23 Apr 2026 · 44 min
170. We’re Taking A Break.
Today, an open and honest conversation between Jess and Caroline. (James Blunt’s song, “Goodbye My Lover,” is featured in The Office, Season 3, Episode 10, "A Benihana Christmas.")
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by Not For Everyone · English · Health
Not for Everyone is a podcast hosted by a hater (Caroline Winkler) and a lover (Jess DeBakey). We're just two sweet kooks getting carried away being ourselves, waxing poetic on every topic we care too much about. Come for the humor, stay for the honesty. We know we’re not for everyone, but we bet we
23 Apr 2026 · 44 min
Today, an open and honest conversation between Jess and Caroline. (James Blunt’s song, “Goodbye My Lover,” is featured in The Office, Season 3, Episode 10, "A Benihana Christmas.")
S1 · E169 · 16 Apr 2026 · 55 min
This episode is sponsored by Betterhelp. When life feels overwhelming, therapy can help. Sign up and get 10% off at BetterHelp.com/notforeveryone. ___ Hey! Hi! Today a passing comment about pediatricians leads to a wide-ranging discussion about the things we read, watch, and obsess over. Jess and Caroline explore an assortment of interests, including the evolving experience of childhood and their personal relationships to learning. Then they go deep on such admittedly shallow fare as The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, Traitors, and Temptation Island. Would you ever go on a reality TV show?…
S1 · E168 · 9 Apr 2026 · 55 min
This episode is sponsored by Factor. Head to Factormeals.com/NOTFOREVERYONE50OFF and use code notforeveryone50off to get 50% off and free daily greens per box, with new subscription only, while supplies last until 9/27/2026. See website for more details. This episode is sponsored by Zocdoc. Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to Zocdoc.com/NOTFOREVERYONE to find and instantly book a doctor you love today. ___ Hi boos! Today Jess and Caroline counsel a Kook University student who is looking for guidance on a recent breakup that went, possibly, too well. These fellow eighth year…
S1 · E167 · 2 Apr 2026 · 58 min
This episode is sponsored by Skims. Shop our favorite bras and underwear at SKIMS.com/notforeveryone . After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select our show in the dropdown menu that follows. #skimspartner ___ Hello! Hello! Welcome back to the “girl science” lab. Today’s first experiment, i.e. whatado, involves a cat, a crush, and the tough questions that come up when confronting loss. Jess sorts through her own full-body hater reaction, while Caroline explains how the whole world would be better if we all could just…
S1 · E166 · 26 Mar 2026 · 1 hr 5 min
This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Your emotional wellbeing matters. Find support and feel lighter in therapy. Sign up and get 10% off at BetterHelp.com/NOTFOREVERYONE . ___ Welcome back to class, babies! Your favorite professors have two whatados on the syllabus today, so take notes! First up, a Kook University student wonders if fantasizing about someone other than your beloved is on the spectrum of normal. In response, Jess and Caroline explore the life-giving force of mutual attraction and the purity of orgasms. Another pupil seeks out guidance on how to deal with the stark…
S1 · E165 · 19 Mar 2026 · 1 hr 2 min
This episode is sponsored by HelloFresh. Go to HelloFresh.com/NOTFOREVERYONE10FM to get 10 free meals + a FREE Zwilling Knife (a $144.99 value) on your third box. Offer valid while supplies last. Free meals applied as discount on first box. New subscribers only. Varies by plan. ___ Welcome babies and gentlemen! Your esteemed scientists test out some new theories and theorems this week as they tackle two whatados (and the legit challenge of reading aloud). First up, a potluck predicament in South Africa leads to a discussion about social faux pas and the potential cost of speaking up, even…
S1 · E164 · 12 Mar 2026 · 49 min
This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Your emotional wellbeing matters. Find support and feel lighter in therapy. Sign up and get 10% off at BetterHelp.com/notforeveryone . This episode is sponsored by Factor. Head to factormeals.com/notforeveryone50off and use code notforeveryone50off to get 50 percent off and free breakfast for a year! Offer only valid for new Factor customers with code and qualifying auto-renewing subscription purchase. ___ Hi kooks! The lab coats are off this week as your two trusted scientists take a break from hard core advice-giving and dive into some silliness…
S1 · E163 · 5 Mar 2026 · 1 hr 3 min
