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No phones. 1 Week. Only for 12 hours at a time (I know we look like Buddhist monks but spoiler we’re not). On this podcast we combat our ever-present rage by challenging ourselves to try new activities, experiment with habit breakers, get educated and take that tap class we keep talking about. Find out what we learned from our smart phone detox. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Speaker 1:All right, welcome to the Rage Pod. We're all pissed off. I'm just going to get into it. But we have recorded this episode five times over. None of the equipment has worked out. Apparently, E-Bar did a slow fall off of the bed, knocked over all of the equipment with Wendy in the room. I don't know what the f * * * is going on. What I will say, welcome to the Rage Pod yet again. You can hear it in my voice, but that's why we're f * * * ing here doing this f * * * ing and recording this one specifically for the 17th time in a goddamn row.
Speaker 1:We're switching things up for season two, so why don't you go ahead and tell them what the.
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, that's my lovely co-host, Tara Erickson. As per usual, we are here with our producer, Wendy. And I just want to clarify one thing. When she said that I fell on our equipment, there wasn't a single piece of equipment that I didn't take down with me. Everything was turned over upside down.
Speaker 3:Including lights.
Speaker 2:And when I finally got up and we looked at each other like, oh my God, did that just happen? Then the one standing piece of equipment, the one ring light that survived just tips over.
Speaker 3:Like in a sad, fuck you, you're not done.
Speaker 4:It was so funny.
Speaker 5:And I was trying not to laugh, trying to get this shit set up. And then we think we get it there and Ibar fucking tumbles ass off the bed and took out everything. It was kind of what we needed.
Speaker 4:So we're raging. We're raging.
Speaker 2:And as Tara mentioned, season two, we're doing things a little bit differently.
Speaker 3:As you can see, we are still enraged. Don't worry. We're still very much in that state.
Speaker 2:But we decided like, hey, what if we tried to combat some of our rage or distract or just have some fun with some different activities? Some pattern disruptors, which apparently is a... crazy novel term to my co-host Tara. But anyway, so doing some things like something you've always wanted to do, but you're too scared to do it, facing your fears, you know, maybe doing, trying some healthier habits for a period of time and seeing what that does for you. So we're going to do for every episode, we're going to do something like that. And for this very first episode, which is truly been a shit show, we did something that was.
Speaker 3:For our mental and emotional health, we did no phones for 12 hours.
Speaker 4:No phones.
Speaker 1:For one week.
Speaker 3:Thank you. For one week. 8 p.m. to 8 a.m. is where we started.
Speaker 2:And then we very quickly realized we are not going to be able to stay within those confines.
Speaker 3:Like, we're not in the military. We're not doctors.
Speaker 2:So.
Speaker 3:Very like off.
Speaker 2:I think it was like day two when I was like, OK, I think I'm doing nine to nine. There's a lot of like a lot on our group chat of, oh, shit, I.
Speaker 3:Think I'm 945.
Speaker 2:That means my morning is going to be real long.
Speaker 5:I want us to all talk about what our experience was, because what what came obvious to me is like, when did this thing become an appendage? Like, when did this thing become something that I'm constantly attached to? And 91% of American adults own a smartphone. And 41% of adults say they are online almost constantly. So we're all addicted. We're all on it. Like Ibar and Tara said, we decided let's try and go without it. And what were some of your initial reactions? Like, let's go to night one.
Speaker 5:You put the phone away. What do you do? Ibar, what did you do?
Speaker 3:I signed off at 9.
Speaker 1:We signed off at 9 p.m.
Speaker 2:Well, my kids are miraculously asleep. That doesn't always happen by that time. And I was like, well, shit. And I have some stuff to ask Wendy. I was like, well, I can't call her. So I'm just going to like a psychopath go over there and just start banging on all of her windows, which I did. And I just started yelling her name. And lo and behold, she was not on her phone and just heard me and she let me in.
Speaker 5:And I was wandering aimlessly being like, what do I do? And then we were like, what do we think Tara's doing? Tara, we were like, do you think she remembered? So what was your first night off your phone?
