Episode 553 | Lethal Injection

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0:49Speaker 1:Did we just start the episode with a bleep and not keep? No, no, we keeping all of this.

0:53Speaker 2:This is a conversation. Baby D about to be mad in here, but it's all right. Oh, First of all, how are y'all feeling?

1:00Speaker 3:How y'all doing? Baby, do you good? I'm all right. You feel good? I'm okay. It's about a dry October. Remember we talked about it? We said we was going to do it together. Today's the first, right? Yeah, today's the first. I said she misses wine. So how you feeling?

1:12Speaker 4:How you... How you feel?

1:15Speaker 1:Tell somebody how they feel.

1:16Speaker 3:Day one. 12 hours into this. It's been... 12 hours into the day. Well, 14. Even 14 hours.

1:25Speaker 1:14 hours in, baby. How you feeling? Shit. You holding on strong?

1:28Speaker 3:You gonna make it? Shit, Ruff, you niggas annoying me already. I want to drink bad. Yo, asking somebody if they gonna make dry... What is it?

1:36Speaker 1:Know what?

1:37Speaker 3:Dry October and no nut November.

1:39Speaker 1:Dry October. Well, just do what alcoholics do and go get some coffee.

1:44Speaker 3:I would've went with you. You want something, man?

1:46Speaker 2:Is that like what Alkies do? They get coffee instead of.

1:48Speaker 1:I feel like all AA meetings have a lot of coffee at them. Coffee and cigarettes.

1:52Speaker 3:Coffee, pastries. Yeah. Yeah.

1:55Speaker 1:Yeah.

1:55Speaker 3:That's the thing at the AA's. I'm just going to stick with water. Good old H2O.

1:59Speaker 1:Okay.

2:00Speaker 2:Listen, man, if you need to talk any time of night where you feel like you about to, you know, relapse, just call me.

2:06Speaker 3:You going to answer?

2:07Speaker 4:Yeah.

2:08Speaker 3:We do this all the time. When have you ever called... No, we're not going to get into it. No, listen.

2:14Speaker 2:When have you ever called my phone and I didn't answer? Not text, not respond to a text.

2:18Speaker 3:It's okay. These cameras on. You acting like this because these cameras on, but it's okay.

2:22Speaker 2:Damaris, you have never called my phone and I didn't answer. And if I didn't answer, I'd call right back like in five minutes.

2:27Speaker 3:Right or wrong? Okay.

2:29Speaker 1:See, I texted you last night, right?

2:31Speaker 3:You did? Yes. texting me bullshit more texting bullshit i had to text like you for real are we giggling yeah.

2:37Speaker 2:The marriage was trying to like gauge if i was joking or not i was dying that was what we're just talking about all my giggling or not i said i'm in here dying i'm just like i thought he was being dead serious i'm like what a guy what we doing right now i'm never serious the marriage if i text your phone nine times out of ten i am never serious like.

2:56Speaker 3:Serious as fuck the last time you text people we ain't gonna talk about that Oh, well, that was a different circumstance.

3:01Speaker 2:Different scenario than the one from yesterday. Different scenario, different climate, yeah. Yesterday was all funnies, nothing to be serious about. How you feeling, man?

3:09Speaker 1:You good?

3:09Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel great.

3:10Speaker 2:All right, well, then we're off to talk about the culture. But before we do that.

3:15Speaker 1:I'm not participating in No Nut November, though.

3:17Speaker 3:I want to make that clear. Bitch, you ain't get no nuts last month.

3:20Speaker 1:I asked y'all last episode, does that mean like self-induced nuts? And you guys said, yeah.

3:25Speaker 3:Yeah.

3:26Speaker 1:You can't, you can't, you can't. I'm cool, man.

3:28Speaker 3:I know I don't get pussy, but. I get meat.

3:35Speaker 1:My boy that's locked up, right?

3:37Speaker 3:He called me. That's a wild transition. He called me.

3:41Speaker 1:He was like, this was like three weeks ago.

3:42Speaker 2:He was like, yo, man, I need you to hold me accountable.

3:45Speaker 3:I was like, I said, yo, you're in prison. What are you talking about? They can't hold you accountable. Like the judge can't. How the fuck do you expect me? The state of New York has held you accountable.

3:53Speaker 1:I'm like, what are you talking about? He was like, nah, man.

3:55Speaker 3:He was like, yo, man, I'm telling you, man, I just don't want to, I don't want to masturbate no more.

4:00Speaker 1:I'm like, all right, what you want.

4:02Speaker 3:Me to do?

4:04Speaker 2:I'm trying to be the supportive friend out in the free world. You know, I'm here to listen, I'm here to help.

4:08Speaker 3:The same way you are with Baby D with her. Yeah, I mean, I help.

4:10Speaker 2:Like, listen, you're behind the wall, you're in the cell. Listen, I can, you know, I understand life is a little rougher for you than it is for me. So what do you need from me? How do you want me to hold you accountable? He's like, nah, man, I need you to do it with me.

4:21Speaker 3:Yeah. Bitch, I'm free as fuck. You crazy? I said, yo, I'm not doing a bit.

4:30Speaker 1:One of the number one reasons not to get locked up.

4:34Speaker 3:I'm like, yo, what? Like, what you mean? He's like, nah, man, you can't jerk off either. Like, what?

4:41Speaker 1:I am in my home, bro. Oh, man. Yo, that's mad for me.

4:49Speaker 3:That feels like a silly thing. Yeah, I'm like, what? I don't know if I'm the right person to do this for you.

4:53Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like, yo, bro. Listen, man, just, you know, stay strong. Stay focused today, man.

4:58Speaker 3:How often is he beaten off in jail that he feel the need to, like, stop?

5:02Speaker 2:You have a lot of time on your hands. Yeah, his thing was more so like he don't want to do it at all. like at all he doesn't want to like he was he was that's what he's saying he's like yo man i think this shit is stupid like first of all look where i'm at there ain't no chicks in here like why i'm getting horny like.

5:16Speaker 3:I'm depressed when i beat off at home and i look up at myself disgusted looking up and it's like mad like cells around me like.

5:23Speaker 2:Now he has a cell by himself let me make that clear he doesn't have a cell that's like the ritz then yeah i probably beat off too he has a cell he has his own little you know tv and everything like you know So, you know, I don't know. I don't know what he's finding, what he's watching, you know.

5:37Speaker 3:I was about to say his own TV, what's on there? The price is right? Like, what are you beating off to? It ain't like they got.

5:42Speaker 1:Jerking off to Bob Barker is crazy.

5:44Speaker 3:Like, it ain't like they got fucking... I said 100, not 101.

5:46Speaker 4:Like.

5:47Speaker 3:Under, under. They not putting fucking Nelly videos on the TV. Like, what are you.

5:55Speaker 1:I mean, when you locked up, I guess, I don't know.

5:56Speaker 3:Beat off to fucking, like, Sears magazines and shit. He watching The View getting it off.

6:02Speaker 4:Man.

6:03Speaker 3:You adapt to your environment. Yeah. You watching The View reruns?

6:07Speaker 1:I got a strong imagination.

6:09Speaker 3:I got to wait for him to call me and just make sure I just, you know, I guess I got to hold him accountable.

6:13Speaker 1:What was your answer?

6:13Speaker 2:Hey, you haven't been touching yourself, have you? You been in there touching yourself? There's no nothing November coming up.

6:22Speaker 3:I don't know, man.

6:24Speaker 1:Is there like a drug test version of that? Like, how do you find out if he's lying or not? Yeah.

6:30Speaker 3:Like, how do you know you're keeping it real? You being honest? Like, yo, you being honest, I don't know, but you look flush. Nigga look peaceful.

6:36Speaker 1:Yeah, you look flush, man.

6:38Speaker 3:I have a lot of experience with addicts, and I can tell you're lying.

6:41Speaker 1:Yeah, you're lying, man. You're lying.

6:42Speaker 2:But, you know, I don't know about no nut November, but have at it, baby D. You doing no nut November too?

6:49Speaker 3:Mm-hmm. Okay, but that.

6:54Speaker 1:Means you could just have, like, wax sex. All right, bring your rose. Go bring your rose and leave it in here.

7:00Speaker 3:We'll put it in a lockbox. We're going to put the rose right here.

7:05Speaker 1:Next to the candle. Baby D.

7:09Speaker 3:Give me all your tools. Bring the rose.

7:12Speaker 1:Bring whatever you got at home. Bring your whole.

7:14Speaker 2:Little night bag and just leave it right there in the corner, man.

7:18Speaker 3:You can't leave it. Don't put it here.

7:20Speaker 1:No, we'll cover it.

7:21Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't want to stare at it while I'm at work.

7:23Speaker 1:I'll put it in a Ziploc bag like evidence.

7:25Speaker 2:You know, just put it in the corner somewhere. But you got to bring all your trinkets. Don't You can't have no rose in the house.

7:31Speaker 3:Okay. Ryan, don't use my shit when I'm not looking. Ew.

7:35Speaker 1:A dude using a rose is crazy.

7:37Speaker 3:It's fucking nuts.

7:40Speaker 1:What you using it on?

7:41Speaker 3:Your nipples?

7:43Speaker 2:What would a guy use a rose for?

7:47Speaker 3:You can use it on your tip. You can use it on your balls. On your balls? You ever had a girl hum on your balls? Yes, it's similar to that sensation. Okay. Thank you. Got you. You've ever had a girl hum on your balls? Had a hummingbird.

8:05Speaker 1:Yeah.

8:05Speaker 3:Oh, man. That's a double entranja. I don't even ask you how. All right.

8:10Speaker 2:Well, speaking of beat, Shorty beat. This is news coming out of Tennessee. Governor Bill Lee has paused the capital punishment on Thursday and called for review. of the state's policy on how it puts people to death. This came after Krista Pike, who was.

8:31Speaker 3:On death row.

8:32Speaker 2:She survived two doses of lethal drug pentobarbital, which is supposed to send you to greener pastures immediately. And this is the state's second botched execution. Man, just give her some bad fint. That'll knock her out in one little hit.

8:49Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you survive.

8:52Speaker 3:Because she's the fucking devil.

8:53Speaker 2:She's not the devil.

8:56Speaker 1:Well, Death Row would.

8:57Speaker 3:Say she is.

8:58Speaker 2:They was trying to send her to where she belonged and where she came from.

9:01Speaker 1:Do you know what she did to the woman that she thought was flirting with her man?

9:05Speaker 3:I do know what she did and she does deserve to be punished.

9:07Speaker 1:She brought part of the skeleton to school to show everybody.

9:10Speaker 3:Everybody has the reasons they do things. I'm not sticking up for her. She deserves it. Are you sure? My point, my point is she doesn't deserve to be punished. If you believe in a death penalty, she deserves to be put to the death penalty. There's no doubt about that. But the devil. No, she deserves her fair shake. Her life should be taken like shorty. But you don't know people's stories and why and how they end up the way that they are. The devil is you just born evil.

