaker 1:Merlin is watching them.

36:09Speaker 3:And that's bad news because later that night we see the wizard do something to sabotage the steam engine. The next day, a panicked Vivian reveals to Clarence that she needs to show the engine to Arthur tomorrow and it's not yet ready.

36:21Speaker 1:To prove her point, the steam engine explodes and a worker gets seriously hurt, which.

36:25Speaker 3:Whoopi Goldberg doesn't give a about, does not give a about at all.

36:30Speaker 1:She's like, yeah, he got hurt. Keep working. And I was like, wow.

36:35Speaker 3:Clarence is disturbed because even with all her talk about equality, the workers seem like her slaves.

36:39Speaker 1:Yup.

36:40Speaker 3:She tells them they are fed, well-paid and housed. If they want progress, this is how they get it. Clarence says he doesn't care about the progress.

36:48Speaker 1:He cares about justice. First time we've heard him say that, and then it comes back later, but with no real, it was like, what? Vivian congratulates him on the world's first teenage rebellion, and he walks away. Funny line.

36:59Speaker 3:Later at Vivian's chambers, Sandy arrives, and neither of them know where Clarence is. Vivian can't believe these people. She can help them. Sandy reminds Vivian that she's preached to be free is to be seen, heard, and spoken to, and to be ill-used as a free man is no better than being property.

37:14Speaker 1:Vivian nods. Okay, she has a point. The next day, Vivian apologizes to Clarence. She became the thing she hates.

37:20Speaker 3:Clarence apologizes too and tells her about a rumor going around that Merlin put a hex on it. Vivian gets angry but says she needs to have some fun and loosen up, of course. Clarence suggests attending a joust.

37:33Speaker 1:Again, they didn't just have jousts every day.

37:34Speaker 3:This is a giant thing, you know, where it's like the king would put these on for special events.

37:39Speaker 1:And would like empty the coffers to do this. It wasn't just like, it's Joust Tuesday. Let's go check it out. I love it.

37:46Speaker 2:Joust Tuesday.

37:47Speaker 1:Exactly. It's a big thing.

37:50Speaker 2:Well, because also people from all over came in to do this event. Exactly. So it takes days and weeks and months for these people to like travel in via horse or walking.

38:02Speaker 1:We've just become even better friends, Sabrina, that you know all this stuff. It's awesome. And I love it.

38:09Speaker 3:So we're now at said medieval times joust. Red knight's going down.

38:13Speaker 1:Down, down, down. Red knight's going down. Sorry.

38:17Speaker 3:Lance and another knight get ready on their horses while the queen and king watch on, of course, with Vivian right there. Lance wins the first battle and bows his helmet to the queen. A bunch of other sports are also taking place, like bear fighting, which I'd love to bet on.

38:29Speaker 2:That was wild.

38:29Speaker 1:Because I've always been on the bear.

38:31Speaker 2:Yes, of course. That bear was real.

38:33Speaker 1:Probably. Have you never worked with a real bear?

38:36Speaker 5:No.

38:37Speaker 1:No. We had two different bears on Boy Meets World.

38:41Speaker 4:Why?

38:41Speaker 1:Because they, of course, in Philadelphia, for teenagers in high school, there are often bears in school. Come on. Everybody knows that.

38:50Speaker 2:God.

38:51Speaker 3:The funny part was Danielle didn't remember it at all. She's in one scene where she is glued to a chair. They dump an entire thing, a bucket of honey on her head. And then a full-size bear walks.

39:01Speaker 1:Into the room. She's like, I don't remember that.

39:04Speaker 2:Oh, my gosh.

39:05Speaker 1:Yeah, I got to love it.

39:06Speaker 2:That is wild.

39:07Speaker 1:Yes.

39:08Speaker 3:Merlin.

39:08Speaker 2:I would remember that.

39:09Speaker 1:Of course. The bear remembered it. Merlin was, well, the bear is like, dude, I was on Boy Meets World.

39:17Speaker 2:Yeah, of course.

39:17Speaker 1:Merlin was commissioned to put a spell. Now they've got a famous podcast and they're on Disney Plus.

39:22Speaker 2:Check it out.

39:23Speaker 1:Yes. Sabrina brought it back. I love that. Thank you.

39:27Speaker 3:I'm going to give you another blue Peter pin. Merlin was commissioned to give me a Blue Peter. Can girls get Blue Peters?

39:37Speaker 2:I don't know, but I don't want to be the first to find out. You got to find out.

39:41Speaker 3:Please write all of your emails to Sabrina Bryan and let us know if we can get Blue Peters. Hit her up on her Instagram. Merlin was commissioned to put a spell on one of the knights to help him beat Lancelot, and Vivian is unsure if it'll help. And when it comes time for the joust, everyone watches on with bated breath.

39:56Speaker 1:And then they're off. And just like before, when they're about to make contact, the knight sprays Lancelot with some sort of liquid, making him fall off his horse. Vivian is furious. The knight lies and cheats. And now Vivian is on Lancelot's team like before. She wasn't because of Lancelot and Guinevere. There's like They're going back and forth on who's good and who's bad. Right. And I kept being like, are we are we pro Lancelot? Are we anti Lancelot? But again, I think they bring it back at the end. And I'll explain. Yeah.

40:27Speaker 2:But yes, I mean, I feel like at first she she knows more than like what she should know instantly.

40:34Speaker 3:Right.

40:35Speaker 2:And then she doesn't see but she doesn't necessarily seem to care.

40:39Speaker 1:Right.

40:40Speaker 2:Because there's things that happen right in front of her where she's like, oops, I'm just going to keep my business over here.

40:45Speaker 1:Right.

40:45Speaker 4:I don't know.

40:47Speaker 1:I don't either.

40:47Speaker 2:Yeah. It was interesting to kind of see her flip-flopping.

40:51Speaker 1:Yeah, she's flip-flopping. But everyone kind of is. They're like, they're good, then they're bad, then they're good. Anyway.

40:55Speaker 2:Yeah.

40:57Speaker 1:Lancelot stammers to his feet and brushes himself off. My eyes, I couldn't see.

41:01Speaker 3:And so they duel once again. The wizard performs another spell and Lancelot takes off his helmet to battle.

41:06Speaker 4:Mm-mm.

