Season 3, Episode 108 · Houshivar Podcast پادکست هشیوار
تکامل فراتر از ژنها: حیات و انتخاب طبیعی داروین با دکتر بنیامین فراهانی
29 May 2026 · 1 hr 8 min
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آیا در زیستشناسی و انتخاب طبیعی، DNA واقعاً همهچیز است؟ سالها زیستشناسی مدرن تحت تأثیر نگاه ژنمحور و «سنتز نوین فرگشت» قرار داشت؛ دیدگاهی که ژنها را واحد اصلی انتخاب طبیعی و تعیینکنندهی بنیادین حیات میدانست. اما یافتههای جدید در ژنتیک، زیستشناسی سامانهها (Systems Biology)، اپیژنتیک، زیستشناسی تکوینی (Evo-Devo)، علوم اعصاب و نظریه سیستمهای پیچیده نشان دادهاند که حیات — و حتی خودِ انتخاب طبیعی — بسیار پیچیدهتر از یک کد خطی ژنتیکی و مدلهای سادهی انتخاب است. در این اپیزود بررس...
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Houshivar Podcast پادکست هشیوار
Mehdi Shafa · Tech & Science · English
در طول این پادکست، من «مهدی شفا» یک کتاب غیرداستانی مربوط به ژنتیک، فرگشت، مغز، ذهن ورفتارانسان رو خلاصه و خدمت شما تعریف میکنم. این تلاشی است در جهت افزایش آگاهی، تفکر نقادانه و سنجشگر و بینش علمی در بین فارسی زبانان. Summarizing and explaining books related to human brain, biology,
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S3 · E103 · 20 May 2026 · 1 hr 23 min
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