9:39Speaker 3:And I don't think a lot of people are born evil. Sometimes the devil will jump in you. Sometimes.

9:43Speaker 1:You start off cool.

9:43Speaker 3:But then there's some times that you have, you survive very horrific shit and it turns you into a horrific person. Not an excuse, but. Sure.

9:50Speaker 1:But how do we know she wasn't just born evil based off?

9:54Speaker 3:Because they tell her, the people that were trying to stay her as execution told her story.

9:58Speaker 1:Okay, got you.

9:59Speaker 3:I only know the details.

10:00Speaker 1:Of the crime yeah.

10:01Speaker 3:Yeah from her parents multiple times raped multiple times like mentally fucked up like yeah so but yeah nah she definitely needs to be she need to go but I feel like if you beat this if you beat the two lethal injections God still want me here like the state of Tennessee can't override God like God still want me here God ain't take his hand off me he ain't take his hand off me shit y'all gotta let me rock the weapon.

10:26Speaker 2:Formed against me shall prosper that's what I'd have been saying I'd have been in that motherfucker's no weapon.

10:36Speaker 3:Two rounds of lethal injection and I'm still in? You think she's really into Christ? That's what you think?

10:40Speaker 1:I mean, if she wasn't, she is now.

10:42Speaker 3:And I'm still in the motherfucking house.

10:44Speaker 2:Yeah, like, so, I mean, I don't know what this means, though.

10:47Speaker 3:I'm not sure.

10:47Speaker 1:I think you could pray to that other side and the other side might keep you alive, too. I don't know why y'all keep thinking it's God.

10:53Speaker 3:Somebody say, even hell didn't want her. Yeah.

10:57Speaker 1:That's crazy.

10:58Speaker 3:Does she get another last meal? I think she refused her last meal, actually. Oh, did she? Yeah. Well, now you got to get like some Chipotle or something. No, first of all, I just found out that the last meal has to be made in a prison. And it can't be worth more than $ 10. That's gotta be new. $ 10 or $ 20.

11:16Speaker 1:Because I've read on Instagram, which is definitely factually true.

11:20Speaker 3:It might be according to the state, but I think it can't exceed like $ 10 or $ 20 or something like that.

11:25Speaker 1:And didn't like Outback have some scandal where like they gave some mass murder, like the last meal and Outback was like, chill.

11:31Speaker 3:We don't like we know it was going there.

11:33Speaker 2:Oh yeah i mean we just made the steak spending caps uh states that permit special meals and for strict budget limits such as a 40 limit in florida department of corrections and a 25 limit in oklahoma.

11:44Speaker 3:And tennessee is 20 what the hell they was getting arby's the food must be purchased locally or prepared directly in a prison kitchen.

11:53Speaker 2:Wow i mean not that they need uh They don't need crustaceans or nothing like that. Get his ass out of there. It's not like you're going to enjoy it. If you know this is your last meal, can you even taste that shit? Nah, I should say like cardboard.

12:07Speaker 3:Yeah, everything.

12:07Speaker 2:My taste buds don't even work if I know this is the last thing I'm about to eat.

12:10Speaker 5:Yeah.

12:11Speaker 2:And then y'all about to walk me down the hall in 10 hours and kill me?

12:14Speaker 3:I can't taste this shit.

12:15Speaker 1:Nah, because John Wayne Gacy, the clown guy, he got KFC. I mean, it was under $ 40 probably.

12:23Speaker 3:Yeah. Especially at that time.

12:24Speaker 2:$ 20.

12:29Speaker 3:At KFC in what was that the 90s?

12:33Speaker 2:You could have ate for a month $ 40 at KFC that's why I understand my mom's like we got food upstairs this.

12:40Speaker 1:Is $ 3 $ 3.

12:41Speaker 3:Add up little nigga $ 19.

12:43Speaker 1:94 in Illinois yeah $ 40 you could probably franchise at KFC come on man you could have bought.

12:53Speaker 3:The joint $ 40 you big balling in 94 what would you guys last meal be? that's a really good question.

13:01Speaker 1:Is it yeah i don't i've never thought about that like my absolute last last meal yeah i need a porterhouse it probably it probably um medium it'd have to probably be a steak steakhouse mac and cheese steaks and mashed potatoes yeah i probably probably go that route.

13:18Speaker 6:The pizza shrimp scampi shrimp scampi look what peas want to eat you lying first of all you want a funnel cake you want corn dog you want all carnival food.

13:30Speaker 2:Give me the carnival buffet like i want all carnival.

13:35Speaker 3:Food peach bought kai candy peanuts cracker jacks and corn dogs into the office.

13:41Speaker 2:Celebrating the yankees win man that's all oh my god would you want to be all bloated up there on the chair It really doesn't.

13:48Speaker 3:Rory, I promise you. People get to watch. I don't want to have gas and people watching me in a choir room.

13:56Speaker 1:Or, I mean, there is that when some people are killed and they're about to shit their bowels, like you sometimes shit when you die. Maybe like if you really wanted to make a statement. You get as much sloppy Joe as you can. And shit when you die for everybody.

14:15Speaker 2:You know what I never understood? People that be on death row, when they be walking them to the chair, they be actually walking. You niggas would have to drag them.

14:23Speaker 3:But why do all of that? No matter what, you're going to get there anyway. I'm going out with a fight. I'm not just walking to my death chair. You don't want your honorable death? Fuck no. Nah, I'm walking with my head high.

14:34Speaker 1:Fuck that.

14:34Speaker 3:Gel mascara on. Bad bitch.

14:37Speaker 2:Oh, that shit about to get singed. Them fake lashes. All of that about to burn in 10 seconds. It's going to smell like burnt rice in 10 minutes.

14:50Speaker 1:Hell nah.

14:52Speaker 3:They be walking just a couple. What?

14:54Speaker 1:Nah, I'm not going out like that. Nah, you got to go out like John Coffey.

14:58Speaker 3:Nah, nah.

15:00Speaker 2:I'm going out like, who was that one dude that was kicking and screaming? They had to put the, they had to tie him up like a hog. They had to carry me in there like luggage.

15:10Speaker 1:I'm not walking. Walk to the chair. Walk right there and sit down.

15:15Speaker 3:Get the nigga. Walk right there and sit down.

15:18Speaker 1:Are y'all about to fry me?

15:19Speaker 3:It's not happening. So you're going to what? Assault a guard to the point where they got to shoot you? It don't matter.

15:23Speaker 1:What you going to give me? More time? It don't matter. I'm fighting, kicking, biting. It's going to be rough getting me to this chair. Well, what's sicker is the practice they do. Well, obviously, they don't do the chair anymore. And I'm only going off what I watched in the Green Mile. But they did dress rehearsals. You're not about to drag me to the chair to dress rehearse my death.

15:42Speaker 3:Are you serious? You never saw The Green Mile? No. They do a practice run the day before. I think I was very, very young. A lot of movies I watched when I was like damn near a baby.

15:51Speaker 1:You should watch it. It's one of those movies you have to see type thing.

15:55Speaker 2:That's like the movie that they would show you like in school on movie day. Like they would definitely like. But Green Mile would take two days to watch.

16:02Speaker 3:Yeah.

16:03Speaker 2:They would definitely drag that out and turn that on.

16:05Speaker 3:That's definitely one of those movies.

16:07Speaker 1:But yeah, they, to be honest, they did like a practice run the day before where they take you from your cell, they sit you in the thing and they do like a pretend situation.

16:17Speaker 3:Now that's crazy. And not knowing they didn't wet the sponge. I don't know. Maybe you deserve to get cooked that way. Nah, John Kofi? Nah, the other guy.

16:27Speaker 1:Remember when Percy got his first go at it? It was a dude that had the mouse, right?

16:34Speaker 4:Yeah.

16:35Speaker 3:Didn't wet the sponge.

16:37Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know. At this point, is it Double Jeopardy? For, what's her name?

16:45Speaker 3:Krista? Yeah.

16:47Speaker 2:Nah, they gonna make sure they go through with this. Now, you were saying something very interesting before we started, Roy. This is the Second time or first time? I believe it was the first time.

16:56Speaker 3:First time that they had an all-female staff.

17:00Speaker 1:According to the New York Post, which is very relevant.

17:02Speaker 3:According to the New York Post, allegedly.

17:04Speaker 2:This is the first time they had an all-female staff in charge of the state's execution.

17:09Speaker 1:They did not have Tom Hanks at the helm.

17:13Speaker 2:So do we think that this is a case of maybe one of the women on staff felt bad?

17:19Speaker 3:Women looking out for women?

17:21Speaker 1:Yeah, and instead of.

17:22Speaker 3:For a woman that killed a woman.

17:23Speaker 2:Instead of putting the dough she was supposed to, maybe she put, like, you know, some ivy, like, something to, like, hydrate her or something.

17:29Speaker 3:Just saline?

17:31Speaker 1:Yeah, a little saline.

17:32Speaker 2:Like, you know, let's not... I'm just saying, like, it could be a case, right?

17:36Speaker 3:It could be a case.

17:37Speaker 2:We've seen crazy things happen. Ten years from now, we get word that one of the women on the thing was a distant relative or distant friend of.

17:45Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.

17:46Speaker 2:And decided to switch vows and was like... It could be anything.

17:49Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.

17:51Speaker 1:I'm just saying.

17:52Speaker 2:That would be a good SVU episode.

17:54Speaker 1:Oh, I'm sure they're already shooting this right now.

17:57Speaker 3:Outside.

17:58Speaker 1:It has nothing to do with sexual victims unit, but it'll be on Law.

18:01Speaker 3:& Order SVU for sure.

18:03Speaker 2:Medical experts said there were signals that an intravenous catheter, rather than directing the drug into the bloodstream, allowed it to leak into the tissue surrounding the insertion point because of how or where the IV was inserted because of the fragility of of Mrs.

18:21Speaker 1:Pike's veins or for another reason.

18:25Speaker 2:Such an outcome is known as IV infiltration and has been cited in past botched executions. Medical experts said that experienced doctors would typically be able to recognize signs of an IV infiltration as it occurred.

18:42Speaker 3:Experienced doctors would be able to recognize that.

18:47Speaker 1:I mean, I guess that I'm not for the death penalty, not in like any moral way. I think like as taxpayers, we pay too much for, for prisons in general, but I wouldn't mind my tax dollars going to like the monsters on the guilty monsters on death row to just rot in there for the rest of their lives. Like to me, that's worse than getting the easy way out of just having someone inject some shit.

19:15Speaker 3:And I'm going, no, I don't believe that.

19:18Speaker 2:It's easy to say that when you don't have a, somebody that you're close to that's a victim of one of these monsters.

19:23Speaker 1:I understand that, but I mean, what would be worse? Letting them suffer for another fucking 50 years or just they're done, clean. Why do you say suffer? I think.

