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Season 3, Episode 120 · Houshivar Podcast پادکست هشیوار

چرا می‌جنگیم؟ تحلیل باستان‌شناختی وتکاملی جنگ و صلح درتاریخ | گفتگو با دکتر جواد حسین‌زاده-بخش اول

9 Aug 2026 · 1 hr 14 min

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آیا انسان ذاتاً فرشته است یا هیولا؟ چرا با وجود تمام پیشرفت‌های اخلاقی و فرهنگی، هنوز سایه شوم خشونت و جنگ بر سر جوامع بشری سنگینی می‌کند؟ آیا خشونت یک انحراف اخلاقی است یا یک سازوکار زیستیِ برنامه‌ریزی‌شده که در طول میلیون‌ها سال انتخاب طبیعی به بقای نیاکان ما کمک کرده است؟ در بخش اول این سری گفتگوها از پادکست هشیوار، به میزبانی مهدی شفا، با *دکتر جواد حسین‌زاده* (باستان‌شناس، پژوهشگر و مترجم) به کاوش در ریشه‌های فرگشتی و باستان‌شناختی خشونت، جنگ و صلح می‌پردازیم. ما با تحلیل شواهد دیرین‌ان...

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SPEAKER_03:Man be may not distanating the chickenatvana.

SPEAKER_00:As did go ahead and see how far gas tea is on Nazotan Fresh Tast, Banazot and Hyula. Salomotur had not shived. Elma Ruse Hosukasodi being so lot, Nador. As did goes on Fargashti, and son Nazotan Ferris and Azotan Hayula. Momasul million hosol, Takomul Hasty. Baroyan de Kham Tabon Oye, Ham Corrido Darmo Pavarish to the Bahamsarfiate Kushunato. Neokonemo Barry Baro Baharduni Ozashtan. Bedun Ham Kori Morogatas Kudakon, Taksimerazo, and Toledonesh, Shekor Guruhi was in the Gyesh Temoi, Ishkudumken Nabut.

SPEAKER_00:Amo Bedun Rebatan Das receive Manobe de Foas Kalamro, but he was atasguru to Shor Mishut. Bahamindal Marze and son, Majmuya's Vijegi Hoyazohiramutazotro Darchodesh, Joy Dam Deliva Parhoshkari, Nodustiva Kuthohi, Ham Koriva Regobat. Boston Shannasian Banazatas Pi Moshobero Emida. Da Bahim Havatoi Boston is abohidias Hushuna Dargiri, Bato Kushto or Hoyjamidemishe. Amu Dakanorish Abohidicustardias Hamcori, Tejorat, Urohibata's Bimoron, Basolmandon, Daphne Oiniem or the Gon, Bashekiri Shabakoy Pichid Moiiham Wujutor, Tori Hebashata and Hot Horikang Nis, Toriha Ham Kori Ham has.

SPEAKER_00:Should Moham Tan Darsa Takomolim Bosheki Jango soul, hardu, bachia zarfia toy and sonihasta. Porsha Asli in Nis Kane Son Zotan Hube Yobat. Balke ine Kisharoiti Boyes Bisheka Zarfiat Ho by the Gary Labekon. Shared Arbachi Sharay Jabon besante ham cori pish miran, besante mod was soul harikat meconant, but shareoti dig besante doshmanni, jank. Em shall mi chema Dariche Boson Sea, Takomol and Sonshan Sivazi Shannon Sea Bane Pulse Shaw Caminigo. Shabohe Dabore Kuzashte Mo Chimigan, Hushunat by Jang, As Kujomadan, Soul Hattoch Girlfte.

SPEAKER_00:But Moontrasame, Kusashte Takomulemo and Sonho, Sha Dasi Baroyande Bashard. Bisor Hosh Holland came shadowed to Java Hosenzo de Boston Chanous, Pajwish Karva, Mutaja Maslam, or says of the Bisor Hoshumad.

SPEAKER_05:Rudarshomo, General Aziz, Manam, Foshwachdan, Didafemate Shomova, Kotabine, Hube Podcaster, Hushivoras. Amo Hushunat Money Mitunim Hushunatrod, ye false after meet some make or begin, but begin Albatrin Nazarefitsufobish, Amo Beto Gitar, Kushuna Natunazun should Darbuye Pesandorone Olitar, Bahato, Pesandorone, Kirmuchostiam Babini. Bain Manoke Hushunatiani Raftor Barnomerzi Shade Baroye Osibe Voge Jesni Yoshni B Fardi Guruhi Diga. Ked Azin Manzar, Benazar Champans Hodoran, Special Zodivuji, Benazar Hato Dolphin Hodoran Fahopalopahum Bon Shekor, Gahibonzot, Solitari Zeniga Angali Sobazunam Gozosh, Amodar Basis Hibon of the Pichide Pichide, Benazar Mike, Obarno Mirzi, Bichahate has Nabajate Fourtand Shekharka, and we should be at the shop.

