Episode 534 | Maliibu Miitch

0:00Speaker 1:No Wallian, Ma Nollian, I need to see the video for that.

0:41Speaker 2:It's like fight night. So me and my best friend, okay, yeah, me and my best friend were like rolling around and like a little pool of water, slam in each other and we really actually genuinely were fighting in the music video. So it was really fire.

0:53Speaker 1:Wait, which mean y'a had beef?

0:54Speaker 2:Like yeah, I was like chat best friend, but that's my best friend for like twenty years. So we were literally slamming each other and in the water, and there's like a blowupool and a little floaty, a big floaty.

1:05Speaker 1:I asked what I was wearing when I was vading suits? Yeah, there is watermell naturally.

1:10Speaker 2:Vading suits and little little shorts.

1:13Speaker 1:Yes, let's get that video the number one on the countdown, remember that the countdown.

1:20Speaker 2:I miscountouts.

1:22Speaker 1:I know they need to bring back something. We need that we need video count yeah, something just I don't even see videos no more, like unless you know, like if you listen to a song on iTunes, obviously they have the videos there, but somebody would have to say, yo, did you see.

1:36Speaker 2:The music video?

1:37Speaker 1:Like I didn't even know it was out. I watch it, but before you know you that's how you found music, That's how you found it.

1:43Speaker 2:Was dope and it's messed up because as an artist, I still don't look at music videos. So it's kind of crazy, but I want people to watch mine stone right.

1:50Speaker 1:Yeah, as an artist, that's interesting. As an artist who don't watch videos, is that purpose?

1:55Speaker 2:What it is is the videos and the music. I don't listen to a lot of new music because I don't kind of want to try it's.

2:03Speaker 1:You say it, listen to it, got the data approve that struggle a little.

2:09Speaker 2:Some things out that I hear it, like if it's a viral sound or something like that when I'm on Instagram. But I'm just speaking of like I don't go and listen to other artists beause I don't want my stuff to sound like them. Sometimes you could like being an artist, like you hear something and be like, oh I want to create, or like yeah, I don't want to do that, like.

2:25Speaker 3:You know, so yeah, have you ever felt like someone did that with your music?

2:29Speaker 2:Oh? Yeah, I felt like that.

2:30Speaker 1:Have you been vocal about it or no?

2:32Speaker 2:I don't care that much. I don't really care that much to be vocal about it because I know, like, I know people do that, and I know a lot of people have writers and stuff like that too, so it's like they get added help from writers. So of course they're going to get help from like looking up other artists, like and listening to other artists. So it's kind of like like when I was younger, I used to get mad at stuff like that, but now I just don't really care anymore.

2:56Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm still kind of on the side of like, that's not a form of flattering to me. No, definitely, I mean I get the term, of course, but nah.

3:07Speaker 2:No, that's really definitely. But I feel like, because I think Rihanna has said it in like an interview or something like when somebody copies you, Like, when you're a trend setter, you're supposed to set trends, So you can't be mad at people for like following your trend when you're like setting it, you know, and that's the whole point. You want kind of people to want to be like you in some sort of way and stuff. So that's how I don't get too mad about it. But when I was younger, I probably would have like, you know, like crashed out a few times on Instagram. But luckily like I didn't think.

3:36Speaker 1:Yeah, God, well we are backsponsored by Boost Mobile unlimited talk, text and data. And if you haven't noticed, im Mallory. And today we are joined by this is family. This is a friend of the show, somebody who were very happy to have here. Finally her album is coming, finally because we've been championing this young lady for years, had the chance to hear music early, early on, been a fan the first time I heard it, Still a fan today pre Covid. I've been in the studio pre Covid. Yeah, this is pre Covid, pre the world changing. Yes, today we are joined by the Bronx is very own mallible mitches in the building. I got to put the Big Bronx on that, you know, the Big Bronx, Big Bronx man.

4:23Speaker 1:So the album is is wrapping up, Yes, some tweaks.

4:27Speaker 2:Handed, but getting it mixed out right now.

4:29Speaker 1:Yes, listen, I've been waiting for this because I want, I need music listening to you from the Bronx. So I feel like I could judge you. I feel like I could talk ship and love you know, but I am. I am happy to hear a full body of work from those though, because I've heard obviously singles, songs, uh, some songs you was working on. But to have now a full body, I'm happy to finally have it.

4:51Speaker 2:Thank you me too, like honestly, like I want I want people to hear me already, like you know, because like I've been dropping singles even when I was back in the contract they were like, let me drop like one of two little joints. But it's still like I have been dying to just put out a body of work so I could tour and stuff, of course, but so people could stop with the oh, she's not consistent, and it hasn't been really much of that, you know.

5:13Speaker 1:So yeah, I'm excited, how much as the industry on the business side jaded.

5:19Speaker 2:You a lot of times, and I just feel like sometimes when you're focused on like just being an artist, just putting out just I was a studio rat for a long time that I never really focused on the business, and that part kind of like always had me messed up. And then it was even people that I had would have on my team, they will be like, you're too much in the business. You need to just focus on the artistry. I heard that too many times in my earlier career that sometimes it made me feel like all right, damn, like let me, let me just focus on this so far.

5:51Speaker 2:When I was younger, i did. But now after being locked in so many different contracts and stuff, I'm kind of just like over it. And now I'm too much on my business being with Monarch, my new label. They're fine with that, you know, They're fine with me like learning and asking questions. I'm always asking a question, you know. So it's really really cool. But yeah, jaded me a lot.

6:10Speaker 1:Yeah.

6:11Speaker 3:I think when you came on the show at the BT Awards, you were just getting out of a situation.

6:16Speaker 2:I think that it was like I was, I didn't sign yet, but they were. It was already in talks and everything like that too.

6:22Speaker 3:Okay, So what's the sense of freedom with that? Are you on your own timeline now?

6:27Speaker 2:Yes? Yes, And it's good because again, like I like to be involved, I like to be too involved. So it's good. I'm in my budget. I'm the one clearing stuff from my budget, so it's really really good. I got to get a little better with budget budget management. Yes, women, yes, yes, I need I need this. You just wan I need firecrackers shooting up to the like. But yeah, it's really really good. I'm really really happy around this time.

6:59Speaker 3:What do you think the dumbest thing you spent your recording budget on?

7:04Speaker 2:Dumbest, dumbest, dumbest.

7:05Speaker 3:Because I don't think fire crackers are dumb. I think that none of the helps the experience.

7:09Speaker 2:Let me see what like with this, with this, it's just in general in general. Okay, this was not my fault, right, But I didn't realize until after somebody paid someone twenty grand for a music video one time, and I thought that was ridiculous. I thought that was insane, like ridiculous when I could have called like a homie that knew a homie to bring cars and other things. So like I like to be like some I'll bring in a lot of stuff myself so I don't have use your resources. Yes, I use my resources. Yes, But that time I really wish if I would have known that, because that was just like insane to me. And it was like two music videos. It was like twenty grand, and I thought that was insane.

7:47Speaker 1:Yeah, I could see that. I could see you looking back and being like especially once the video is done, like yeah, I don't think that.

7:52Speaker 2:Was worth Yeah, because nowadays people are just walking around with the camera, film and the stuff in the boom. Now they got millionions of views on just a video that they just was walking around Time Square or something. So I just think that certain things is just kind of like ridiculous, you know.