41:07Speaker 3:And this time he uses his sword, wouldn't have allowed that, to smash the cheating knight's spray out of his hand and wins. Everyone cheers, and the wizard leaves, now very angry. Lancelot smiles at the queen, and unfortunately, the king notices. Vivian is yelling at the hellish knight for being a cheater, and he's dragged out, and then he challenges her to a fight to the death. Clarence tells her to refuse, but she's a knight and accepts the challenge. He will return in three months to fight.

41:32Speaker 1:That's me fighting back in the day. Be like, I am going to kick your ass. Three months from now.

41:37Speaker 2:In two years, I will be back.

41:40Speaker 1:I will be back. I need to get some training. I will take my revenge on you. Unless we both forget and have other things to do.

41:48Speaker 4:Right.

41:48Speaker 1:Which is what we hope. And hopefully someone.

41:50Speaker 2:Else dies before that.

41:51Speaker 1:Exactly. Hopefully something happens. Yeah. Vivian isn't done, though. She tells the king she also wants to challenge Merlin.

41:59Speaker 3:He allows it, and Vivian teaches his highness how to high five.

42:02Speaker 1:Everyone gasps, but she explains it's a good thing. We're now in Vivian's room.

42:06Speaker 3:More music licensing money was spent as we hear Chubby Checker's The Twist.

42:10Speaker 1:Vivian shows Clarence what.

42:11Speaker 3:Dynamite is, because, yeah, let's give people from 589 the ability to, I mean, explosions, for God's sakes. In all fairness, there was Greek fire by this time, but it's a whole different thing, which is proof this obviously never aired on Disney Channel, as Whoopi Goldberg is teaching a young child how to make explosives. Soon after, in the crowded dining hall, Respect by Aretha Franklin starts playing from Vivian's boombox.

42:33Speaker 4:Cha-ching!

42:34Speaker 3:And dynamite goes off, giving a fireworks effect. The townsfolk are shocked as Vivian floats down from the ceiling, on wires of course, to challenge Merlin. She gets stuck and has some words with the queen, but Merlin accepts the challenge. We're now in the armor room. Vivian is lying on the table getting fitted for her knight armor. Clarence is scared for her, but she's confident in her skills. She stands up and tries on her helmet, but keeps falling.

42:55Speaker 3:She then chooses her sword and can't even raise it up without falling backwards. She wants it taken off, but finds out that it is a combat suit and can't be removed unless it's destroyed. So she's dragged into the knight's closet because she has to go pee-pee. And they throw water on her so she can relieve herself. And she smiles as she releases the urine.

43:16Speaker 1:Outside, Clarence tells Vivian that he does not want her to fight the cheating knight, Sir Sagamore, and takes her to her family's gravesite. And this is the first time where we're like, what?

43:25Speaker 3:Clarence reveals that his mother, father, grandfather, his other sister, her husband, and his sweet baby brother all died on the same day 14 years ago. Whoopi Goldberg asks, is it the plague? And he went, what's the plague? That is until the 1300s. His whole family was slaughtered by Sir Sagamore on his sister's wedding day, and even though he was just six years old, he escaped through the forest. And I looked up when this was made, and this was in 1998, which is right after.

43:52Speaker 3:Braveheart came out and Braveheart is when anybody heard about Prima Noctu the first time which is the noble first night which is where any peasant girl getting married the local noble has the right to go and sleep with her on the first night of her marriage before her husband so that's the first time anybody had heard of this and so they put it into this movie I'll guarantee you because it's like the same time I'm guessing the original kid in King Arthur's court did not mention Prima Noctu yes His whole family was slaughtered on a wedding day. Even though he was just six years old, he escaped through the forest. He comes back to Camelot to become a knight and challenge him. But Vivian doesn't want to chicken out. So he tells her she must fight him to the death. We're in the king's bedroom that night. And this was a fully weird scene. He's lying in bed with his dog. And Vivian asked the king why he can't have Sag arrested. And the king explains Clarence has no proof and no real crime was committed.

44:45Speaker 1:It was a punishment.

44:46Speaker 3:She can't believe he's saying this and asks if there's any way to just call off the joust. The king says she can give up her title and leave Camelot in disgrace. No matter what, it's to the death. The next day in the village, Sandy can tell Clarence is upset and asks if she can help. He just knows if Sir Boss fights Sagamore tomorrow, she'll be dead. And if she defeats him and he dies, he'll never get his chance for revenge. So it's just all about you, isn't it, Clarence? He loves Sir Boss like he would his mother, so Sandy explains that love is stronger than revenge.

45:12Speaker 3:She grabs his hand and they walk away. Here's another problem I had with this movie, and it's a small problem.

45:17Speaker 1:But an easy fix. let us know how long she's been there. Is she, is this the first week she's been there? She's built this machine. She's jousting. She's or has she now, but cause he's like, I love thee like a mother. Really? Well, that's weird. If you were four days in and make sense, if we're four years in or four months in or whatever.

45:36Speaker 2:There was a, there was the time period of like three months, but that was like two minutes ago. So it's not.

45:44Speaker 4:Yeah.

45:44Speaker 1:So, yeah. I mean, it's, it's weird the way that they're, The time difference is strange.

45:51Speaker 4:Yeah.

45:51Speaker 1:Yeah. We're now in the dining hall.

45:54Speaker 3:The wizard casts a spell on an armored Sagamore who eventually approaches the king and bows. It's now Vivian's time to present herself, but she comes out and she's not wearing her armor.

46:02Speaker 1:Vivian says she doesn't need armor, much like Bruce Lee.

46:05Speaker 3:Instead, she's in a very colorful kind of basketball jersey and skirt. Vivian has chosen hand-to-hand combat with broadswords. I don't know if you've ever held a broadsword, but they're heavy.

46:13Speaker 1:And Sag agrees to the condition. And then they fight.

46:16Speaker 4:What?

46:20Speaker 1:Are you going to ask me why you would have ever held a broadsword?

46:22Speaker 2:When would I have? I mean, I'm sure on Boy Meets World, there was a broadsword that someone had to have. Well, obviously just right there.

46:32Speaker 1:I will send you. I've held them so many times. I will send you.

46:43Speaker 3:I did a friend of mine show that my friends who do the show Critical Role.