19:36Speaker 3:Jail is not.

19:36Speaker 1:I don't know if y'all know this or not.

19:38Speaker 3:Do y'all know people in jail? Yeah, of course.

19:40Speaker 2:Jail is not as bad as y'all think it is. I don't know what y'all think is going on in prisons. You can do a very comfortable, very easy.

19:49Speaker 1:I'm saying.

19:50Speaker 2:go to school. You can get a trade. You can start making license plates and shit like that.

19:54Speaker 3:Do they still do the license plates?

19:55Speaker 1:I don't know. You can work out. You don't have to be.

20:00Speaker 2:Jail is not this place where you wake up every day and are just fighting for your life.

20:04Speaker 1:You could pay inmates for massages.

20:06Speaker 5:Yeah.

20:08Speaker 1:But jail also sucks, Walt. I hear what you're saying.

20:11Speaker 3:You could also get stabbed.

20:13Speaker 1:Yes.

20:13Speaker 3:I could get stabbed going to get fucking pizza right here. Fair.

20:17Speaker 1:But I think there's a higher chance of getting stabbed in prison than walking to get pizza right here.

20:20Speaker 2:Well, because there are more people that have stabbed in prison than it is, right?

20:25Speaker 1:So yes, it's a higher chance. But if you're in prison.

20:27Speaker 2:Just doing your time and minding your business, you're not in as much danger as people think.

20:32Speaker 1:You didn't let me finish. I know even people on death row have fucking TVs and shit. some of them are living better than people that are free i get that i'm saying if you remove the death part of death row and just make it a very very shitty environment for somebody for the rest of their lives.

20:50Speaker 2:Like put them in isolation for the rest of their life like.

20:52Speaker 1:You just dare you got no tv you don't get no books then to me that's fucking worse i don't know man Throwing me in a box with no windows, can't speak to nobody. I don't have a TV. I don't have nothing. I think that, kill me. Please kill me. The next 60 years of my life, I'm just sitting in darkness.

21:16Speaker 3:Just kill me.

21:16Speaker 1:Like, what are we talking about?

21:17Speaker 2:Yeah, but then taxpayers are still paying for these people.

21:20Speaker 1:Well, that's where I said, that's where I wouldn't mind paying that as opposed to somebody that has a fucking weed charge. That's costing $ 1, 500 a day. Yeah, but we ain't charged. You're not on fucking death row. I know. I'm saying I'd rather take the tax dollars to do that than for petty little charges where inmates are costing $ 1, 500 a day.

21:38Speaker 2:God forbid if one of my friend's kids was molested and they found the person, kill him or kill her.

21:45Speaker 3:But you don't get the death penalty for stuff like that.

21:48Speaker 1:I don't care, but I want them to die.

21:49Speaker 3:I agree with you, but I'm saying that's the shit that the death penalty goes to is not stuff like that.

21:55Speaker 2:You should get the death penalty for that. Anybody that rapes should kill him. Other countries do it. You rape in other countries? You're not going to trial. We're going to kill you tonight in 30 minutes. There's no reason to draw this thing out. Yeah, we know he raped this woman.

22:13Speaker 3:Kill him.

22:15Speaker 1:Very simple. And I mean, in this hypothetical, let's say everyone that is convicted is guilty because that's where things get fucked up because there's plenty of people that are wrongfully convicted even on death row we've seen like when dna got added in half a death row walked out because it's like oh they they just accused the wrong black guy yeah um let's just in this this fairy tale everyone's guilty what if a family of the peers got to decide what your sentence was i'm with that that would be fucking great i'm with that too like the family reunion gets together after and we all get to vote on what happens to this.

22:49Speaker 3:Person i'm telling y'all Lions Den. Lions wouldn't eat half these niggas though. Shit. Hungry Lions? Hungry, yeah.

22:59Speaker 2:Yeah, the hungry ones. Throw them down in that den. I tell you all the time, and let us watch. The same way we could watch all these streamers, stream that. Stream a convicted rapist that we know is guilty of it. Let's go to stream that. Show us him going in the Lions Den. Niggas will tighten up. Niggas will change their minds about how they're doing.

23:19Speaker 1:Yeah, crime. If your victim's family could decide what happened to you, I do think some people would think differently about crime. Definitely.

23:30Speaker 3:Definitely.

23:31Speaker 1:That would change how someone would go about doing something.

23:33Speaker 2:Just changing, like, the penalty for crimes, crime drops. Like, we see it in states, like, you get a harsher penalty for certain things now. It's like, that shit, the numbers... Drop. Imagine showing us somebody being thrown into the lion's den because the family said, that's what we want to happen to this person.

23:49Speaker 1:Imagine we could watch that.

23:51Speaker 3:Nobody, that crime that that gentleman did, nobody's doing that.

23:54Speaker 1:But a lot of the people that commit crimes that get you on death row are usually so sick in the head that the consequences aren't really on their mind. Like they could watch the lion shit and be like, yeah, it looks ill. I can't wait to get that attention. Some of these people really do that shit so they could be the serial killer type of person, but I don't know. I'm curious if this changes anything with our death row model.

24:18Speaker 3:Well, they've halted Tennessee's death row executions for the rest of the year. So she won't die for the rest of the year, at least. And then we'll see what happens. How often are people dying?

24:28Speaker 1:No death November for her.

24:29Speaker 3:No death November? No death December?

24:31Speaker 1:It's a dry October for her. She probably regrets not getting the last meal.

24:37Speaker 3:She's probably starving when she woke up. She might not be well. Well, they brought her to the hospital, but. Yeah, I was going to say she might not be well because those drugs are like supposed to like stop your heart, stop your breathing. Like when they said she was snoring, I'm like, I don't know about she's not asleep. Like she's struggling to breathe. So we don't know if oxygen was getting to her brain. We don't know what condition she's in right now.

25:00Speaker 1:I will say, though. They said that.

25:03Speaker 2:What we have been told is that she is in critical condition receiving life-saving care. And just to let you know. What is the point of that? Why is she receiving life-saving care? Y'all was just about to kill her. Now y'all giving her life-saving care?

25:17Speaker 1:For everyone that's listening to this that is against universal health care, please explain this one to me. There's people with no health insurance. And y'all was just trying to kill this bitch. And now y'all giving her life-saving care. what is like this is the world is crazy man and I'm having trouble getting an EpiPen for my daughter right now it's crazy man it's fucking nuts.

25:41Speaker 2:Oh well we'll have to see what happens to Krista Pike and you know if she makes it out of this critical condition that she's in if they save her life only to try to take it again.

25:55Speaker 3:This world is crazy how many death row inmates are killed each year.

26:00Speaker 1:Like, how big of an issue is this? Roughly 25 to 32. That's way more than I thought.

26:07Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't.

26:08Speaker 1:I assumed it was like one or two a year.

26:10Speaker 3:No, sometimes zero. More than that. Definitely more than that.

26:14Speaker 1:What do you think about everything with Puff? They throw him back in solitaire. Well, Diddy is a.

26:21Speaker 3:He's playing solitaire in there.

26:22Speaker 2:Diddy is reportedly, reportedly paying fellow inmates thousands of dollars a month to give him massages and cook his meals, do his laundry, and clean bathrooms before he uses them.

26:35Speaker 1:Sources also... I love the sources.

26:37Speaker 2:Sources also say he has access to Hennessy, contraband phones, and the jailbroken tablet he used to watch 50 Cent's documentary about him. And then a picture came out of Puff in jail with some type of phone.

26:53Speaker 3:I don't know if that's an iPhone.

26:54Speaker 2:Well, it was a video, too, of this. This is a screenshot of a video. Oh, the screenshot of a video. So somebody was in there recording him.

26:59Speaker 3:Yes.

27:00Speaker 5:Yeah.

27:00Speaker 2:Someone with an illegal phone recording him with an illegal phone. Or could it be somebody with a jail issue tablet that recorded him?

27:07Speaker 3:Can you do that with jail issue tablets?

27:08Speaker 1:I'm not sure.

27:09Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure you can't record. That's probably somebody that worked at the prison that he didn't pay on time that decided to snitch. Yeah.

27:18Speaker 1:But I don't know. I mean, this is jail shit. Like, he's not the only one.

27:22Speaker 3:Yeah, no.

27:23Speaker 2:I mean, Puff has money. I mean, if you have money and you're in prison, like I said, you can... You can have a very comfortable prison sentence. There's nothing you can't get. COs are bringing just about anything. iPhone costs probably like $ 5, 000.

27:39Speaker 3:To get into a prison.

27:41Speaker 1:Yeah.

27:41Speaker 2:I think Puff has $ 5, 000. You can get lobster tails, garlic mash. You can get chocolate lava cake. You can get all the things. COs got to bring it in on their shift. They come in for work. Just make a stop at Chili's or something. Give me the fried ice cream or.

28:01Speaker 3:Some shit like that.

28:03Speaker 1:He also lucked up by getting to Fort Dix. That's not far from New York City.

28:08Speaker 3:Yeah, not far.

28:09Speaker 2:Listen, at the end of the day, this is Puff. All of the COs know who he is. All of the inmates know who he is. And again, jail is this drug. Everything that's out here is in jail. You got COs that have sex with you for money. You know, prostitution. There's all of those things in there.

28:29Speaker 1:I mean, I'm sure a lot of the CEOs went to Puff first, not the other way around.

28:33Speaker 3:No, for a shit show. I'd have been first in line.

28:35Speaker 1:Like, what you need, man? This is how much it's going to cost.

28:37Speaker 3:What do you need?

28:37Speaker 1:Yeah, like, I mean, they're not going to make it difficult for him.

28:40Speaker 2:Because a CEO, you could, as a CEO, if you, you know, take care of Puff, you could probably make over $ 100, 000 easily. Just bringing him whatever he needs to make his sentence more comfortable. So, I mean, I don't think there's anybody that didn't know already that Puff had.

28:58Speaker 3:A cell phone in jail. Yeah.

29:00Speaker 2:Like, I can promise you, he definitely had a cell phone from the time he got there. Like, there's no surprise in that.

29:09Speaker 3:Paying for the fucking massages is crazy. Especially because you know Puff freaked out. Got them men in there rubbing on him. Why you say men? Are there going to be female COs massaging? It could. I would think that if it wasn't Puff.

29:22Speaker 1:But judging by the percentage... Gender based there.

29:26Speaker 3:And it also said his fellow inmates. He paid his fellow inmates. It said that in the article. Listen, man.

29:32Speaker 1:Oh, when I was on the Rock the Bells cruise, there was only that one guy masseuse left. Like sometimes if you got a kink in your neck, like sometimes. the guy's hands was better to get the knots out.

29:42Speaker 4:Yeah.

29:43Speaker 3:Their hands are bigger. Like they can cover more surface area. The same way I talk to my man, they got stronger jaws. Like men do some shit better than us.