8:04Speaker 3:So yeah, I mean I think the water Fight will probably do more numbers than that video. That video, I know what a Lamborghini looks like. I've never seen you wrestle your friend. I just feel like.

8:17Speaker 1:Thee a little bit.

8:19Speaker 2:Yeah, that video is so fun, so fun.

8:21Speaker 3:Yes, what else did you want to get across in this album? Because you haven't really had the moment to put out what.

8:28Speaker 1:Would be on this album is malleable talking about.

8:33Speaker 2:So I did a it's a bunch of different vibes that I have on there, but I was venting on a couple. I got an intro and an outro that I was just kind of like venting about what happened because I've never really like talked about me being in a contract, so a lot of people don't know that. So when the intro and outro, that's basically what like I talked about because I wanted people to know from jump. When you the first song that you hear, which is an intro, it's like it explains all of that. And then throughout the rest, I have some New York vibes on there, and then I have some like little songs, are you Ratchelina? Ratchelina? Songs that you outside you like Raculina. Yes, it's kind of like class see but still ratchet I love.

9:14Speaker 1:Sometimes I go back to ford them just looking for you.

9:16Speaker 2:You gotta go get you.

9:17Speaker 1:Yeah, I need a ratlin coming up? What was your last Ratchelina. It's been a while. It's such a liar, a Rattelina. Haven't had a Rattelina no long?

9:28Speaker 2:I been sure you having a few, just like now said.

9:31Speaker 1:No, I can't not no more, man, I can't. I can't do that. No more like ten years ago maybe, but now no, I can't do the racculina. It's like I can hang out with the ratulina, but then you're gonna look up and I'm not gonna be there. I'm gonna be home in the shower in bed, like yeah, I got to dip in and dip out. I can't do too much with the ratuline.

9:48Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel like you've had one post COVID.

9:51Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, well the ractelinas during COVID. Those are the front line workers that they were not on my side.

10:01Speaker 3:I've seen the nurses without their scrap. Yes, absolutely putting your IV here on them right now and you have no idea what her life.

10:08Speaker 1:The girls wanted to do my brows during the coach they started doing browse they started doing last year.

10:14Speaker 2:But I have a few home girls I started doing last year.

10:17Speaker 1:Yeah, pull up, come to the crib. I'm like to the crib. No, not to do my little threat thing. No, not the crib. We can wait till COVID is over.

10:28Speaker 3:In the intro, how personally you're really getting with the situation. You're actually calling out certain.

10:32Speaker 2:People, say names and stuff like that. I just basically say how they have me messed up?

10:38Speaker 1:Your energy is different, you think so, Yes, it's calmer, Yeah, like this ain't the mitch like this is I love it though, no, no, don't. But I sensed the maturity. I sensed the growth. I sense the uh, calmness, peace with everything that happened, and just ready to work and move forward and receive everything.

11:00Speaker 2:Definitely, like you know when you get older, you start realizing a lot, Like I feel like for a long time, I was placing the blame on everybody else except for myself. Because if I went through being locked in a contract with rough Riders, if I did that with so many other people, it's like like even with the production company, like I should have stopped myself. I should have just known better, Like you get what I'm saying. I should have never used a lawyer that they gave me diabolical when you think like that, like you didn't know.

11:25Speaker 3:Yeah, now if you did that, I look at you, like you crazy, But you didn't know at the time.

11:29Speaker 2:Yeah, but I could have, Like when people were saying, like ask questions, and some people I would get, some people ask questions, some people don't ask the questions, but like I should have been asking a lot of those questions, and I was putting a lot of the blame on everyone else, like you know, like that of myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think once I realized all of that, once I started even like because I felt like around the time when I jopped, like then out of New York, everybody came with the deep voices and everybody started like remixing young Berg. I swear like he was like probably like one of the best things that happened to my career because like he understood like the music aspect of me and what I wanted to like give off and what I wanted to sound like. But at the same time, it was around that time where he was like, you know what, all right, I'm gonna give these vibes to everybody, like you know, so it kind of like I was not mad about it, but it kind of bothered me because like I had my sound going with our project that we never were able to release, and now everybody

12:26Speaker 2:is remixing all these old songs when nobody was even thinking about remixing like old songs, you know, because I was like, what eight nine years ago I was doing that, you know. So like I think once I started getting over all of that and just like seeing it all the time, I think I kind of like it put me at ease.

12:44Speaker 3:I guess, yeah, yeah, I mean that that did become burgs sounds.

12:47Speaker 2:Yeah literally, yeah, which is of course fire, like you know, like like I fuck with him, oh these so it's like I apace today. Yeah, We've always been in place, me and him never like had no, like I understood what it was like even with the just work. Like just the work, I can't say his work ethic is crazy and minus too. And again, when you find somebody that genuinely like gets you, like in the studio, like it's like very hard to find that, and then we find somebody, it's like, you know, so I'm I'm lacked in with him for life, like he gets it.

13:19Speaker 3:Yes, does he have any hand in this this project or no? This is all me?

13:25Speaker 2:Like this whole project was just me. I just wanted to give people something that actually genuinely came from me, you know, but like on my album, because this is just like a project that's just giving out to people. But on the actual album, yeah, I want to relive all the songs that we had did a couple of years ago. This is amazing, you know.

13:42Speaker 3:So it was someone to put the producers you worked with on this project.

13:46Speaker 2:Yeah, I worked with Rocco and everb He they're out of Ukraine, so a lot of the stuff they produce, they're fire producers. I like working with people that not really known to everybody, so yeah, they're.

14:00Speaker 1:From another country. Because there I've noticed that a lot of guys. When I hear some of their music and I'm like, yo, who did this? And they'll name somebody from like overseas. It's interesting because their ear and their sound and the sounds that they use with hip hop is totally different.

14:15Speaker 2:It is. It's different only because in the sense of like they like that our old school music, so like they are listening right now to like Wu Tang and all of those, like the vibes, and when they think of like music from America, they're looking at stuff like that, Like they're looking at R and B songs that Monica and like all of our like our kind are kind of arconic artists, Like you get what I'm saying. So that's why I use them because they their range is like insane, but it's very old school, you know.

14:43Speaker 3:Like so you find them on YouTube.

14:46Speaker 2:They found me on Instagram and I work as K and yeah my boy Ask, so shout out to Ask and shout out to Wolf and yeah, I worked with a few people on this project.

14:58Speaker 1:Are you doing any singing?

15:00Speaker 2:It's a cue? Uh am I doing singing? Jalen did I got us singing something on there?

15:07Speaker 1:Singing?

15:08Speaker 2:Ish?

15:08Speaker 1:I think little melodies.

15:10Speaker 2:Here and there little something something.

15:12Speaker 3:Yeah.

15:12Speaker 2:Berg actually was the one that got me into doing all of that. Yeah. At first, I was like, oh, no, me saying what you're bugging like, you know but in the.

15:20Speaker 1:House, singing in the shower r and be come on, you definitely want.

15:23Speaker 2:The shower like and nobody give me in the show. It's just me.

15:29Speaker 1:Should you should play with some melodies though?

15:30Speaker 2:No, but I I am, I am, I am, I'm getting into doing that. Yeah, Elevators Actually, yeah, there's a song of my project that this singing know something something.

15:41Speaker 3:Look, yeah, I forgot.

15:42Speaker 2:All about it.

