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Season 3, Episode 114 · Houshivar Podcast پادکست هشیوار

ساختار سیاسی و آینده ایران: تقابل سنت و مدرنیته | دکترشروین وکیلی، دکترجوادعباسی

7 Jul 2026 · 1 hr 28 min

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آیا در تاریخ ایران نوعی اندیشه سیاسی یا الگوی حکمرانی پایدار وجود داشته است؟ مفهوم ایرانشهری دقیقاً چیست و تجربه تاریخی کشور چگونه می‌تواند راهنمای ما برای عبور از مقاطع حساس کنونی باشد؟ در این قسمت از پادکست هشیوار، به میزبانی دکتر مهدی شفا، میزبان گفتگویی عمیق، فکری و تفصیلی میان دو تن از صاحب‌نظران برجسته در حوزه جامعه‌شناسی و تاریخ هستیم تا ساختار سیاسی ایران را از گذشته تا افق‌های آینده به نقد و بررسی بگذاریم. در این فصل از گفتگوها، با بازخوانی متون کهن به بررسی ریشه‌های *#اندیشه...

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SPEAKER_01:Man, so you can easily darb in bejunk the odd word to Abalandoste Sonyan Fuyova Mutar Velbu de Solisan Yik Muju Diatholis Mutalbiguzte Vamutar Guzeshtenis, Vinke moi Dovo Konimke, and Dish Yosy Ironia and Dishte Judob of Te Darkam and Dishoi Siosidar Jahann has ser befardas, Chizike Ironia Doshtan, Hicho Jahann Nadashtan Vainha, Manfe Kukonamke in and dishes mirose mudovemas, any shama and ser Yunoni, Islami Tobian Dore Moser Urupoy Karbiham Darin Mitunin Josujugukonid Baz Nazarman in Abraham Nis in Kuyoihas.

SPEAKER_01:In bedeman bedon man on Niskamoin and dishes yosimun or sip di de ya as massi hodesh munaresh or two boy as the unbogimunde. Manchun Bachtkam has got a minor me do son midun fatum Vijigero is a miconamba bat inke beshakare and rose and mom yon. Human vigigero midunimkeway mohtelefki rojib tatum one and shiran shari because there is albate voge iron shari and mesuchilvo diged are in salhail, dochore bohi bat fami o catch fahmi sho day and e Bazio Fekaranke Vachim Yran Shari and yi tofte judo ofte kim iron yodashin bahito dunya doshtan, Babet Holes Voshek, Comelan Rung Bergardim the Nigimuro Dorosukuni.

SPEAKER_01:Bazio Digamna some be injurisan canibaso tachayuli swe wide as in hoff or se legaref to tarhoye no y darando. The man fekramin efro to taf fritas, manzure manas andishesironiva and the shiron share, she ski voyed artorih, woju doshi. K Arsan dan mutun muhtalefar tulitorih, was tobiofti, the shomomitundu that de poyunrod, sho kenar, iron darhameduraho, just to jukonida jum ledar mutune a debi and as namo siosat namhovagare. Vijigiho artunkonkit matunke doctor Vakiludus begon hamdar ketavoshu nevishtanki and she run shahri vijigiho muchta sotti dore.

SPEAKER_01:Msimasanan sha or moni, misle dodgari, misle rayat, the rayat varvari, misle mashvarat va lovvisorak mis dogun, in vijgioro modar andi shiosiron shahri, hamdar, nevishtoh, dar nazar wa handar amal dorim, vha onchamki dar to litorhi on gudeshde hamia's amin hobodi. And shumovaktibunyongozaronisilor andongonit, as could ruba conit, we need mabnosh varassi sha y stigi. Anywahti deuko dar o matram shikha kem, yeshoy stigiy, heli borezidore. When shoy stigino motar, the hame unbunyon gozaron, the shahana bozorgitorian mi holo choice moy le show apos binoui masananogama no dear shoh has Bahami Judatulitori Kuroch Dorush, inha Hame Darbaun boy stigi of shoys there, and sheosye Iran Yo Iran Sharibu Judoremar Darun Homibinim Harmohom chain Mavored Zaif should Mosho hede in het hot budim zavol budim suhut would job joy or drat would mirose giron bahov uh poor moye sarukard dorin karskan in miros uh as heli aside gam mut me for the car devoche as mirosi unoni as miros binunareni ilomi to bi emberasimborani jadido rupa iva barun aksudishode van darun moyhosarijochodesh, has manolo bagasham as mutun barishumobuhunam in farata minjurnabu gim das siosat nama logi chisunevish tanuguftanya andarz no more tam should it but afte.

SPEAKER_01:Mampan sala khi kamarkoska dam farat bargana have to my sho maje. Hobunjo as uh uh then de ota wata boi hajinasil to seeva would putinishro over there's indure. Of the oro, you know in jury what in home chariot no menivis should and was in Basaka Josh in Johnis Valium a Joel at an arsencon kazna man, taf kiki would judar and ne beine sios at nomine visiva chariat nomini visi in home tedoda ham de gara. When nahat so beine farais a dezilulhi. Gemanda in ketovicolo in barum af to a chop Darbyo, Jo Baska Adamke, Masalamba soft Hamza Monda Farah is a de Hamza Lullo.

SPEAKER_01:But Mobi not have kicking now look is a lullo should get as um basil iron shari core. That's another mention in Chi Nisia ni parisit or hikika. Man of them how much did you get out of ordin a son and she ran shari orani to shas? K Bazanoro Manu Tautaway Shariat Noma, Marum Jo, or Damke in Ho Hamundarun Moyash, Iron Shahri, Valume Sonos Mun can be joy Iran Boston y Islamia Bun is officially. Balun Darun Moyas are Josh. Shoma da Dore Moul Masalan mili dark care man yet show in a kemali.

SPEAKER_01:But hash to never sefa have valish and dars no mass. Showman mili darmasalan or siosarri darbor saljurion room. We me need unjust dinner or my table lethoyfulish day, as one hatchinigomikoni basera yet, dot, ad, mandusto and vogana lag should give this method, but you know. Kitchirune dar shall or be ran, a main hobude. Midar gejoy masalam gives. Office, she's I got an Irania under it. Show me the ho show already getting at which you cannot Iran, as Harot gerefted or caution joy son, ginemnajology, majarhas.