SPEAKER_05:Darkenor Hamdi Busemutarokem Zemigibukonand Bisatva Levilias, Bisatva Levelias, Pichiba Takasos Azid Peresand, Kiguruhias Mardomyik Jome, Bitabonan, Takasosi, B umure, Mortabet po Nezomigariba Hushunati and Hushunatikis Osmandish, Guruas, Oda Mo Bekorya Fusha, Pshishas in Mafume Jango Nimitin Bushushim, Dargiridori, Davohoyo Hamalot, Guruhiba Gabilei Dori Amo, Shishas Pido, Nuhostin Marokese, Jamiyati, Shomo, Sozmondi Jangadori, Hamalotro Dori, Hato Genusidori, Nast Kushiram Doryo, Farmasudevokandar, Benazar Hato Darm Shampozo Amdi Demish, Amo Inke, Yeguruhi, Beturu Dori, Darfekre, Barno, Darfek Barno Midziba Ejrova Tahievo Faroham Kiardane Lavozemote Hushunat Beguruhi digat Hushunat Hushunati yek polities politeme mustag.

SPEAKER_05:So as Jang Daran Bin Mano, Jiang Natan Hodar Hamaj Aomianson Dimishe, but it are guru hosses Yahomesoni Didemishamo Hushunat, Tarmanar Hamijaomiansoni, but besides Mujer and Sonim Didem.

SPEAKER_00:Boston Siva Hato and Son Shannon Siva Tabor Shannon Sea Chinese, Cadim Tari Shavo Head, Hushunat, Bayo, a lag between Jangum between the game solibiz and eat, that bene is on Taboron, became that Java Meshak or Girdova and Friday, some satisfaction, Sadopangers on the Pish, or your Shabo Hidias, Hushunat, Fa Jang Vujutari, or yet is a modern he has in Jang.

SPEAKER_05:Shavoid Mustarim, any modar post sanction and siba madoric and sanction of tiva de sanction of tea, baby nimke o C B Reside K Baruya Scareto or Sukanoye Bosani, which has uh migarde Dharmandary Kubifara, uh Kubifaro Besh and I'll Tanzania, Kyunjo, Benazar, Saregosro, or Sangib Zarba Zatanin, Hopke Malekonim medium sole pishitar, Momoabate, Simodellus Husso the Remke Spaniel Besalo, Shahemarufique, Sono Hyderberg, Skeletor, Son Hodelberg, Session Joykiasun Skeletor, O Sor Zarbi Mustarim Noi, Pishani, Dutof, Dorekola, some boys, let's margish any darkness under toolish or half to adboche, or sorrehanthoshpa from us.

SPEAKER_05:But another Zamoni Mita von him, Hordanegus on Bahamu Horida and Sonobon and Matlachimusarim Danazar begin, kehumu Godubine, Beselo and Soni Dar Zarfegazo Yodar Matfu and Sonicary Pedoshi Dal Daswaken Sonicari Pedoshe. They ras un nimi tuning begimchun and voy shivo ye par hordemujas would you rekish colan oinas and a hadak hordan gushed, mufasarmanish name. Pas in Dudas Shabemusarim, Shavohedi Mustarim Faro Vontaran Bari Hopel Bastar. As you interim Kinafarad Barry and Son Baki Bari Tarwan Muzote Buzurgi Pes Sondoras and Behormide Based Durichensi your sexual dimorphism ash.

SPEAKER_05:Durichti Gensi Pemizone Tafovute Shekli Vazni Vari Bane Narva Modi Gunija Durichy Jensi Karifhi Sodider Bahamaminumiduna. Babenazarmiot Harchagatke Bene Bene Gunoho Bene Jensen Narva Jensen Modi Gunozandarenson. Mr. Champonsinar Champazimote, Silenar Filemotte, Shirenar Shirmote, Hurusva Mur, Harchagatje in Durichit Hafovodish Bisharboche, Nishonda Handy Regobate, Yek Darune Yekens and Bane Hurusobarsare, Murho, Yo Bane Murobasar Huxos, Operinati.

SPEAKER_05:Holo Harchagatje in Vijigi in Sobechelasigani Hambasegi Bukovan Musbate. Harchegat Regobate Bane Narrobasare Modoho, your accesh Pisterboche, Rikovaznokio Fiba Hato and the Raftore, Narhodnes Modo Modo Neswad Nargo, Musefovich. Moyek big escalid hat keshi drime. Benazar Harchakatke Narhoy se durus Tari Doran Neswatemodune Darb Darun Narho Regobat Shari Tarp Bary Mesol had the Karoni by Froti in Tafovutbine Shir Nare Daryo Iva Mod Dash. Y Shir Nare Shiremo de Dari Howli Panjak Vishder.

SPEAKER_05:Bar he shiredari tun bazna Badori Dan Donho Nishiya Sankunza sans Bessel uh Tulish Vikas Hunin Karim Govato Yar uh Benin Narho Barcelod Faster Juve Kiri Bane Hamid na Shiroinar Darius Cherokee Shirho in Al Dari Barcos and Haram Dorosan, Yeshi Narito, some Pangioto Modaro, Barib in his randarkoister ban code narhoy to your narcoshan, nimituna yo no simnas andamunmodas a sillo Shandig. In Vighi. Asun Taraf, Masaran Shomo and Son Dari K and Son Russi Durti Genesis, Mizana Dorti Jensich Havoli Punzadas in Yik and Solenar Mar, Tolomottavaset, Punzadas, Mod did Doroshara Joseph Burstarico.