15:42Speaker 1:Now that's the first song I'm gonna play. Yes, as soon as Down dropped that, some of the project.

15:46Speaker 2:Dropped the first listen to the intro, then then go to Elevators.

15:50Speaker 1:I bet I got you.

15:51Speaker 2:I want your honest opinion. You dogged me out to be honest with you, like we waited for this ship, like please do all of.

15:57Speaker 1:That wait for this bulls. Come on.

16:03Speaker 2:I really want people's honest opinion because I like did this myself. So if the next going around, how I need everybody's honest Yeah.

16:11Speaker 1:No, I think I think.

16:12Speaker 3:Well, I love that I kicked out your studio for that the first time I think we've met, not by me, No, no, no, You and Burg was cool. You and Berg wanted my opinion. It was the people that around you didn't particularly like my opinion.

16:23Speaker 1:Wow. Also, this is now, this is the thing with Rory. I'm glad you said.

16:27Speaker 2:None of those people are around, so you shouldn't have listened.

16:29Speaker 1:Yeah, but no, funk that he said that because I always get on here and tell Rory whenever he go to somebody's sessions, you need to sit down and shut the funck. No, but you've done that when nobody's asked.

16:38Speaker 3:For your agree But I'm saying in this instance, Berg had called me. I think, uh, what was the city of the Empire owned at the time. It was like any time Squares? Yeah, yeah, I forgot, Yeah, I forgot the name of it.

16:48Speaker 1:Yeah.

16:48Speaker 3:Berg asked me to come up to listen and stuff.

16:51Speaker 1:They was working on it. One of my opinions. Okay, so that was different. But he's done that when nobody's asked was opinion for sure?

16:57Speaker 2:I mean, don't don't play and I can't say yeahbout it because that if it's fire, you want me to be like, yo, that's fired.

17:03Speaker 1:But you definitely can't do that because you're a artists and you know y'all have sense, So you can't go to somebody's session mallible and they be rapping it like I ain't gonna lie that shit is not.

17:11Speaker 2:If they ask, I will be like maybe you should.

17:14Speaker 3:If they ask, yeah.

17:15Speaker 1:Okay, that's always the key if they ask.

17:19Speaker 2:I thing is if I was a blurt out, Yo, that was hard, like you would jack that, right, But if I would be like, Yo, that was trashed, Why you're not jacking that? Like you got what I'm saying? No, But people are like that every biased they want to hear like no.

17:32Speaker 3:And in my studio sessions, I'm not inviting anyone there that I don't value their opinion.

17:38Speaker 1:Good or bad.

17:38Speaker 2:Like if you invite Rory or even you more, if you were right as to the studio, you know what it was when you signed up, Like of course you're going to vocalize how you feel. So I feel like it's certain people that you know it's going to be like yeah.

17:49Speaker 1:But I've also been in sessions where I know, like, let me not say nothing in it.

17:53Speaker 2:That's crazure, you know what I mean?

17:55Speaker 1:You like I'll text you like, I'm not going to.

17:58Speaker 2:Say it if they're not Z please Yeah, I love that. Please.

18:03Speaker 1:You know. I'm with that because I wish that people would be more open to receiving constructive criticism, yes, about their art, but artists are sensitive about their creation and things like that. So I get that. But as an artist, you know that it's very sticky for you to be in somebody else's session, yeah and be like next thing, you know, they're on Instagram subbing you. It's a compety that come out of that.

18:26Speaker 2:I don't even go to other like yeah, I don't even be going to other people's sessions. So probably like Rich because that's like my best friend. I'd be in a session but he'd be like yes, and I'd be like yeah, but he never has anything that I would be like. That was Josh, you know, yeah, he's really really cool with the end the studio, like how he just goes in there and just freestyles everything. I wish I could do that I cannot, so like some bullshit will come out now.

18:49Speaker 1:The first time I heard you was at Jungle in the Burg session and I remember hearing the song and I'm like I thought, I thought I know you get tired of the comparison, but I thought he was working on SMO shit with fox. I'm listening to it and I'm like, I'm looking around. I'm like, it's the tone feels like Foxy, but it don't sound like Foxy. Is It's still a difference. Yeah, And I didn't know you were in the room. You was behind the board, like sitting down writing, and when the song went off, I was like, Yo, who the fuck is that? And then you stood up and I see this little girl. I'm like, that's her on top of her head. I'm like, that's her, like that voice just coming out of her. And Barry was like, Yo, I'm telling it. And from that day on, I was always paying attention. I'm like, I want to see what she does because it was just, first of all, you from the Bronx. I'm rude for anybody coming out of the hometown. But then it was like just a difference in your sound, your look, the things you were talking about, like it was very original to who you are.

19:45Speaker 1:So I'm happy that now you're in a better place. Yes you're not, You're jaded, but you've learned, yes, took accountability, yes, and now it's all about creating the next thing.

19:56Speaker 2:No, exactly. No, I'm excited because again, being locked in a contract for eight years, it was like what I I like, depressing, you know, and especially like figuring out and you know, like I'm not like how everybody went to like only fans and how everybody went to all these things selling all these things, selling their body, like just selling things. I didn't do nothing. I just sat there and just waited, like you know, and that a lot of people don't understand how much that took not for me to just like get on Instagram and crash out like you know, like and then I had a valid reason to crash out, you know, but I just didn't.

20:27Speaker 2:So I'm happy, like literally I didn't do that because it would have left first, it would have left us. I would taste on everybody's mouth. I feel like even if a crash out, yeah, like you know, so like and I feel like that's what they were telling people behind the scenes. They were literally telling people like, oh no, she does this and this and this, and it's like, you know, like not to too my horn. But I'd be chilling, like I'd be very chilly, like I don't do too much, like if you do something to me, all right, yeah I'm gonna do something. I'm gonna do it to you, like you know, but like I'm very chill, very chill. So yeah, trying to just like chill just not be able to release music was kind of like like very very difficult. But with this project, I'm so excited about it.

21:07Speaker 1:I'm happy you didn't crash out because you know, as a Ratchetlina. Yes, they don't understand. It's two sides to that.

21:13Speaker 2:They don't.

21:13Speaker 1:Yeah, it could get a little crazy.

21:15Speaker 2:Yeah, they don't. That's how I'll be telling people, like it's Malibu inside of me, and then it's Mitch, Like, you know, Mitch's the South Bronx site. Malibu's a bubbly side. You'll see me cracking jokes and I'll be, you know, very fun and goofy. But then Mitch is still in there, you know.

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22:23Speaker 3:Just lost some of my brain.

22:25Speaker 1:It was a beautiful It was a beautiful day. It was like y'all had a lot of fun. Is there any music with Summer that you've ever worked on?

22:32Speaker 2:We actually had work. She had her team had hit me up. This is when she dropped I think her first album. I think it was the first album. I was supposed to be on the Karma remix. Okay, yeah, So I went in there, did that and sent it over, but then they had moved directions. I think after Drake jumped on that one song, they were like, yeah, well not even that things change because he was already on it. But they found that, like we're like, you know what this project should probably be that only be the feature yeah from that yeah, but no, that was a like I have like a lot of music with a lot of men actually, but that was through Berg. So yeah, yeah, I have a lot of music, like my song, I have two songs of fab that really want to be out.

23:10Speaker 2:So when the project, like when my actual album drops, like I would love for that to be one of the songs.