46:48Speaker 1:And they did another show called All Work and No Play.

46:51Speaker 3:And we all got dressed fully as knights and had a sword instructor and did a full battle scene as knights.

46:57Speaker 1:Awesome way to spend a day, by the way.

47:00Speaker 2:I'm not questioning that you would have a say. It's just like, you know enough about me to know.

47:06Speaker 1:Wait, so when you're teaching your young dancers, you're not holding a broadsword to them to make sure they're dancing right? You're doing this wrong, Sabrina.

47:14Speaker 2:I guess that's weird, but no. The answer is no.

47:17Speaker 1:Oh, God.

47:17Speaker 2:Not ever.

47:18Speaker 1:Plie, thrust, and jab. Everybody knows that.

47:20Speaker 2:Thrust and jab.

47:22Speaker 1:Everybody knows that.

47:24Speaker 3:They wrestle back and forth with Vivian trying some karate. All items around them are in play, and she gets Daniel-san ready, then kicks him, unfortunately.

47:32Speaker 1:Daniel-san. unfortunately hurting her foot because, you know, he's in a giant metal suit.

47:38Speaker 3:As everyone laughs, he chases after her, but she gets the last laugh when she pushes him to the ground, but decides not to kill him.

47:43Speaker 1:Victorious, she walks to the king, and that's when.

47:45Speaker 3:Clarence calls Sag a murderer for his family and challenges him to a duel.

47:50Speaker 1:The queen is furious. How dare you challenge a knight to the dungeons?

47:53Speaker 3:Sir Sag calls it all lies, but the king says he's heard this story, and when a dark deed is performed.

47:59Speaker 1:He has a.

47:59Speaker 3:Right of challenge, which I don't think a peasant or a page can challenge a full knight, but let's look it up on whatknightrules.com. And so round two, Clarence and Sir Sagamore start fighting now as a main event. Clarence is knocked to the ground and backs up in fear as Sir Sagamore follows him ready to kill the boy. Vivian motions for Clarence to lead Sir Sagamore under a chandelier. And when he arrives right on the spot, Vivian cuts the rope and the chandelier falls on the bad knight, which seems like what's the word for it?

48:27Speaker 1:Oh yeah.

48:27Speaker 2:Cheating.

48:29Speaker 1:Take your blade, bro. You lost.

48:31Speaker 3:Clarence points his sword at Sag and forces him to confess his crime. The king stands up and says he's giving Clarence full title to all the land and properties that formerly belonged to Sagamore and his fate is now in his hands. He announces that he finds justice sweeter than revenge and then runs his blade through Sagamore's throat. No, that's not what happened.

48:49Speaker 1:Yes.

48:50Speaker 3:Sagamore can be tried by his peers at the round table. That's when Lancelot chimes in, Well said, boy. Be assured justice shall be received. I don't know what accent that was. Everyone claps, but I'm not quite sure everything is going to play out as that simple. We're in the castle the next day. Vivian is with the king when he gets dressed. She thinks she's making mistakes because she doesn't know enough about where she is. She wants to get out of the castle and meet people.

49:15Speaker 1:And this is where, again, show leaves falling.

49:18Speaker 3:They're now in springs. Show snow on the ground for one scene. Show that she's been there for a little while. And then she's like, I'm making mistakes because I don't know people.

49:27Speaker 1:She wants to get out of the castle and meet everybody.

49:29Speaker 3:He thinks it's a wise idea and says he'd love to accompany her. But Vivian says, no, she doesn't want to be responsible for him, but he's not budging. They're going to leave at dawn. Now in her bedroom, Vivian, Clarence, and the king are getting ready to leave. Clarence says they're too clean to go meet peasant people, so once outside, he grabs some mud and rubs it on his outfit, which turns into a fun old-timey mud fight. Ye old mud fight. And they make their way to town, which, by the way, would have been filled with horse manure, cholera, all the kind of crap that would kill you back in the day. That's just why personal hygiene made people live longer. As they make their way to town, Vivian tells the king there is a play about him where she's from, but they're interrupted by some ruffians on horseback, and they end up hiding finally successfully. Inside the castle, the queen is walking the hallway when Lancelot stops her for a word. He tells her that he's in love with her, and if she doesn't feel the same way, he'll leave her alone. She says their relationship cannot be, but he tells her to kiss him just once. She

50:23Speaker 3:says if she kisses him once, she'll never stop and walks away.

50:26Speaker 1:Great line.

50:28Speaker 3:Back in the forest, Vivian tries to teach them how to cringe, which is how lower-class medieval characters physically shrink away or bow low in fear before nobility and masters. When they have little to no ability to do it, Vivian shows them how, since her people back home had to do it a long time ago. There was a very interesting idea that she kept bringing in about slavery, which at first, when they were treating her and calling her an ogre and all that stuff, was very cringey.

50:57Speaker 3:but then they wove it into the story enough to where it worked.

51:01Speaker 1:And it was, it was, and it wasn't overly like slavery bad.

51:05Speaker 3:It was, it was the way she wove it in and little moments like this were really interesting.

51:10Speaker 4:I thought.

51:10Speaker 2:Yeah. I agree. And it was like, especially now, 2026, like it was like, okay, let's, you know, it was a, I, I, I agree. It was very interesting way to do it.

51:22Speaker 1:I thought so too.

51:24Speaker 3:And just in time, by the way, because they arrive at a new castle, as they enter the village, the knights from the woods recognize them and immediately seize them. They are brought to the slave market so the villagers can throw food at them, then taken to a dungeon where all three are chained up. Things look pretty dire, but Vivian pulls out her pocket knife and frees herself, then Clarence, and then the king. Right before they're about to leave, Vivian and the king are caught, but Clarence gets away. The king tells him to go get help and runs off. The next day, Vivian and the king are once again chained up. The king says he had such dreams for his kingdom, how did it all go wrong?

51:53Speaker 1:And so.