SPEAKER_05:Kibene Shumid Hop uh Nebishina Robot and Russian Terra. But if Bakti Barnier, whom hoya valley, have all the bistars at the new Humoric Tues, Mahabilist, Bistars are the Osolus and Barn Yarum Havoli Bistri. Or solidus head now, how these cedars are the champions cedars. Vigio de Gary Boyshotke, Nar Hobitundo, the Assassin's Dark Mikadi Cam Shadow Hader Camp Tarum shit. Inchanto, Husaro Michael, Shavoedi, Huzure Raftori, Hashane Benefardi, Darneva Tabore and Sonda.

SPEAKER_00:Yona, in your janky camoala misdosimic, bananiziconan, Baham Wolfma artistoshtebosan, uh as more hobbies or hobbies, Bahonjo Bigiran, or the Midgard Bocoshan. In that Dore Hoss is who carde yo shall make at the Bahamas, Masale Hushuna Midlanka Binan Motabank Ben, who should not be Mansroman Jang in Jang because the Boston Michel Bordaga, Masalich.

SPEAKER_05:Amos Yez Zamoni omesish Dor y nahod Rasmi Michabat, but Solzman de Mishab. Mishabat Chim shot visorato music farbare, madress, but all of a crubana should say Rap the Robert been a Hushunat. Jang Hagiban Hamini, Hushuna Guru Jang. Hushuna de Guru Judesh, Amo yik joy saws Mondehim shitabasuti ygnahoodi, unjoyamishajang. Pasmoin tarifra girdeshivashim Agriban mo shabohide mustagimbare mustagim jangrotopisha' peidoyeshe shahoya valier etemolanateguruhi barhalov ruso yhovachodusuke domikadan dar jabo mi pishokishovazi Vujutnadeshte, Hushunati guruye temolan, teshte.

SPEAKER_05:Shabode musarimesh, ye chantomatasan tutoshtu ofoske khedi hobosan shansorush korkyardan, yeki yek muhabatiya sishke in phanume mortemilazun lor hasekke korkyarde uhensu kedi bajsi orgentinye Brazilie, tuye muhabate notruk in muhabateye haboli dahes or sole, dar ke darkenio stesh, in muhabate azesh biso hafto escelitasumadi, udugohe a valia su shikoshigar the varandas and darkenio, hashtozano shishto kudako dutomarte bolehru kushtanunjo. Yenishab Nishumidikina darasar Hushunat, shikasigijunjume, shikasiidas, uh, shikasi yedan theho, kushti shota.

SPEAKER_05:Hamle guruhi be uhuri digar, and kushunate guruhi, and paidi nisye muta alepat bejabo me ye keshovarzi yegjonish uh boshe barkalike rusu mudebuke keshovarzi and son horu asun nature of estate, albazi yet habiye najib on the jobat uh miz kuza uh uh mutabal here in turinis muavatitasish benome uh jibel saobeb Darmanzebein uh mesba sudan kusabe. Dar unjoham was uh Haboli se choraz or selectori kusari muhabatiki was sans dar in Jo Mo Haboli Panjo to Panjo Nufta skeletuye Gurisonishun Dafkaraban Jalish Kosh Gabande to Gurissan Das Kaban Siuchartoshun to Badanishun Osore Zarbevatro Modi Mishika Albate Bazia Zarba, who should Baza Zarba Mujerb Mark Shadan Bosan Sun Shanson Mitu and Zarbaik in Mujerb Mark Mishanro Tashis Banchu Zarwike, Mujerbe Marg Mshan, Lazamoniket, Ossohanus and the Farts and the Hashagabusko de Bosch, Ossomb Seth's Zobierbishan Kizu.

SPEAKER_05:But Iskelet Bemire, Far Bemir, Eskeletish Bemune, but are to the Zamon, Holo Sangi beautifully of the heart that lady, Bishman, uh tephonomic agent. Avumele Pasas Marg Boise Shikasius Hombush, Mutakashishmir. In an issue, Basia Zarbo, Hangom Hayot should Basi Boise, Kushani should Boise more than should have. Raymond Kelly, Javome bedunjang the hospital, Jangobi yesterday for star jungle should Lawrence Kelly, King Heli Maru, ketobish Jangi Jang Jangon.

SPEAKER_05:War before civilization, there in your name references on Josephine Javomishaban, Amobazar Nispatzpe Javomikishobaza Avalier, Yimis on Cam Tar. Jang Chironabu Avalikosh and Twan Yik Electra. Avalinke Javome Shikor Shigiravande to Pishas Dore no Sangi, this your parokan debutan. Son as a monan kulle jamete Jahantokablas Dore Kishavarzi, Chizahaboli Damaninafarbu de Bosh. Session Urosi, and Amalarinke Buruhoye, Shikorsigavarande, Mumosa Hamgarabi Galam Rubishumba Bahamia Babina, canate for me of the dead.