29:51Speaker 2:Stronger jaws for massage? What does that have to do with a massage? Him having strong jaws.

29:56Speaker 3:It depends on what he massaging me.

29:58Speaker 2:That's very true but back to Rory you let a man massage you and rock the bells crew.

30:02Speaker 3:We had a whole we had a it was a segment we made a clip out.

30:06Speaker 2:Of it I'll be deleting that shit from the files.

30:09Speaker 1:No it wasn't like I wasn't laying down on like a rub down it was they gave me like a spa certificate as part of the whole thing and it was the last day and I hadn't used it so there was like you know what's the skin care shit called in a spa Oh, it makes it worse.

30:28Speaker 3:Yeah, facial.

30:31Speaker 1:But yeah, there was only a guy left to do. I didn't like lay down and have a man massage me. But I mean, he did massage my neck.

30:39Speaker 3:He gave you a facial and massaged your neck, your head.

30:41Speaker 4:Yeah.

30:42Speaker 3:All of that. He gave you a facial?

30:45Speaker 1:Yeah.

30:48Speaker 3:That's what's up. That's what's up.

30:52Speaker 1:We'll be back after these messages.

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31:43Speaker 3:Well, in other felonious news, have you guys heard about the latest Rick Ross accusations?

31:51Speaker 1:Yes.

31:52Speaker 3:Yeah. I saw it over the weekend that he was arrested. Girlfriend is, um, had him arrested for domestic violence. She posted a photo with a busted lip.

32:01Speaker 1:Um, so he was arrested for domestic violence charges. I did see the clip of, uh, his lawyer in court saying that he was a celebrity and could he get out quicker? And the judge was like, I don't know who you are.

32:13Speaker 3:I don't know.

32:15Speaker 1:I don't know why you thought that would be your strategy. Um, But yeah, I mean, I don't really have much on this outside of what was reported. I saw that Ross got on IG today, which is also like a sick thing of where we're at in just society. He's like, I'm out of court and I'm going to do a selfie video. But he said he is completely innocent on everything.

32:41Speaker 3:Battery in battery by strangulation.

32:45Speaker 1:The judge didn't know who he was?

32:48Speaker 3:I don't believe the judge, but. yeah why you don't believe the judge.

32:53Speaker 2:He should have blazed me officer william i used.

32:57Speaker 1:To be a plaintiff here.

33:00Speaker 3:All right it's me it's me mario okay go in the break room you'll see my photo.

33:11Speaker 2:You should have showed him his graduation picture the judge might be like oh my man like come on let him out of here man like.

33:21Speaker 1:Yeah, you got the Versace shirt on. Richard.

33:24Speaker 3:Yeah, William. Oh, that's Will.

33:26Speaker 1:Come on, man. That's a wild thing for a lawyer to say. But again, I haven't seen too many hearings where a lawyer has said like, yo, my client's a celebrity. Can you get out quicker?

33:42Speaker 2:Which means you haven't heard many cases. Every lawyer does that.

33:44Speaker 3:Yeah, because they say it's a dangerous, like a safety issue. Okay. Yeah. Not you should get special treatment because you're a celebrity.

33:51Speaker 2:That's the main thing they use to help try to get you out.

33:55Speaker 1:I've seen that it being a flight risk and then say my client is a celebrity like he can't be someone's going to see him. I've seen that part before but I've never seen we can't have him in a red jumpsuit because he's a celebrity.

34:07Speaker 3:What the fuck that mean?

34:09Speaker 2:That's what they said we can't have him in a red jumpsuit?

34:12Speaker 1:Said he's a celebrity who can't be in a red jumpsuit. It's bad for his image.

34:17Speaker 3:Well I mean We'll have to see.

34:19Speaker 2:Again, this is all alleged. You know, he'll have his day in court and we'll see what comes of it. But I guess his lawyer released a statement on his half.

34:34Speaker 1:No, he did. He went on Instagram as he walked out. Oh, he just got out? Okay.

34:39Speaker 2:So he said, I'm totally innocent of these fabricated allegations made against me. I'll be in Dubai tomorrow, Paris Saturday, and I plan on having A bowl of rigatoni with heavy marinara sundae.

34:49Speaker 3:I repeat, heavy marinara. Okay. 2026? Oh, I think the red jumpsuit was alluding to just safety as far as he can't be in a red jumpsuit. Safety issues. Drawing attention to him.

35:09Speaker 1:I guess if that's what everyone in Dade County wears, is there much difference? Yeah, I don't know about all that, but I mean, we'll see where this entire thing goes. You know, prayers to Jasmine. We'll see what this ends up.

35:27Speaker 3:Y'all are funny. Y'all are funny.

35:30Speaker 1:That's all I'm saying.

35:31Speaker 3:Okay, see. I just said y'all are funny.

35:34Speaker 1:All right, we can have this conversation.

35:36Speaker 3:We don't have to.

35:37Speaker 1:No, I will never be the person that takes... A situation as serious as domestic violence to now jump on somebody that I may have disagreements with and make a mockery out of the actual charge and seriousness of what's happening. I know 50 will go do it because that's what 50 does. But no, I've always found that odd whenever there was some and people were going back and forth and then something serious happens like a domestic violence charge. And now it becomes a back and forth between y'all and not the actual case of domestic violence. For Jasmine's sake, for everyone to know, I'm not going to make a little jokey jokes and fun shit about this just because I think Rick Ross is corny. No, yeah, I feel you.

36:20Speaker 1:It's not going to be a time now, like, let's try to get one up on Rick Ross because of this. Because to me, that's nasty.

36:25Speaker 3:That's nasty. I mean, but you can in your head think, like, see, God don't play about me. But to, like, to make it a thing. What's the death row chick? Me and her, God don't play about us. God don't play, yeah. So, but yeah, you're right.

36:37Speaker 1:I mean, that ain't why I ain't talking. I don't give a fuck.

36:39Speaker 2:I mean, hopefully Jazz is, you know, she's good and I'm not saying Ross is, you know, guilty.

36:44Speaker 3:I mean, that's between them. It's domestic.

36:48Speaker 2:But Obviously, they'll have their day in court and lawyers will have to do what they have to do. But I just don't really care about this shit because it's just nobody cares about this, if we're being honest. Who really cares about this?

37:00Speaker 3:But, Ma, we can say that about every single thing on this fucking list.

37:05Speaker 2:But domestic violence, we have a lot of data that proves people don't care about that.

37:10Speaker 1:He's not wrong.

37:12Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure.

37:13Speaker 2:We have a lot of data that proves people do not give a fuck about that.

37:16Speaker 3:No, they don't. If he is found guilty, his career will still, I don't know about flourish, because I don't know if it was flourishing now, but it will continue to do what it was doing previously. Yeah, I don't think this will affect anything. If anything, he'll get a bump from the contrarians who love supporting people that they think are being attacked. Yeah. Look what they're doing to this amazing man.

37:38Speaker 2:This case is not going to affect the cells of Bel Air. Not that anybody's buying that anyway, but nobody's... The trajectory will not go upwards. Yeah, the trajectory won't. We won't see a spike either way, either direction from this.

37:52Speaker 3:It won't happen.

37:53Speaker 4:Yeah.

37:53Speaker 1:Damaris, are you going to cop the Jezebel jacket that Remy had on? I would. Do you think she'll sell them?

38:03Speaker 3:She should. People are saying that she's too old for this and she's too corny. And my thing is. First, she's in the entertainment industry. And when you're in the entertainment industry, you got to be a little bit childish for longer than most people your age. Like that's part of being an entertainer. And entertainment is corny. Being an entertainer is corny. That's number one. Number two, you saying shit about me? I got like it's like if somebody call you fat, it's like we're crop top. Like you got to you got to lean into the slander, fighting against the arguable people, arguing with the commenters and the fans. Not leaning to that shit, Jezebel. I mean.

38:38Speaker 3:Make a remix. I've seen it work before.

38:40Speaker 1:Like when 50 and Cam were going back and forth and Cameron was screaming Curtis and like had the diss record. 50's original album title was Before I Self-Destruct, which yes, eventually did come out. But he pushed that album title because Cameron was screaming Curtis and named his album Curtis.

38:57Speaker 3:Yeah. It worked.

38:59Speaker 2:I mean, I get it, but I just feel like at some point.

39:02Speaker 1:You shouldn't be wearing a Jezebel jacket.

39:04Speaker 3:Not a Jezebel chain fire jacket. it's hard that's how i'm not mad at the jacket is remy single i don't.

39:10Speaker 1:Know if the millie's thing i don't know if that was a marketing thing for a record or if that was true i have no clue i really don't know.

39:18Speaker 2:She says she's single i'm gonna tell you because if i'm her her new man and she's now wearing a jacket in the chain that her ex-husband is calling her as her new man i would feel a way.

39:27Speaker 3:Okay I understand that I think the jacket Or the chain You didn't have to get both I think like the The jacket or the chain Would have been fine If.

39:35Speaker 2:Your ex-husband Makes a song About you calling her Jezebel And you get either one, a.

39:40Speaker 1:Jacket or a chain.

39:41Speaker 3:Like I said, if they're in a, if she's in a relationship, of course not. But if she's single, then it's all a part of, it's all a part of the, you're taking your real life, which is already all over the fucking world anyway, and making it entertainment.

39:53Speaker 1:I mean, if she's.

39:54Speaker 2:Single, she could, you know, I'm just saying if, if she wasn't and I'm her man, we would, it would be a conversation in that house. If she walked in with a, a chain that says Jezebel on it.

40:03Speaker 1:I told you, I would have had an issue when we brought up the hypothetical with Larry, Janae, and Big Sean. I'd have an issue if you dedicate an album to dissing your ex and I'm with you.

40:12Speaker 3:Yeah.

40:13Speaker 1:A jacket and chain? See, I still disagree with you.

40:17Speaker 3:I think that that's like, if the album sounds like whimsical whimsy, I mean, West Side Whimsy, nigga, you gotta just let that come out.

40:24Speaker 1:Like, I don't give a fuck how you feel. Just lie to me, said you wrote it at that time and you don't feel that way.

40:30Speaker 3:Cool.

40:30Speaker 1:But, If she was walking around with a jacket, nah, that's a little odd. But I mean, I don't know. It's all promo. What did you guys think of Remy's song?

40:45Speaker 3:I didn't hate it the way the internet did, but I didn't love it. I didn't hate it. Wasn't she singing on it? No, that was Kiki White.

40:53Speaker 1:I think she might have hummed a little bit.

40:55Speaker 3:She was harmonized a little bit, yeah. She was.

40:58Speaker 1:I mean, listen, I wasn't mad at the record itself. If you take Jezebel out of the context, it immediately became a response to Jezebel.

41:08Speaker 3:And to me, that was not. A proper response.

41:10Speaker 1:Yeah. It didn't live up to what Jezebel was. But if you take that out, then, you know, the record's not terrible.