51:54Speaker 3:This is where I think they bring it back. And Merlin does later too. Vivian explains she's from a magical place in the future. She even saw a man walk on the moon. She says with tools like love, honor, loyalty, and forgiveness, they make their lives better. This concept came from a place called Camelot and King Arthur was actually the architect. So we're in Camelot before it's the Camelot we know about. And it's actually Vivian that gives Arthur kind of the code of the knights is what I think they were going for. And Merlin kind of reiterates that later. Meanwhile, back at the Camelot castle, Clarence begs Lancelot and the queen to save his friends, but the queen thinks it could be a trap. Vivian has brought nothing but trouble to Camelot since she's arrived. Clarence swears that every word he speaks is true, but Lancelot and the queen don't react. By the way, he'd already been knighted.

52:42Speaker 3:And if you swear as a knight that what you say is true, then you can't lie. So the idea that Lancelot didn't believe that, but then I was like, okay, maybe they haven't established that yet but still i was like he can't be lying he's just he's a he's a knight for god's sakes anyway.

52:57Speaker 2:Well doesn't mean he can't lie it just means.

53:00Speaker 3:But they wouldn't i mean that they that's one of the things when you were knighted like that it was like your word was what you your word and your steel were what you had so if you were ever caught lying you you would have been killed essentially because it was like.

53:11Speaker 1:That's that being a knight especially back in the day.

53:14Speaker 2:Had an ability to get away with it though.

53:17Speaker 3:Some probably did, but not the knights. I'm talking about not knights in real life. I'm talking about the knights of the round table.

53:23Speaker 1:Right.

53:23Speaker 3:I mean, that was like one of the deals of being a knight of the round table. Your word was your bond. Your word was true. I mean, obviously, the knights in actual England were lying and cheating and having sex with people.

53:34Speaker 1:Oh, yeah. No, no. I'm talking about the knights of the actual round table. Got it. They were supposed to, like, their word was their bond. You couldn't lie. You couldn't. It was all this kind of stuff, which is the thing that was so cool about it. God, I love these stories. They were just so cool.

53:45Speaker 3:Clarence leaves, and now alone, Lancelot wonders what if he's telling the truth. The queen finds it hard to believe that the king would dress as a slave to be hung all on his own, so he has to be bewitched. Lancelot says he has to go to the king.

53:58Speaker 1:He's honor-bound. But she tells him his job is to protect Camelot, not let it fall to a sorceress. Lancelot stands strong. He wants to at least send some help. But we're in the armor room now. Clarence has rushed in to put on his knight's armor. Sandy arrives and explains if he dies today, he'll do it with her name on his lips. So sweet. He kisses her and tells her he loves her, and she says she loves him too.

54:19Speaker 3:We're now at the big hangin', big party. The king and Vivian disguised as peasants. Yeah, let's go to the big hangin'. Hey, you guys want to go to the big hangin'? The king and Vivian disguised as peasants are set to be executed. The king asks her to block out the sun again, but she tells him it was a once-in-a-lifetime enchantment. But she assures him the story she knows does not end this way, but you can tell they're both starting to worry. And then, boom, clarence appears and fights off some of the knights, but in the process he loses his sword.

54:45Speaker 1:With nothing left to do, he pulls out dynamite. Yikes.

54:48Speaker 3:And Vivian instructs him to throw it. He does it and explodes against the wall, forcing everyone to run away. Now with some room to breathe, Clarence gets them down. And just as they're about to leave, Vivian hears a voice and sees the wizard.

54:59Speaker 1:But no one else sees or hears anything. And that's when I was like, that's the first time that's happened.

55:03Speaker 2:Yeah. I kind of was like, wait, did I miss something before?

55:06Speaker 1:I thought the same thing. We're now back at the castle.

55:08Speaker 3:The queen announces that the king left Camelot with the mad witch, Serbos, a few days ago. And so the king, under her evil spell, has been hung as a commoner. Everyone gasps, and Sir Mix-a-Lot is beside himself. I was just seeing if you were paying attention, Sabrina.

55:22Speaker 1:I was.

55:22Speaker 2:I was sitting here reading it right with you.

55:26Speaker 3:Yes, it is actually Lance-a-Lot.

55:31Speaker 2:Sorry, I swear, I'm right here.

55:34Speaker 1:Yeah, I got you.

55:35Speaker 2:You're just so fast, Will.

55:36Speaker 1:I just do it so fast.

55:37Speaker 2:I know, you do.

55:38Speaker 1:It's like... Lance-a-Lot is beside himself, not Sir Mix-a-Lot.

55:42Speaker 2:And also. No, I don't even want to say it.

55:45Speaker 1:Come on. What are you going to say?

55:47Speaker 2:I honestly never even put together Sir Mix-a-Lot with this.

55:50Speaker 1:And Sir Lancelot?

55:52Speaker 2:Never. Never, ever. Never crossed my mind once. But now I'm like, was he like a fan? Like, where did he come up with that name?

55:59Speaker 3:Well, no, because Lancelot's original horse from all these stories was called Baby Got Back.

56:06Speaker 1:I didn't know if you didn't know that.

56:07Speaker 2:This is why I said, never mind. I don't want to bring it up.

56:11Speaker 1:You're either going to just.

56:12Speaker 2:Totally laugh at me.

56:13Speaker 1:My steed, baby got back. No, you didn't know that?

56:16Speaker 2:You're going to start making shit up, and I just can't take it. Now I don't know what's up and down. Oh, God. Next time, I'm not going to tell you.

56:26Speaker 1:Really? Yeah.

56:26Speaker 2:It's faithful steed.

56:28Speaker 1:Baby got back. Everybody knows that. Lancelot says, what have we done?

56:34Speaker 3:But she stands strong. They must carry this through. But still, long live the king. But to her dismay, the king enters yelling, The.

56:39Speaker 1:Reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.

56:42Speaker 3:Again, that's not how he sounded at all. The queen runs to him and bows. She's so happy that he's safe.

56:47Speaker 1:And I think she is, but it was strange the way it was happening. Lancelot also bows to his knees as the king grabs his queen, who he says he loves with all his heart. Also, he loves Lancelot.

56:57Speaker 3:He says he was saved by God, saved from ignorance by Serbos and from death by Clarence, who he asked to stand before him.

57:03Speaker 1:Oh, so he hadn't dubbed him a knight yet. My bad.

57:05Speaker 3:He says he is the son of his soul and dubs Clarence worthy to be the knight of Camelot.

57:09Speaker 1:Yeah, now he's a knight, so got it.

57:10Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought I, okay.

57:12Speaker 1:No, you're right.