SPEAKER_01:Gasan judged a man poor sees a dam. Man has nestly sauce on Yana. The bad boy shwemasan Juvenir okay, Mam Duishas, Muay Simkonicomilum sauce on Yon gets to Azunoi, Karunodim Kunimanamasana Tabaram as unos. When I came and dishear and dishear poor Moye has too little Jamish with an Ambut which has been has kill boy, um Much Tasati Baraye. And dishes ironi the soft or sios ironi that too litarian, there dunno jadid unmuch task, umitaman, but I am already soon, the chest system.

SPEAKER_01:Mono sevas far a young dunio jadid mitamonin, Masana choice alaridabo mayorhoy jadid tariffoni. Ba un rockish Nazanaminuz Yanegam system horam as the obokonin, baby nimke mochitas of Vijigi Ho, Dar Kudunia Kazunhaw, Bistar, Takok Pedom Nicol. Hologar los em su diarred on Bistar to Zik Hamdocam, Helimochakanam.

SPEAKER_00:Audio Vakili, Audio Abosamurde, and the Shiva Softan as Vijigi Hoye in and so I can as Risho Bahot softtorish as Dabomto who dynamism system but Shomam Hoborho Sobat card did officially mafumi ron Shahirho Command Boss Card.

SPEAKER_03:Yanin Yiketawispanomi Iran, Tamadun Raha. Hola Sashinke, Iran, Judaienki Ik doolate, Judaienke Wahid CS are Tamadonamas. In Lotya Valonsidovom ketwiasati and Sharium Madinike to Sebashov because Ria Valinke do Lakikmafum Vobas with Hamadun. Yani Pekar Bandis Javom Sany Hamija Dunya Shabihamdianis Hakomulie Vobas with Hamaduni Ruty Mukon. Masireta Voledola to Arkudumazina, Masir Dijeo Khashodeshude. Un Hose Tamadoni, Kara Abasi, Vakupala, Hajjove Udud Salibuzash, Hodan, Hamishunda Dekalias Sakharabam Dichemishan, Helias Mafahim, Tazabini Iran, Ba Urupakheli Nazi Kevam Didi Helias, Masir Tarifishun, Tel Haibum can he joke.

SPEAKER_03:Mador Hai would ratio litari should see a sati Iran Shari Kodashunam, Bang Kalami Iran, the Iran Shari, Arashbekarmi Segat Havolati Darian Drim Kalovanikvaba Switamatunego Zariaval, Guzaridovominke, Dar Iran Heli Dir Pasta Heli, Eskem Roder Vahilimodavane. Yenikadi on the rim, Heli Sanat Rushterim, Heli Mat Rushterim Balhalofish, Kelioboman Mukonan, Chop Mamula, Nemiran Behunanva Kesanikemigan, Iran, Tarifesh, Mugate Bude, Yakutaharifish, your Namedunam, half as it tariff in Naderan Mardum, Yoko Langi, high fine to Kishmyoding Benazarman Nashia's Nadonistani, Dodoi Tarifiva, Soral Sanat Naraften.

SPEAKER_03:Then we're in the Esteem Roderim, uh Pivaster Gia Tarifish, Gozaridovum, Gozarisvum Kedardor and a Jadit, Mabovurude, Modernity, and Yepekarandi, Eshema Hosse Tamadon Rupa Iruber Steam, Kija Hongishhod, Hamajunor Girls, Iran Ham Shod, Yevi Moshare, Sambina Dun Irani Vatama Rupayu Jutare and Hamsa Yo Ira Dimia Felias and Sori Irani Vamgiri should Mukalifitarift Urupa, Baina Balimbury Madimaz Urupa, Bishiklik Halon Vamgiripani. Vamo im Taras Haminki and Mordes soft do latri mala Vambiripon Seven was a rink, Maba yek, uh Vuru de Pekarbandi Hyamod, CSI Beran, Ruberwasti Mazdorifatali Shadav of Imajaroba Nahoda Artist Rushut, Tuna Camp Tamim Pedekat, Mashrute, Judah Vurude, Nahodimus Majiless Napole Monitor, yet I wouldn't give him a modern should then is a music.

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SPEAKER_03:Daruk Jamyate Iran, Neswad Urupa Chin, Tarifaginigo and Tabla's Doran Modern, Mamulan Beni Panjum Tayeda Hombuduk, and Terras, was I can Iran Budek, Dolati Mostagarre, Faragus to call the Tamadunish Alamatinique, drawing by Jamyati Kami Damu that putani to geography gozutem CSE Mostagin, Dudmanaike, Sisal Solution Pumsa Solution as Angel Moshaw Visionist, in Alamatinique Sazuka Cherry Shakimedi.

SPEAKER_01:Mohanuz do Heliooni, when I wanna begin Tajob, Moja Mob of Modernitam, and John Dodim, Shikash Holt, Holobin Bagarin because I was a value Masana Charles Robocon. In a inodanazartevashim Muhemecemo, Hamchinokas Garden, that two litori in and dishes ironish more as Rishoyus to the Yuz or Boni, or hard Surubokoni Bajilo. Iran as your indoor emandar holitown puyoyu, Johoyamas, and it hatochisi, rochto de Shouldarobetum Salan Honish, Tatwik Dodan by Islam, Yo Botasha Yu, Yo Bokar.

SPEAKER_01:That an ine cheese that you know tedi gave momarzuconomic pure holes nadori. Kibegim in yitchisy ki hollis evalu no holissibarishumade. Yo more unique has in Mot Hajwe, the to go the Mot Hajru Hositari Hodomunodori, well limitungi tajobe, Tajrube be naziv da Jahane. Nach it Jahone Digaronam Tajvoi Hotunoshan, witar the Hotchuna Mihore, Daran Bosch and the Gian, Mikonan, Taj Robe, Hodumunke, Hostelit, and Bosh Tajvoi Torias with Ali Modar Ma Aras Gudim, Skandaromade, Yunoniumade, Aragumade, Mogulumade, Tabiatan Mob, Bisharit Vhani Ranya Puyobudan, Dar Hifseun, S Darun Moyahova Suton Hoyas Liver Achse Baszi Chizojadit Azun Hop.