Speaker 1:Um, honestly, when I was sitting there, it's odd when I, cause we, we didn't say that we didn't, couldn't do any screens. So, um, I was watching TV, but then I just made a bunch of Halloween projects. Not going to lie because there's something as we all know that scripts nowadays are, have to be like second screen approved, which means they want now that the world is how it is. People fucking watch TV, but they're also on their phones same time.
Speaker 3:Oh, for sure.
Speaker 4:And for me, I was like, well, wait, what am I going to do?
Speaker 1:So I started drawing on cardboard for fun. And then it eventually progressed to, To a Black Cat Curiosity box, which is a good time. And look at me now, still doing it. Like, honestly, I get packages. And then I now will... Because for my other job, I still have to record at home. And I watch TV on my computer. I'll still just draw on cardboard. And I'm like, this is great. So the one thing.
Speaker 4:that it was a little bit of hellish.
Speaker 1:I did find another way to keep myself busy.
Speaker 5:Your black cat curiosity box is so awesome. You have to go check it out on your Instagram at Tara Erickson.
Speaker 3:It's really cool.
Speaker 2:I love that you are like that you gained a new craft and I just broke new boundaries by like trying to break and enter my neighbor's residence.
Speaker 4:Her house to be like, what the hell are we going to do?
Speaker 3:What am I going to do?
Speaker 4:Books?
Speaker 2:Am I going to dust off an old crossword?
Speaker 3:Actually, I would, I would love that. I should have done that.
Speaker 4:You should have done that. I read a little bit.
Speaker 2:But honestly, and I know you said it wasn't as hard for you. I kind of thought for some reason it wouldn't be as hard for you. I mean, look, we did use our computers.
Speaker 4:For me or for Wendy?
Speaker 3:I thought Wendy and I were joking. We were like, she's definitely just not doing it.
Speaker 2:But then I was like, if she does do it, I feel like it's not going to be as hard for her.
Speaker 1:It wasn't because I'm very used to being alone. I think there's like I.
Speaker 4:Do this shit kind of anyway.
Speaker 1:And so it kind of was, I think, nicer for me because I was like, oh, this really makes me be like, what crafty thing did you want to do?
Speaker 4:Because, you know, me, it's like 17 projects going on.
Speaker 1:And so I had to sort of just sit down and be like, well, what can you do right now? Which was kind of nice to have the hours to go, well, and I reach, I will not lie, I did reach for the phone and I would glance at it and then go, oh no, because it's such a habit that I didn't feel for the first like two nights when I first would initially look at it to like look at the time and then be like, oh no, that's my phone.
Speaker 4:Get it away from here.
Speaker 2:It's funny that you say that because that was one of the things that I noticed right away was like the phantom limb, the phantom habit of just like you know, auto response grab for your phone. And I'm like, oh my God, this is, I think I made a reel about that. I was like, this is like a cigarette for a former cigarette addict. This is disgusting. Like just what were you doing with your hands before smartphones?
Speaker 5:I would try and do it where if I was standing in line, I'm going to stand in line and I'm not going to look at my phone. And it's so hard. Because everyone else is doing it.
Speaker 3:But it's like, what did we do before that? It wasn't that long ago. You actually like look at people. You're just doing what you're doing.
Speaker 5:I know, right?
Speaker 1:But then it becomes weird because no one's doing that, Ibar.
Speaker 4:It's really sick.
Speaker 5:It's so sick. When you look around, you see everybody so sucked into this little thing in our hands. It's so gross.
Speaker 2:It's full black mirror, like what you're talking about. Like it's a full black mirror episode. It really is.
Speaker 5:And the time that you waste the other night, one of the earlier nights, I was off my phone and I decided to reorganize my bathroom and clean and do all this stuff. Like all these like cleaning projects I've wanted to do, but I go to my phone, I realized I eat dinner and then I go into my room and then I just start scrolling. And so the night that I didn't have that, I was like, all right, I'm going to reorganize my bathroom. I'm going to clean. And I was like, oh my God, this is such a better use of my time. And I just, you get hypnotized. You get hypnotized. And it's so, these phones are so bad for us. But at the same time, it does bring me so much joy to scroll. I love doing a TikTok scroll before bed. I love doing it when I wake up.