57:13Speaker 3:He knights him Sir Clarence and the young man hugs Vivian to thank her, but then asks the king for one more favor. Sandy means more to him than all the titles in the land and asks for his consent to their marriage. He says if she's worthy in his eyes, then she's worthy in his. Vivian asks for her boombox to share a celebration tradition in her country. She plays Chubby Checkers.

57:31Speaker 1:The twist again. Did yours cut out on YouTube? Yes. See, I think they couldn't play the song.

57:36Speaker 3:So I looked at three different times and only one really bad rip had the actual music, which is probably illegal.

57:42Speaker 2:Well, no, I heard the twist the first time, though.

57:44Speaker 1:I did, too. But then they cut it at the end. I don't know why.

57:47Speaker 2:I just figured it was like my Internet or something.

57:50Speaker 1:No, mine dropped out as well. Mine dropped out as well. Yes, the twist again. And she teaches everyone to dance.

57:55Speaker 3:But just when the fun begins, the wizard appears and tells her it's time abruptly transporting her back to her messy office.

58:02Speaker 1:And then the wizard's there, too.

58:03Speaker 3:And she wonders why he's back. She had so much more to do, make canals, introduce flushing toilets, but he tells her it's all too soon. So this is what they're trying to say. But Arthur became the king who set the world on the long road to freedom from her, thankfully, and the dark ages will be over. She asked if he orchestrated everything, but he wonders what she knew about honor, loyalty, pride, or courage before coming to Camelot.

58:25Speaker 1:She's worried.

58:26Speaker 3:Will they even remember she was there? And he says, no, but they will live happily ever after. She asks where he's going next and he opens the door to a new galaxy. She obviously now doesn't care about the grant or anything else that she's doing. He tells her he could use an apprentice.

58:39Speaker 1:Hell yes.

58:42Speaker 3:Merlin's apprentice where you get to travel through the galaxy.

58:44Speaker 1:Uh-huh. God, let me put in my resume. Oh, you're a podcaster. This is going to do nothing for your resume. Anyway.

58:53Speaker 2:You could use those funny voices.

58:55Speaker 1:I could do.

58:55Speaker 2:Exactly.

58:56Speaker 1:Exactly. Thank you.

58:58Speaker 3:Thank you, Sabrina. And she decides to join him.

59:02Speaker 1:Thank you. She wants to go everywhere, even meet Einstein, the new team walk into the unknown. And that's our movie.

59:17Speaker 2:Into the green screen.

59:18Speaker 4:Yes.

59:18Speaker 2:Think about it. Was it of its time? I don't remember.

59:21Speaker 1:It was perfect for 90s.

59:23Speaker 2:Of its time, right? Yeah, it was. I didn't think it looked like wild.

59:27Speaker 4:No.

59:27Speaker 2:I thought about what the time.

59:29Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it was fine. It was fine.

59:31Speaker 3:We're doing our real reviews now, and I have the five-star review this week. It is from Ozzy Surf and Son. Yeah, the film was actually aged super well.

59:41Speaker 1:No, I won't do an Australian accent. The film is actually aged super well. I was pleasantly surprised.

59:46Speaker 3:The blend of comedy and serious messages like classism and a thirst for knowledge versus ambition works. I laughed out loud several times, especially during the scene where they're trying to act nonchalant and do a silly walk to avoid the slave catchers.

59:58Speaker 1:The ending is fantastic. I won't spoil it.

1:00:00Speaker 3:But it makes sense that a PhD scientist, she would value that over the comfort of modern times.

1:00:06Speaker 1:Five stars. What do you got, Sabrina? Five stars.

1:00:10Speaker 2:Okay, I've got the one star.

1:00:14Speaker 1:And it's from? I love you pronouncing these names. It's my favorite.

1:00:19Speaker 2:I cannot do them at all.

1:00:21Speaker 1:Astanax? Yeah, perfect. All right.

1:00:24Speaker 2:Astanax Knight. One star. I am studying up on the 14th century clothing for my book, as well as for my SCA garb. And the costumes do not match the time period. As a fan of medieval movies myself, the historical accuracy gnaws at me. This movie, in my opinion, parallels Martin Lawrence's Black Knight. That only doubles down that I got to see that movie.

1:00:51Speaker 4:Yeah.

1:00:51Speaker 1:Also, they said they were in 539. They're nowhere near the 14th century. Not even close.

1:00:57Speaker 2:I didn't even think about that.

1:00:58Speaker 1:Not even close. It's true. Like, not even close.

1:01:01Speaker 3:You're more than a thousand years away from that. No, you're a thousand years away, just about.

1:01:06Speaker 5:Yeah.

1:01:08Speaker 3:Anyway, we are now going to do Sabrina's favorite portion of the program, of course, and that is our feature game. This one is called King Me. I think we're playing with somebody new today. Who's going to be joining us today for our feature game?

1:01:20Speaker 1:It's Maddie.

1:01:20Speaker 2:Hello.

1:01:21Speaker 1:Hi, Maddie. Now I know Maddie well, of course, because she is our producer on Pod Meets Twirled. And she is joining us. So here we go. This is King Me.

1:01:32Speaker 3:With this DCOM, which is really a wonderful world of Disney, and apparently so many other movies, we watch the story of a king. So in honor of their majesties, we will get the name of an actor and we have to pick which king they played in a movie.

1:01:45Speaker 1:Three out of five wins. You think we're going to be good at this? I don't know. No, no, no, no.

1:01:52Speaker 2:I need to see pitch. I would like to request Jensen when we do these things to put a nice little picture of the.

1:01:59Speaker 1:No. Do you know who Kenneth Branagh is?

1:02:02Speaker 2:No.

1:02:03Speaker 1:Did you watch any? Oh, God, you didn't even watch the Harry Potter movies. I got nothing for you. I got nothing for you, Sabrina. OK, I'm trying to think what else you would know. Kenneth Branagh. I mean, he's been in everything anyway. OK, so here we go. Three out of five wins. Number one, Kenneth Branagh.

1:02:19Speaker 2:I'm going to start reading these before so I can get the pictures. Start doing.

1:02:23Speaker 1:Oh, so you're going to start cheating.

1:02:24Speaker 2:Gotcha. Not cheating. I won't look up anything, but at least I can have like a picture, a visual.