This episode is sponsored by Zocdoc. Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to Zocdoc.com/NOTFOREVERYONE to find and instantly book a doctor you love today. ___ Have no fear, your favorite amateur scientists are here! Today’s lab experiment, aka whatado, is from a listener who is struggling to accept her husband’s public displays of affection towards her. Both Caroline and Jess draw from their relationship histories as they discuss the value of getting your unwanted feelings out in the open. They also explore their personal PDA preferences, along with the significance of examples…
S1 · E162 · 26 Feb 2026 · 1 hr
This episode is sponsored by Cozy Earth. Head to cozyearth.com and use code NOTFOREVERYONE for up to 20% off. And if you get a Post-Purchase Survey, be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here! This episode is sponsored by Factor. Head to factormeals.com/notforeveryone50off and use code NOTFOREVERYONE50OFF to get 50% off and free breakfast for a year. New subscribers only. Varies by plan. 1 free breakfast item per box for 1 year while subscription is active. This episode is sponsored by Skims. Shop our favorite bras and underwear at SKIMS.com . After you place your order, be…
S1 · E161 · 19 Feb 2026 · 1 hr 15 min
This episode is sponsored by HelloFresh. Go to hellofresh.com/NOTFOREVERYONE10FM to get 10 free meals + a FREE Zwilling Knife (a $144.99 value) on your third box. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/NOTFOREVERYONE . ___ Babies, your dear scientists send their loveliest regards as they address a whatado about friend group dynamics when big life choices like buying a house enter the chat. Caroline draws on lessons from group therapy, while Jess gets vulnerable about her habit of making quick assumptions about others. Then these two share a…
S1 · E160 · 12 Feb 2026 · 1 hr 4 min
Hey kooks! Your lovable scientists are back, and they’re vying for a Nobel Prize (they’ll take any one of them) while tackling an extremely relatable whatado from a 23 year old “shy introvert” in San Francisco asking for newbie dating advice. Jess and Caroline insist that being charismatic isn’t the only way to stand out on the dating scene and wax poetic about the value of being courageous. Then Jess tells us all about a new challenge she accepted and its profound healing effect. And Caroline reflects on her own relationship to fear. The whole conversation leads these two to reflect on the…
S1 · E159 · 5 Feb 2026 · 53 min
This episode is sponsored by Skims. Shop our favorite intimates at skims.com . Be sure to let them know we sent you by selecting “podcast” in the dropdown menu following checkout. This episode is sponsored by Zocdoc. Go to Zocdoc.com/NOTFOREVERYONE to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. ___ Hey lab rats! Your beloved scientists are back! This week, Jess and Caroline tackle a whopping whatado about a (so-called) bridezilla. They examine the issue from all possible angles with a mix of tough love and genuine empathy. Along the way, these two expound upon wedding dress codes, pine…
S1 · E158 · 29 Jan 2026 · 1 hr 17 min
This episode is sponsored by Skims. Shop our favorite intimates at skims.com . Be sure to let them know we sent you by selecting “podcast” in the dropdown menu following checkout. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month at BetterHelp.com/NOTFOREVERYONE . __ Wow wow wow! This week Jess is ready to tell Caroline all about her trip to Austin, including a story of beverages and AI gone wrong. They chat secret menus, taking trips as a homebody, and articulate what type of travel they actually want to participate in. They explore how they feel about navigating…
S1 · E157 · 22 Jan 2026 · 1 hr 16 min
This episode is sponsored by HelloFresh. Go to hellofresh.com/notforeveryone10fm to get 10 free meals + a FREE Zwilling Knife (a $144.99 value) on your third box. This episode is sponsored by Cozy Earth. Head to cozyearth.com and use code NOTFOREVERYONE for up to 20% off your purchase. __ Babies, a new year always brings on that age-old question: WHATADO?! Luckily, Jess and Caroline have got the answers for you. From micromanaging moms to friends stuck in victim loops to people abandoning their communities and then complaining about it, topics run the gamut of all things flummoxing. They…
S1 · E156 · 15 Jan 2026 · 1 hr 10 min
Shop our favorite intimates at https://skims.com/ . Be sure to let them know we sent you by selecting "podcast" in the dropdown menu following checkout. Go to https://Zocdoc.com/NOTFOREVERYONE to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. #sponsored __ Today is a day for complaining! Jess and Caroline are coming at the girls—but in a productive way. They discuss womanly hosting quirks, like the overbearing desire to help when you don’t actually need to help. As for the life check-ins at girls’ nights? Save it for your family party. They’ve got a few ideas for breaking the pattern…
S1 · E155 · 8 Jan 2026 · 1 hr 5 min