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SPEAKER_03:Tumor yet conuni and itar share yet and goofan, to your un share it share to nunimumabari availimboraz Engela Faro and Sevada Sududi Divisor Kishmain Tarif, Magiran Deg, Anosor Tamadun Shuddin Yani Mudani Ti Pichi Taras must. Yanibe Tamadon Urukoi te farayendi kunaholo jilikishot Janet Faruftochum Tamadon Urupay to colo tarich nyokoni, Hoshieneshimbude. Te punsa Lugozasheski ydafibidor, Mishanihore, Vazududisasol Pishe, Keshurumikonbidas and the Ziva Fate Jahon, Vazudud Sol Pish Ironham, the Turge Did I in Dostan Mish, but we are in Farayan Movom Girika in Bisharas inke Chisibedi, Albate Iron Allah, Ms.

SPEAKER_03:Ram joy Mohemi Buddhelo Shasan, join Mohemia Alan Shamelli. Allah note can see inke on chicken, and come lambo fair, and to Farayandi, Dimekaras, interest Hamum should the Bosh Begin Masalam, as I'm callant Hamunchitari and Shuma, Farayand Helios Lubare, Mishai Gozash, Hishvatan Banam with the Dandarapna de Tarichmo, I'm sure some to chumirim, Montanas Hoi Pishin Montani Dovare, Birumbian Yamutunan, Chis Hyruz Guzash, Yovare Sakon and Birumbe Kish, Montad Dovarim and Modemodernity to Holoze, and it might have dear ham kudemodernity in Usula modernity as hot goesh, that Rupa in Payomadikolo that Satajoniteshata Tamadun Urupa e the Shibana Zerman, Tolim Duna Mikhaimodin Bas Pesh Myanna Mudhodnity Basmanna, Kelly Fish or the Kana modern Tibinazerman Shish um Rochinder Shish Motera Yerikilid, Kenos Setosh Pichid system Hubel Hili, and it shall involve meki fanovari honare and far hangash, darh darvokomri chodoshondora gases, but in the yard shish kuba yebashishke in bash dovum khilhatarnake, dar bash nezame modernity um siasa darpate nezami.

SPEAKER_03:Ham baby jimoviki wong girmishanina. Shonmua Lambasi Dari Mikonim Damodose Siasate be kezinakimamose integrated arburashram, Bad Nigat Yani, begun it seta hose canimoddin toilitnikon, do lat toilitnikon, siasatva nezame artishidurosukone, baitasaturosumkoninam darham tani das. In seta, vurudicpe Iran, Machili negadidaram Darbarash. Yanika Dolat modern Dariran Dolatum a Fari Budyana as Doran Darov Ahmad Shabigri, Doran Raza Shabigri between Doran e Dirim Megim modernity modam there was Sarishwe, Touchamidunam Hazar Sisaduham, Ham Shannon Heliason Sotter Eadimi, Astan Hatha Tazar Sisad, Shell Hangam, Kangal of Darumid Lai Shell Kangalova Zunamisham, Sotar Hema, Ham Shannon Fisher Modern Helius.

SPEAKER_03:Mobi Shrefti Hadam Begadame, Modernity Saracardim, Baitavan Queen Set of Hose, Tori Moser Mod. Mogavamat konimdarmogableshmotobi many kibishna simesh, and to him the Iger Michael Vom Girikonim Chiz Runch and Revom Giri should be a bit bashin to Zadan, Vapan Zadan, any butch basket.

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SPEAKER_01:Manzuke, dar dore pishomodern Hamchedi as in she's hob Bude, Yani Bidow based on Benazaraman Dar two Litorics, the other Buddha and Mombockini Movamke, Dar Bas Modernite, Mau Mr Kellish is I dig, Mr Apartamon Nishini, Mr Ron and the Gi Hubamalakadim, Darsiosa M Hamm Budet. No poidor ragansadim to say as bolo fishery. The would you do wording bad man more fagam can no call me hoy, ziodi darbar the modernity modershki amma, dar any whole limit to him beginke uh slami, bas the mashute, base magiles, vain ha, not shizon is given over in corbish and model show it, Taskilot Doshiman Ashrofiat, Hone Don Haw.

SPEAKER_01:Way in Hobudan no Zer Gudan, in Chimasanwam faking Gorimke, Dar Nigo Mion Shoibu de Harim Hoste Michael, Hunemardum Dasish wouldn't have codes would you do shaken. Micarde. Na how the Mashwara, Visora, Tony Don Hay Ashrophy, who modigan, Masana, Bas Condon Ashrophy the General Doris, Susan, Dura Ashclean, if Connie Don Hayedon yes, and Kukumato, Darva, Ham Kumak Mikonan, Ham Mahora Mikonan, Ham you joy that's come meuran, that about ham curry miconan in in nah there's been after well mother jaded who neither him.

SPEAKER_01:Masalan or your majest Nimituna Johnishin Bosch, yina hot hoye control, Jedit Modoshtev in Horo, and John with the man more modernity dar jose. And you as much as a man, Michel Gilura Fanke vanimo Bargardi Mabnora Bezorim Bar Guzeshtifa. Holo yet sheam as hard begin betanhoy, him Benazarman, Kifyatemukona, which would bar receive the cat's youth book on him, Valley Dar in a hull, Benazaram by Rusbishim Yaninke Baby Mun Vijigi Home Taste and the Ches Yossi Eroni A Dot Hogamardon Rai get Parvari Choice the Solarin Hall, Dutch Systemia Lonjaw Middleman El Zomin will be there in Zaminem Ken Moya system to dar Jab me do the belly, Jaob me do the valley that Hammu do Chan has our solam came as a moy knizome podisho in so good hog and it for hot ham a lot cherum you have to debranke there ham nizomi podisho as my daughter choraj me should it party show me with a shot of sin ablish mosha bossim shoes my shrimp shouldn't do are you should ask him not who mador budan harmikas mador choraj me should dan in dray yet karamush me should devolom it mobitumat the to jikarmasan uh who kumat me should dar movel dum gurus new and border gandumbeho in her hop uh das me dot man faking cramkino yik darvo in your own never bookonin.

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SPEAKER_00:Cominam in uh Didgoikena Hamyanna Podish or Homasalam Zolem Budan, a Diddy or a Mo Middle Amin Masal Mitosa. Oyoban in Tor Budachon Martin in Obedunim Bitunibis Tem Negorconim Oyoban, betuna system, Bosch, Kebetuna Hami Dodgario Ad look about Susanna Moham Bosh, we should be very an am Salam name is a dating mushati nadish. Oyoran Buddha Tori Marke Podish or Honey Woodan Dodgar would unbame mash as Mardo Miguel Barrich and Sas or Munken said domination.