1:02:30Speaker 1:Okay. Fair enough. Kenneth, you'd recognize Kenneth Branagh. Kenneth Branagh. Was he A, King Arthur, B, King Henry V, C, King Vortigern, or D, Don King?

1:02:41Speaker 2:He's obviously B, King Henry V.

1:02:43Speaker 1:I think he's Henry V too.

1:02:45Speaker 4:Oh, really?

1:02:47Speaker 1:But wait. Henry V was the. Yeah.

1:02:53Speaker 3:Henry V, was he the weak king? No, Henry VI was the weak king. He's either King Arthur in something that I haven't seen, or he's Henry V. He's obviously not Don King, and I've never heard of King Vortigern, so I don't know who that is. I'm going to go with you, though, and I'm going to be wrong, because I shouldn't be. Here's the other thing. Here's what's going to piss me off. This could be one of the times where Jensen's messing with us, and the answer is King Arthur in every single one.

1:03:17Speaker 2:It's true because it's an option for everyone.

1:03:19Speaker 1:You know what? I'm picking A, King Arthur. I'm going to see if... So you stay with B and I'll take A. There you go. Who is it, Maddie?

1:03:26Speaker 2:The winner is Sabrina.

1:03:30Speaker 4:Okay.

1:03:30Speaker 1:Damn it. All right. So at least I know that that's not what he did. Okay.

1:03:35Speaker 2:Okay.

1:03:36Speaker 1:Oh, and I would have known that if I looked at the second one. Damn it.

1:03:38Speaker 3:Number two, Colin Firth. Did he play King Arthur? B, King George VI. C, King Edward I.

1:03:45Speaker 1:Or D, Don King.

1:03:47Speaker 2:King edward the first.

1:03:50Speaker 1:I think he played george the sixth from in in the king's speech wasn't he george the sixth or was he edward the first no i think he picked your i think he was george.

1:03:58Speaker 2:The king edward i don't know how you don't remember that okay.

1:04:02Speaker 1:All right will you are correct thank you i thought so he was queen queen elizabeth the second the one that just passed away's dad did you see the king's speech no Oh, God, it's such a good movie. Oh, Sabrina. Okay. That's one of those movies like Shawshank that I watch every time it's on. It's so good, The King's Speech. Great freaking movie.

1:04:22Speaker 2:You have to text me when they're done.

1:04:24Speaker 1:Okay.

1:04:24Speaker 2:I need a list.

1:04:25Speaker 1:You will love The King's Speech. It's such a great film. Okay.

1:04:29Speaker 3:Number three, Clive Owen. Was he A, King Arthur, B, King Vortigern, C, King George VI, again, or D.

1:04:36Speaker 1:Don King?

1:04:38Speaker 2:King George VI when someone else was just it?

1:04:41Speaker 3:Right.

1:04:41Speaker 1:That's interesting.

1:04:42Speaker 3:I think he played King Arthur in that kind of cool, but not really kind of cool Roman version of the Knights of the Round Table.

1:04:49Speaker 1:I was going to go with King.

1:04:50Speaker 2:Arthur as well.

1:04:51Speaker 1:All right. A, King Arthur.

1:04:53Speaker 2:Both of you are correct. All right.

1:04:57Speaker 4:Now we've got Sean Connery. Who did Sean Connery play?

1:05:01Speaker 2:Will, that's so good.

1:05:02Speaker 4:Well, it's because I'm Sean Connery. Was he A, King Arthur? B, King George VI? C, King Edward I, or D, Don King?

1:05:12Speaker 2:I'm going to go with King Edward I.

1:05:15Speaker 3:No, I'm going to say he played King Arthur in that bad Robin Hood movie with Kevin Costner.

1:05:21Speaker 1:He comes in at the end. Oh. Is the answer King Arthur? The answer is King Arthur. And five Ving Rhames. Did he play A, King Arthur, B, King Edward I, C, King James I, or D, Don King? I think he played Don King, didn't he?

1:05:42Speaker 2:I think so. The only one that's been on it, I'm going with Don King.

1:05:47Speaker 1:I think it's Don King, D.

1:05:50Speaker 2:You are both correct.

1:05:51Speaker 1:Hey, we won!

1:05:51Speaker 4:Thank you.

1:05:53Speaker 2:You won already, though, Will, by four. You only got the first one wrong.

1:05:57Speaker 3:I know, but we still won. I still think I won because of my Sean Connery impression. Can we do a Sabrina Seas, please?

1:06:05Speaker 1:Sabrina Seas.

1:06:09Speaker 2:We can. Oh, I was looking at the options already.

1:06:13Speaker 4:Okay.

1:06:14Speaker 2:So this being in the time where you might have had like the lava lamp in our very first, you know, room setting. Were those, was that Tink? filled with real fish that was or was that like a fake fish thing that they it.

1:06:32Speaker 1:Looks like a fake fish thing well i didn't know if.

1:06:34Speaker 2:They i don't know if that was a thing.

1:06:37Speaker 3:I don't think so it was just fake fish i've never heard of a fake fish thing but maybe.

1:06:41Speaker 2:That is a thing i don't know i don't know i would thought maybe you would know um cringe cringe cringe we already went.

1:06:48Speaker 3:Over that cringe cringe cringe cringe cringe copy that cringe cringe.

1:06:51Speaker 2:Cringe um the The part where the, I did giggle when we talked about it, but we just kept moving past the, the ladies looking so excited for bath time was just like, again, we are not on the Disney channel.

1:07:03Speaker 1:Apparently not.

1:07:04Speaker 2:This poor guy is about to get. That was a little bit. Oh my gosh. And I was like, we already talked a little bit about, but jousting the idea, jousting and how it was. And I, it's, it goes along with then going back to like, The Tigers in the pit with people.

1:07:27Speaker 1:Oh, like the Gladiator Games?

1:07:29Speaker 2:The Gladiator Games. Or even recently, because it hasn't been banned for much more than 20 years. If it has been, like, the bullfighting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The idea of those kinds of athletic sports... Being there for like people's entertainment, it just put me through that whole round of like thinking of that.

1:07:52Speaker 3:In all fairness, it was rare to be killed in a joust. You could be, obviously, but it was rare to be killed in a joust.