SPEAKER_05:I gotta Darjohoi in yik uh yik yik facte yik ulgube fact name ulguye ecologie. Had you ke etemora manobe mutemarkez boche chain son chiguru shikarchande or chain son e kelma badat was im kesha barzava atujaw me rusi on ho hu shunate bishari baroye negadoriaz man bae so bete mutemarkezo hurok boshamnetboshe, ne shun mi dan, tod dar bumhoike manba harokanda sessha da sa hamegon hastesh. Ketobe donoye uh don donoze jar doimun drage unfasliabar shunde boshit, unjo mikik motu ulguder weit.

SPEAKER_05:Hashenish or chigirovarande dar naz de Javomye Gineye no junushargosio ki manobe drach the lay mehli motorakima unjo, motomarkisamakshit, ki bishi that unjo in afrod, hatuk dan nabad there sana pishas nava no that staff as galam rushim you not after. Cho ye bera guribagale hat non kushim. As a sapar, musovivo kut kushie. A motar ofigo, kimanovi parakan da stan, masan kunghoye son, nispat unho, nispat the unho, uh rafter musolemat juye tiger and heida gari baby and to kalam ruchun, uh rafter n canho.

SPEAKER_05:In ishumi ki pas yik, boom sheno siya rafter ijo vujut. A selefendique hamin kam budane tarakume jamiat ba andos e jamiyat va parakandi ishun ba no sisteme my shel shun ki shekovan yiboshe boismishike inja bomasan tahasos spazi wujjudna le shteboshe. Kip at chuntavone tamine manobe gazi ba guruike mutakasan jang jibosha, mesle nightho yo shwali, masandura umboso, yo um yo yo un besamuri hoye masalan jopon.

SPEAKER_00:Oh, kishonbuye man by the shabinot in your taziuk nasat emkonish iri tahasosiben wone jangari, baso putushun dajome, shikosy the van de would nehme hot benazar, who should not e would you dare shabwe should you de mother should you do the baby dire boss and shensiba margum shenasi ammo jan benazar ma lule etseforti eke hasas e the shikishavarzi dar jawome se ruja mamnun, uhalop Alakotaramagi Beshebadan, Imotov as Keshawar Zwe Bado, chon manazamiot, alokeras, masalekishava zibasamolikia, to zieservatva ulguhoi deke wujudeshte, injangoteva, to alona me ke nahi wujtere, very ka vlazun hop uh uh dar also shiva and son de son shano se shavoide's ham coriam would you dare be and sonimorogabata salmandon, ham bastigi, hammu to mogadam share cardam, benazamin to cannot ham Budan days daughter mob alonam hastan bahaul in Junis case on Hamijao Jang Boshan, Hushunat Boshan, Afrodia Sangam Kori Kam Basan, Pisha Moyansonho, Hoselamin Ham Koreo Hambastigi Mibude, but Joikemal, Alas, and Mialan has the canor hushunat, shabbo hit the boss on a size such and a sew to my jaboma valid over a shrukkoni, the winning uh that canori hushunakidoshand, check at hand bam comakardan, shown a share cardanna or de Daphne Mordegon had to do on their tall ham shadow should Bahatoun or in Hoy Doshtan Holo, the Murder Shame as a Hibamablan to podcast so bad cardi, parmi gadabo massail, in up just rat which any go card, but I mean to cheese a butterfly that can or I dodomo Buddha Hamia alonam Darmochutter.

SPEAKER_00:So much to Nigama, and I'm not sure what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05:Nagor Nishim Budim na Jangal Nishim Budimishar Sahrozi Budim. Any amuzodegoniti mo ke champons oboshan badbono oboshan uno jangalziasan mo asanas jangal umadimbirun, ye jangal as galamro has neshas, daras unjuribud, galamrun nyokonemo, mobe shek shuri. Basan, bagoye nson don'voni gune, biker rafter ham koronash. Tamo me vijigioye cheriftori ifiraftorye en son, nishondi inasishke, en son mujudia seske, baroye, darke raftor, digari, but tanzime raftori kutishbo digari sochtush mador kysihoye asabie jjadidi marzun ties semedun sodiguzeshte nahodhova sosmondi hoyev ishtemo ifarangisio siemo teye dominun sodiguzeshte, bate salezor sode guzhte, batechan has or sodi guzeshte, hamiye inho, nishun midike, in mujud muju di aseshke, bohamko riham no echodesh mitabonat nios oychodeshro as habiat barovarde boconat, and son muju di echtemo is bein mano kamonik besiras muju the yoam echtemoi hasukarinishoni echtemoi budani and son zabon shabon korkarishinik that judas hamikorgari fari killer asitani korkerishile ishrozo donislo as ja on a pilo mut.