SPEAKER_00:Or that Domus or what are you to be more contact to the Johnicis very side of before some valley just a radicals with my shame.

SPEAKER_03:Are given man Aval daughter Darware Tarhimas Alicon and begun to become Possokam Valley Chispani Dutor Bothangeli as in as I tarimas a la room. Mom modern should be moy bash as Jahani Muay Tama Dunimusaria Kenny Steam Alonikuchagi Jahani there in Vik Jahone Darham Tani day there in Kim Modernam should mom to shimm modern should almoby him to sonatar mumbe chibidarin charit alone or bigrim or more big grim jam conim in jadim. Yenigarish in it name more yet time musareliasti mujaza him as barrier dunya ki modernitarwamgiri cardi in vamgiri modernity velasho de ke mizira marikushwamgiri kardi onche wam giri kardi modarim to the taris of the mumwakar with himkonam rochamba shadigani the jambatanize kabule modernitas on the shuru va tarikumbe masraf uh behinekarden inchare yet nigga m conesh digare skin to name modern farmigre uh don't give a mic modern should the modernitar Viraishama to empty the unchiced in battery man chosen fake chosen fake Nazarimum can the Shavasham named Shavasham Huberchon Mitun Bushumbach Daskonim.

SPEAKER_03:Yaniman Motar Motari Munodarim Tarik Ayandar Shizka Reductor Taki Drusham and Namitun Bagim Gosan Sharifabud Norm Kenekanifek Mkonam Adamiji DM Nabuchigan Bosgash we go ash behot fake one half businessoli Nekimotari Gozashem and Ruham Shon half as a de Mori Shonegwein Hoviatman half aze man nakiman sharewin must and dasal peace felon odambu alon felon yeah yemori in twelve dasal badam hamunyam kedasal pish budam alon injuriam dasal badam fellon ye emptading to remory faramushishodam and my dasalabla mu yodamnistige belly yesterday film yeser yotoshderam are ye Chiz Basio modernitar modernitara ham shon yek half is it might be a stara ham shoon ye boy goni as not kibazi axir to album play them could many buddha unyekir sanimishna to show me a welishwonas and yodamia buddha young koshamia that's how uh in holetovombenazarman mum kenny uh to jomish and a sala bishtar movar hot yeah telly doze came there hotashtro amikar motto jumish and a sort of tariqigoshterman obey barrier masrafard and mafahimbe.

SPEAKER_03:In pen yet Hamoustavinos Alon to Shaski was a good many manzura. Duto mango ye peivasegida mafahime Mes always an embarrassed Rayat Yekalamedi Mumova Ziboshir Beno Mardum and Duty Kalame bekommire and rayat mambly siosie do lately calamir motomutar defeat. But it will both the CSI Hossituram bekomir. Yen Masalan Twil bay Memesalwithanbaroton Massalan Sufie Shahimguf the Rayat Sufia Ms. Motherfavetimodish. Mumken calamardumro edome kati baby stun bagili ha manish take rush mumken edome phase the caution yes are solidar body maradum darmu the siosate mo tanibermardum the Novarish inaro negomikoni alumni asu.

SPEAKER_03:Man I think remizanik emptod mafahimi as Andy Chase Alongadi Mahalfina. Yemasidium to me Ozodidi Ho Manchodam Ozadi Khomeun there's Arza Shike, Michel Sam, Ozarambarashbejan sethodams, set arzeshaipaye ishemo yebenezir Kovin Ozadi Kimalan der Mim Dairan Yanichi Yanit therein Kalum to Iran Megan Masalan Hejob Barinicizan Ozatigna as tablight capitalistic ozosch. But Azumvaram Masalan Shemidunam Omricombarum couldn't go in Mardamodigan Maldum Toban Moza Dimeki.

SPEAKER_03:Mafum Mardum Mafume Demosyunanimotefaute Mardum Twiran Mesalvaratumbezana Mardom Tiran Santa Mardum Gensiatinis into Mardo Bosan Kobdemus into Democracy Rish Mardon Ashiran Yujami Bardedoras and Babude Yani Turumisham Bardorbud Urukayedoran Semurisham was over your jome bardidorbud Yanishom during the mafumaz azedi unjointasujazim darbarash, mutankay Mohamun soft or hai mock anybody, mehtaskonim, joy bastard ne munashinke alon mesalikar mudanalteki goofti or behtale kemishadwoli dozir Koyataruni systematicomoli, membisham hotel two year felonjome bofelon na ho decisom shallad morafan, mardom shall machluke to felonjome, secatigmasalang of angelessan daran shallad moafarudina the CS angelistanabouts, musovari Este Moro, um darundoran jomi angelis who the jomi angelistan shizurious angelisan withonia beadin Motava Sheradi Solid Domani Malikiatish Sheradimus CLC Sherad Azadini Sherad in Solar Ms.

SPEAKER_03:Amum Duran or should be mass to Iran or e to go and jam. To undoran share and yet we rushed to Iran the town. Unia's on the CLC there should recall Mikano Unja injured as anger for rich task between him dad duran Kohan Dota gozarmi to remember now CSI Irani the shekel shake ang is a poider but in high de rivachitamo usean Iran Vija starimore now letwe start it in Mau Sikadam Chimasandaran Ashkani Iran Urupachin Hop says Pangason Iran yedun yedun shall side panels collish Vla Bachimi should hope shahai kibrat near siden amturkafan shay stebu than a mashun yangelak with an stable mikadan as the shumikavan Kostrofarbizon goon degir machinikon edo bodo as miconhely digashkanium the rim during the nibarbu de kuta shakarum kel bad de summit, then show messandu hapto let's see more far benazanumesh una mibinke shahot comebanique marsume este nabu de comal mofar si asign she's a far no seasine almost an emafum de mardum bad yemmafumid zarurati modafili mardum there siasat do let be muftanibermardomashu yet do let muhtaniber mardum to iron jury would mardum of ferit barmardum shall you offer it in Bayonne CSIR and Sharia says a valish hamibuded hamin amusera mige edomed Solinek alan mardum by soft parleman oh modern shirat parleman moafar with the tuiron majless to you onish major mashurium.

SPEAKER_03:Oh yanit Heli at a grandboy son not as you come held more fera managed.