23:15Speaker 1:Drink with Jeremiah I was dope.

23:18Speaker 2:Benjamin Cer, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I have a few songs with Jeremiah actually, so yeah.

23:22Speaker 1:I drink that record was dope. Yeah. Did you shot that in the Bronx Right?

23:26Speaker 2:We shot some of it in Harlem and then we shot like the store scene Alex in the way and let me use one of his stores in the dream Okay, so he like shut the whole story down for us to go over there.

23:37Speaker 1:That's big ship, that's fly right, that super fly.

23:40Speaker 2:And it's so funny. I used to steal from H and M with H and M and Alex and Luayne had the collab. I told him he's at He's like, look at this, So I love you. Yeah, I was stealing out of.

23:49Speaker 3:The H and I before I went to the.

23:54Speaker 1:I didn't heard him at all.

23:55Speaker 3:Didn't who didn't steal from started steal from when they.

23:58Speaker 2:Dropped that collab with Alix the way, I'm in there.

24:01Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm in there and I'm not paying for nothing discount. This is to go, this is to go. It's ab go the right.

24:12Speaker 3:Do you think you'll ever cash in on your your verse swap that that Nikki owes you, which I just made up. I know it's not that wasn't writing anything.

24:20Speaker 1:But.

24:22Speaker 2:Yes, I would love to, Like I would love to like tag team a song with her, like like Jaden Styles.

24:28Speaker 1:Yeah, that'd be that'd be flush you bless you.

24:30Speaker 2:But yeah, I would love to do that.

24:32Speaker 1:It's Nikki, give us your like when you first wanted to start writing raps and growing up in the Bronx, who was the MC that first you looked at him was like, damn, I want to do that.

24:46Speaker 3:Mm hmmm.

24:47Speaker 1:Because we asked guys this all the time. But We've never had a chance to ask a.

24:51Speaker 2:Few money because like it would probably be like between fifty and Jadakiss, not fifty son of jay Z. It would probably be one of the fifties. Like my favorite rapper of all time, like hands down, and then jay Z is like my second favorite. Well probably just them because like they used to vent to them through their music and I'm like not like a chatty patty on Instagram or Twitter, so like the only way I feel like I do or will be able to get my point acrosses through my music.

25:19Speaker 1:Okay.

25:20Speaker 2:So like even like probably because everybody, everybody I tell this too, they'd be like, that was your favorite album from jay Z? My favorite album was Kingdom Come. Okay, so like that album was just like him just like seeing some ship on there, you know. Even beach Chair. Beach Chair is probably like one of my favorite songs of all time.

25:37Speaker 1:Before we loves that record. I do You're being concetious? No no, no, Like I love that song.

25:45Speaker 3:Like so like Kingdom Come gets a bad rap and I think it's probably because our age. We were a little bit younger when it came out, so I think the older heads around us were like nah we fuk would just reasonable doubt jay Z like him pushing this sound like Lost Ones is one of my favorite jay Z song ever, like me literally now show me what you Got that just Blaze Flip is in credit like Kingdom Come gets a terrible rap.

26:06Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no feel bad and I don't get it but whatever.

26:09Speaker 3:That's the best Zy interviews interviews intros ever literally.

26:13Speaker 2:So so yeah. So that album probably made me want to like when I went to go relive it, like I was like, you know what, No, I want to be like so when I drop something, I wanted to be like this, like even with like sometimes I fight myself or I'm making the little Ratchelina songs, I'd be fighting myself because I'd be like when I go back to listen to like my iconic songs that made me feel like when I get in my feelings, when I get happy, when I get sad about something, I go and put on a jay Z, I go and put on many men. I go and put on those are the albums that I listen to, like you get what I'm saying. So I didn't want to put too much out of like the little Rachelina songs. I doesn't really resonate with me, But I know I got to make those because I know that's what people want to hear.

26:54Speaker 2:I don't want to get caught up on making stuff that people want to hear, because I literally don't care what you guys want to hear want to put out. Yeah, So, like definitely I fight myself on those songs all the time because I want to job stuff like how like jay Z's Kingdom come like.

27:09Speaker 3:You know, yeah, I mean, of course the ratchet songs are necessary and people do want to hear that, but you're competing with the sea of other ratchet songs that are single chasing. Yeah, I don't think it's the best way to build a fan base of returning quest exactly you're talking about shit people can relate to, is what exactly actually come back?

27:25Speaker 2:And then I feel like the masses of people are a little slow these days, the masses of people. So those are not the people that I want to be along in my fan base, like you know, like I want my fan base to be like working people, like you know, like not people that sit on the ass, and not people that scroll on Instagram and be making fake pages running their mouth. I don't want I don't want to, like yeah, but I don't want that crowd because then those are the crowds that they start bullying you as an artist. And they they were like, no, I don't want that, Like I want to like a legacy fan base that's like jay Z that's going to follow me forever, that I can have it forever, grow with you, you know. Yeah, Like you know, so.

28:01Speaker 3:There's such a kind way this generation is very slow, such a kind way to say, you know what it is like, I don't even want them to listening to my music.

28:14Speaker 2:Literally, and I'm scarning to stay retarded because I don't know if we could say that, we're allowed to say that. People said they are allowed to say that again if.

28:20Speaker 1:They try to cancel you, it's okay.

28:22Speaker 2:So yeah, already.

28:27Speaker 1:It was a exactly what are some of the things that you struggled with on a personal level, like as far as making this album, like away from the studio, what was some of the things that you.

28:41Speaker 2:Struggled with Finances? Definitely, because it was like I had to still show up and I still have to I wasn't making money like that, so I was like tapping into savings and stuff like that. So it was like it was very hard financially to still stay afloat, still look cute every day, and you know, but again luckily I have resources like Alix in the way to send me things aware and certain things, and certain other brands that were like, you know, always just like sending me things.

29:07Speaker 2:So it was like probably that just like staying aflow. And then my nephews moved them with me too, so I like bought a three bedroom and moved them in. So it was kind of hard like being there because it was like I was low key like a parent, you know. So I would literally go to and I would wake them up for school, make them breakfast, send them out, be back home doing interviews. I would set up my interviews and my music stuff for studio sessions, like in the morning or late at night when I know they're sleep right, So it was like I would want to run back home to make sure I feed them before they go well they come back from school and then but for like seven o'clock, I would set everything up later and stuff like that, so I'll make them dinner and stuff like that. And they were old enough to put this off and go to sleep and stuff like that. But it was just for that, yeah, because they that's what they wanted and that's what they expected.

29:58Speaker 2:Like I needed definitely, so so yeah, so I always tried to give them that. But a lot of people don't know that. I was, like I was a full time parent and my nephews for like three almost four years. It was like doing that as.

30:11Speaker 1:Well, that's the life change, and yeah it is.

30:13Speaker 2:But I love them so much and I love you know, I don't see myself having kids, so like, those are my kids?

30:19Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, which situation?

30:22Speaker 1:Now? Are they still with you?

30:23Speaker 3:No?

30:24Speaker 2:I moved to LA. I took a break because I'm like, I just signed a new deal. Yeah, I signed a new deal. So you know, I had to tell my little guys. I'm like, look, you're gonna be with your mom for a little bit for the next year, and then I'm gonna move them out. My goal is to move them out to LA with me by next year and then my oldest sisters. So my little sister is the one with the kids, four of them, so me and my oldest sister we don't have kids. My old is going to move to LA with me. So she helped me out with them too.