SPEAKER_05:Keto anetajunikadamas team mega ambre Ramada bosne jod, I don't shame was an chopshoot, balifu p shruta conle for them gamonemizaram Bakeran canoe that telegram boskar, Benome Jome dar pisha sorik host go far hangenson. Unjo in megarik jomishad asked, as on shignich, the who be to zimke uh basim co evolution ham fargashi of fargash the hamro sto ye zhenhoba kolba de mo the hamrofter farang yes of refarangia mo more in some care as jumle bachhoya daswe asabiemo prefrontal look asceptionba rabashansi ta comoli rabashansifar geshi ke baroye chhondanikas bari halemo ammoho bary chondane ni yatetigaron uh baroye uh bishtro guzoshtane donestohoyemo halemo odelote pichidike darmuasesh Bebatigitye dominun soli guzashte, oberahnitar shudim, gadimbolantar shude, borik tarshudim, kam tarshim, ammo, buzurktarin va shokhes tarin viygi kedar guneye gensu humoho vadar gunye and son, darti dominusola akir kibesh and feshar and hobi rushude, daswe asabi mo jolivinjaski da daswe asabimo, sam bino gavina should.

SPEAKER_05:Hato buyoye mozaif should and umbakshia daswe asabimo kibe buy rapto and zaifar should ammo uh nananen yet halemoam moho uh uh babanjul vijigio shenoftiemo hasan, das umbakshia daswe asabi ki in vigy shenhoti baram ye. Hato, nkij jalivishomvian, mo nisvat sulbi be inabi moam, chisho de cam tajani, bakshia cheshmemo kuchisho de champanson nimetan bo cheshmam yli alamatwila. That's again sonaberati bo cheshmand yet alamatwe. No nation the handi aseshke ham cori call but uh as a rafter sh as a rafter shizhennessei.

SPEAKER_05:As as a rebo sonshennasi Ikas Muhim Tarin Shabo Hede um uh hamkori Udugohoye uh Udugohoye Shikorchigelandoye uh durnaponis and yas. As um biggirit kidar Udovoy Gorge Mo Tam Koshoder Shanto uh at one Homo or Humor Tus Muhapilice Erigosere Kihilika Miasa, Babad Kimioit Yamikas Muhim Tarin Shabodesh, Na and the Tolush More, Nuhegorish and the Toledomander Kudaki, Zarbe Horde, Yo Bahl, uh Beturiologic Nimidunin, Santorossa Badanish, Rush the Kofi Nadush.

SPEAKER_05:Amain Odamto How a liter Panzer is in the Yikardi, but in Bitarid Nimi tuneste Fagat Barpoy Hodish Zending should be chakna, Hatman and the Tolochonovoch, Chikoran, Azash Hemoyatni, Raftor Hemoykas Honovo Daro, Shu Mibina Fiamke Bachesh or Hemoyat Mikolata, Mimizo Rimikone, Champazar Mikor Mikolan, Amoinke, Yik, Uzbe Maalirobish, Bresidibucor in Chanda His and the Gibkonet, Tatlibandar and Son of the South. Amo Bari Muamohoye Pichietar Ke Guruya Shampozo, but guruyas bachoye in son bani call me quan, bachoy and shomozo as yet la satsi boloca pichidunim ter halbucan.

SPEAKER_05:Shouldn't don't show. Amo Bachoye and son Bohamkori Hamuamoy Pichid Halbon. Nishunike Hamkori Asose and Son Budana Kosin Pitari. Ohlo, Dar Darunin Hamkorimo, Raftori, Benome, Kushunat Miguini, K Bada Badamijanka Big Mish, the in Kicherov Seshke, Faro and Fitzupon, as of Shanson, Rafter Shanson and San Shambhushan Sambosari.

SPEAKER_00:Saro Turus Matish Mikoim Basmava de Modam or the Risha also Badman conim, but Chon Bas uh Johari Joliva Mohemi Mirise Chon Damord Farheim or Musishova Dam or the Masalin Nurture versus nature, your untabiat, amorobel, uh, or Miguelva, Angle Obishan Ochim Shano, uh Josephidin Dajala Sebastian Bistavishi Participation. I do a bargain jang, mominink that comoli fargash, ma'am after Hobach, the Forty Herz Shank, Bari Bagoy and Son, to hard Gune feet Pudan.

SPEAKER_00:Bahol in Zarf at the Kushunatan, Benahviar and Son, Herpshood, Moalon do such the Washiman Zahlo, you know, uh Mobaj Nami doing Taban, Val, Vujuda Rebamda, Dorobarabun, Mibiniwa, Jangam Gahankeshvaramunda Greesh with the Bahol, Name, Asai Masoelek, Vujut the Riva at Partarakna Shod. Well, did the Shenasier Takomoli or Bosanosia mission in the Afriat Hebs Shotahan, Alon Gishad, un Odratemondigo Shalom, I Gaham Korikum shall be star between a dominion by Sharkuma Coin Tangi behind Baham Bajangas the audio to examine.

SPEAKER_00:Oyo, you know, master be shallow share the far hangish the moy, should get our own fisher and the hobbit habi, some saddle the peach, are not the mobile, meeting alumitium of asking me, I'm a tight as own our Mel Mohiti Bonahik, I joded Mogar or Migriftang, are namigri. Oh, but but it helps show the ham ching, Hushunalva Jang, Benazarmiot Hanus, would you do Michael and as a Hakomuliva at a boss social and topino the gathers.