SPEAKER_00:Montam Majilis Majlistra to Alon Yari side solima hands to alone to Iran said the Cisalimajless Nigokanim the Mokablanchim Kabanam Y Sazukar Dashim as novajani as me had him farbudsohter Motad empted on to the shim alone fish now the battery darmour dishes the gig as points a lot we ask now to jarm with a mobile in a points in concept yet poor bass of the caramel as a five Maolochon Autobahn time holo I can be town a domachon between polyzen besanto orange so bad him or a share beginning by Oyande but um almost be far made holo dary robives holding as the matum in this as on this I mean I loved um less for yet might on boat boy tiger barkun.

SPEAKER_01:The chudroham borra oyodar hukbarobarkunan the shudan or sorry ni imat verafat verahmet barra oyoskipodishavan horobit hoodomiru navohu and solon taribkunan comilant do tarafesha yetnach then I'm no skill shouldn't well mushakase colour I yet a midnight goes an arrow brayeti and yaro bayetium madame bo Massan mezone or poi tiki cardanficadan arrow any mollet john no moll no musem varia yet any teach core injury knees masany barisum got them mass amal cardiway carchardi then cori micardan ho mardom amaland system then the gimicharchy magimi co kumat ye podeshoizolem musalat barjon umolnomardum washe chancet soul chodish con esta bombira in thatforman vettiman didem came as an under hamming mat in our tank butchme or maybe would show the ham right to marde and archum le du jum le boham are the belly in Basil as the men along Jam bandi on chicken Dunye and Bruze as Jumle Dunya to Mruz as sung of several yik to her nish niece Yaninkimke the Budeshdev Duny Bar Gardey, by him Vogue as sim as man, that's the Hodomun Misagi Bahai.

SPEAKER_01:Mon name to him devour bakeshim chor by yet butunio jadidish soldiers that are girl washim. In condo, the bog and de cade Jahani, as Jeti Earthbote Vinha, Man Odorin begin na mochodun y chizavi dorim, whichunicadabi no voice as armas should any. But as a man in a in shay came out, uh and the shirani dorim, damn his omhoya, half of her in Tikhobi, the Zamon man Pishar and Conitaco Dorant. In ho In Majlist Choi, Doctor Farmudan, value doctor Vakinom Major Lissium Dutchim Value Chancel, ye do a hoi.

SPEAKER_01:Kilimo himbudan, yen y Massananda the Hay C that your shadow yet chantomaj list arimka some massure and all much from a rush. Name you do not naming short chantum him to home in ha major listen it to follow coroma than inke major me jam ish, the burnd or the coldish and long can you go and look at some majestless and darl farmers which match listening. I give my in house baller son imaginess now but she better as good any she. Well again, majestarmo yet as unchizikar Nizomhoidore because you couldn't do rushish bookonim nanki magnesom with magsi.

SPEAKER_01:Well the money baremo, jabop namede chum doros be star imaginess or more was harop would harop corri cardan, card duros and jump, nice with the man faked but has seized boconim, we sam rubegelunigoim, hock boconium webimalayichi masan nezom doctor farm is only tedrubi show yesolery, batifurrijo pedarish mio, but show is the gishmurou. As Dilekoned on Hoiko Mosadigo, Nemn Furu Aminio Kiukidamia, Danun Naho de Ashrofia to Tarvia to Taj Rubekuchumikarde, Yikia Bozukarin shot ishkolotike that Nimgana here but sochtorti sunatiasin tierubi ashrofi, man ashrofia, muswetunam yani lafsam asun laf so yike, pikmuna ashrophiya niz and the gim of score inam Krohat Kalebi, Molemar dun Khornache, Ashtrophia Dar Mazam As Dar Isolet Kodish, Khiliam Karsos would, Odrat Ramaharmika, Dar would rat Sharichwood, Hata Mogulovaknu Madanch, Khanidanhoi, Ashrofimolo, Madan, Badju in Yu Digaramiganke, In Hans Ustuhanhoi Buzurgan, Alamandarin Ketab Gov Temke Etifagan, Mogolo, Ashrofieti, Mogoliro, Bejoy Ashrofieti Irani, Karodan Vegereftam Yan Iran Yomboshkenor Madan, Khanidon Hy Ashrofi Mogul, Dusikarn Twiran Budan.

SPEAKER_01:Alan Show Alberi Daruso Marishkar for usan, Khanedoni Johnny Gorbani. Maraften Kormidoni Karan. Khanidoni Joni Gorbani, Jello Yirha, Hanus Itavoro Soretteran, Inaz Hamdura. In Nahdi Ashrof Yet Bogan, Karke Toshte, Markonande Bude, Bakubin hash should. As the Venelki Dadonia Jedi Chizo Dikobageshni is Monikinimton Wellon, begin yekonedone saltanati masalan misery, but alone how the ash uh ashrofam Doros begin to rose fully. Manfunam Dana Hojat Ars the Kral Bukonke, Dan is Omhoy Zamon Man, but if in Tychobi Emkon Tarhas, but I hexam Miros Barai Dolat Baris yet, but my water mother and she on shari dole.

SPEAKER_00:Pisio Mam O to Bakin Holo Barrier Husnehatom, Alomitman, a shogol begin, but a gibbas and dog, in a chimasilier, or after on Badishwana Bishadam with the Guzha Sobad Khadim, but him Hamas Shamoshe Aminablan Ham, Bokodam Sobat Kid Ham, Darguek to Iran the Shikobakin Evishit, had to agree in the zombie podishy and ship another or you tabosam in Azarodor and Kibishe Avas Bishara yet, so the core would strip shake holo, Jum Huriam, Jumurio Podishy, or Shahanshay Bolushamo, which is so bad, Valley, Barkimota for Shomand quick hat to get his own shall you and Bushaboyas Hosakor Hy Bush Bishop Age as one uh mash we had a dash but I wish I dust with it.

SPEAKER_00:Hollow between a jam and neighboring are settled or shibbs of killy, command over to a bossiban by Khan de Red over a jam and the billing barrier separately shallow between the poi between barrier, and as a moyhood crony or de colour munkan barrier on the which you do not could much monkey better family.

SPEAKER_03:At my kuchikiman comela, some are in his bag in Biguzh, I don't know. But as by Adam in Turbosha, some Vijay, Mahin. Montano Tanik Moshegunemota Silvash in Bajon. Oh Vinke Boschavoidi, Bavo Chichushman does the in uh cavo it and a Zenman Edo Mir Kavoidi a Doshud Hamadunova Bosch. Yenmo Kavoedovical. Yenmozet Amadonimedi with Salugushibel of the Sea City should a seal could sitakesh falshood. In Sitakesh Rabashon de Shun of Saesh Colonieshood and Haminal.