30:50Speaker 1:Do you prefer La over New York now?

30:53Speaker 2:A little bit. I do, because I feel like I've done everything that is to do in New York, so now I just wanted to be in like a different space, you know, Like, so yeah, I do prefer I layover.

31:04Speaker 1:It's more the energy is more laid back. Like no, as soon as you land in New York, you can feel there.

31:08Speaker 2:It's that, and then it's just more like like just waking up to palm trees and good weather every single.

31:14Speaker 1:Days, like you know, it's a level piece.

31:17Speaker 2:Yeah, it is, like it's just everything's pretty out there. So it's like I like to see that, you know. But I do miss the New York energy. Like sometimes I feel like I'm trying to lessen my accent a little bit because everybody starts, You're never I'll be trying to everybody laughs. When I talk, I'll be talking with my hands, and.

31:32Speaker 1:They don't want you to talk more. I want to hear it more.

31:35Speaker 2:They hear it, and then they do they do me this thing where they be like she said, and I just be like, oh my god, and they don't do they can't roll that tongue, so they be like la, La, La.

31:47Speaker 1:What are they la?

31:49Speaker 2:It is not even a roll.

31:50Speaker 1:That's a whole different thing. I don't even know what that is.

31:53Speaker 2:But a little bit, I'll be pissed off and I'm like, if you're gonna mock me, mock me right, do it right exactly? So yeah, and then there's like you be like you walk in like you're talking. So I have water water, like I hearing that they love to water for some reasons, changes things, But like I love.

32:15Speaker 1:La, I just don't as a New Yorker, I don't know if I could live full time in Yeah, but waking up and you said the weather, you know, the landscape, the scenery, and just the energy. The pace is a little slower.

32:26Speaker 2:Yeah.

32:27Speaker 1:New York is just like and we don't know it. We don't realize it because we grew up in it exactly and we live here. But the energy is always everybody.

32:35Speaker 2:Is just exactly. And I didn't. So it's funny, right. I was like walking around like downtown because I live downtown in La. So I'm walking around or whatever, and I got my ear pods and but I'm speed walking. I'm talking about I'm booming.

32:47Speaker 1:That's another thing.

32:50Speaker 2:Last year I'm booming, and I wonder why everybody's looking at me, like what the hell? And then I realized, like, yo, bitch, walk slowly. It's fine, like nothing, nobody's like, you know, like somebody behind you. And then they they in New York, they come around you. Then they turn around and look at you, like, why you are over there? I look crazy for speed walking.

33:07Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that's real.

33:09Speaker 3:Yeah, it's so funny.

33:11Speaker 1:Somebody else say that because it's such a real thing.

33:12Speaker 3:Well, I mean downtown, like it's okay to walk. I was walking on sunset in West Hollywood and my friend happened to be driving by.

33:18Speaker 1:Over It was like, are you okay?

33:20Speaker 2:You look crazy?

33:21Speaker 3:You're walking in noright. Now.

33:24Speaker 1:They don't understand the count of walking the exactly.

33:26Speaker 2:And I genuinely like to walk, Like even when I was living in New York or whatever, I was living by dykeman like, because I don't like to live like everybody's like, oh, go get a crib in Jersey. No, if I can't go to the day or like I like going to the ninety nine cent store. I love stuff like that. I can't walk around. I feel like I feel weird, like you know, like, so I like to still live around, but just when nobody knows me, Like a lot of people didn't really recognize me in Dykement, so so that was cool. And like, I just like to be able to walk around. So that's the part that I do kind of miss because even in downtown LA you could walk, but if you walk a wrong street, over them boom. And I didn't know that. I didn't know that. It's very like, you know, I gotta try lightly when.

34:11Speaker 3:I'm over there.

34:12Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm laughing because it's so real, like it'll be nice little lofts and things like that, and they don't left for you.

34:17Speaker 2:Like now I want heroin and it's like, you know, you might have to fight for your life. Like yeah, so I bought a knife and everything better. Somebody told me somebody was walking around with a machete, just walking around just like Kung Hong Kong. People know what. And I'm like, yeah, let me get a little knife.

34:36Speaker 1:Yeah, be careful.

34:39Speaker 3:If someone's doing that in New York, I probably leave them alone and alone.

34:43Speaker 2:Yeah, but I don't know they know they I heard that. They just they will do it to you. And I'm like, oh no, you know, like because I. You know our lottle crackheads out here.

34:54Speaker 3:You you know them.

34:56Speaker 2:It's that, you know that's on top of that. You all you gotta do is a a little here, and then they'll run away from you. Like they only play tough. They're not real life, La.

35:05Speaker 1:They real tough, and they're really crazy.

35:07Speaker 2:They're real tough over there. I got no, no, no, no no.

35:10Speaker 1:Yeah, that's so it's crazy.

35:13Speaker 2:It's crazy.

35:15Speaker 3:We take for granted our crackheads and are crazy. Every now and then you'll see one thing happen on the train, they'll put it on. But out of the thousand things that could happen, usually nothing happened.

35:24Speaker 2:Literally literally, Like.

35:26Speaker 3:They'll leave you alone if you leave them a little, just let them be crazy over there and everything.

35:30Speaker 2:And people be like, oh because of New York, you know the people on the trains, And I'm like, girl, please, it's not that bad. It's like yeahs though.

35:37Speaker 1:It's a different level, yeah, definitely level.

35:39Speaker 2:Yeah. You go out in La, Oh my god, what if LA drags me? Alright? So I went out to a club in LA. I don't club, mind, you gotta know, I don't club, right, but I just wanted to try and I wanted to try different things because I'm like, I got to stop being a home body. I got to just go out and enjoy myself. Right I go and no, I wanted to go home so fast only because their music. I can't get what the party was. No, but I knew one song. It was a mac Dre song that I love. I love that song, but the other music that they were playing I did not know it, so I didn't like it. And then they had like these girls that were dancing in there, like on the little stage, and they were dancing like l like G t A. So it was like the music I heard from GM said they were dancing like the G t A shippers. So I was just like, I was like, this is the thing.

36:33Speaker 1:To experience, you know GT it gets it from.

36:36Speaker 2:Literally, but I was like, probably never again, right, But I was like I cannot.

36:40Speaker 1:It always depends on the party and who's dg.

36:42Speaker 2:But then I and then it was mad actors in there, and they was just walking around and I never seen nothing like that before, so I'm like, what the hell? So it was I don't know.

36:50Speaker 3:Yeah, La, you just have to go to the right the right part, or you're going to end up in like the coke head Hollywood scene. If you don't like that the club you're going to.

36:59Speaker 2:That happen to me. I had seen something that like kind of like traumatized me because I've never seen people do like poken all that stuff. I've never seen that a day in my life, like, and then I seen it and it made me so sad. It was like real, real, real bad. It was like a house party. It was like real bad. I was like traumatized. Why I had called my sister crying the next day because I'm like, people don't even know what they do, so they couldn't.

37:21Speaker 2:And my sister's like, wait, wait, what are you crying for? Are you crying because you tried it? Are you crying?

37:24Speaker 3:Because I was like, girl, I know you were great because if you're crying seeing people do coke, you're no I would. You're empathetic to everybody.