41:17Speaker 3:Yeah. But not.

41:19Speaker 1:It doesn't.

41:20Speaker 3:She should have held that.

41:20Speaker 1:It doesn't compare to the greatest song of 2026.

41:22Speaker 3:Oh, please. Hate. All right.

41:26Speaker 1:All right. At what point does this stop, though?

41:32Speaker 3:You always ask that.

41:33Speaker 1:No, because if it continues....

41:40Speaker 3:Y'all still love each other? What's up, man? I ain't even going to get into that.

41:44Speaker 1:Because this is y'all way of communicating.

41:45Speaker 3:No tea, no shit.

41:46Speaker 2:Y'all might as well be in text messages. Y'all might as well be texting each other this shit. To me, this is just y'all communicating, getting y'all shit off, expressing y'all emotions. Like saying all the things you feel like went unsaid. Like that's what this is. So just because you put a beat underneath it and it rhymes don't mean that it's not you and your ex still communicating and having some type of dialogue with each other.

42:11Speaker 3:True.

42:12Speaker 1:But then also on the rapper side of everything, Pat did say that Remy didn't write her rhyme. So now it becomes a rapper thing, too.

42:19Speaker 3:Now I got to reply in that that way. But.

42:23Speaker 1:I mean, I don't like know Pat personally like that, but I don't see him carrying this on like that. I think he said his piece with Jezebel. I don't think he's, he's going to do a back and forth. I can't see it, but I could be wrong. I just don't think Pat, I think he got everything he needed out on that record. Cause even when shit was going crazy with the easy to block captain and Remy on stage with him and who was it? Goods was a goods that had the verse that was about.

42:49Speaker 3:I can't remember.

42:50Speaker 1:I think it was Goods. That had a whole verse about the situation with Papoose, Eazy, and Remy. Pap stayed quiet through that whole entire thing. So if he was on that type of time where it's like, let's drag something out for the purpose of attention, Pap would have done it then.

43:06Speaker 3:Yeah.

43:06Speaker 1:Because he had every right in the world to do it at that point. And I think this record, he said what he had to say, and I can't see him giving this more air.

43:17Speaker 3:I hope not, man.

43:18Speaker 2:I hope this is it. And just, you know, but everybody moves on and is happy in their newfound relationships, newfound love.

43:24Speaker 3:Obviously, they have children together, right? They have more than one.

43:28Speaker 1:Yeah.

43:29Speaker 2:So, you know, obviously, you know, still got to co-parent and be parents to, you know, to the children. So, you know, you want to see things.

43:37Speaker 1:They have one child together. But, I mean, I know they have a blended family.

43:43Speaker 4:Yeah.

43:44Speaker 2:They still family, no matter what. Family fuse, we know that. Family go through it.

43:49Speaker 3:Nobody wins when the family fuse.

43:51Speaker 4:Right.

43:52Speaker 3:There you go.

43:52Speaker 1:I just think Pap has to be quiet because I'm really not trolling here. I really think he has, in this new era of rap, a top 15 diss record. Top 10 diss record of all time. Of this era. This era.

44:05Speaker 3:There's not that many in this era. We just had.

44:08Speaker 1:Take out the.

44:09Speaker 2:We just had 15 songs between Drake and.

44:11Speaker 3:That's why I'm like, I ain't listening to Rory ass, man.

44:14Speaker 1:What do you mean? It's not that many. What's better, Jezebel or the Tupac AI song?

44:22Speaker 3:No, I'm going with Tupac AI song. Oh, my God. I do think y'all are gassing Jezebel a little bit. That's Rory. I think it's funny, though. I think Jezebel is funny, but I also think y'all don't pay attention to Jezebel if it doesn't. He's like, nah, Jezebel was great. I'm like, if Papoose released Jezebel before his breakup with Remy, I would have paid that song, don't mind.

44:40Speaker 1:It wouldn't have existed. Yeah, he needed the inspiration. The context of the song is about the breakup.

44:45Speaker 3:Yeah, he needed that.

44:47Speaker 2:He needed to go through that so he can give us that.

44:48Speaker 3:You know what I think was interesting? Actually, never mind.

44:51Speaker 4:No, go ahead.

44:52Speaker 5:No.

44:52Speaker 3:I remember we had a conversation about how like sometimes I need like women in the room to have certain conversations. Like this isn't the audience or the platform. Like it makes sense. Cause y'all wouldn't understand what I was about to say. Well, all right. What's up? I was about to comment on Remy had a couple of songs, I mean a couple of lines. Um, and she's spoken about like people, um, paint her out to be this horrible person in this villain because Pat was painted as like the greatest husband of all time, holding her down in jail and all of this. And she just kind of regrets, um, the image that she helped build up of, yes, this is the greatest husband of all time and hit his flaws. Um, so now it's biting her, her ass, her paying her husband out to be perfect. When in reality, he was not, these are not bar for bar, but basically her words.

45:37Speaker 3:And I was just thinking if other women in this room, I could have that conversation of sometimes we do do that. Like, we don't tell the bad that the men in our lives do to us. We just pipe them up like they're the greatest because we want that image. And then like.

45:48Speaker 1:That goes both ways, though.

45:49Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm sure it does.

45:51Speaker 2:Yeah, that goes both ways. But I understand what you're saying and to what Remy said.

45:54Speaker 3:Yeah, I get that.

45:55Speaker 2:Like, she made it seem like, you know, her husband was the greatest and no flaws. I mean, all of us have flaws.

46:02Speaker 3:Yeah. So we understand that part.

46:05Speaker 1:But.

46:06Speaker 2:Pap is saying the same in Jezebel. He's kind of alluding to that same sentiment of you wasn't the best wife. You know what I'm saying? You wasn't the best partner. He's alluding to that as well. It goes both ways. You know what I mean? On the side, once you have family, once you have children, you got to be very careful of how far things go because at the end of the day, again, it's still family here. We still have to see each other. We still have to communicate on some level. So you don't want things to go too far.

46:41Speaker 3:You know what I mean?

46:41Speaker 2:You don't want too many things to be said to where you can't unhear the person saying that, expose information that the family didn't know about. You know, it gets very sticky when you start doing that. So hopefully, you know, this is the end of this and, you know, both of them shout out to Pat, shout out to Rim. And hopefully, you know, they just go their separate ways and, you know, continue to To take you to fame.

47:07Speaker 1:Yeah.

47:08Speaker 3:Purse.

47:09Speaker 1:I'm going to put together that modern disc record list for y'all. and properly place Jezebel where it needs to go.

47:16Speaker 2:Oh, you still, you still seething from that?

47:17Speaker 3:Seething?

47:18Speaker 1:No, because I started... Is that still.

47:20Speaker 3:Sitting with you? No, no, no, not yet.

47:21Speaker 1:Is that still sitting? We want to unpack it, Rory. Go ahead, let's unpack it.

47:24Speaker 2:Where does Jezebel stand in the last 10 years?

47:28Speaker 1:It had my mind moving with that list because I think that'd be an interesting list because I could be wrong of where Jezebel is. Like I put... I put that Dream Doll, Tory Lanez diss super high in modern diss records.

47:42Speaker 2:I can't remember that, but I remember when that came out, but I can't remember how that sounds.

47:45Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just trying to think of modern ones.

47:47Speaker 3:They say he had Beijing all in his legs. All in her legs.

47:52Speaker 1:And I'm not saying that this era can't compare to the last or whatever, but I think you'd be surprised how little amount of great diss records have been in this outside of Drake Meek, Drake Kendrick. Like, there hasn't been a lot of great beefs in that capacity.

48:12Speaker 3:Yeah.

48:13Speaker 2:I know what y'all did, guys. Some of that shit we got during the whole Joey Badass, that whole run. It was a lot of records that y'all definitely gassed in the moment.

48:25Speaker 5:Yeah.

48:25Speaker 2:I went back and listened to some of them. I was like, a lot of this shit we did without.

48:29Speaker 1:But that's actually a really good point. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that in the moment. that it's happening.

48:36Speaker 3:Like, this is great.

48:37Speaker 1:We're all focused on this moment.

48:40Speaker 2:Looking back, even like the whole New York city versus upstate New York. Like we got a lot of terrible bars and that, that we're going to go back to in a couple of years.

48:47Speaker 1:But I don't think anyone guessed that one the way they did with the Joey Badass. Um, but I think Joey, uh, the town I think was the, I mean, to me that holds up.

48:57Speaker 2:Is that the one he shot outside the crib?

48:59Speaker 1:I don't think he did a video. The one with, um, with Lux on it.

49:03Speaker 3:Oh, yeah. I don't think we get that.

49:05Speaker 1:That one stands the test of time for sure.

49:09Speaker 3:My Town. My Town.

49:11Speaker 1:But no, of course, in the moment, there's no disrespect to anyone that was rapping. I don't run back to those records like I do with a lot of disc records but in the moment yeah let's let's get like i can't wait to hear what daylight has.

49:22Speaker 2:To say in the moment it had a little more attraction to it but you.

49:27Speaker 1:Could say that about a lot of like mixtape era beefs and like not every disc record was jadakiss checkmate Like, there was a lot of.

49:37Speaker 3:Yeah, no.

49:38Speaker 2:But to what you're saying, a lot of those records in that era of the mixtapes, like, you can still go back to a lot of those. Because it was a different level of rapping.

49:48Speaker 1:Sure. You get what I'm saying? I even think, like, the Miss Jackson shit that Jadakiss and Styles P did holds.

49:53Speaker 3:Up better than most.

49:55Speaker 1:Exactly.

49:55Speaker 3:You see what I'm saying?

49:56Speaker 1:But you hate 300 Bars and Runnin'. And you couldn't tell me and my friends that wasn't the greatest shit. It's not that I hate it.

50:02Speaker 3:It's just too much. It's like, bro, come on.

50:05Speaker 2:You still rapping? My brain can't retain all of that shit. I don't remember what you said the last 112 bars. I cannot remember what you said. I can't quote a single bar.

50:17Speaker 1:But there was even 50 doing Snitch and Stop Lying. There were so many random... Records in there that we hyped up that like now you're like, I mean, I'm not. That's all I'm saying.

50:30Speaker 2:That's all I'm saying. No disrespect to none of these MCs, but it's just like a lot of those. In the moment, that was so much fun. In the moment, absolutely. In the moment, it made sense.

50:37Speaker 3:It just didn't age well and it didn't stand the test of time. That's all. Yeah. I hear y'all.

50:42Speaker 1:All right, Rory, we got some new music tonight.

50:45Speaker 3:Yes.

50:45Speaker 1:If you're listening right now, we have Quavo Chrome Life completely produced by Pharrell. I did see, did you see the clip of him, Justin Timberlake, them on a fucking yacht recording? Snippets sounded good. I'm excited. Again, I wasn't the biggest fan of the first single. It started to grow on me. But I'm excited for a Pharrell, Quavo project. I'm genuinely looking forward to this album.