1:07:59Speaker 2:That's not how it looks in Game of Thrones. It looks like that's the whole, like people are just getting pulled off, right?

1:08:05Speaker 3:Well, no, you're getting pulled off and you're slamming off the horse and you're falling down. You're doing that, but you're usually not dying because you're in so much armor. So they usually have to cut you out of the armor afterwards if you're hit. It's one point on the chest and two points in the head, I believe. And because the helmet sweeps back, so the head's a lot harder of a target to hit.

1:08:23Speaker 1:There was a show.

1:08:25Speaker 3:They literally did a reality show like six or seven years ago where they started jousting.

1:08:30Speaker 1:It was full-on jousting again. Like straight up, full-on jousting.

1:08:36Speaker 2:I can't.

1:08:37Speaker 1:Yeah.

1:08:38Speaker 2:That idea. Those kinds of things seem so barbaric and so of not our time. That is unbelievable.

1:08:46Speaker 3:I remember a guy got kicked off the show for punching a horse in the.

1:08:50Speaker 1:Face because the horse stood on his foot and he punched.

1:08:53Speaker 3:The horse in the face and the guys went over to him like, what the hell are you doing? And kicked him right out. He was just like, you're gone. They kicked him off the show.

1:09:00Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Google it. I wonder if you can watch it somewhere, but yeah. Crazy show.

1:09:06Speaker 2:On a lighter note.

1:09:08Speaker 1:Yeah.

1:09:10Speaker 2:Every time this Merlin with his magic.

1:09:14Speaker 4:Yes.

1:09:15Speaker 1:Yeah. That's how magic works, Sabrina.

1:09:20Speaker 2:It's just like the body movement.

1:09:24Speaker 1:Yeah.

1:09:25Speaker 2:So flashy.

1:09:27Speaker 1:You clearly you clearly don't know what's going on.

1:09:30Speaker 2:I was like, I don't ever see that in the card tricks that happen at Magic Castle. And there you didn't. I thought you were for sure going to highlight how quickly she goes from not even being able to balance or walk to like. charging past when she's having a conversation, that whole, like her getting comfy in that armor was so quick. It didn't, it was a thing that I don't think you'd see. We'd, we'd need that nowadays. And like, you'd need a better progression.

1:10:02Speaker 3:If you ever, the next time you go to England, you go to London, go to the tower of London, take the tour. One of the things you pass by is the armor room and they have a King Henry the eighth, some of his armor, like growing up.

1:10:12Speaker 1:And the last one of the last ones he wore was, it's the full night for when he's a big fat guy, but then it just has this huge space for his junk. Like, I mean like this giant thing, like just a giant junk pile right there. Just boom on display. It's pretty. It's like, look how big I am, sir. It's crazy. You got to go check that out.

1:10:35Speaker 2:He doesn't fight in it ever. Right. That would be, I would assume something that was protected as well.

1:10:42Speaker 4:Crazy.

1:10:44Speaker 2:And then, okay. This is a big one. When she goes to do her fighting, did you not... A lot of times you and I are on the same wavelength. I hope this is true. Because of her knowledge of science, this is so simple too. I mean, if it's coming in my head, it's got to be a simple science. I really thought she.

1:11:07Speaker 1:Was going to blow out... She was going to blow him up with dimite? No.

1:11:09Speaker 4:No.

1:11:10Speaker 2:I thought because he had all his medals, she was going to have some type of magnetic, like how she was trying to be magical. Oh, smart. And have like magnetic like ninja stars that she was going to have that like just like charged right at him. I was waiting for that. Like the whole song and dance she did, at some point I thought she was going to be like, whoop-ah! And then like all of it just started like daggering at him.

1:11:30Speaker 1:Oh, interesting.

1:11:31Speaker 2:And they're going, the sorcery! I like totally thought that was coming.

1:11:35Speaker 3:Magnets would have been good or something heat where she just heats them up in the suit.

1:11:38Speaker 2:Yes something like i was like her like for me that was a missed opportunity because her knowledge of yeah how things work use of science was was her magic at that power like right like be like the eclipse that knowledge right yeah of like to me i felt like that was like a missed opportunity um and the last thing was um again not something i'd love to admit but I didn't know where the hell this boombox came from. I didn't see it drop from the heavens with her. I just knew that music kept playing. I wasn't sure if anyone else could hear the music or if she just heard.

1:12:17Speaker 1:It in her head.

1:12:17Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I think she wasn't crazy. I think they had the boom bop. I don't recall it being there, but they must have. I bet you if you go back and you freeze it, it's there somewhere.

1:12:25Speaker 2:When you said it, when we were going over it, it must have, yeah, like fallen. But like when it was playing and she was working and grooving, it was never shown on camera.

1:12:35Speaker 1:To be able to see. Until the end.

1:12:37Speaker 2:Until the very end. And when that happened, I was like, Oh, okay, she had a blue box.

1:12:41Speaker 3:Well, I love the clearly 80-yard line they had to put in. So she lands there, and then as he's pushing her up to the castle from the long shot for the first time, She's.

1:12:50Speaker 1:Like, be careful with all my stuff. Don't forget you put it in your bags.

1:12:53Speaker 4:Oh.

1:12:54Speaker 3:Because it's like, okay, we have to remind the folks that, yes, they picked it up. They put it in his bags.

1:13:00Speaker 1:She still got all the stuff. Don't forget, you put it in your bags.

1:13:04Speaker 2:Like, okay. Oh, that's funny. I didn't pick up on that. That's funny. So, yeah, that boom box was my last one.

1:13:09Speaker 1:Nice.

1:13:10Speaker 3:Well, now we, of course, come to the portion of our program where we are scoring the film we just saw. We're going to go one out of ten. We're going to make 10 the biggest.

1:13:24Speaker 1:One's going to be the smallest. Okay.

1:13:26Speaker 3:And here are our options this week. You already know what's coming, don't you? One out of 10 not cool at all relationships. One out of 10 ABC music budgets.

1:13:35Speaker 1:Booty prizes. One out of 10 hooves. One out of 10 skin boots. Bear fighters.

1:13:42Speaker 3:Dynamite recipes. One out of 10 night armor pee. One out of 10 cringers. Or, of course, the one we're going to go with. Do you want to say it or should I? Because you know what's coming.