37:34Speaker 2:And it was funny because I and it was like some pink stuff that was there too, and the people were doing what you say, it was yes, so in the paper, so I had so I called my sister to my sister about my sister say, you're crying because of that? And I had caught Rich about it too. I'm like, yo, people were doing like that. People got to know, this is my best friend.

37:56Speaker 1:You ain't called me.

37:57Speaker 2:No, No, he actually doesn't do all that stuff. It's funny. I don't know what a yeah.

38:03Speaker 1:He's like he's been yes.

38:05Speaker 2:So he's like, so, why are you crying? I was like, we're doing it, and then i'm and then he was like, okay, what color was it? I was like it was peak and he was like, oh, they were doing tootsye. I'm like Tootsie.

38:16Speaker 1:What is Southsea?

38:17Speaker 2:And then he was like that's what people do. Now, It's okay. You gotta get used to it because you're going to see more of that in LA. They're going to do it. So but I'm so like like a homebody and I like stayed to the people, like my friends have been my friends for twenty years, and I grew up on my blog. We don't do stuff like that. So I've never seen that, and I never went to these parties and stuff, so I've never seen that. So when I did see Yes, I was crying. I was upset about it. Jayalen was then I'm not called you crying and I was upset. I was upset, like like I was distraught for about a week about it.

38:45Speaker 3:It was probably asking foule question like, Okay, someone.

38:47Speaker 1:On coke did something to you.

38:49Speaker 3:I just saw them do it.

38:51Speaker 2:It was so sad because you know what we grew up watching like New Jack City and stuff like that. Why would you do that? Why would you touch that stuff? Did you not see how Holly Berry looked in that movie? Like it makes me like, you.

39:00Speaker 3:Know, like so that That was the first thing you have to get used to in LA when I first went to it was people doing cocin Yeah.

39:06Speaker 1:I mean I didn't.

39:07Speaker 3:It didn't make me emotional, but I was just like I was used to people that I knew that did coke would go to the bathroom or excuse themselves, like they would quietly do it, or they do it with other cocaine. Like there'd be a room that I didn't know about. Yeah.

39:20Speaker 2:I never even said in LA, they'll.

39:22Speaker 3:Just be at the island kitchen at a house party.

39:24Speaker 1:Yeah, you know people could see you right, no.

39:26Speaker 2:Literally literally, So I was just like no, no, no, no no no.

39:30Speaker 1:That's the one thing I love about LA though, Like the house No, well, the house party. They have great coke in La, you know, I mean like the just the house party, which I prefer over the club. That's yeah, that's because like La, you could somebody could be like, Yo, we're going to this house party and I'm like, all right, bet, come on, we go to the house party, and they're like, well, yeah, I didn't tell me this was Vin Diesel's house party.

39:50Speaker 2:Like it's so cool. I remember if somebody was inviting me they were like, we're going to a house party. I'm like, okay, where and they're like Jamie Fox And then I was like okay, But I was too already traumatized from I wanted that one party, so I was just like, oh no, I'm just gonna stay and look in my room, in my little cubicle or whatever.

40:06Speaker 3:Prey Clone Jamie or you saw Clone Jamie.

40:09Speaker 2:No I did.

40:10Speaker 3:That would make me cry.

40:10Speaker 2:I did not go, So I don't know.

40:13Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that though, Like I wish we had that culture here in New York. Yeah, house parties in New York. Like I went to a house party in Lambert, but I think it.

40:21Speaker 2:Would get shot up. So anything that's exactly what happened. So I'm not in the way. He did have a house party and that was cool. It was at his penthouse and I met Jana Jackson there. That was fine. It was so cool talking to Jana Jackson. He was like, Maliboul, you remind me of my best friend. She had the same voice as you, just lital And then Jenna had made like a like a joke that was so funny. I can I say it, but it was like I tell you guys offline, but it was so good that I was like, oh my god, and she was like, let's go to the bar, like and I just love that.

40:51Speaker 2:It was like, it was so cute.

40:52Speaker 1:Meeting house party and Janet is here, and.

40:55Speaker 2:Then she was talking to me like I was one of her homegirls. I loved it and I loved it.

41:00Speaker 1:That is one thing that I do love about me and Roy talk about that a lot like that. Coach in LA is definitely one of the best things about LA is the house party culture for sure.

41:07Speaker 2:Yeah, it was so cool. It was so cool.

41:12Speaker 3:Moall, Let's talk about behind the Bars presented by Sprite their living track list with some of the greatest hip hop songs of all time. Just running through this list, the ones that really stick out to me and really define a region. Cream for sure, I think as one of the greatest intros to a verse and just represented New York to this day.

41:33Speaker 1:That's like one of the greatest one of the sound songs in rap history.

41:38Speaker 3:Another I mean, it doesn't get the credit it deserves. Country Grammar. I feel like the West Coast had a sound, Atlanta had a sound, New York had a sound. We didn't really know how people from the Midwest talked, and I think country Grammar gets overlooked as a very iconic song for the Midwest.

41:54Speaker 1:Country Grammar is the Midwest Cream. It might be.

42:00Speaker 3:I do have to shout out to the millennials. I know your generation gave Crank that, you know a lot of problems. I still think it's one of the most iconic songs when it comes to pairing music with the Internet and what it did for kids introducing them to hip hop. So I still have Cranked that a little higher than I think maybe a purist would have, but it had that impact.

42:22Speaker 1:That huge, huge ring tone.

42:24Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean it started the first ringtones are now the TikTok sounds like that.

42:29Speaker 1:That was the first in its region.

42:31Speaker 3:Whether you like it or not, So I have cranked that super high as far as like really influential songs of everything that's on this track list.

42:38Speaker 1:Check out the full Sprite Living track list and break down the stories behind your favorite bars. The link is in our show notes. This is the Sprite Living track list. Ob your thirst. Aside from music, though, what are some of the things that you want to get into? Because I think you should model, Like, I think you are like the perfect likethetically. You have so many different vibes and I think that a lot of brands will be like, no, we need malleable on them.

43:06Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's one of the things that I want to do. I actually did a lot of modeling, like so that was kind of was keeping me afloat during that time when I was act in the contract, so I had I did a campaign for Alix in the Way for five and twenty one. Dapper Dan and Pepsi they did a collaboration together, Yeah, and who else Robert Cavali. They reached out. I had a campaign for them, and I was like on like little billboards and stuff. So I did a lot of modeling stuff in my early on careers, and luckily it was like we high fashion brands.

43:36Speaker 2:It wasn't you know, like nothing gets fashion over a pretty little thing, no, no, like And but the earlier on in my career, yeah, well I'm sure they do. I know fashion Over. They paid well. I had a little deal with them and they paid well. But like I've been blessed to say that at least, like my first gigs were like high fashion brands and stuff like that. So I want to I do want to get into more of And one day I want to like walk down the runway and like Victoria's Secret with some angel wings.

44:06Speaker 2:I want to do that so bad one day.

44:07Speaker 1:Well, listen, you already got the pool fighting scene with your best friend.

44:11Speaker 2:I know, I know, you know.

44:13Speaker 1:I mean that's something that can fall into the runway.

44:15Speaker 2:Yes, and then drawing, I draw, So I want to. Yeah, I drove really good.

44:19Speaker 1:Actually school did you go to?

44:22Speaker 2:I went to. I was in social justice. Well I was in North Carolina. My mother sent me down south for like three years.

44:27Speaker 1:So what I mean he was out here tripping?