SPEAKER_05:Okay, Mike Hushunatro Vishbu Unwon yik se fathi negognak on him. Hushunat yik rafter zistiasishagar farogirhast hat man elat vargashideshatman kumakiarde Vatara, inka Hatman Darguesh Kumakiarde Bihotere Shara Yeti Budik Vujuteshde. Agar Share Abbas Bishabad, Echtemon Corey Shazmid. Among Judere, Ineke, Ohio Bemahta Share, Ulubuhoya Raftori Chan Dahesor, Chan Hazard, Abbas, Raftor, Islam and Yo should not own this boff to Basari Buddha but your afrodias harmike who should not owe Mr.

SPEAKER_05:Raftor carde and gen hoshun. Mwa faktab nas le bag muntag. So chan bakti sharet avaz mishabek sharet avaz should fushunat raftor sausgoron nediganist. Boyad in sharet barre chand nas the chandanas demonat ki raftor hushunat omiz raftor no sausgoron karvan shouldas. Ki darbolank mudat in sonhoi ki raftori hushunatomizoran echtemole integole mi rosaj genetikunaslebat koheshpebukan in Ravandi Fargeshes. Bing kote benazamiat ki raftor Kushunatomis Bahshi inmo Mustaed the Raftorasim Agar Zamino Hoshbosh.

SPEAKER_05:Agar Zaminhosh Naboshe Kam Tarbu's gone. Beshid that uh Darkitobe Freshotomo, Darkidobi Luis Sepid, Steven Pinkit, Madorika Shavodas, Joy Mukhalev, Mir, Ke, Habahamun Masalan, Viking, Urupor, Budata His or Saul, Ladon was no Tarabamishovke, the Horatka Rabudan, and Ruse Niokane, Escondi, Eskandina Via Yah, Sank, Jose Murafatarino, or Om Tarinjaw Meba Sharasa. Okay, Bazia was should be Estehis, but Bruce Bukon. In Hodar Doyre Man Hassan, but as a genetic, Belakare Yopedar Modaraman, Yobarodar Fuaraman, Yopesa Amuzodho, Amnes of the Hod, Doized, Belakhare Man Harakori Boy No Mikoram, Chie Kokhube.

SPEAKER_05:Jared Munda, Chismikeke, the Ramiketobe, Jauntirus Mik, Mardomonajao Mesonatis, Sedaso Damishan. Didan Odat Yaran Begaribe Begari Bo Mam Bemon Bosanchan, Borgetaboshans here, and she shall also be. Bo in Asba go e de Raban Shensifargashid to be the cosmic to be a cosmic to the sanctions box sanction to Baker Bosanchense Rabon Shansy Fargash and Poy Goshstan. And you come in robot even Bosanchiv. Behind the hotel, Shuman muske, Bovujude inke. I'll think to Yobiho, then should I visit solicamtar sat sole?

SPEAKER_05:Ki Jabomin sonin nibinan san atisho than a jahon unke Beselo Sarmoyaro and Ad Bozurkiarike Harakasimitun Bando Zikit Miho Delish Mikulazh Bagar Ilamoskalan Avanti Bashar. Amohamchanon Bohamun Daswe Asabi Bohamun este do inda Indunese and the Yimikonim Oncheke Hamkishemanis Hamilatemanis Ironis O Mumkine oko his or duz or pines or dias or bani more shit.

SPEAKER_00:Alon you marches the each or chubby sier siderimke onchiki ironis onchike yahoudnis oncike musalmon nis onchike shienis onchike soninis harki biruz the inhamun gabili giro i bakishovans gero ye uh chan million sole mos in tour mohanus my voice no tasa repeated more bachida bachida marathafar hanghova afkorva a dion de gidin tap and just him toin keba holbo systemic washimke bohish ku mazino manika lontemika stambachem and to madresibum, keneboyek tarojensi, atyankeros poshem, keneboyek far di boshik, hovietency, motofit, dineshutovia who deposhemasi boshe, but me baramantos in me devoimeter Maham and the Gimikon can I understand about Michan, but it have unlacked the Boz Micha, Didish Baho Did Bay Tariat Sabah for Dikemoto for Witfe, Mikona Tonke, Tchorchilibuta level by stable shot.

SPEAKER_00:But Marin O'Dommission in Turikovar hangsaritarajan hoy Momota commercial, Chizike Moderator, Marsh Momolmar, Yekminusoli Pishe, Musa Solipisha, Valley Modernity Chancellor's Holomade, Vaholo, Molekia to Bahold, Ambush Servata Molo as Amorikovarziva Holumade, Kagialaseba Modovichadam is so bad connected.