SPEAKER_03:Yeah Mojia has Bonyod Garoy mass have yed as n shon de Rukole Mantala Savoshu and Mafluk should him in modernity barre was it amadone poor has in Vurudesh. Yani Dar Oshube Pasasafavi Saltanati Shekhire. Shahi Farahman Delin, Shahi Faramand Hamunek, I get Kushitarin Zulmi Besh to Jame, Nikod bekodaz and Hamunchal Novid Shambufta. Yanit Baromegurage to Zeneshbegzare Marlon Molliotin or Ziotkonam, Shirgova Khoshm. Yani Advasia, be obadany keshwar. Farahmanis, namdunam, kosh solibiot faraman nis in lofti mohendi.

SPEAKER_03:And yeshomaderi Araman digere for the Yani Namoyan de Sia Sata Akhlovi in Oze Tamadonia. Yemma fumediarisha moderin saltana sultan movar di ruder inha, ken well sultan mahmoudhaz nazi, amalio tishurum sh. Keno ganohojino kudovan sult sultarein basam shiru dalo chem should. Asanzo lemamas. Muta in mashwia t siosidare in y nazariosimutemo yeziye. Inazare si yo satiha as halofati runia. Ba halofati nazare siosid dura yes. Khauda my muhtharifaz mova di bege made azarinu madan surat mandi kedan yuften saltanat hola yiposhwani yumasabinha, temisha khalife bardo, yomishima salan, uhundai shie ki durisa favimiran, montoshumas shosh sultan husendarin.

SPEAKER_03:Sho d'arabesha ismailinarudaran, montano sultana, uhalife osmani of sultane, yaninin ide sultanate, badaron koljo shumas saltanate rojari. Wa saltanata goj me shupad Mish Sultanate Mashute. Ede ypodishhahi kalanigan, chalami saltanata labiro menta jum. Shortin nasare shoshwe saltanate Urupam Nazi saltanatwude. Yen church with um CS Urupar Nigakoni, Hobbsburg or Babinit, Romanofaro Babinit, Borbon Horubinit, Ino Churchubishun to Idanik, Shabi Saltanate Shanty Nadarabita Madonna, in Ide Shansha, as Achl Achla in Sia Satish.

SPEAKER_03:Shina Mam to Urupa Mintur, Makya Vilya Maminusurat Bandicati. Jam Bandish Inke Ayama Oyandish Goyad Bukon, Mafekma Comalamovke, Modokele had Xarim Mardum Dar Siosat. Come alamboimok, as some be had in Korikat, but I didn't remember Iran Minunde. Shunbe masenke, echtela le Jot Mishode, Engadasy Mardum, Kole Mardum be Cosat Engadas R Sibos Bude, Ki Shu Mishode, Yenafaki Bobosh Postin Du Zemut Mishnah Sha. Yenafaki Bobosh Oshfazimyot Mishami Kabir, and others find Bebolohat, Harikat Mikadan, Mardum Odin Madame to CSA, Tau Hariduri Hogarami Dasibosum Mibini, Yanimuthasavorke, Mafuma Ashrofiatoguma Kelly Mo Felamboshani, Ashrofiatum of Taniba Shay Sisolari.

SPEAKER_03:Yani Hondanami Kabishuma, Hondon Aminu, Bob if you shouldn't have the way you should choose good, one she would. Yani uh you could have a sandraptic show yesterday with the tariff meadable. Parliamentese e your name shame. Bana should dig Lahazo to the Rashonam albatodim to Yahamo Tarifamouseremon. Montokom la hazat the Rashanbu. Show Masalan Muriki Benezomodassi Model Das Kari see your satawasatumavdum Negahumkonit, Mugun to call the Tarichum Daskarib Muafarbu.

SPEAKER_03:But shai Vapholo Yesh Mitterin Laye Bolorimade, Tori Furumiofta. Hyderish, Davomina Desh, Hook to Doran Mud and Davom Dash, and Taskari, Matu should major each barashabi should be dialogue, Karamatis major with Bos Tarif Sh. Caron is bagged in because I should have told you as she boss tariffish conum. Well zinc has uncharmed modern BMB Run Navad Betarsi. Raigiri Chub, Ana Ide Raigiri Allah Nabu de Raigiri, along Montana to Yron Shomten to inter as an internet.

SPEAKER_03:And yeah was used to shop from a refront dominant by Roshae. Modakali Mukaniba Rayamas, not the more fellow met for Migan bebin in in ki codia butcherity show yesterday, Namayandigi or the key bar map no chimotalay had a sharp and did it. Giving a solid bonya defels of C S yeah, Kenor Vatiko moderate modern jarvok medim fish valves migrim, yeva ye roch mid many paid on a mardon yemani paid them on a dog yar maniped them con a taf kikova. Shamvati Montesquieu in a tariff mukon yeju as an name.

SPEAKER_03:How many alumni been Natu Urupa should not should not Iran should have kickovontesquia some Mayuba de Basish Nashim Tafkikova modish in to Iran? Timu him Tari Nish Artish CSE Kodadnezami was C Bajodovasha. And the arbor you know the Artish nowadays. Sepasol or Trohni Sassa, Baza Vanishna Bude, and Dorush Sepaso Loricambug, Transhain, Bastard Mikham or Majambandiconam, or Alfinaikanam, be micmander maybe Mala to Notteva said him. Kulloon half is the hikimaderimobad between him Boschaniconimbed between Bayot Biri, Babekarbe Bandi, Bakulon Tajubiki Barrietamadon Doshana Badbetun Boschaniconim, Yovari conorabash moemashu, the corbe vary, Bab in Jesar Besazim, Ayandi Hodum or Paichodem.

SPEAKER_03:Vonggiriu Gartiver de Rib and Azarum and No Karomate and No Karamatya de Jomorte Toganiko Zashta. Zaifyarde, Jame. Porseshna Kerden as Maboniva Mafahimpay bekom Girisho de kibesurati shore see a city army. In mohemekas shore shore between Tajumekonim Tapilkon.