44:29Speaker 2:I was, So I went to when I was is it always North Carolina?

44:35Speaker 1:Always always in North Carolina?

44:37Speaker 2:Told somebody that, like, I'm like, why did everybody from New York have a family member.

44:41Speaker 1:Something to the South.

44:43Speaker 3:I mean they asked, I want to go ahead and say it has something to do with coke against.

44:50Speaker 1:South. I'm just gonna.

44:51Speaker 3:Guess there was a specific connection between North Carolina and New York.

44:58Speaker 2:It's so weird. So yeah, my mother sent me down south. I went to Central Cabaris for two years and then I came up here and I went to Social Justice on Third Avenue, my like hostels. I asked them to kick me out of that school because they were kicking out my best friend at the time. And then I was like, I'm not gonna I'm a fair of school if y'all'll kicked me out with her. So they kicked us out together, and then I went to Leman Nice School. But then I dropped out on my twelfth grade year.

45:23Speaker 2:It's like I'm over this. Yeah, okay, everybody wanted to fight me in school and I was I don't.

45:30Speaker 1:Because she was at leaning just going there.

45:33Speaker 2:But it wasn't night school. I thought it should be more chill. But but you know, I used to always go to that, even like middle school and elementary school. I used to just always like you know, like when I was younger, like I never used to speak up for myself. I was so quiet. I was used to being around my sisters, like you know, like so I wasn't used to being around people like that, and my mom kept us in the house like we weren't allowed to like go outside and stuff like that when we were younger. So like I was used to being around my sister. So it translated into me getting bullied when I was in school. By the time I went to high school, that's when I started fighting people. My mother told me, like, defend out for yourself, and I was like, I can fight people, and she was like yeah, So I started literally yeah. I just kept fighting. So then I was like, you know what, I'm tired of it, Like I'm tired of just going to different schools and then people have issues with me for no reason, you know.

46:14Speaker 2:And if I was like a chatty patty that ran in my mouth, I will understand. Nope, I just know just never. And it's funny because it happens to me today. Girls be in my DM, fighting crime in your DM, fighting crime in my DM. I'm like Batman clearly and stuff. So they just be like righting.

46:31Speaker 3:They solve any crime.

46:32Speaker 2:No, they just be fighting them they in the fighting themselves and I just be like a girl.

46:38Speaker 1:But about what though, like you don't even seem like you're not.

46:42Speaker 2:It's literally they be fighting crime in my DM, like like it's real bad.

46:46Speaker 3:Yeah, you can't figure it out, Like is that ever a theme or is just it's all different crimes.

46:50Speaker 2:It's it's always a theme. I guess, Like I don't know. I guess sometimes people think that you should show them more love than they they show you. I guess I'm not sure about that. So that and then I had somebody write me like they're trying to make you into me and you're doing and I'm like, girl, I didn't know about you.

47:14Speaker 1:I didn't know you existed.

47:15Speaker 2:I was like, shit, not like an asshole, and I'm just like, you know, so I don't know. I don't know.

47:21Speaker 3:That's always been the ship when people say, oh I stole something for you this that like I mean, I wrote, I have never seen you before a day in my life, never watched your shit, no, never listen to And I don't know.

47:32Speaker 2:I don't be on Instagram like that like you know, like I really like I pride myself on not being one of those people like I don't read the comments so after when people write underneath my page, like, I don't do none of that because I don't want to get warped in that whole. I care about Instagram and social media too much. I don't want to be that artist like you know, like so yeah, so I don't know. I just don't be on there enough for people to think that I stole or do anything or just like you know, like ignoring people. Didn't see a like, didn't see a comment that people are like fighting crime?

48:01Speaker 3:Yeah, so do you ever Well, I'm sure you do. But do you ever pay attention to the stand Twitter stand Instagram with the girls in rap? Because that's the real war on terror? You know?

48:15Speaker 1:Yeah?

48:15Speaker 3:Is everyone choosing a certain especially in the female rapper worlds where strays are thrown to people that aren't even involved with shit?

48:25Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like you can't just get caught up in that because a lot of beef starts because somebody thought somebody was talking about them, or the fans start saying things, and then it leads you to start thinking that that's why I don't look at the comments. I don't look at the comments. I don't read the comments, you know, like I just don't do that because it it has it starts you when you see and hear something so much over and over and over, you start to think that in your head now and I don't got your starts to become real. Yeah, and I do not want to be out here fighting crime, like like you know, no, no, no, no no, leave that to the police. Yeah. Even like when I wasn't dropping music, everybody was like, oh, she's not dropping what's wrong with her?

49:04Speaker 2:Oh she's inconsistent. What's I start of saying, I'm like.

49:07Speaker 1:Let me go, let me get Yeah, what's the biggest misconception about you that you think you've read or heard?

49:14Speaker 2:Biggest miss comes such.

49:17Speaker 1:Like something that you've read about you? You're like, what, Like that's not true?

49:22Speaker 2:Damn. It was probably when the whole thing happened with I think it was probably that because at that time, like the people, the ones that she was beefing with on the song, it looked like I was like a hater and like I joined them on that, which I I was. Damn all right, So this is my first time I was talking about this, So let me worry to myself perfectly. So around that time when the song had jobbed, Katie got bands asked me to get on one of her songs. I jumped on it. And then around the time when I guess when that whole beefing thing happened online, Yeah, ok Bar was kind of going at her, and then Katie got Bands and Asian doll with beefing and they were all going at it, and Katie posted the song that we had did together. I didn't want to know that it was a dish towards Asian.

50:29Speaker 2:I didn't know that. And then Akbar threw a verse on there, which I didn't know about either. So then I guess it looked like everybody was subbing and it looked like I was a part of that. And then somebody had tweeted along the lines of like, oh, pick a side. It just needs to pick sides. And because I was cool with Asian, though cool with Katie, like you know, like pick a side, somebody I don't remember over there has said something along those signs of it was Kai eight Asian or Katie one of them. So I just basically said my gist, nobody put me in nothing because I don't want to be in nothing. If I do get in something, I'm coming outside, like you know, like, don't talk about me because my feelings get hurt. Just don't talk about me because my feelings get hurt. And that translated into these hands like you know, so like Carti's fans saw that and was retweeting it, so it looked like I was talking.

51:19Speaker 1:About her, okay, gotcha.

51:20Speaker 2:Yeah, so then it made me look like a hater. So then after then it's like she I posted them aside, I'm around, and I'm like, fuck no, we from the Bronx. You can't talk like that. We can't talk like that because we know what that means, like you know, like in the towns, we know what I mean. So it's like, damn, I gotta pop out. And then I popped out, and then it was just like so immature, like it was so stupid. It was so immature, like and it wasn't like if I had a personal issue, then okay, cool, Like you know, like if I yeah, and if I did something, I was stand on it. I stood on it because I'm like, you know, what, fuck it's up now like whatever, like you know, but at the time, like it wasn't that, like, you know, and everybody looked at me as a hater because of it, like I jumped on a bandwagon of attacking somebody and doing all of that. So I think that was like the misconception about that because I hate seeing that and it's like when you look me up or anything, that's like the first thing that's there, like the videos and all of that, and I can understand how it did look like I was like a hater. Yeah, I think that was probably

52:19Speaker 2:like the only misconception I think anybody.