SPEAKER_05:Baksha's Yodis Raftor and Sormachon Talosh, Nishunbidam Genetique, Tiny Conne. But so is Yodibijdar alo chancelak or the Mukitaloshukon Big Shariet Hasishke. Shumo Hushunat Navarzidan roboyot yek, but Jodibin Joske Mutoletike Ruye Siopus Ombikon Yam should reference them. Siopustoik, Darhonevode Hoye, Murafai Tare Birunaz Mahalle Hoye Joon Kiz Darho Tarbiad Mishan Mizan Bruze Hushunat Darunho Panoze Bachitus Nishun Midike Voga and Farhang Tasidar Azuntaraf Jolib and the Farhangstrun Mothamomutu the Torikhe Basharangiva Omzeshroid Halle Moham Mohoye and Sondana Zaggiftin.

SPEAKER_05:Miguel Azama giving of team key moham says soyer John of Ronis and Vijay Gazis Duneshana Mobut. And we said, Miva Peselo de Gadoish. Okay, in Taridarunis, Bahami Hotir as Mahtumike Sobolsi Governaz in Darin Man Madame Radboje, Bayanman Man Sobolsio Hil Gabuchter. Mahtumisim Mobichi Dar in Mano, Nahod Hoyevar Hangi, Nahod Hoyeshte Mohisiosi, Mita Bonand, Shallo yet to the Gabun.

SPEAKER_00:Well, Madam Moferamba Hol did goya hob Ziva did goes on your cruci, the canor hammer or mikiran, uh poyad between hard to jambaru baby in Vacadering, the more the aftermord sepati so bad boyat, nachy genetic and baby netoran, or your professor poloming, such as we cast after ever genetic done, Marufa San, for come sad, Marole Midoran, such asun um hard of factor and asar migrant, very miganke systematic tarin, tizicomitunim, barasish and home has done.

SPEAKER_00:To Rosemohit has tarbiatas or music has Hamehastan. Valley will have a certain noise of Tasadovia and any more controlling hedge naddy. Rosematin Nahot Doroscoding to Nimavarish wasn't. Well Besiras will as controller systematic bashago, but she gives him Momotol, Connim, Horastan, Nayeggen, Balke has orange, Homo mania poly uh genetic poly scores, yeah, score genetic key, Baholo Azubimanam Fame Kamke Boyata Himshe, Unzoto Baho Cheims and a Home Has Tarmo Ba Molo Savidis Timoy, that Jen Homon Nevishudva, Bacheman John with him had Pambe, Masoele biologicum batha Jukonimke, Chetur Father with Santo Al Hushunat, Hola Masale or the Osotimidai Hoshibore, I chanced all the Masale or the So Bad N Kony, Hodambahol, uh Bistaja Abgerastam Valley, um delivery name she game goofy the coin mahtofe coni van nasin uh tungeroinisam and nahm but nisam you have geneticos and azarbium.

SPEAKER_00:Um I guess while John Bedim uh Dr. Pinker Ketoposhore McConnecke Bahall, Shaboy the Tori Boss San General Michael and Sonho Alon this your cancer ash to Hushad in the Hash with Michael or Morezio Hato Miongino Umbre Bashar Tahoe Bistar Sabato Satz, the Sadovang Soligushte. Masoli Jangi would derivali, but more the game, or more than Bishab Korea Baal Shafton, this fabulous or the pitch of pines also the pitch. Some of some shinos by and sanctionos, chetonigomic oyande basharu, Bisante Ham Kore needsante holo but you have so you can go to begin, but Bash genetic marks and hope systema hot hole, the strip holo sang, Masalina hot hole, emother and logic of the Sruconium of T BM Julovali, along by jam banding of the goo.

SPEAKER_00:She told me, Bashar Nico, you've got Omid War Bashim Bashar, Ishtarham Kori Koneva, Petuna series, Atarodike, Hollard Hushammasweamkin Darbodish or in Badan, Djordocone and Masoelica or Lamo des Stio in Masoel Yona, Shomoziot Bashanazare, Hushunat Bahamkoham.

SPEAKER_05:Baghi Masoel Barin Chorschu Sabor Msha, Madam Behamchin Nazari voilhas. Nimish as Aval, show name Mesaly omia nevesanam, we wasan shosi masalan perdubizer in compositions. Peredum targeted uh targetish dot targetish, you do not or no shabascar enough, but it names perksish yes, I'm already uh pinkabo de boss sanction, boss sanction, y's land archaeological approach. Ruihar de Bosanakhi Bosanus and Yoga Khanada Chimigan, Chinese damage, um cheesike to as material culture, your cultural material.

SPEAKER_05:Ma vote the farangi as usually and son big you to geneticesh, to so polosh to memoristo, absorb, inchabody paid them, honestro as darishima what the far hangeshtebosh, bad borusorogatorik, bad burusorgatos, to sivoto and sanctionaros. Bitari mumbuchem inrub melakarin recardi boss sanction of shim, san atishhodan jahan, vitalid and buzuken engelobahasteshatoaz shadegjoneshin shodanham buzultar tahabulik of the Dar whoze kude and son va sharo yet ezistih a jibuharibe.