1:13:52Speaker 1:One out of ten blue Peters. That's what we're going with. Of course we are. I'm picking. I don't care. I think, do I go first this time?

1:14:02Speaker 2:I actually think I go first.

1:14:04Speaker 1:Beautiful. Love it.

1:14:06Speaker 2:So, like I said, I liked this movie.

1:14:09Speaker 1:It was.

1:14:10Speaker 2:Whoopi Goldberg just makes things so easy to watch. She's fun. She's endearing. Like I liked her character. I liked that. She was trying to not take advantage. Like she wasn't trying to bring, I did find it weird that she was obviously not gone through the Wilfred L like Academy of time travel. Thank you to know that you can't just start screwing it up. But like, You can't just start bringing inventions and taking credit for it.

1:14:38Speaker 1:Yeah. Here's dynamite. My God.

1:14:41Speaker 2:Like you can't take credit for that. But at the same time, she wasn't trying to do that and then like make money off of it. Right. Like she was just trying to help out and make this like place that she was at better. I really liked her character. There were times where things kind of just didn't make sense. How she was pulled back in. The fact that she never really cared much. Like we just didn't know enough about her. who she was before we were dropped into this world, but it was an easy watch. I thought it was funny. I thought the character, the actors were hilarious.

1:15:11Speaker 2:Like I just, it worked for me. It was an easy watch. Um, I probably wouldn't watch it like again, like I don't need, I don't need to watch it again, but I did enjoy my time and it was a solid 6.5 blue Peters.

1:15:28Speaker 4:Wow. Okay.

1:15:29Speaker 1:Um, I am, Exactly there with you.

1:15:33Speaker 3:That same exact number was in my head because of all the same reasons you said.

1:15:38Speaker 1:Look, some of it didn't make a whole lot of sense. It's Whoopi Goldberg.

1:15:41Speaker 3:So you get two points instantly for just being Whoopi Goldberg and being entertaining and fun.

1:15:48Speaker 1:It looked great. The acting was good. I thought my only problems with it were script related. I mean, never were. And again, it might be my ignorance, frankly.

1:15:59Speaker 3:That I had some problems with because maybe everyone's like, no, that's what a Connecticut Yankee, that's what it's about. And this is blah, blah, blah. And it's like, okay, I understand that then. Then I'd be screwing it up.

1:16:09Speaker 1:But I agree with you 100%. Exactly. 6.5 Blue Peters was exactly where I was going to be. So there you go. Thank you, everybody.

1:16:16Speaker 2:It's no wonder we don't get a lot of writers on our show.

1:16:19Speaker 1:Yeah, it's true. I think that's true. Well, I mean, the ones we do get are the legends.

1:16:24Speaker 2:Yeah, the Stu Kriegers.

1:16:25Speaker 1:Yeah, we get the Stu Kriegers. We don't need anyone.

1:16:27Speaker 2:When you get a Stu Krieger, you don't really need another writer.

1:16:29Speaker 1:Exactly. You got the Daddy Decom. You're all good to go. Our next recap, by the way, we are returning to.

1:16:34Speaker 3:Disney Channel's original spooky franchise, finally tackling 2004's Halloween Town High, the third film of the trilogy.

1:16:43Speaker 1:I am and I'm not. I think they did My Girl Dirty. Oh. Yeah. Kimberly's a friend.

1:16:49Speaker 2:Oh, man, I forgot about that.

1:16:51Speaker 1:So, you know, Kimberly, did you talk to Kimberly at the party?

1:16:54Speaker 2:That changes it. Briefly, briefly. The party was so wild in the sense of, like, There were so many people you wanted to see. I mean, you were obviously everywhere, but there were a lot of people you were like, oh, hey, trying to talk, but you're also wanting to kind of keep moving.

1:17:11Speaker 1:Of course, yeah.

1:17:12Speaker 2:Get a chance to talk to everyone.

1:17:13Speaker 3:And Kimberly's a friend, and she was awesome in the first two. Is it this one that she's not in, or is it the next one?

1:17:19Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't remember, because I only had ever watched the first one.

1:17:23Speaker 3:Oh, no, it says, finally closing out one of the most popular IPs in the peak era.

1:17:27Speaker 2:Okay, so it has to be.

1:17:27Speaker 1:So, yeah. So, I will keep my.

1:17:30Speaker 3:my, my mind open as I watch it, but you're, you know, you did a friend of mine dirty, so I don't like that.

1:17:35Speaker 1:So we'll, we'll figure out what's going on, but check it out.

1:17:39Speaker 3:You can watch it on Disney plus whenever you like, feel free to work ahead. And this week we are back with a very special park hopper episode.

1:17:46Speaker 1:Indeed.

1:17:46Speaker 3:A little bonus that drops exclusively on our dedicated podcast feed. And this week we chatted with a DCOM legend. We've talked about him so many times on the show.

1:17:56Speaker 1:Yeah.

1:17:57Speaker 3:I mean, We're so excited to finally get a chance to talk to Mitchell Musso. Yes, Hatching Pete, which is our first ever attempt at this podcast. It seems like a thousand years ago. Life is rough and all the soundtracks he worked on. He is Disney Channel royalty. We got to talk to him about it. So here's a little sneak peek.

1:18:17Speaker 5:And funny enough, I was actually a fan of.

1:18:20Speaker 2:Of that.

1:18:21Speaker 1:So Raven in the audience for a taping. Okay. Oh, so you were like a real fan. Yeah, dude.

1:18:27Speaker 5:Don't think Oliver doesn't have a ton of. I love Will so much. I, you know, and growing up, Boy Meets World was only on television every day, all day on ABC, but, but Oliver has a lot of Will in him.

1:18:45Speaker 3:That one is a long time in the making and we're to cross another DCOM legend off the list.

1:18:50Speaker 1:Thank you.

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1:18:56Speaker 3:Also hear all of the episodes of Sabrina's newest spinoff, Solo Endeavor, Once Upon a Headline, where she keeps us up to date on every single piece of Disney news that we need to know if it has to do with the mouse. Come to Sabrina's house because she's going to be able to tell you everything about that.

1:19:12Speaker 1:Thank you very much, everybody. And we'll see you next time.

1:19:14Speaker 2:Bye.