Speaker 3:But I just do it.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I feel pretty gross pretty quickly into my scrolling. Like I feel like it feels like when you eat like fast food and you're like, I, I, I feel that way pretty quickly.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 4:I did.
Speaker 3:I felt like the mornings were not as hard for me.
Speaker 2:Um, because I get up every morning and I'm doing dishes and I'm making breakfast. I'm thinking about what the girls are going to wear to school, all the things that I need. And then they get up and then I'm tending to them and then we take them to school. So that's my, usually it's accompanied by a podcast and I could, or, you know, news or something like that. And I could have listened to it on my computer. We didn't, you know, we didn't have super stringent hard, fast rules about second screens. which I noticed as the week went on, I got more and more loose with.
Speaker 5:Well, and that was the other thing. I think we should try it again sometime and do no screens because I just found myself scrolling on the like Roku fucking cable that has every procedural, every like dateline. Like you can just flip, flip, flip for ADHD. I'm just like, this is just me scrolling TikTok, but I'm doing it with a bigger screen and a remote. Tara, I want to ask you this question. What were your hours? Because I know you're a bit of a night owl and you sleep in late. So what would you say the hours were that you kept?
Speaker 4:Well, normally it was like 8.30, 9 to 8.39.
Speaker 1:You didn't want to push it to 4 to 40.
Speaker 3:It was always 39.
Speaker 5:No, I'm saying 8.30 to 8.39-ish to 8.30 p.m.
Speaker 4:To 9 a.m.-ish. Oh, my God. E-Bar thought I was just.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I specifically chose 8.39 p.m.
Speaker 4:Every night. That's very funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't actually find it that difficult. I did those times because by that time, I was always home from work and those hours to me always led into, I'm not going to record anymore at home for my YouTube. I would be a shell of a person. So now I'm just going to watch TV and do crafts.
Speaker 5:Well, how about on Wednesday night at 1044 p.m. when I see that Tara Erickson commented on E-Bar Stand-Up's message?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 5:Somebody was online.
Speaker 2:At 1044 p.m.
Speaker 3:What do you have to say for yourself?
Speaker 4:What did I say?
Speaker 5:You were, no, you were just, you, you just commented, you just commented on a post and I noticed the time.
Speaker 4:Oh, oh, oh, oh. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what it was about.
Speaker 1:I totally forgot about that. I blew all the rules out of the water Wednesday night.
Speaker 4:It all went to shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I can't wait to.
Speaker 5:Hear how everyone cheated. I, and that's why like when I saw that you were on the phone like that late, well, I was fucking on the phone that late too. Like, so it's like calling you out.
Speaker 4:I'm calling me out.
Speaker 5:Like, cause I, that's why, but I screenshotted it and I'm like, but I am such a hypocrite.
Speaker 4:Because you were on the phone.
Speaker 5:Erica, I lied to your face like a fucking junkie the other night when we When we were sitting at the kitchen table and we did the run-up show and then it was like 8.45, you're like, so what are you going to do? And I was like, oh, I'm going to call Steve and then I'm going to go offline at nine. And you were like, yeah, me too. The whole fucking time I knew I was lying because I was like, no, I'm not. There's a lot that happened in court that day. And I fucking went and I lied in bed and I scrolled until after midnight catching up on my Clancy trial and all my other things.
Speaker 5:I have a major problem. I don't know what to do. And then after that, it was all gone. It was all gone. I'm a little bit in the morning. But when I wake up at 6 a.m., I start thinking things and having questions and I want to look shit up. I'll be like, oh, I wonder about blah, blah, blah. And I'll be like, oh, look at that up. And I want to do that at 6 a.m.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 2:The lawyer has entered the building. Everyone who didn't see our video on Instagram, when I proposed this idea to Wendy, her first response without hesitation was, but I'm in trial.