51:12Speaker 2:Yeah, anytime you can get Pharrell music and then somebody who's obviously had success making records like Quavo, you want to hear what they did.

51:20Speaker 1:Stir Fry is a classic song to me.

51:22Speaker 3:For sure.

51:22Speaker 1:I can't think that it would be bad for them to make music together.

51:26Speaker 3:It makes a lot of sense for them to make music together. Absolutely.

51:29Speaker 1:And while we're here, just quickly, I love that the Colors takeoff in Quabo has become such an iconic thing. I hope that made the streams go up for that record from Unc and Nephew. But can we stop wasting water with A.I.? And we all don't need to be that. There doesn't need to be me and Maul rapping like them and doing the dance. Let's please save some water. The trend can be over.

51:53Speaker 3:And it's also in bad taste because one of them is no longer here.

51:59Speaker 1:I was on the side that if that had the streams go up with that record because of it, great. If they saw more money for it, I'm with it. But I think we've wasted enough water with putting ourselves as them. I don't need to see you and your mans. doing that anymore.

52:15Speaker 2:Well, I'm, I'm just happy that Offset and Quavo are in a better space now.

52:19Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean?

52:21Speaker 2:Like that's, I think that would have been, you know, it's very unfortunate for them to not reconcile and not, you know, even though we kind of felt like they would eventually, but yeah, but it was, it was going through what they went through. You know what I'm saying? It's like, you don't want to see that. So I'm just happy that to know that those two are, you know, on better terms.

52:42Speaker 3:Yeah.

52:43Speaker 1:And I mean, I know, uh, obviously Quavo and Takeoff were already recording their next project before Takeoff's death.

52:54Speaker 3:I know there's a lot of music that.

52:57Speaker 1:If done correctly, Amigos album, I think they have enough stuff where we could get a proper Amigos album that wouldn't feel super weird because Takeoff is not here. So I would like to see that. But first and foremost, obviously them Being on good terms is what matters the most.

53:15Speaker 2:But yeah, Quavo said I eased it a little bit. It threw out all the things that I was upset about or that we had friction about. It was enough for me to say, all right, cool, whatever you're going through, I'll go through it with you. Me losing my brother, it can't get no tougher than that.

53:27Speaker 3:Yeah. In reference to reconciling after takeoff past.

53:33Speaker 4:Yes.

53:33Speaker 3:Yeah. Because when shit like that happens, you look around and be like, what the fuck are we really, like, what the fuck are we really beefing about here?

53:40Speaker 2:Yeah, when you go through something like that, like, you really start to put just life and everything in perspective. Like, what are we beefing about? Why did I not speak to you in a few months?

53:51Speaker 5:Yeah.

53:51Speaker 3:Like, this shit is stupid. You know what I'm saying?

53:53Speaker 2:Like, you start to, I mean, they literally experienced exactly how fragile life is.

53:59Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying?

54:00Speaker 2:So, it's, you know, anything you're going through with somebody you truly love that's your family it's it's it's more times than none it's not worth it it's not worth losing the connection losing the relationship losing the love letting business especially this this this fuck ass business get in between you know family like it's just it's just not worth.

54:20Speaker 3:It he had a really good interview um you guys should go check out with the wonderful young miami carisha who is very good at her job um And he, you know, opened up just about he sounds like he's grown a lot about, you know, that relationship as far as like he has kids now and just like maturing throughout his career. So, yeah, he sounds like sounds like he's in a different place. And that's what's up.

54:45Speaker 1:I saw him in Gina put up a clip, too. Did they do an interview?

54:49Speaker 3:I didn't see that. Probably, though. He probably went on effective immediately.

54:53Speaker 1:Well, Offset is on the song Away. So we will hear them together for the first time in a very long time. look at this how much gallons of water oh they actually recreated it alright see oh that's.

55:08Speaker 3:Dope see thank god that's dope that's cute and they're dropping on the same day Victoria Monet yes Victoria.

55:17Speaker 1:Monet and Quavo are dropping on the same.

55:18Speaker 3:Day Frequency of Love yes oh we're gonna be fed I got like the two good albums the party shit and the you know love shit I'm ready that's what's up Yeah, for sure. Who else is dropping this weekend? FOMO is going to be on streaming.

55:34Speaker 1:We're also getting Mac Miller, The Divine Feminine 10-Year Anniversary. It's been 10 years.

55:38Speaker 3:One of my favorite albums of all time.

55:41Speaker 1:That album is a classic, so they're doing a deluxe. I'm not sure if it's songs from that time, but Balloonism obviously was recorded six years before they put it out, so I'm sure there was a lot of records on the cutting room floor from that era so um i hope it's a good amount um oh i.

56:00Speaker 2:Like that i see what's going on victoria and quavo did a video together they're both dropping yeah i think that's cool quavo did something with young miami and we were she's dropping something.

56:09Speaker 3:She's putting out two records 2008 and fuck you and then she has yeah she just released her albums we'll just announce her albums coming to 23rd so october gonna be.

56:18Speaker 2:I like that i like that cross marketing cross promotion doing content together our albums or songs are dropping the same day i.

56:25Speaker 3:Think that that's dope i think that that's smart and dope um.

56:29Speaker 1:Also did you guys hear the snippets for yo mammy obviously it's out now everyone that's listening but we haven't heard it just just the snippets um fuck you sounds cool she's remaking the yogati and mcmill fuck you record i'm sure that'll work like you can't go wrong with that beat um in 2008 sounds dope.

56:44Speaker 3:Too she feeling like jeezy in 2008.

56:46Speaker 1:Oh yeah i like both those snippets from her Um, also getting a Russ single, uh, Ari Lennox deluxe. There's a lot of good music, a lot of good music coming out. Um, also the Tyler, uh, remix to girls. Um, I forgot the gentleman's name from Compton who does that record that leaked yesterday, but it's going to be on DSPs. Um, and that sounded really good.

57:13Speaker 3:Lil Goat D3.

57:14Speaker 1:Yeah, he has a song called Girls that's fire and Tyler put like a three minute verse on it.

57:19Speaker 3:I love how Tyler is just hopping on anything he fucks with. He's not gatekeeping himself. He's not threatened by anything. He's just hopping on shit that he likes.

57:29Speaker 1:Not everything has to be a super moment. If he likes a song, he'll get on the record.

57:33Speaker 3:I think that that's fire because there aren't a lot of people of his caliber and his fame doing that.

57:37Speaker 1:That's Tyler's, one of his superpowers. He's very accessible.

57:42Speaker 2:He's never tried to alienate himself that i could remember too much you see tyler in the most random of places yeah hanging out chilling like he's always been that person so you know that this is this is who he is.

57:55Speaker 3:He's he's done.

57:58Speaker 1:An extremely good job i think like maybe only the weekend has done it better in this era of being accessible and still being seen but no one really knowing too much about you we still argue to this day is he is he gay or straight we don't even know that But you'll see Tyler outside, but you know nothing about his personal life. That's an art to be able to get that off at the level of success.

58:21Speaker 3:And fame that he has.

58:23Speaker 1:Not that I care, but is he gay? I think based off being a Tyler fan and everything he's rapped about, I can come to the conclusion that he is bisexual because I've heard him rap about fucking men and women.

58:35Speaker 2:What was that bar he got off on Flex and Flex was like? I don't know why you would choose that.

58:41Speaker 1:Why would you?

58:43Speaker 2:Like both next and rough sex with a rough neck me and flex in the index looking yeah flex was like why would you why would you go with that line that's the reaction i was like why would you and then why would you make me a part of that like i don't know that's not what i'm looking for.

59:05Speaker 3:For buff neck niggas just let me see for some hot butt sex yeah buff neck niggas just for some hot butt sex yeah me and Flex see that's what Flex was like me and Flex looking in the index for buff neck niggas just for some hot butt sex yeah Flex was like I don't can we get the video on that please I'm not.

59:20Speaker 2:That's not what I'm doing I've never done that Tyler I've never looked in the index for rough necks for hot butt sex I've never that's.

59:27Speaker 3:Fucking hilarious it's funny as shit though Classic. This is a classic. Flex was so confused. That's funny. You got to find just the Twitter one. Yeah, you have to find it, not the whole. I mean, it's in the beginning. Yeah, whatever.

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1:00:40Speaker 3:We do. You've got mail. Yo, what's up squad, man?

1:00:47Speaker 5:This is, I'm going to leave my name off of it for obvious reasons. So I'm 35, right? And my girl 25. So I'm figuring like, I'm liking how this is going. You know, the 10-year age gap is actually cool. I actually fuck with it. You know, I'm kind of done dating women in their 30s. Like, you know, you got to deal with the pain of other guys and all this other kind of shit. You know, you get a girl and, you know, they mid-20s.

1:01:16Speaker 1:How y'all do, baby D? That's what I like to feel.

1:01:20Speaker 5:I could be wrong.

1:01:21Speaker 1:Don't kill me demers hear.

1:01:22Speaker 3:Me out right he knew it was coming look he knew i think i might be fucked up because i'm kind.

1:01:27Speaker 1:Of used to a little debauchery and.

1:01:29Speaker 3:You know everything's working out we've been together for like.

1:01:32Speaker 5:A year we probably had like one argument yo and this is what's letting me know that i might be the one that's fucked up because you know everything is cool but i'm just fucking.

1:01:44Speaker 3:Bored Like, is it me? Should I just be, you know, live my life with peace? I don't know. It's probably I'm just not used to peace. But, like, what do y'all think? I could be fucked up. Let me know if I'm fucked up. Wait, what was the issue, though? Y'all got this.

1:02:02Speaker 1:They had the argument, right?

1:02:03Speaker 3:He's bored.

1:02:05Speaker 1:He's bored in his relationship? I mean.

1:02:12Speaker 2:Okay, it's a 10-year age gap. How are you bored with a 25-year-old woman?

1:02:16Speaker 1:I thought he was about to say, like, I can't keep up.

1:02:18Speaker 2:Yeah, like, I've never heard I'm bored with a 25-year-old woman.

1:02:21Speaker 1:It sounds like he's, I wouldn't say addicted to chaos like he was trying to allude to. I think he's comfortable in chaos.

1:02:27Speaker 3:Yeah.

1:02:27Speaker 1:And he's confused on why this is healthy.

1:02:29Speaker 3:Right.

1:02:31Speaker 1:And he finds boredom in chaos.

1:02:33Speaker 3:He likes chaos. A healthy relationship. Oh, he's toxic. Yeah. No, that's that's really what he's toxic.

1:02:39Speaker 1:Or he's used to being in a relationship that brings the toxicity out of him.

1:02:42Speaker 3:And that's just the environment we now live in.

1:02:44Speaker 2:Well, I respect him because he did say maybe he's the one that's fucked up. So, you know, I got to respect that because he's not he's not taking himself out of it. He's not ruling himself out of being the problem. So, OK, maybe that's exactly what it is.