SPEAKER_00:Hopman San Shodokemo, Saritunabdaremo, uh Madinahoisho and Jomida know about some of the Besh Navida and Abi Nat Remember. Um Mehro U Kharadik Baudas on Natam would derive goof to go, but in to the cannon, and as I go come should not be all by Jackson Hard Shomazis, Damod is so back. See yourself as because I should have Oyande would hope that to sit down with Oyande also back.

SPEAKER_01:I shouldn't many and the Pajunisan Valley Man faking Koramke at Daran was a man Roshan shot kiman pardos carry off to Kishnaudan Barai Ozoikununi Iranchias. Oyande Kheli Sahte, Delilish Aminaske, Avonil Vemwal Lefova, and Osuri Bisor Kichidar Korasan. The Hamin delus Hipishidan Vaughan Koridu Shwary Veman asan Ziod Mutawa Gifmondani Iran Charionhoi Muchtelefu Marduminho dar in Basso Besalo Kishraf the Iran Nimidun. Although Pavenko, Doctor Farmudanman Arzaminaske, Mo de Imkoni Bozgeshun Podishoyo Salkanat Kuvolo, Albatium, Movarkon Basan, Motalifi don't go and Salchanati Chizi, Comelan, Judo has Podshoy Chisigas, Oyofarat, Movardio, Razolina Moyende Fekrias and Yomhajan is on multi, but de ho asarukitovu, ne viste dio, andarz no more in hockey, undarvo, bas Hamun Podishoy Ronito soon has.

SPEAKER_01:The Hammon Hambuju Doshi and Shomachar Hukumati Saljuamidi, Allo Ish has hard she has, Valley, Amalan, Hamun, Vijigiho Hajon is on Nutteramun, Vijigio Irani Romigay, but Sal Tulson Salju Doremige. Yani Juniskaltanato Madeun Podishoirafti. But on Lolojoy Best Dorivali Imkon Alam Podishohi Holice or Lich Bude Dariemotivachisho Vijigi Horror or Yatum Cardano in ho, that dunio jadit which would never. Anyone name it to name Alan Shomabik Ma Long Podishoi Darimke, Model Shabos, Model Kuroshi, Model Dor Yuchi.

SPEAKER_01:Winter one in Chenichizera, each booking the ham system as a man in Montafias, a chore cardam that dunya jedi do dunya immortalitam in Monten Nice. I got more valid than my list than my shrute in hochardim. Man Yaging Doramke Harkete John Dar Sedehe, Market Rubiji Loui, Valkuin Harket with the Lili, Bozigaron Mutad did, Avon Mel Mutad did, Masoil Mukhtalevki Shamin Basanov and Azar Hos. Hodder Away Resophimash and Yamkofta Shodam Bashima Chodam Jumuri Miko.

SPEAKER_01:Walku Bozan Braim Ardum Besari. Manfigumkuremke Darim Masir Jelogarim Yevve Falk Bokonim Yuk to Gubosusin Jariana Slip or Hamigi Bokonan by Yekosivishan. Taim Vazia Vujudore, Darwag Bozan de Aslimardum Iron Hassan. Tun Darsa Dargomi Vebel Thibi Bisarmi Baranva Benachij Nemi Tunanverasan. Manu Midwara San Givarhola Zing of Tuguha Augorhiho Mudoroho Bitowan Zutar Bayek Jambandi Bicteri Baro Iran the Iron Base.

SPEAKER_00:Gas valid Figmika Damke Banoi Boshadal Barry, Halfree, Baroe or Girisoni, goof the good caradah, not if I represent it. But between him had harmulin, away the Mukhol between Tamil King Bamso Badconin, and now yet Hammutikus, Associa Mardom, Raya Mardom, and Dod Gario choice a solar rik about all by at Haran Hol No command between the Harmazinova or Matrabish, the Avoikumutas, Benafi, Hami Masalas Valley, we got between the Jerasoyan de Stada and Murahami Poyo, Varapish Piddin behami Masolikomalon, Jam and Cadid, O to Ba Kiliamier, Omoramutun and Beyond, the Madram Jambi Boston Siva Tori, Higu Bistarkoniva, Rapeshbeddin Bekununva, Inke Chizi, Besalohe, Mardum, Bamardum, the Holoco de Samo, Salo Handulas, Madame Kill Midwaramardum, and Naoyato Roho and the Hopkant, Bazin Sakti or Bunkon.

SPEAKER_00:Besia Manam Hilimushakiranga Bakun Bomandi or Midwaran Kibetunam Besudita and Matum Boshamchata.

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    *آیا ما واقعاً صاحب تصمیمات خود هستیم یا همه‌چیز از پیش تعیین شده است؟* در این قسمت از پادکست هشیوار، میزبان «مهدی شفا» در یک گفتگوی عمیق با «بنیامین فراهانی»، به بررسی یکی از بنیادی‌ترین چالش‌های مشترک علم و فلسفه یعنی مسئله اراده آزاد می‌پردازد. این گفتگو تلاش می‌کند تا تلاقی مفاهیم بیولوژیک، عصب‌شناسی تکاملی و نتایج اخلاقی-اجتماعی آن را لایه لایه بازخوانی کند. در این بحث چالش‌برانگیز، رویکردهای فکری متفاوتی از جمله جبرگرایی سخت رابرت ساپولسکی در برابر سازگارگرایی و نگاه برساختیِ دنیل دنت...

  4. S3 · E116 · 16 Jul 2026 · 2 hr 12 min

    آیا حیات فرازمینی واقعیت دارد یا یک خرافه مدرن است؟ | فرهاد ارکانی

    در دومین بخش از گفتگوی جذاب با فرهاد ارکانی، به اعماق یکی از بزرگ‌ترین و تکان‌دهنده‌ترین پرسش‌های تاریخ بشر سفر می‌کنیم: *آیا ما در این کیهان تنها هستیم؟ * در این اپیزود از پادکست هشیوار به همراه فرهاد ارکانی به بررسی احتمال وجود #حیات_فرازمینی می‌پردازیم. با استفاده از #فرمول_دریک تمدن‌های هوشمند را محاسبه کرده و به این پرسش پاسخ می‌دهیم که چرا با وجود این احتمالات، کیهان در سکوت فرو رفته است؟ پدیده #پارادوکس_فرمی و فرضیه ترسناک #فیلتر_بزرگ را تحلیل می‌کنیم و از منظر دانش #اخترزیست‌شناسی به ...