This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month at https://BetterHelp.com/NOTFOREVERYONE __ Happy New Year, kooks! Jess and Caroline are back for a chatty episode revolving around their goals for 2026. This time, it’s all about achieving work/life balance—but not in the ways you might expect. Jess talks a new hack for separating her work from her personal life, Caroline talks building her team, and they both try to nail down their “whys” for wanting to be more present in their lives. Plus, they discuss the feeling of always being in trouble—whether that’s with a boss,…
S1 · E154 · 1 Jan 2026 · 1 hr 7 min
The holidays are rife for loneliness and feeling down about your situation. So we wanted to send you a little bolstering, and some reasons to hang in there...plus a bit of time travel. This episode comes from the Not For Everyone archives, it originally aired on April 21, 2023 and the original recording took place a few hours before Caroline met Justin for the very first time. Jess and Caroline unpack the fear of abandonment, and the exhausting belief that your worth is tied to how well you perform socially. Caroline opens up about a messy breakup, taking a break from dating, and nervously…
S1 · E153 · 25 Dec 2025 · 1 hr 21 min
Welcome to Holiday Hug, where the N4E team extends a warm embrace from their Christmas break to yours - because let's be honest, the love isn't always flowing when we're back in our childhood homes. This week opens with your lover as she takes us back to Episode 87, an all-time favorite of hers from the archives. It's one she thinks back on often, as she and Caroline recorded it just moments before a very difficult conversation she knew she was going to have to face. Jess talks about what it feels like to be over a year out from that moment, and invites the kooks to re-listen since she knows…
S1 · E152 · 18 Dec 2025 · 1 hr 4 min
This podcast is sponsored by Aura Frames. Get $35 off the Carver Mat at https://on.auraframes.com/SCIENTIST with code SCIENTIST. Go to https://zocdoc.com/notforeveryone to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. __ Happy holidays, kooks! Jess and Caroline have convened to discuss all things holiday hot takes. From opening presents one person at a time to staying with family even when you’re drained to the correct Christmas light colors, they unleash their inner demons to validate your concerns. Plus, expect a deeper talk spurred from a listener DM about family…
S1 · E151 · 11 Dec 2025 · 1 hr 12 min
This podcast is sponsored by Aura Frames. Get $35 off the Carver Mat at https://on.auraframes.com/SCIENTIST with code SCIENTIST. Go to https://www.hellofresh.com/notforeveryone10fm now to Get 10 Free Meals + a Free breakfast for Life! __ Kooks, welcome to another week of takes that are not for everyone! Jess and Caroline jump right in with a discussion on how we should be able to disagree with each other without it meaning the relationship is damned. They talk about those friends who just love to debate, and then try out a few This-or-Thats to see if they can get into fights with each…
S1 · E150 · 4 Dec 2025 · 1 hr 12 min
This podcast is sponsored by Aura Frames. Get $35 off the Carver Mat at https://on.auraframes.com/SCIENTIST with code SCIENTIST. Shop our favorite pajamas at https://skims.com/ . Be sure to let them know we sent you by selecting "podcast" in the dropdown menu following checkout. __ Happy three years to N4E! Jess and Caroline reflect about their time as podcast co-hosts, and then dive into a couple complaints about, well, talking to each other on the internet. They discuss the difference between in-person conversations and online ones, activism on the internet, and they do a little follow-up…
S1 · E149 · 27 Nov 2025 · 1 hr 19 min
This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month at https://BetterHelp.com/NOTFOREVERYONE __ Happy Holidays, kooks! Today, Jess and Caroline call in an expert - who also happens to be one of Jess’s closest friends: Kate Berman, AMFT - to discuss your WHATADOs just in time for that awkward family dinner. They start off strong with a question about whether the listener should join her boyfriend’s family vacation even after his father seemed less than pleased with the idea. Then they move into a question about unexpected divorce, which leads them down a rabbit hole on the…
S1 · E148 · 20 Nov 2025 · 1 hr 16 min
Go to https://Zocdoc.com/NOTFOREVERYONE to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. #sponsored __ The duo is back after a couple vacations, and they’ve got a lot to say about travel. First up, a complaint about business class flights, some thoughts on international airlines, and some ideas about cafe culture and different paces in life. Plus…you don’t want to miss another shocking Instagram story, this time involving button quails. Jess and Caroline talk about how to make money in the digital world, respect for the risque hustle, why limited options actually make you work a little…