Speaker 3:I just want to be clear. She's not a lawyer.
Speaker 2:She has been following the Clancy trial.
Speaker 3:So when she says, and.
Speaker 4:She very panically said, I.
Speaker 3:Can't, I can't do that. I'm literally on a trial.
Speaker 2:And it's like, She's not, guys, she's not in a courthouse. She's not even always like following like the news coverage or the feed of the court. It could be influencers talking about the latest news. She literally was like, as if she was a first responder saying like, yeah, but I've got to shift.
Speaker 3:I have to have my phone on.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:And I gave it my all the first couple nights. But then when shit started happening midweek, I was like, I'm not going to be able to sustain it. But then I was instantly, I'm disgusted with myself because those two days when I did follow the rules, I felt better.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:I did feel a little better. I felt a little lighter. I felt productive because I got some stuff done around the house. I did some furniture flipping stuff. Like I was doing stuff. And it felt good to be off the screens, but it's so scary how quickly you get sucked back into it. And I really want to try and work hard to put those parameters up because it will make me feel better.
Speaker 1:So did it make you guys feel like less enraged, less anxious, less sad?
Speaker 5:I did have an overall like kind of just like, I just felt at ease. And I think when I was like cleaning the bathroom, I got such a dopamine hit, like organizing everything. and having everything. And I was like, oh, this is great. It's such a better use of my time. If you could just give yourself 20 minutes and then go get off your screen.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean, I feel like that's with any drug, right?
Speaker 2:That's always what the landslide is, is that it's like, okay, you can have this if you can have one or two of whatever it is. But then that's often where people- you know, they slip and slide into seven, eight into a bender. In which case for you, that bender was the Clancy trial.
Speaker 1:For Ibar and Wendy, did you, do you guys feel like you had any moments of clarity during it?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Like this is fucked up. I have a horrible addiction. This is eating my brain and I need to fucking get this under control.
Speaker 4:Yeah. What about you, Ibar?
Speaker 2:I definitely benefited from being off my phone at night.
Speaker 3:We're watching Six Feet Under for the first time.
Speaker 2:I know. It's like, where the fuck have we been? And so I just got to watch the show. And I was doing nothing else but watching the show, which I love. But then I wasn't doing anything else, really. So I was getting better sleep. I was going to bed a little bit earlier. In the mornings when I'm doing stuff, this is the other side of it for me. Not having anything else can also be a slippery slope for me mentally. My mind can go like really fast into a negative place of just like ruminating and thinking about things and overanalyzing and replaying. And so having things like a podcast while I'm doing something as rote as like washing dishes can actually be really helpful for me to get out of my head. So I do think like many, you know, with many things that can be, that have the ability to be toxic or addictive, there is a function for them. Like there is a function for social media. There's a function for phones that can be for good. It's just, we so rarely use them that way, right?
Speaker 4:Do you guys feel like you would do it again?
Speaker 5:I would certainly try. And I really do want to consciously- I want to consciously try and put limits on it, but oof, I went off the rails.
Speaker 2:The other thing I found that I like about doing this exercise is it also makes you.
Speaker 3:Be a little bit more resourceful and prioritize. Oh shit, I got to call.
Speaker 2:Do you have to call that person at that time? Or if you do need to get a hold of someone, you have to find another way to do it. You have to like ask someone else like, Hey, can, do you mind calling this person? Or maybe you have to email them and say, can we talk in the morning? Um, or like, I know for me, a big thing when you have kids and, uh, your co-parenting, you never, you never get your time is never just your time. Like you always have to be accountable. So, um, there was one night I was coming home from somewhere and And I was like, well, I told him I'm going off my phone. I'll be home soon. I can't fucking dilly dally.
Speaker 2:So like three hours later, he's got the police on the line saying, well, she said she's going to be home soon and I can't reach her. So it also forced me to set some more, you know, regimen to my schedule and things that I was doing.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay. I said, I'm coming home. I got to come home.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That part was interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Cause you like, to go rogue.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Social media scrolling.