1:02:57Speaker 5:But.

1:02:58Speaker 3:I just don't.

1:02:59Speaker 1:A 25-year-old woman, I just. Well, I mean, how much can a 25-year-old complain about? You give them food and water. It's like, there's really not.

1:03:05Speaker 3:It's just like food, water.

1:03:06Speaker 1:Put a roof over their head. And a charger for their phone.

1:03:08Speaker 2:Like, what more does a 25-year-old need? Take them to Sephora, get a new lip gloss here and there.

1:03:15Speaker 3:I'm like, what do you like? What's the problem? I just don't understand. That's the most. A 25-year-old woman.

1:03:20Speaker 1:She's just excited she can rent a car now.

1:03:22Speaker 5:Yeah.

1:03:22Speaker 1:Like, bro, you don't.

1:03:24Speaker 2:I can see why he don't want to deal with no 30-year-old women. they running that nigga through the ringer.

1:03:29Speaker 3:The clock is on. Yeah.

1:03:31Speaker 1:Like 35.

1:03:32Speaker 3:I don't have time to waste.

1:03:34Speaker 1:Yeah, I get it.

1:03:35Speaker 2:But yeah, I don't, I don't know what advice he's looking for, but you know.

1:03:40Speaker 1:I mean, there is no advice in it. It's just, you need to realize that you enjoy toxic shit and that's something you need to work out internally. Like it's okay to have a healthy, calm relationship. The fact that you find that boring means you need to find like, fun activities within your healthy relationship. That's a good problem. What say you, Baby D?

1:04:01Speaker 3:You guys covered it just so well. You know, he was calling for y'all. He don't want to hear what I have to say. He said, don't kill me, Baby D. He said, don't kill me.

1:04:11Speaker 2:He said, you know, he knew you was already going to be on some, you know, like This nigga, you know, they know you.

1:04:17Speaker 1:The guys they calling, they know you.

1:04:19Speaker 2:They know when they about to say something that's going to trigger you and trigger a certain reaction out of you.

1:04:23Speaker 3:They know. I'm just chilling. He said it's easier to date 25-year-olds. Let him date 25-year-olds. Yeah, I mean, listen. I'm sure the women his age don't want him anywhere. Don't do that. What? You don't know that. Don't do that. If a man sits up here and says, I don't like dating women in their 30s because I have to deal with the damage from other guys and they just require too much and 25-year-olds are just easier. It's like when people say they don't like dating black women, they prefer white women. You know what? Go for who you want.

1:04:52Speaker 3:Some of the people that deserve you. I agree.

1:04:55Speaker 1:Go for who you want. He'd prefer to be the damage in a woman's life than to have to fix the damage in their lives. He wants to inflict that for the next 30 year old.

1:05:04Speaker 3:The crazy thing is what people claim is damage and baggage is just standards that come from experience that people don't want to deal with. Yeah.

1:05:12Speaker 1:Boundaries.

1:05:12Speaker 3:Boundaries and standards. I agree. Because 24, 23, 25 year olds don't really have them yet. They're on their way, but they don't really have them yet. A 25 year old woman's standards is not a 35 year old woman's standard.

1:05:26Speaker 1:No, not at all.

1:05:27Speaker 3:It's different standards. Yeah. It's not the same.

1:05:30Speaker 2:So if you think that this 20-year-old, you're bored with her.

1:05:33Speaker 3:Like him saying, like, am I the problem? Like, do I have the issue? Like a 35-year-old woman going to be like, yes, you have a fucking issue. You might want to figure that out. And they're going to require you to figure it out. A 25-year-old, not so much.

1:05:43Speaker 2:If you're bored with a 25-year-old woman, you ain't going to be bored with a 35-year-old woman. You ain't got time to be bored. It's shit around the house that need to be fixed. Stop telling me that banister is wobbly, nigga. Like, screw it.

1:05:56Speaker 3:Tighten it.

1:05:57Speaker 7:You got youtube tutorials figure it out nigga stop telling me that this the bathroom needs paint paint it nigga yeah that's so you can't be bored with it she's been through.

1:06:08Speaker 1:Five apartments already it's mad 25 year old just left her mom's.

1:06:11Speaker 3:House it's a lot of shit autumn dreams and shit they're like yeah you know i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do that shit i want to do 35 year old looking at you like when you're gonna start moving shit it's the accountability that comes with when you're same thing when you're talking to older people like older people are gonna hold.

1:06:30Speaker 1:Case by case basis, of course. But sometimes I think it can be easier to date the 35 year old woman with boundaries because she'll be very clear on what it is. And if you meet it, sky's the limit and she's a joy to be around. Of course, there's some women that have impossible boundaries and that can get annoying. But usually a sane 35 year old woman will have boundaries that, yes, a 25 year old will not have if you're just looking for some easy shit.

1:06:55Speaker 3:But if you just meet a short checklist, that 35-year-old will do anything for you. Yeah.

1:07:01Speaker 2:I thought Baby D was going to say, I would like to know at what age was he introduced to porn?

1:07:08Speaker 3:No, it's just, I just, you know, I just see. The 25-year-old wife. I just see things. And what is his relationship like with his grandmother? I just see shit.

1:07:18Speaker 1:With his great aunt once removed.

1:07:19Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:07:20Speaker 1:What is his relationship like with his sister?

1:07:22Speaker 3:Because everything stems from, and this is what happens when you get into your thirties and realize that everything stems from somewhere. And if it's, if this is coming up in this area of our life, it's going to this, that same issue in a different font is going to come up in a different area of our life, which he just explained. Oh, I don't feel like, like all of his shit goes together. Yeah. You got the 25-year-old and now I'm bored. You have a problem. Like, the problem is not the 30-something-year-old woman. You have a problem.

1:07:51Speaker 1:But to his credit, he said that he may think that it's probably.

1:07:54Speaker 3:Self-awareness is key, but if you don't use it to become better, then... That's why we can't give.

1:07:58Speaker 2:Him too much shit, because he kind of was like, maybe I'm the problem.

1:08:02Speaker 3:A lot of drama?

1:08:04Speaker 1:I'm just like, how can you not have fun with a 25... They've never seen anything before. You're showing them restaurants for the first time. They've never even seen that. Take it to Brooklyn Chop House. They've seen Miami, and that's as far as it goes.

1:08:17Speaker 2:25-year-olds love Miami, boy. Miami to 25-year-olds like Mykonos. You ever see the first time a girl.

1:08:25Speaker 1:Go to Miami? Well, I don't know about this era. When I was 25, yes. Yeah, this era of 25-year-olds.

1:08:32Speaker 3:This era, I don't know.

1:08:32Speaker 1:At 18, they was over there.

1:08:33Speaker 2:Yeah, they fucking these niggas. They on private jets with these streamers.

1:08:37Speaker 3:Mm-hmm. It's rough, man. Speaking of streaming. Yeah, the new 25 year old. Hey, hey, hey, hey. We're talking about streaming.

1:08:47Speaker 1:Tune in next week.

1:08:48Speaker 3:Do we have another voicemail? Please, Lord.

1:08:50Speaker 1:What up, Pod?

1:08:54Speaker 4:This your boy, Fourth Quarter. I be in the live with Johnson Toms. Been a day one, you know, pod listener. So shout out to the crew, Rory, Maul, Peej, and of course, you know, the incomparable Baby D.

1:09:05Speaker 1:Incomparable.

1:09:06Speaker 4:So here's my question. I'm around like Maul's age, probably like a couple years younger. So I do have a long-term relationship, like about a year and a half ago. On my birthday, I go see my sister and my brother-in-law, I guess, tries to call himself playing matchmaker or something. And he asked me, what's the youngest girl I would date? So I said, the conventional wisdom I heard was half your age plus seven.

1:09:32Speaker 3:So I said, that would put her at about 28. And the look of horror.

1:09:37Speaker 4:Came across my sister's face was like, oh, that's over a decade and She's not going to know anything about the 90s. And I'm like, I don't care about none of that. So my question to y'all is, number one, am I crazy for that?

1:09:50Speaker 3:I don't think I am.

1:09:52Speaker 4:Number two, what are y'all dating rules as far as age-wise goes? And number three, have you had any positive or negative experiences either way?

1:10:03Speaker 1:I think Rory must be like, what, maybe 36 or something?

1:10:06Speaker 3:Nailed it.

1:10:07Speaker 1:Yeah, like I said, I'm around.

1:10:09Speaker 4:around maul's age but i just want to know what y'all.

1:10:12Speaker 1:Think so let me know well he's dead he's 39 because he's said 28 and then his sister said that's over a decade so it's got to be 39 years 39 year old to 28 not.

1:10:22Speaker 3:That she i think he's like 41 yeah he's like 41 i think he's like 42 oh i thought you were 42 so that's why i landed on that he's 45 we made fun of him for it You all right? Yo. Not the Kevin Hart game.

1:10:36Speaker 2:You got some things you want to talk about? I'm going to turn these cameras off and start shaking.

1:10:47Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I think, I don't know, 40 something with 28 year old.

1:10:54Speaker 3:It depends on 28 year old.

1:10:56Speaker 1:It depends on which 28 year old.

1:10:58Speaker 5:Yeah.

1:10:58Speaker 2:It depends on the type of 28 year old you're talking about. Because you can meet a very mature, very, you know, some 28 year old women are not still into the same things that they probably should be into, which is hanging out, going out every night, you know, doing those things that you probably wouldn't want your lady doing if you're a 42 year old man.

1:11:16Speaker 1:But I mean, I.

1:11:19Speaker 3:Just don't know.

1:11:19Speaker 2:I just don't know if dating a 28 year old when you're in your 40s is in this era of 28 years is.

1:11:25Speaker 3:Seriously dating let's make that clear because if having fun with a 28 year old 28.

1:11:29Speaker 2:Year olds are fun but yeah you could knock them but yeah you can knock them down but you know as far as like really trying to lock in and build something i don't uh i don't know i just think there's plenty of women in their 30s that are i agree great candidates that.

1:11:43Speaker 1:You know are great women um and i just think we're in a different era where there's more people single without kids in their thirties than there ever was before. I think people go out and do nightlife things way later than the generation before them. Like, so, I mean, I don't, there's anything wrong being 42 and being out in the same place as a 28 year old. I think it just depends the 28 year old that you're talking to if you want to have a relationship.

1:12:09Speaker 5:Yeah.

1:12:09Speaker 1:So, I mean, to his question though, what, what, what are y'all, do's and don'ts with the age thing. Half, half plus seven. I've never heard that before, but that's an interesting.

1:12:20Speaker 3:I've definitely heard that.

1:12:21Speaker 1:Yeah.

1:12:21Speaker 3:I've heard that before too. I don't know who came up with that. Let me be clear. I never know.

1:12:25Speaker 2:I don't know where that originated. I don't know who did the math on that. I've never looked into that, but I've definitely heard half your age plus seven.