S1 · E147 · 13 Nov 2025 · 58 min
Shop our favorite pajamas at SKIMS.com . After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Get 10% off your first month at https://BetterHelp.com/NOTFOREVERYONE Go to https://www.hellofresh.com/notforeveryone10fm now to Get 10 Free Meals + a Free breakfast for Life! __ If you woke up feeling all lovey dovey, it’s probably because you just KNEW a Love Letter was coming for you <3. Jess is here post-vacation to talk through some listener-submitted WHATADOs. She starts with a question about friends drifting apart right before a wedding, and dives deep into ego in friendships and…
S1 · E146 · 6 Nov 2025 · 1 hr 11 min
Check out This Month's Craft and use code NotForEveryone20 for a 20% off discount code for your first box. Get 10% off your first month at https://BetterHelp.com/NOTFOREVERYONE __ Kooks, be honest: do you like Whole Foods? Jess and Caroline start out the episode with their complaints about the health food superstore, which then leads into a conversation about splitting chores with their partners, constantly coming up with new home design projects, and the overwhelm of always wanting to change your surroundings. Then, Jess gives an exciting update: she’s deleted Instagram! The two talk about…
S1 · E145 · 30 Oct 2025 · 1 hr
It’s Hater Hour up in here! But not just one hater; Caroline’s fiancé Justin is also joining the chat, and boy if he isn’t a sassy baby. The two start out by discussing some of Justin’s personal hates: the phrase “you’re allowed to feel that way” and people’s obsession with outer space. Then, a third hater joins: their cat, Whitley! They chat all about why they got the cat and what Whitley has meant to their lives so far. But wait, there’s more! They dive into toxic patterns of people they used to date, feeling alive in relationships, and ideas about home renovations. And then some more…
S1 · E144 · 23 Oct 2025 · 1 hr 11 min
Go to https://zocdoc.com/notforeveryone to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. __ Hello to our haters and lovers! Though today, the haters are really shining. Jess and Caroline read through a few listener submissions for their series Am I The Hater? Topics include taking a roommate’s absence personally, pointing out a friend’s boyfriend’s babyface, and canceling on attending a wedding for a curious reason. Of course, these questions turn into deeper conversations, where J and C ruminate on judgement replacing communication, learning who your friends really are, what…
S1 · E143 · 16 Oct 2025 · 1 hr 22 min
Get 10% off your first month at https://BetterHelp.com/NOTFOREVERYONE Check out the lace Fits Everybody Collection at https://skims.com/notforeveryone #skimspartner __ If you find yourself looking back at high school and wondering…what was that? You’re not alone. Jess and Caroline start out the episode ruminating on the universal feeling of trying to fit in while feeling very alone at pivotal ages in our lives. This conversation leads into a deeper thought spiral about insecurity, constantly seeking for meaning, and why organized religion isn’t always the answer. Plus, J and C follow up…
S1 · E142 · 9 Oct 2025 · 1 hr 26 min
This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh. Get up to 10 FREE meals at https://hellofresh.com/NOTFOREVERYONE10FM __ What’s up, kooks? Ever had a parasocial relationship? Us, too. Jess and Caroline discuss the creators they relate to, why those relationships are special, and why they’re kind of weird, too. Up next: a complaint! J has a weird retail experience, which leads the two to discuss the weird blame game people play, and how built-up resentment equals the end of customer service. Then, they discuss motivation from another angle. It’s kind of a chicken/egg situation: does motivation…
S1 · E141 · 2 Oct 2025 · 1 hr 20 min
Hi there, kooks! This week, Caroline and Jess have a surprise party to debrief on. C was shocked to discover friends and family—including J—at her parent’s house, and is honestly still recovering. J tells her side of events and then the two discuss feeling loved and the best ways to pull off that sort of surprise. Then J reveals that she and her partner traded their traditional social roles at a party recently, and it made her consider again if she’s doing too much in her relationship(s). What are the ways we connect with people? What could a party be like if we didn’t try so hard to connect…
Not for Everyone is a podcast hosted by a hater (Caroline Winkler) and a lover (Jess DeBakey). We're just two sweet kooks getting carried away being ourselves, waxing poetic on every topic we care too much about. Come for the humor, stay for the honesty. We know we’re not for everyone, but we bet we
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