Speaker 2:I definitely do it, but I, I get really like sick and grossed out by it pretty quickly. I'm not saying I don't do it. I definitely do it, but I can't like, if I'm doing that every night, like you're, I might be like admitted somewhere. Yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1:I will give one tip to everybody listening that I want us to tell us like, what's the hardest part about it. And then we'll tell you guys what's coming up for season two. But I changed my algo algorithm on the socials on Insta. And, and honestly, I have found like what, so that when I'm on there and, It sucks because I don't see any of my friends. But what does pop up is a lot of mini Highland cows, DIY stuff, and Halloween stuff.
Speaker 4:Like Halloween crafts.
Speaker 1:Like, you know, people making a giant pumpkin, which then I decided to do.
Speaker 3:Which is, my people is you. That's you. Yeah, it's me.
Speaker 4:It's me. It's me. You know.
Speaker 1:And I actually find that that has made me a little more like joyful, but it doesn't mean that I'm still not addicted to it. It just means like I'm utilizing it more as like a tool for like joy instead of, which I had before, which I've talked to you guys about, of like, oh, there.
Speaker 4:Can sometimes be an envious version.
Speaker 3:Compare and despair. It's compare and despair.
Speaker 1:Always.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's like the epitome of that.
Speaker 1:And that.
Speaker 4:be hard, you know?
Speaker 1:And, and I think once I've sort of changed to go, okay, let's not try to focus on that. Let's just focus on the other things that I'm happy about and can like maybe give back to and won't compare that I'm not a DIY person on online.
Speaker 4:I'm just doing it for fun. Um, and that, that's been, that's been cool. But what did you think was like the hardest part about it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for me, the hardest part was actually not going on social. It was like, oh, shit, I really could have I need I kind of need to call that person. But again, if if it was really if it was a urgent priority, I would have called them in the hours before earlier.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then also the other hard part is I can't remember anything anymore. So I'd be like, oh, shit, it's nine. I guess I'm going nine to nine because I had been on my phone.
Speaker 4:What about you, Wendy?
Speaker 5:I think it was the early morning hours. I don't really want to get up and get out of bed yet, but I'm also not falling back to sleep. And I just realized what a crutch that is in those hours. So I really want to try and break that. And I think the other thing that was kind of funny is like you'd go off and the next morning you'd look and you'd be like, I'm going to have, oh my God, I'm going to have so many notifications.
Speaker 4:I'm going to have so many, oh my God.
Speaker 5:And then you go and you look and you're like, Oh, so you have three. And you're like, I'm fine. No one's trying to get a hold of me.
Speaker 3:It's fine.
Speaker 5:Like you can disconnect for 12 hours and it's okay. But we've just become such an immediate society that it's really interesting to see how it's all changed. And I just know it's going to be better for me to peel it back. And I'm going to try. Because I realized what it showed me is how actually fucking addicted I am.
Speaker 1:It's almost like our entire personalities are notifications. Which is sad, but that's kind of the world we live in, right? That dopamine hit.
Speaker 3:What about you? What was the hardest thing for you?
Speaker 1:Honestly, I really enjoyed it. I think the hardest thing for me is that if I were to see... a message from somebody that if I put my phone to plug it in, it was so hard for me to not pick up message back right away or check it. That would annoy the fuck out of me. Cause I'm very much the person that if you look at my phone, the emails are at zero, the texts are at zero. Like I have to get rid of the red. And I had some red there, but not a lot.
Speaker 4:It's funny.
Speaker 1:It's the same when you wake up and you're thinking like, oh, maybe I missed a bunch of texts. And I never really did. It'd be like one or two and they would never be a big deal. So, yeah, I think it was that. It was just seeing things and not being able to get back, but Whatever. It's kind of better for us, I think. I mean, I think overall, we kind of learn, like, oh, you can find things to do and have maybe a little more peace when you're not as attached to your phone. So much so, like, throughout all hours of the night. Because we treat our free time with, like, scrolling.
Speaker 5:Honestly.