SPEAKER_05:Mommyongine to the ombre dar Javomeshekosigirabarande y anime, la khare mordanebacho maschangita fika yenuka's bulu mixalancharong nikonam yukolish. Mimanda myongiro miangin senhekosjigabarande mobati eskele mikonimki chansa gimordi Kamtar Shekorzi Rabarande Boli chelepansi panisoligiru di natemmardon and a katli beinemardon dar baraki jawameshekorzi ravarando shastar sade. Mianginesh dar beine mardo kushinadum bein fardinasig sida sade, and e shomagel yik narejabonik, marde jabon, dar yk jomeshikosigovarandi funza bises also de pishbudi sida sade monoshki dar nezo ebben fardi koshivishitainke peturzhabi be me.

SPEAKER_05:Emruz dar hat to hashentarin jabome with dar sad nemiris. Bahamikoder sad hesodanazami barimesol and muzagedar urupothagraman azik a sa fakishar to say of the keshwari hashangardi, haboli masalan, hash hezorum with our sad yeah ham chinchisi but in dwovanasan be nazil chufta de hobzinigo konim uhtorat tabaso de yik sebu mi shakshi, beno levioton de motomarakis. Amo darkin run fagadi nabu. Darkinorun hamikufan buzur sho daneke saramo ye keikemanba.

SPEAKER_05:Topisha's ebdo fanovari hoyesan ati kenita bonisan bahrevari uvarambolo, az yekarzamishom betin yutungandum baderi bravishesunati. Welgar ravishung should betu dark ngandom barri. Kekhubuzutar kali mizone san inbud av sanguftimke san E latte who should not hato dar should omibhoambo shiniki Sare manba bohamdi girhobatar. Manba darjahan has amu mutuvozenis. B Nazar shonov vahti mujudot nafaga den son. Mujunod hatabotaske as if you saw the yopiside.

SPEAKER_05:Manobe bagova badish to li the mes darashun tazminb raftor hoye hushunantomiz kam tam shelo, chun hushunat, de vije bohamnu, mutun hatanok mushet, chun hamnuamban zitubu kush. Okay, hotel, man fit mikun. Asavorman, bahmi hotel mang young keyabbayander pishwilibukonambar po yik voghi yet the yik asli pishwini bukonam. Dar jabomi oyande bivoseteye afso yeshba bihbude kef yet fanovari, kemunjarbe bihbude efficiensi mishek, bahrevari ni bolo, bohanin mambaikure zamin, benazarmo manobi farovoni baroye, jamieten son kohindoike ilme bashar, mechu ni jan ofishum, tardina to chab.

SPEAKER_00:Manam mutakadam in judiman ma'mulang orapadishalachiash, muspato puteli bonigom kana along shavo atam has, you kishamika di ba hold the rimas shavo hiding gohomique, who should not can hastenka job kishwahramba hold I kid the jang with the chamo kishwa de g and a five cold back that jahon go name, I can. Miguel, Hushunatva Yang, Bedalum Talev, Khosh Badek, Mobichan Nukash, Sharicadva, Manhunam, in Obellato and San Hodoran Ketunan, Sonambeshinandva, System Hyotaro Ekonanke, Betune, Oyande Beta, Bara Hushura Ambezanan, Holomasile, Risky Hasesh, Masalushmas, Masale, Dighas, Masal, Dighaske, Mutunan, Dolatobamakon and Valeholo, I guess the Bedid, Inchalasaru Bukhem Jamman, Niconim Va, Edom Hasushon, Solemanus Mundabarum Kutunam Solkonam, Kishavarzumato, in a so bad kid value, becoming darborum, arm mashab uniahoy mele must have been about hastesh, you know, check out boys on the jang butan, but some the soulan, unestecomoti a valindo la to, to you task in Kushunatoya, Jang systematic mo Alanda Soban conim, Rosh Konan Valley, Belazamiotke Holagi, Jam Madido Stubashim, Benzamiot Kemo Alando Chare, Khushuna de Cam Tari Satajdo de Moonva, Belazarmiotke, I give it to him, Hufe, Conim, Baham, Hamfe Kikonim Ham Korikonim, or Yande Beta, Hamdo Stubashim.

SPEAKER_00:Well, I gave no Darcy Holas, Hori meeting bigger boss on the Hushmanat, but she given the hot abon, who shouldn't it only chibash.

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SPEAKER_00:Had the Ralph chance that solution to Nestara Hamkoncone, to Nestemor Besiori as Masoelo, Halkon as Far Get O Masoy, Dorosta Aloni, Mibini Masol Hushunato Hato, Far Valley, I get Omorish Moning Bibinica Hattop, Farmozarda Jahon Cam Shuddy, and I show off the Roman again go a current bibnique Bachoi Heli Camp Tari. Saf Nashadap and Hanuzio Dorik Badrosh Corivali, Miss Baby Panjo Le Pish, Afrotaba Bachoi Camtain's Bad Kusashte Mimiram Hotelus Tarzieva and Shane Vocanin's Hubia Barin, Banazamir Kabel as you know Darks beginning, uh Modernitaro, Pamroba Claw between Pish Barim.

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  9. S3 · E116 · 16 Jul 2026 · 2 hr 12 min

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  10. S3 · E115 · 13 Jul 2026 · 1 hr 30 min

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