52:22Speaker 1:Things happened like that more than often, though, Like it starts it's something so innocent, like that wasn't my intention at all, and then it's like it turned into something and you like get caught up in that energy now like now I'm in it and I didn't even know that this was a thing.

52:36Speaker 2:And then it looked person begin with yeah yeah, And then it also looked like like Nicki Minaj sent them to do that, and she would never do that, Like she's not that person to be like, hey guys, let's sit in this corner and gang up on this person. She's not that. Even when we did we had the show with her, she brought us out for one of the shows. She we were like sitting down and talking and she literally said it like like to everybody, like she knew my situation that it wasn't that. So she literally said to other girls, I don't stop going on Instagram basically fighting crime for me, Like I don't need nobody to talk for me. I don't want people to think that I have y'all jumping on people's I'm not telling y'all to do that, so like, and she made that very clear, like you know, like so so yeah, I think that was like the big misconception that like Nikki sent us over there to do that, and it was like definitely not the case at all.

53:31Speaker 3:Yeah, did you ever get a chance to ever speak to Cardi after the situation?

53:36Speaker 2:No, we have saw each other. What's the karaoke night that it was so packed in there? But like like no, but no, we never spoke about it. But it's like I feel like if it was like something to speak about, then it was something to speak about. I don't think it was worth conversation. I'd be like that with my friends, Like you know, like if me and my friends go through something the night before and nothing like that, like it's like it's fine, like.

54:01Speaker 1:There's nothing to talk about that that is.

54:03Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not nothing to like it's not that deep to have conversations and like because.

54:10Speaker 1:In doing that, you know what I've noticed in doing that, when you try to be like you'll just have a conversation, trying to have a conversation about something will give it more energy and make it feel like it's something.

54:19Speaker 2:That's like like I lose sleep over it. I don't think yeah, like you know, like like I I knew that. I like I know, I'm not no damn hater and nothing like that, like you know, so it was like it wasn't even like a thing that I like was like, oh this is I gotta get this all for my No, it wasn't none of that. Like again, it wasn't that deep for me, like you know, like so so yeah.

54:41Speaker 1:I respect that, but I do understand how things turn into you know, manifest into bullshit and it's like that wasn't even.

54:47Speaker 3:It was a messy It was a messy week too. It was it was like even when that type of drama gets on my radar, because that's not necessarily my world of every girl that was on the remix and this whole thing. Once I was glued to the screen of who was going to enter the dojo, I was like, this is crazy, Like there was conspiracy theories.

55:08Speaker 1:It was a wild week. So I feel for you.

55:09Speaker 3:Yeah, and it was We've been in those types of things too online when it's like you've reading something like well none of this is true.

55:14Speaker 2:No literally, and it was messed up because it was like it kind of like took took away the.

55:19Speaker 3:Moment, the moment of moment of how the record was everyone coming together.

55:22Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so it just yeah, So I just hated that for like all of us at that time, because that song was it should have just been focused on how amazing that was, how Nicki got like a bunch of female rappers on one song, like you know.

55:36Speaker 1:Like brought them out to the show, put them on next day.

55:38Speaker 2:Yeah, it should have fully about that, like and like the song was so good and like I literally when I heard the even like the fact that nick even wrote me about it to get on the song like that, I was just like flabbergas say, I'm just like, like it's Nicki Minaj, Like I grew up listening to her so I think that outshine, Like it didn't outshine it because the song did what it did and but everything, but it was It's just like it was just a very amazing moment. Yeah, got kind of.

56:04Speaker 1:Like, but I mean there was also a good moment.

56:09Speaker 3:She even mentioned that, you know, she heard your flow on it, and you was like, cool moment.

56:14Speaker 2:But this is why it was a lot. This is what I'm saying. It was literally I was on a high, Like I was on a high from that song because I'm like first and she said it, she reported that part like it was shot and she said it, and I was just like like the fact that she even said that, like Malibu inspired me to come back to write another verse and the flow and the fact that she picked up on my bars where I left off, and it's like like I'm like, like I love rap rap Like so that was like my Jada and Stouth moment, like you know, like how we tag team that, Like I don't know. I was just so happy around that time and it was just like it was just amazing, Like it was just super cool. And then I had just came out of the hospital too. I had my appendix removed too, so a lot of people didn't know that too. So I was out, sorry, checking, I was talking about something. I'm outside limping, I append this move.

57:05Speaker 2:I'm outside, I'm like no, never, it was no, it was real bad. Like I came on the hospital a day before. It was a day before, like so yeah, so but that's that bron ship like man, no, but I gotta I gotta like I'm trying to just like like be like like you said, like my energy's more calm, cool. And now I'm thirty five, I feel like you know. And then I got my nephews. Like around that time, my nephews, they was going outside fighting crime. They fought somebody. No, it was real bad. They were going to school fighting people.

57:39Speaker 2:So when all of that went viral too, like they did because they're still outside and in school, and my nephews is like, you know, they be, they be you know, a little fake gangsters and stuff. So they was outside fighting and I hated it. They were like yo JJ. They called me by like my little nickname. They were like yo JJ. People were talking to school and and and then I was like never again, if I could take that back, for like for that reason, because I felt like a look like I hate it and I felt like my nephews, like it was so bad. So that's why I don't say nothing on social media. And I want nothing because like my nephews, they're still outside.

58:17Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you got you gotta be aware of that.

58:19Speaker 2:Yeah.

58:20Speaker 1:But the music is on the way.

58:21Speaker 2:Yes, the music is on the way.

58:23Speaker 1:New single.

58:24Speaker 2:Yes, I'm super excited about it. I went back and forth from you know it was again the videos will be dropped when the jobs. Yeah, so me and my best friends rolling around and a little pool of water fighting each other.

58:40Speaker 1:Somemertime, we just of America.

58:47Speaker 2:Yes, sounds super excited. This is a little different song, so I was kind of like balancing off both voices, like I feel like Malible is more like the bubbly soft voice of mine, my naturally speaking to one and the mitches like South Bronx grew deep voice.

59:00Speaker 1:Right.

59:01Speaker 2:So yeah, so I did both voices on this song. So it was very cute. I wanted like a crime mob type song, you know my wife. He was very little, like a little Rachelina song.

59:10Speaker 1:Little Ratchelina. I love ratchet Lina. Yes, let me know when you dropped Rattelina hoodies.

59:14Speaker 2:I need to do something. Get you wear.

59:18Speaker 1:Is what you are.

59:20Speaker 2:I love that you guys wear, but like a full episode w you guys.

59:25Speaker 1:Hoodie different colors.

59:27Speaker 3:I don't want to like that, Like we'll definitely wear a hoodie.

59:31Speaker 1:But I don't you the name of the album, Mitch.

59:34Speaker 2:It's called Sailagon, like Sila Moon.

59:37Speaker 1:So yes, Salagoon. I like that.

59:39Speaker 2:That's why you're having these ideas.

59:42Speaker 1:Man, big Bronx ship, Mitch. Anytime you in New York, please don't come by. Come can't holler at us. Anytime were on the West Coast, we got to make sure we hit you up. Do dinner or something or something, have some fun. I'm not nigga, he's just that's the Bronx is very malleble. Mitch.

1:00:00Speaker 3:Go get that sailor gooon now, wifey out now, Sailor goon that that video to run the streams.

1:00:07Speaker 1:Up on that. We need to see that Sailor make that number one on the cow down. No Willia