  5. S3 · E115 · 13 Jul 2026 · 1 hr 30 min

    چرا نئاندرتال‌ها منقرض شدند؟ فرگشت و آمیزش انسان‌ تبارها | دکتر سامان حیدری، دکتر جواد حسین‌زاده

    در این قسمت از پادکست هشیوار، به میزبانی دکتر مهدی شفا، به یکی از بنیادی‌ترین و چالش‌برانگیزترین پرسش‌های تاریخ تکامل بشر می‌پردازیم: *آیا انسان خردمند (هومو ساپینس) واقعاً تنها گونه موفق انسانی بوده و تکامل ما یک درخت خطی و ساده است؟* با ورود فناوری‌های نوظهوری مانند ژنتیک باستانی، تحلیل دی‌ان‌ای باستانی، مطالعه پروتئین‌های کهن و هوش مصنوعی، تصویر ما از گذشته به کلی دگرگون شده است. در این گفتگوی عمیق، علمی و چندرشته‌ای، میزبان دو تن از برجسته‌ترین متخصصان ایرانی هستیم تا یافته‌های جدی...

  6. S3 · E113 · 7 Jul 2026 · 1 hr 36 min

    مغز ایدئولوژیک و تصلب شناختی؛ چرا برخی در برابرواقعیت مقاومت می‌کنند؟ با دکترسروش دباغ، وحیدهروآبادی

    یکی از مهم‌ترین پرسش‌های زندگی انسان این نیست که چه چیزی را باور داریم، بلکه این است که چرا آن را باور داریم؟ چرا برخی از افراد حاضر می‌شوند باورهای خود را زیر سؤال ببرند اما بعضی دیگر حتی در برابر واقعیت و شواهد متناقض هم مقاومت می‌کنند؟ در این قسمت از پادکست هشیوار، به میزبانی *دکتر مهدی شفا*، در یک گفتگوی عمیق و بین‌رشته‌ای به کالبدشکافی مفهوم *مغز_ایدئولوژیک* و ریشه‌های روانی و اجتماعی جزم‌گرایی می‌پردازیم. ما لایه‌های پنهانی را بررسی می‌کنیم که نشان می‌دهند چگونه *تصلب_شناختی* ذهن را در...

  7. S3 · E112 · 28 Jun 2026 · 1 hr 42 min

    آیا ما واقعیت را می‌بینیم یا مغز آن را می‌سازد؟ گفتگوبا دکترآرش افراز

    در این قسمت از پادکست، به اعماق تاریک و شگفت‌انگیز جمجمه سفر می‌کنیم؛ جایی که مغز ما بدون دسترسی مستقیم به نور، جهان بیرون را برای ما تصویر می‌کند. آیا آنچه می‌بینیم خودِ واقعیت است یا صرفاً یک بازسازی ذهنی، فرضی و تکاملی؟ مهمان این گفتگو، *دکتر آرش افراز* دانشمند و محقق ارشد سیستم‌های بینایی در موسسه ملی سلامت روان آمریکا (NIH) و پژوهشگر سابق دانشگاه MIT و هاروارد هستند. ایشان با سال‌ها تجربه فیلد در حوزه علوم اعصاب شناختی، ما را با زوایای پنهان ادراک و پردازش‌های بینایی آشنا می‌کنند....

  8. S3 · E111 · 18 Jun 2026 · 2 hr 3 min

    آیا ما فقط یک ماشین شیمیایی هستیم؟ مرزماده وحیات کجاست؟ با دکترعطا کالیراد، پوریا آزادی

    حیات از کجا آغاز می‌شود؟ آیا DNA صرفاً یک نقشه و برنامه کامپیوتری مکتوب است، یا سیستم‌های زنده چیزی فراتر از کدهای دیجیتال هستند؟ مرز واقعی میان یک سیستم شیمیایی پیچیده و یک موجود زنده کجاست؟ در این قسمت از پادکست هشیوار، من، مهدی شفا (دکترای زیست شناسی سلولی و مولکولی-ژنتیک) میزبان دکتر عطا کالیراد (متخصص زیست‌شناسی تکاملیو بوم شناسی از مؤسسه ماکس پلانک آلمان) و پوریا آزادی (پژوهشگر زیست‌شناسی سامانه‌ای و بیوانفورماتیک) هستم. در این گفتگوی عمیق و چندرشته‌ای و بین‌رشته‌ای، از نگاه سنتی و تقل...

  9. S3 · E110 · 12 Jun 2026 · 1 hr 44 min

    آیا دی ان ای واقعاً نقشهٔ حیات است؟ | گفتگو با دکتر عطا کالیراد

    آیا تصویر سنتی ما از DNA به عنوان یک «دستور پخت خطی» یا «بلوپرینت فیکس‌شده» از نظر علمی دقیق است؟ زیست‌شناسی مدرن چگونه از پارادایم ژن‌محوری (Gene-centrism) به سمت درک سیستم‌محور (Systems Biology) و کل‌نگر حرکت می‌کند؟ در این قسمت از پادکست هشیوار، میزبان دکتر عطا کالیراد، زیست‌شناس تکاملی و پژوهشگر مؤسسه ماکس پلانک آلمان هستیم. در این گفتگوی عمیق، لایه به لایه از تقلیل‌گرایی کلاسیک فراتر می‌رویم تا با رویکردی تحلیلی، تلاقی مفاهیم فیزیکی، شیمیایی و فلسفی را در تبیین تکامل و تکوین موجودات زنده...

  10. S3 · E109 · 30 May 2026 · 1 hr 45 min

    از مهبانگ تا امروز با فرهاد ارکانی - بخش اول

    در این اپیزود از پادکست هشیوار، با آقای فرهاد ارکانی، مترجم، پادکستر و مروج علم گفتگو کردم. بخش اول این گفت‌وگو پیش از جنگ اخیر ضبط شده است. در جلسه اول بیشتر درباره مسیر جهان از مهبانگ تا شکل‌گیری زمین صحبت کردیم؛ از تولد فضا، زمان و ماده تا شکل‌گیری اتم‌ها، ستارگان، کهکشان‌ها، عناصر سنگین و در نهایت پیدایش منظومه شمسی و سیاره زمین. همچنین درباره انواع ستارگان و سرنوشت آن‌ها، نقش انفجارهای ستاره‌ای در ساخت عناصر حیاتی، و جایگاه زمین در تاریخ عظیم کیهان گفتگو کردیم. در بخش دوم این گفت‌...

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