Speaker 3:Like, I did. I think there's also.
Speaker 2:I've seen ads for this, so I don't know. I'd have to look up the data, but I think there's also something to everyone's backs and necks and posture from being on their phone so much. I think chiropractors and I don't know who are the back doctors, they get a lot of people whose curvature in their neck is fucked from being like this all the time.
Speaker 4:That sucks. Phone neck.
Speaker 3:Phone neck.
Speaker 4:Like, I don't want to have faux neck.
Speaker 3:No one wants to.
Speaker 4:No one wants to. I don't want to have faux neck.
Speaker 3:It's like, well, it's the witch from Snow White, right? No one wants to be the witch from Snow White.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:Well, it looks like we're going to, I think we're going to close it out there.
Speaker 1:And we got to tell him, coming up this season, we're going to be doing things like maybe take a tap class. What I really want to do is take Wendy to Disneyland because she does not want to go and hates the most magical place on earth. Um, we might meditate for a week, uh, eliminate, I'm sorry, out of our dialogue, a bunch of stuff, but we would love it. If you guys send us suggestions, you can email us rage at the rage pod.com. Um, or just like DM us on Instagram and let us know what you think that we should do and let us know how you feel about this. No phone thing. And if you're going to try it, let us know, you know, let us know.
Speaker 2:If you cheat and lie to the face of one of your supposed friends.
Speaker 5:And business partners to her.
Speaker 3:And business partners.
Speaker 4:I knew.
Speaker 3:I fucking knew, dude. I fucking knew.
Speaker 2:I was like, her reaction, she's not, she's like, oh, that's adorable.
Speaker 1:And this bitch tries to throw me under the fucking rug by going, oh, but what about Wednesday at 1045?
Speaker 4:Explain that.
Speaker 2:And then.
Speaker 4:I'm in my cross-examination era.
Speaker 1:It's like I lied straight to your face and I was online until midnight.
Speaker 4:I'm like, oh my God.
Speaker 2:Right? It wasn't even like I lied and I was like on for 45 minutes later.
Speaker 3:I need help.
Speaker 1:And my 1-10-44 comment was a nice comment about Ibar's stand-up.
Speaker 2:Meanwhile, you guys, wait before we close out. The second day, I got up. And in the morning when Ben got up and he was on his phone, I immediately got so self-righteous.
Speaker 3:I was like, wow, on your phone right away. Couldn't wait. Could we? And it's like, I was that person 48 hours ago.
Speaker 4:And not today.
Speaker 3:And not today. And now I'm on my high horse. Like I'm America's role model right now.
Speaker 4:We literally gave it a week and then threw it in the trash.
Speaker 5:I made it to Tuesday, Wednesday.
Speaker 4:That's about it.
Speaker 1:Don't we know it tried to really yell at me about Wednesday at 1044. You know, I don't know if I can, I can forgive it.
Speaker 4:I don't know if I'll ever forget it though.
Speaker 2:A misunderstood woman goes on trial. Say goodbye to Wendy for forever.
Speaker 4:Forever. Well, we love you guys. Thanks for joining the Rage Pod. And yeah, leave your comments. Leave a like.
Speaker 1:Make sure you're subscribed on YouTube. Make sure you are liking and following. It helps us with our algorithm. We took a little summer break, but now we're back on it. We're diving back in and we would love your support. And yeah, I think that's it. Well, we'll see you guys later.
Speaker 3:It's good to be back.
Speaker 2:Bye.
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Miscommunication is basically a personality trait at this point. People say they want honest communication, but do they really? This episode is a full rant on bad communication, wild assumptions, and how people will literally ruin a relationship instead of asking one clear question. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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S1 · E29 · 1 Apr 2026 · 44 min
Relationship Rage
How do we make romantic relationships work? Does it matter if they snore? (Yes). Does it matter if your cat hates them? (Also, yes.) We get into the nuance of committed relationships and what works for us and what doesn't, what we can live with and what we can't and how Tara might marry you, but she will never, under any circumstance, live with you. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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