1:12:34Speaker 1:I definitely heard that.

1:12:35Speaker 2:Um, and then he asked, have we had any good or bad experiences with dating young women? Um, To Damaris's point, I never seriously dated a woman that was that much younger than me. I've had fun and had some amazing times, but seriously dated?

1:12:56Speaker 3:No.

1:12:57Speaker 2:Nothing younger than 30 have I ever seriously dated.

1:13:01Speaker 1:For 99% of my dating life, either dated my same age, year older, year younger. My child's mother is the youngest I've dated, and we have a five-year difference. That's the youngest I've ever dated. I never really did like the younger. There was always so many.

1:13:21Speaker 3:Women my age that were around me that.

1:13:23Speaker 1:Not to seriously date. Yeah, not seriously.

1:13:25Speaker 3:No, not at all.

1:13:26Speaker 1:And even like casually date. Yeah, it was usually around my age, two years younger, two years older, one year younger, one year older. But I don't know. I'm not that on like some judgy shit. I don't think there's anything wrong if you want to be 42 and date a 28 year old if you guys are compatible.

1:13:43Speaker 3:No, there's nothing wrong with that.

1:13:46Speaker 2:I mean, we've seen some of our favorite celebrities do it and they're living happily ever after. So it can work. It just depends on the type of, you know, person we're talking about.

1:13:56Speaker 1:But I get his sister's point.

1:13:58Speaker 3:She knows nothing about the night. Like, what are y'all going to talk about?

1:14:00Speaker 1:I think that's a fair question to ask people that do date super younger, but if you could find somebody that it works, I just don't think there's a high percentage rate that you guys are going to have a lot to talk about.

1:14:12Speaker 2:Again, depending on the type of person we're talking about, what is this person into? What is their lifestyle? What are they, you know, what do they do? Like, what are they, you know, what are they into?

1:14:22Speaker 3:What are their morals?

1:14:23Speaker 2:What are their, beliefs what are their what is their family structure like growing up like how they how were they raised all right let's uh because 28 is not super young but it's like you know you can meet a 28 year woman that's like that really got her shit together like damn like she really like really got her.

1:14:40Speaker 3:Shit together so you so that's the thing so i think and i think that's what people get caught up in is and i'm not against age gaps and dating i've dated somebody 10 years older than me before but i feel like Yes, you can have your shit together, but there's some things that only life experience and time can teach you. Exactly. But about especially like knowing who you are as a woman, that only time can teach you that. So you can be as mature as you want to be. But there are some things like you just need time to experience. You need a certain amount of years in a relationship or out of a relationship.

1:15:13Speaker 3:Like it's just it's so much that comes with it. I just don't I the 28 year old women that I have come into contact with. were learning themselves they were almost there but they didn't really you don't really know things.

1:15:25Speaker 1:A father can't teach let's uh let's uh let's make it real for funsies what would be the age cutoff where if i brought a girl in here you guys would judge me you're 36 right now i'm 36 years old anybody in their 20s damn 29 y'all y'all talk behind my back when we left like damn I'm.

1:15:52Speaker 2:Not gonna talk about you behind your back if Rory walked in here with Tyler right now you think I'm gonna be like yo.

1:15:55Speaker 3:You tripping yes ew Tyler's like 24 and you.

1:15:59Speaker 2:Think I'm gonna look at Rory like he tripping no I am she's yeah she's exactly 24 that was you know what's so funny but that's in celebrity years so she's like 34.

1:16:08Speaker 3:When Tyler first came out the first thing I texted Rory was that girl bad but I can't look at her for too long because she's too young We both said the same thing. I said, she's too young. I can't, I don't even feel right looking at her.

1:16:18Speaker 1:I feel sick.

1:16:18Speaker 3:But now she's 24. How old is Koi Luray? Koi Luray is my age. I think Koi's like 30. She just playfully plays into that porn. I look like a child thing. She's 29.

1:16:31Speaker 1:I thought she was, I thought she was older than that. What?

1:16:32Speaker 3:Are you a Koi boy? Definitely a Koi boy for sure.

1:16:39Speaker 2:Oh, that's what they call it. The people that like it, that's what they call it? Call them koi boys? That's too close to soy boys, you know? He's about to get the koi fish tattoo for her. That shit a girl.

1:16:49Speaker 1:If I walk in there with Koi LeRae, I'm tripping?

1:16:51Speaker 3:I wouldn't judge you. Baby D judging. I see her eyes. You got judging eyes.

1:16:59Speaker 1:Maul looks youthful, though. He does look younger than what he is.

1:17:03Speaker 3:And whenever I say that. That's crazy. So fucked up.

1:17:10Speaker 1:Yeah, but he don't look like a 45 year old.

1:17:13Speaker 3:I'd be like, that's a little weird.

1:17:16Speaker 1:I wouldn't care if they judge me. I walk in here with Coiler.

1:17:18Speaker 3:He wouldn't care. I mean, if you want to date somebody 16 years younger than you and that's the type of relationship that you want. Yeah. OK.

1:17:30Speaker 1:How would you deal with Benzino being your father?

1:17:32Speaker 3:I don't fuck with son.

1:17:36Speaker 1:She don't fuck with him.

1:17:37Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, it's true. Oh, y'all can bond over that? Yeah, we can bond. She come to get Thanksgiving.

1:17:41Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.

1:17:42Speaker 2:Like, come on, you come to my house for Thanksgiving with no trip.

1:17:44Speaker 3:I think I'm done dating people younger than me. My most serious relationship was with somebody that was younger than me, but I think I'm done with that.

1:17:50Speaker 1:But you haven't done that that often?

1:17:53Speaker 3:No, I haven't done it often. But, you know, that was my most serious relationship. And it was only like two, three years younger, but. No matter how mature they are, it can tell. I feel like it's more obvious with men, though, because men take a little bit longer to grow than women.

1:18:05Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. If I come in here with 29-year-old Kory, she really like 35 mentally.

1:18:13Speaker 3:No, it's just you really like 39 mentally. It ain't that she's really like 20. No, I'm not. She's not older mentally. You're younger mentally. I'm younger mentally? That's why I said men grow a little bit slower than women. So you would be younger mentally. You see, you not comprehending what I'm saying is, yeah, you a little slow.

1:18:33Speaker 1:You said what, Peach?

1:18:35Speaker 3:Peach said you're a grower, not a shower. With age, it's crazy. You don't show your passport. You really are a grower, not a shower.

1:18:43Speaker 1:How do you know that?

1:18:44Speaker 3:I'm talking about what's your age? You don't look your age. I thought you were talking about something else. Yo, what's dope? Come on. on, bro.

1:18:50Speaker 1:That's why I was like, how do you know that?

1:18:51Speaker 3:What info do you have?

1:18:53Speaker 1:I went to... No, he's a shower, not a grower because he doesn't look as.

1:18:57Speaker 3:He shows younger. He's not growing.

1:19:00Speaker 1:No.

1:19:01Speaker 3:What were you saying? I think it's reversed in that way.

1:19:04Speaker 4:No.

1:19:05Speaker 3:I was somewhere the other day and they ID'd me to get in. Mm-hmm.

1:19:09Speaker 2:The dude at the door was like, no way. He's like, no way. That's your older brother's life? He's like, no way.

1:19:16Speaker 3:Where you was at?

1:19:18Speaker 2:Some restaurant in the city. But it's like a bar.

1:19:21Speaker 3:So you got to ID everybody. He was like, no way. I was like, yes way.

1:19:27Speaker 1:I move out of my way.

1:19:32Speaker 3:All right.

1:19:33Speaker 1:Well, this was fun.

1:19:33Speaker 2:This was fun.

1:19:34Speaker 3:As long as it's consensual, just, you know.

1:19:37Speaker 1:Have consensual fun.

1:19:39Speaker 3:Yeah. Date who you want to date.

1:19:41Speaker 1:But some people may look at you weird if you're 40. As long as it's half your age plus seven. That's the law. That's the law.

1:19:47Speaker 3:Wait, what's half my age plus seven? How old am I? You're 31, right? That's a great question for me, too.

1:19:53Speaker 4:24.

1:19:53Speaker 3:I think 24. Because the little nigga from a different world is adorable. He 26.

1:19:59Speaker 1:Yeah. Oh, you can hit that.

1:20:02Speaker 2:You can hit that, baby D.

1:20:03Speaker 3:Oh, don't say hit that. That's... What? In case I wanted to get to know the young gentleman. I was just saying.

1:20:08Speaker 2:Y'all never want to get to know these niggas. Y'all have been posting clips of this nigga for the last nine days. Nobody asked how his mental health is.

1:20:17Speaker 3:I'm wondering how his mental health is. No, you're not. I am.

1:20:20Speaker 1:No, you're not.

1:20:21Speaker 3:But even then, I was sitting up there like when I was looking and saying, oh my God, that's such a beautiful little boy. I'm like, in my head, I'm like, he's 26. I feel creepy.

1:20:29Speaker 1:Beautiful little boy. You're only four years older than him.

1:20:31Speaker 3:But I feel creepy. I'm six years older than him. You 32?

1:20:35Speaker 1:Yeah.

1:20:35Speaker 3:Oh, I didn't know that.

1:20:36Speaker 2:I thought maybe he was like 30, 31 still.

1:20:39Speaker 3:I know. It's not really showing in my face, you know?

1:20:43Speaker 7:Oh, nah.

1:20:44Speaker 1:Tyler was born after 9-11. No way. that's 100 yeah fuck the the arithmetic uh pem dos carrying the one if you're born after 9 11 stay far the fuck away.

1:20:57Speaker 2:From me no but that's you can teach her about so she'd.

1:20:59Speaker 3:Never forget she can't remember something she wasn't there for it.

1:21:07Speaker 2:No i say show her so she'll never forget you gotta show her the document 9-11 is 9-11 is a show or not a grower it's a new great document having.

1:21:15Speaker 3:To explain Fahrenheit 9-11 to somebody like cause I gotta explain what happened the conspiracy theories if.

1:21:20Speaker 1:I'm from America I have to explain Fahrenheit to her as well oh yeah that was a good one good job you made a joke.

1:21:27Speaker 3:That was good alright let's get into Patreon oh shit I forgot we got Patreon right yeah I forgot it was Thursday my bad but with that math it's 25 for me sometimes yo 25 for me.

1:21:41Speaker 1:I just did the math.

1:21:42Speaker 3:You could do that.

1:21:43Speaker 1:It checks out. You could do that. You could do Tyler.

1:21:46Speaker 3:Hey, yo. No, you could date Tyler is what I'm saying, not do it. Yeah, I understand.

1:21:51Speaker 1:I don't think she wants to date me.

1:21:53Speaker 3:No, no, no.

1:21:53Speaker 2:I'm just saying if you walked in the studio with Tyler, I wouldn't like text Damaris on the side and be like, yo, he tripping.

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